Why We Can't Invent a Perfect Engine: Crash Course Engineering #10

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  • We’ve introduced the 0th and 1st laws of thermodynamics, so now it’s time to move on to the second law and how we came to understand it. We’ll explain the differences between the first and second law, and we’ll talk about the Carnot cycle and why we can never design a perfectly efficient engine.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 368

  • @syedtamsilhussain
    @syedtamsilhussain 5 років тому +190

    I am a mechanical engineering graduate and this is the first time I understood Carnot cycle clearly

  • @waleedghayas9031
    @waleedghayas9031 6 років тому +86

    I love how you defined entropy as not simply randomness, but how energy ends up being converted to useless forms.

  • @cyrilyago8214
    @cyrilyago8214 4 роки тому +119

    Did they just portray nickleback as unusable form of energy 😂 at 2:10

  • @evanjones8049
    @evanjones8049 4 роки тому +76

    Crash Course is legitimately better than the thermodynamics course that I am taking at my university.

  • @SaeedAcronia
    @SaeedAcronia 4 роки тому +84

    I am an aerospace engineer and I have been mocked by these "physicists" for being an end-user of their theories and equations. Guess what?!
    Sadi Carnot, the father of Thermodynamics, was actually a mechanical engineer. On behalf of all mechanical and aerospace engineers in the world:
    IN YOUR FACE Sheldon Cooper!

  • @Lucky10279
    @Lucky10279 4 роки тому +39

    The way I see it, the 2nd law isn't _fundamentally_ about energy at all. Rather, it's all about probability. It's not that we _can't_ make a perfectly efficient engine, it's just the the probability of it happening is practically 0, but actually slightly higher. What's really going on is that entropy is a measure of the number of states a system can exist in. We talk about macrostates vs microstates. For example, if our system consists of a single vase, one potential macrostate would be "broken". A microstates is an exact configuration of particles. There are FAR, FAR more microstates that correspond to "broken vase" than "not broken vase", so a system consisting of a broken vase has higher entropy than one consistenting of a whole vase. This is where the misleading description of entropy as being a measure of "disorder" comes from. Most macrostates we'd consider disordered are higher entropy simple because there are more microstates that correspond to them. But this isn't what entropy is about. So what does this have to do with energy and efficiency? Well anytime we apply energy to a system to do work on it, we're changing the state of the system. Even if we intentionally apply the energy in a very specific manner, there are simply SO MANY ways for some of the energy to be wasted compared to the number of ways for it to all be used for useful work. There's nothing _stopping_ a 100% efficient heat engine from existing, per se, but the probability of it even a single perfectly efficient heat engine cycle to occur is such that we'd never expect it to happen in any way imaginable amount of time. _However,_ given infinite time, it's virtually _guarenteed_ to happen, not just once, but an infinite number of time. That's because _anything_ with a non-zero probability of occuring, no matter how tiny, will eventually occur given a sufficiently long period of time. However, the probability is such a thing is probably on par with the probability of all the particles in your body quantum tunneling at the exactly the same time in such a manner to teleport you someplace. It theoretically _could_ happen, but don't count on it. I think the amount time needed for it to have even a 50% chance of occuring is longer than the age of the universe, though I'm going on memory.

  • @RobertNeyrinck
    @RobertNeyrinck 4 роки тому +34

    Can we talk about how she said “unusable energy” and the graphic was a nickel back album

  • @skydivekrazy76
    @skydivekrazy76 6 років тому +97

    We should find Carnot's burial site...

  • @bidaubadeadieu
    @bidaubadeadieu 6 років тому +8

    I'm in my final year as a physics undergrad, but due to chance and schedule conflicts, I won't get to take Thermal Physics and thermodynamics until next spring, my very last semester. I'm really loving these episodes, they feel so fresh and exciting compared to the topics I'm more familiar with.

    • @apeman2035
      @apeman2035 6 років тому

      You need a good edjukayshun, yep!

  • @robertbilling6266
    @robertbilling6266 5 років тому +5

    Thanks for that, filled me with nostalgia for Dr Cohen's lectures in Cambridge 40 years ago.

  • @sylys
    @sylys 6 років тому +3

    Thanks, finally a clear exposé of what entropy is !

  • @madscientist8627
    @madscientist8627 6 років тому +2

    This is really cool! I always loved learning new things, thank you!

  • @lewisdavison2275
    @lewisdavison2275 4 роки тому +7

    thank you for putting it in such an easy to understand and clear video, very well-spoken. Scary how bad my thermodynamics teacher is.

  • @Pooskipie
    @Pooskipie 6 років тому +9

    Shes a great teacher Keep em coming
    Wonderful show guys love these videos

  • @raikiri6251
    @raikiri6251 5 років тому

    Happy to hear Your voice again Shini!
    It's been a while since I finished my 12th grade & stopped watching CrashCourse

  • @mukamuka0
    @mukamuka0 6 років тому +2

    Very informative and great animation. I'm impressed.

  • @tahoon2009
    @tahoon2009 5 років тому

    awesome, best explainatoin and visualisatoin for carnot found so far, best to the whole team :)

  • @andreadorado884
    @andreadorado884 4 роки тому +1

    I love your videos, they always help me to understand and solve my homework :D

  • @je-fq7ve
    @je-fq7ve Рік тому +1

    Thanks, in my home we always obey the the four laws of thermodynamics.

  • @mvmcali6900
    @mvmcali6900 Рік тому +2

    Entropy is such a cool concept....it took a genius to define it

  • @alexanderbilchuk8915
    @alexanderbilchuk8915 6 років тому

    Some Fullmetal Alcimist lessons done right here. Good job guys!

  • @TheMahmoudTalaat
    @TheMahmoudTalaat 5 років тому +1

    Thank you
    this video helped me a lot and explained things that i didn't understand before and i watched it more than once in different time to remember or understand things
    Thanks a lot

  • @ryanbegley7098
    @ryanbegley7098 4 роки тому

    Fantastic episode, thank you!

  • @Tsagan
    @Tsagan 6 років тому +10

    Dr Shini Samara is the best ! Loving the series thus far, continue the great work

  • @zhubajie6940
    @zhubajie6940 6 років тому

    So glad you are helping spreading the word on the issues that confront and limit the energy engineer to solve the problems that effect our world so much such as climate change and energy depletion. We're not magicians just artist using the pallete of engineering physics.

  • @chance_ooo5663
    @chance_ooo5663 6 років тому +145

    engine goes vroom vroom

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 6 років тому +4

      clever

    • @sp00machine
      @sp00machine 6 років тому +4

      haha yes

    • @lego007guym8
      @lego007guym8 6 років тому +4

      Beeb beeb

    • @91722854
      @91722854 6 років тому +1

      mindblown, I couldn't even come up with that vroom vroom, guess I need to quit being an engineering student

    • @chance_ooo5663
      @chance_ooo5663 6 років тому +2

      Justin Tesla Chan trust me, it took many years of hard, tedious research to come to this conclusion. continue with your studies brother!

  • @abdilkadermohammed4656
    @abdilkadermohammed4656 4 роки тому

    you made engineering so easy thank you espeacially thermodynamics

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams 5 років тому

    Good episode team CC Engineering.

  • @joserenato5882
    @joserenato5882 Рік тому

    Loved it. Thank you very much.

  • @giantred
    @giantred 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for teaching me stuff :)

  • @KhalidHamad-su8zz
    @KhalidHamad-su8zz 6 років тому

    Great work

  • @ipv2000
    @ipv2000 5 років тому

    thank you very much for this video :)

  • @Vikingheland
    @Vikingheland 5 років тому

    goddamn entropy with your cut of the energy. I bet you're saving it for a big bang

  • @Marylandbrony
    @Marylandbrony 6 років тому +336

    The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is that you don't talk about Thermodynamics.

    • @PatrickAllenNL
      @PatrickAllenNL 6 років тому +4

      Marylandbrony I laugh

    • @minimanofiron2501
      @minimanofiron2501 6 років тому +6

      +Marylandbrony
      mate... thats actually the 42nd law of thermodynamics, thank you very much.

    • @OgWoot
      @OgWoot 6 років тому +1

      MINIMAN of iron 42

    • @ayushwithasingle_a
      @ayushwithasingle_a 5 років тому +1

      what is the reference?

    • @ClaraWang32356
      @ClaraWang32356 5 років тому

      @Sal Vastola It comes from The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.... (the number 42)

  • @chickenturtle5026
    @chickenturtle5026 6 років тому +27

    Have you ever tried mixing seltzer water with juice? It's surprisingly good.

    • @juliansolomone7442
      @juliansolomone7442 6 років тому +5

      @mwalsher Thanks! I've been trying to get my treadmill-powered engine charged for days without luck. I've tried this. It works!

  • @vaibhavsingh6760
    @vaibhavsingh6760 5 років тому

    This is the best series by the way than G0T as well

  • @ceasetheday87
    @ceasetheday87 6 років тому +1

    finally, a definition of entropy that is useful. simply saying “disorder” or “randomness” gives no insight into why entropy would matter.

  • @jewelhosiery5664
    @jewelhosiery5664 4 роки тому

    Nice explanation 😊👌👍😘

  • @MrJkaos96
    @MrJkaos96 6 років тому

    I really understud what the second law of thermodynamics means, Thanks!

    • @apeman2035
      @apeman2035 6 років тому

      You're welcome, Peaches !

  • @selahattinkaracay9951
    @selahattinkaracay9951 6 місяців тому

    Perfect explanation. Carnot is a real genius.

  • @MrJuuustin28532
    @MrJuuustin28532 6 років тому

    I think your videos are great. The fact that only 10% of veiwers at this moment give it a thumbs up says people and subscribers need to wake up. Thanks for the wake up call even if we the viewers only give it a like in one out of ten views. Personally I plan to rewatch them and share them with my children. Awesome! thankyou!

  • @PoorManMods
    @PoorManMods 6 років тому

    The nickel back album was hilarious haha

  • @TalentedOnion
    @TalentedOnion 6 років тому +2

    Mr. nobody was a great movie. Underrated.

  • @noahmillican1394
    @noahmillican1394 6 років тому +1

    Could you do one on fuel cell engines and how we might be able to convert the hydrogen more efficiently for a full working type

  • @kieranmales5889
    @kieranmales5889 4 роки тому

    Thanks you too much your such a great teacher and your voice is very easy to listen too! Way better then Khan academy lol

  • @macbuff81
    @macbuff81 6 років тому

    entropy. Brian Cox has some very good segments about it too

  • @Dayglodaydreams
    @Dayglodaydreams 5 років тому +2

    There should be another rectangle at the end of the episode that says "Want to know what an Existential Crisis is click here" and the CC Philosophy episode is hyperlinked.

  • @dan1204hc
    @dan1204hc 5 років тому

    You can work and research Thermodynamics following the career of Chemical or Mechanical Engineering. This is an extremely broad field that governs the laws of nature. Therefore the approaches can be extremely different. In CE, it is much more focused on Equilibrium of solutions/mixtures of solids, liquids and gases and different chemicals (which is hardly seen by MEs). In ME it is much more on Heat Cycles.

  • @hampsterdanny
    @hampsterdanny 6 років тому

    I keep thinking about Muse's Isolated System whenever she says entropy

  • @Hypatia4242
    @Hypatia4242 6 років тому +20

    I like this show, but that shelf is messing with my OCD.

    • @Kaiju3301
      @Kaiju3301 4 роки тому

      Hypatia4242 ikea strikes again

  • @NoahNobody
    @NoahNobody 6 років тому

    Dig up his note books!

  • @nicolas.leger3
    @nicolas.leger3 5 років тому

    Thanks 🙏

  • @mkb6418
    @mkb6418 6 років тому +1

    You should saw a P-V diagram. It would really explain why and how Carnot desinged his engine. Now it's just like "it's this trust me"

  • @suriyajabeen7744
    @suriyajabeen7744 6 років тому +1

    Video not uploaded on this thursday. I'm missing it

  • @thatRyzzle
    @thatRyzzle 5 років тому +32

    Crash Course doesn't like Nickelback, therefore I like Crash Course. It's simple, really.

  • @dhanapal.sdhanapal.s5657
    @dhanapal.sdhanapal.s5657 4 роки тому +2

    Physics is my favorite subject

  • @subhasarkar7465
    @subhasarkar7465 6 років тому

    Thank you ...

  • @jacker372
    @jacker372 6 років тому +1

    Two dissimilar metal wires twisted togeather into a thermocouple can produce useable power from heat.

  • @yolo3004
    @yolo3004 6 місяців тому

    5:48 why does it feels like im watching a movie? also i had to watch it 5 million times to understand it.

  • @hafshahalim5747
    @hafshahalim5747 Рік тому

    Couldn’t see anyone talking about how amazing her background shelf

  • @Aramis419
    @Aramis419 6 років тому +39

    Nickleback XD!!

    • @jbrone21
      @jbrone21 6 років тому +7

      subtle, yet beautifully done .

    • @UteChewb
      @UteChewb 6 років тому +9

      "less useful or unusable", pic of Nickelback comes up. Harsh but fair. :D

    • @Hypatia4242
      @Hypatia4242 6 років тому +2

      Scrolled through the comments just to see if anyone else had noticed. Love this channel.

  • @matthewfredrickmfkrz1934
    @matthewfredrickmfkrz1934 6 років тому

    While thermal efficiency is only 25% from the 4 stroke action modern engines are volumetrically 95% or better with forced induction...
    cooling with the fuel is used in jet turbine engines to also prep the fuel for combustion... Smokey yunick made a "hot air engine" and got 500 HP out of a 2.5l modified ironduke fiero based on experience of an engine running amazing just before blowing up and hydrogen Reformation

  • @AvenEngineer
    @AvenEngineer 6 років тому +1

    We already have, they're called electric motors. 95+% efficient is pretty good. Maybe CrashCourse could do a video on the VW I.D. R.

    • @rafetizer
      @rafetizer 6 років тому +2

      So if we made one that was 100% efficient it wouldn't be MORE perfect? The point here was based on 100% thermal efficiency, even if the title doesn't exactly specify.

  • @dirtymikentheboys5817
    @dirtymikentheboys5817 6 років тому +1

    Dr. Shini Somara Or Crash Course, can you do one about how the Arc Reactor (Tony Stark) achieves over 110% efficient and how it COULD be possible, Like for a Halloween special? Thanks even if you don't and I like history and engineering videos.

  • @TheAzachiel
    @TheAzachiel 6 років тому

    And what about all those patents for permanent magnet motors or SERL effect generator?

  • @IzmirAbreu
    @IzmirAbreu 6 років тому +1

    I really love your face's expressions! hahah

  • @yuven437
    @yuven437 6 років тому

    How does the conservation of energy work with red-shifting photons?

  • @shenanigansonyoutube2901
    @shenanigansonyoutube2901 4 роки тому

    0:27 Yeah you can, its called a VQ35DE, or a 13B-REW

  • @AyanAli-eq4lo
    @AyanAli-eq4lo 6 років тому +3

    Mercedes petronas’s 4 cylinder turbo charged engine is close to 60% thermal efficiency

  • @SirDamned
    @SirDamned 6 років тому

    I understood all of that

  • @angelojustinezaraspe9214
    @angelojustinezaraspe9214 4 роки тому

    Does the thibgs on the shelf are glued?

  • @andrewkelley7062
    @andrewkelley7062 6 років тому +1

    You have to use state changes in exotic circumstances.
    There are two ways either create a harmonic vortaic system that uses outside thermal noise to power the system or create a system that throws itself into a constant state of unbalance by it operation to the point where you get a separation of thermal states then pull the work off the collapseing phase change which can be introduced to the system.

  • @coby_e
    @coby_e 6 років тому

    they got a baddy doing these now im boutta be hella smart

  • @mvmcali6900
    @mvmcali6900 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @oldcowbb
    @oldcowbb 5 років тому

    i hate calling entropy disorder, it's very Bayesian. Also, saying that the entropy of the universe always increase is assuming the universe is a isolated system, which we don't really know.

  • @stevieinselby
    @stevieinselby 6 років тому +1

    The world would be a better place if entropy was measured in degrees Clausius

  • @abdelrahman4436
    @abdelrahman4436 Рік тому

    does the second law of thermodynamics actually restrict the inter-conversion between heat and work or does it restrict the efficiency of the inter-conversion between heat and work

  • @gray1530
    @gray1530 6 років тому

    I put this on at night to help me fall asleep

  • @VarretInxve
    @VarretInxve 6 років тому +2

    I don’t understand why we need 4 parts of the Carnot cycle. If we were just doing isobaric heating and cooling(changing temperature while keeping pressure constant), we’d get the piston to move because of changing volume. And if we assume no heat being lost to the environment(like perfect reservoirs in Carnot cycle), we’d get 100% efficiency.

    • @VarretInxve
      @VarretInxve 6 років тому +2

      Okay, I think I got it. Those isobaric processes would be 100% reversible if we assume that no energy is lost, but actually no energy is transferred to the environment either. If we had a vertical piston working as an elevator, and we heated up the gas inside the cylinder, the piston would go up, but the moment you remove mass from the top of it, pressure in the cylinder would go down, so the piston would go up and if you wanted to bring it down to the initial pressure and level, you would have to put some mass on top of it, but since that mass would go down with the piston, its potential energy would decrease, so no work is being done.

    • @danconrad920
      @danconrad920 6 років тому

      Varret, I think your talking about a sterling engine.

    • @harveyspecter3361
      @harveyspecter3361 6 років тому +1

      You need a doner kebab broodje!

  • @MGJ182
    @MGJ182 6 років тому +2

    Kyubey pls.

  • @lotuskamal459
    @lotuskamal459 4 роки тому

    I would like to play this vedio at 0.5x playback speed......
    now it's perfect......🙂🙂

  • @dnimlarebil
    @dnimlarebil 5 років тому

    2:17 sideburn Nickelback!

  • @chrisjamel8461
    @chrisjamel8461 6 років тому +1

    To decrease entropy is to travel back in time

  • @agapiosagapiou
    @agapiosagapiou 6 років тому

    Crude topic! Is inposible to cover it in 13min.

  • @magottyk
    @magottyk 6 років тому

    I hope you got permission for the Jetsons animation.

  • @AdamCHowell
    @AdamCHowell 6 років тому

    Looks like a lot of entropy was gained putting up those shelves.

  • @proknight6647
    @proknight6647 5 років тому

    Can anyone please tell me why we cannot create an exact recreation of the Carnos Cycle? CC Team pls?

  • @sebastjansslavitis3898
    @sebastjansslavitis3898 6 років тому +1

    in russia incandescent light bulbs have 100% efficiency

  • @damiensadventure
    @damiensadventure 6 років тому

    Who is this lady? She is awesome and knows her stuff.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 6 років тому +1

      Dr. Shini Somara. Physicist and engineer. Her specialty is afaik fluid dynamics.
      She's ben doing this kind of outreach work for some time now.

  • @SiraSam
    @SiraSam 6 років тому +3

    I have no friend in Engineering college T T feels so bad man.

    • @oldcowbb
      @oldcowbb 5 років тому +1

      you don't need

  • @sweetgoldilocs2
    @sweetgoldilocs2 6 років тому +1

    I'm too dumb for this. I do however give myself credit for making it half way through.

    • @apeman2035
      @apeman2035 6 років тому +2

      Try again
      I believe in you

  • @GarretSlender
    @GarretSlender 6 років тому

    My rotary goes BRAP BRAP BRAP

  • @ArchesBro
    @ArchesBro 6 років тому +1

    Rankine cycle is the next video I guess

  • @gregorypapas9354
    @gregorypapas9354 5 років тому

    2:17 LOL

  • @theoneilovemost
    @theoneilovemost 4 роки тому

    What if we figured out how to harness entropy itself as a power source?

  • @bomguy999999
    @bomguy999999 6 років тому +4

    We did invent the perfect engine. The 427 was about as good as it gets.

    • @devilsoffspring5519
      @devilsoffspring5519 4 роки тому

      Depends on what you mean by perfect...
      427 V8? Excessively big & heavy, low power output per cubic inch when emissions-legal, very poor fuel economy in normal everyday use. Hardly "perfect".

  • @titankorellc2937
    @titankorellc2937 6 років тому +1

    I'm designing a new kind of stirling engine that can use solar heat and theoretically has 45-55% heat efficiency and can be 90% 3D printed.

    • @apeman2035
      @apeman2035 6 років тому

      Theoritically, huh ?

  • @SatanisSanta
    @SatanisSanta 6 років тому

    great nickelback reference

  • @samyaksheersh712
    @samyaksheersh712 6 років тому +1

    PLEASE UPLOAD A NEW VIDEO. WHY ISN'T IT BEING UPLOADED?

  • @humblesoldier5474
    @humblesoldier5474 6 років тому +1

    Isn't a Hurricane an irl perfect engine. I know it is to big to use right now, but the universe does allow for perfect engines that violate no laws with the right scale and material. For human scale finding a way to stabilize liquid He, and other meta materials might get us the closest we can get at human scales.