He's actually my great great grandfather he died in 2014 I met him once in a store he's not African American he's Panamanian and came to New York when he was younger and his son was one of the men that built the Panama canal and they called his son tattoo
And his granddaughter is my grandma and she is still alive and is able to walk and quit her job 6 years ago about to be 7 years ago as of 2021 and I see her sometimes and the family is still running and alive with new generations to come oh and he was a junior
I had the privilege of meeting a Tuskegee airmen many year's ago. I don't remember his name but it was an honor to shake his hand and say thank you for your courage your sacrifice and your great service for freedom and then I did the military salute as vest I could to try and let him know that he and his fellow world war 2 brothers will never be forgotten. He said thanks young man. I said sir you don't need to say thank you everyone should be thanking you and your fellow brothers in arms for your service. Though it was in a walmart parking lot for only a few minutes I'll never forget it or the great man who's hand I got the honor to shake and say thanks
met mr archer at a air show in st.paul,mn many years ago,took photos,got him to autograhpe red tails,black wings book with a fountan pen,h e got a kick that anyone knew what that was.a very kind person
Great men, fought for a country that disrespected them. Some of them came back to the south, still in the military, after fighting in Europe and were not allowed in theatres, restaurants and other places, while nazi pow s who were there , were allowed in. I met and took a photo with a couple of the Tuskegee Airmen at the Martin Luther King Parade in Los Angeles, one of the thrills of my life. Too bad no more of them are left. My father was a German immigrant to the US, He served 5 years in the US army during WWII . He strongly disliked the British for how they treated people in their 'colonies'. He told me he saw a British officer whipping a slave in New Guinea . He said " I wanted to shoot that SOB, but they would have hung me".
I loved and watched Disney Red Tails movie several times. My Dad flew Thunderbolt fighter in WWII in Europe until Victory! He said Nazi jets and was happy Germans ran out of jet fuel! Red Tails definitely saved and protected bombers!!
General Jimmy Doolittle who was commander of both the 8th. & 15th. Army Air Force changed the orders of staying with the bombers and changed them by ordering fighters to no longer stay with the bombers but to leave bomber formation and to seek out and destroy the German Air Force. You could not destroy the German Air Force by staying with the bombers Gen Doolittle surmised. And this tactic helped destroy the German Air Force and come D-Day the sky's over Europe were owned by the allies. Staying with the bombers was proven to be the wrong tactic. Escort fighter tactics Doolittle's major influence on the European air war occurred late in 1943 when he changed the policy requiring escorting fighters to remain with their bombers at all times, allowing fighter escorts to fly far ahead of the bombers' combat box formations in air supremacy mode. Throughout most of 1944, this tactic negated the effectiveness of the twin-engined Zerstörergeschwader heavy fighter wings and single-engined Sturmgruppen of heavily armed Fw 190As by clearing the Luftwaffe's bomber destroyers from ahead of the bomber formations. After the bombers had hit their targets, the American fighters were free to strafe German airfields and transportation on their return to base. These tasks were initially performed with Lockheed P-38 Lightnings and Republic P-47 Thunderbolts through the end of 1943. They were progressively replaced with the long-ranged North American P-51 Mustangs as the spring of 1944 wore on. CONCLUSION...STAYING WITH THE BOMBERS WAS THE WRONG TACTIC AND COULD NOT DESTROY THE GERMAN AIR FORCE. SO THOUGHT AND WAS PROVEN BY GEN JIMMY DOOLITTLE
Doolittle's major influence on the European air war occurred late in 1943 when he changed the policy requiring escorting fighters to remain with their bombers at all times, allowing fighter escorts to fly far ahead of the bombers' combat box formations in air supremacy
@@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w If you disagree you should back up your statements. That is how people changes minds and educate. I can say the sky is pink and you show me a picture of it being blue. Then I can't argue that fact.
youtube:Lee Archer: Ace Pilot Record Here Lee Archer admits he does not have 5 kills. Frank Olynyk, a historian for the American Fighter Aces Association, confirmed that the association never recognized Lee Archer as having shot down five enemy aircraft, and the Olynyk’s record agrees with that the Air Force Historical Research Agency: Lee Archer earned a total of four aerial victory credits. GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN THE MISCONCEPTION OF THE DEPRIVED ACE Roscoe brown talks about being the first to shoot down a German jet GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
That was another popular claim which has proven to be false. Lee Archer, one of the most famous Tuskegee Airmen, repeated the claim in a 2001 interview. He claimed that “guys like Roscoe Brown and three other people shot down the first jets in our history, in combat.”19 Three Tuskegee Airmen, 1st Lt. Roscoe Brown, 1st Lt. Earl R. Lane, and 2nd Lt. Charles V. Brantley, each shot down a German Me-262 jet on March 24, 1945, during the longest Fifteenth Air Force mission, which went all the way to Berlin.20 However, American pilots shot down no less than sixty Me262 aircraft before 24 March 1945. Most of these American pilots served in the Eighth The Tuskegee Airmen were also not the first Fifteenth Air Force pilots to shoot down German jets, as is sometimes alleged. Two such pilots, 1st Lt. Eugene P. McGlauflin and 2d Lt. Roy L. Scales, both of the Fifteenth Air Force’s 31st Fighter Group and 308th Fighter Squadron, shared a victory over an Me-262 German jet on 22 December 1944, and Capt. William J. Dillard, also of the Fifteenth Air Force’s 31st Fighter Group and 308th Fighter Squadron, shot down an Me-262 German jet on 22 March 1945. Moreover, on the day three Tuskegee Airmen shot down three German jets over Berlin on March 24, 1945, five other American pilots of the Fifteenth Air Force, on the same mission, with the 31st Fighter Group, also shot down German Me-262 jets. They included Colonel William A. Daniel, 1st Lt. Forrest M. Keene, 1st Lt Raymond D. Leonard, Capt. Kenneth T. Smith, and 2nd Lt. William M. Wilder.23 THE MISCONCEPTION OF “NEVER LOST A BOMBER” GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN misconceptions can be found on THE TUSKEGEE AIRMAN INC web page. the main chapter of the tuskegee airmen. It can be found on their web page just google: TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC on at least seven days, bombers under the escort of the Tuskegee Airmen’s 332d Fighter Group were shot down by enemy aircraft. Those days include June 9, 1944; June 13, 1944; July 12, 1944; July 18, 1944; July 20, 1944; August 24, 1944; and March 24, 1945
@@virtualsam I can see the truth seems not to be your concern. Every thing posted can be found on(GOOGLE) Tuskegee Airmen Inc...The national chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen. or GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN for the real facts.
Since these things are historically self-reported, I'll go with Lee Archers reports. If people can believe Erich Hartmann shot down 360 planes, it's not crazy to believe Lee Archer got 5. Sit down and have a beer dude. Chill out.
yuo and your airmen saved ,y dads life and, i am, so very grateful to you all
Lt.Col Archer, thank you for your service Sir.🫡
A truly greatly courageous hero! Abbah(God) bless him & his family.
Despite the enormous challenges of his time , a great achievement, a great man and a great life
National treasures !!
Love this guy. Wish I could learn more about his life, before, after the war. Thank you man.
I could tell you a few things about him
@@CryofreezeAndCrystallizeWoah OK speak up. Love to hear it.
He's actually my great great grandfather he died in 2014 I met him once in a store he's not African American he's Panamanian and came to New York when he was younger and his son was one of the men that built the Panama canal and they called his son tattoo
And his granddaughter is my grandma and she is still alive and is able to walk and quit her job 6 years ago about to be 7 years ago as of 2021 and I see her sometimes and the family is still running and alive with new generations to come oh and he was a junior
@@CryofreezeAndCrystallizeWoah I am glad that the lines runs on!
I wish I could have met you, sir. You and the other members of the Tuskegee Airmen are my heroes.
Warriors... and Gentlemen - who’s achievements provides broad shoulders for many others to gaze upon and pursue their own futures from.
The real Hero.
I had the privilege of meeting a Tuskegee airmen many year's ago. I don't remember his name but it was an honor to shake his hand and say thank you for your courage your sacrifice and your great service for freedom and then I did the military salute as vest I could to try and let him know that he and his fellow world war 2 brothers will never be forgotten. He said thanks young man. I said sir you don't need to say thank you everyone should be thanking you and your fellow brothers in arms for your service. Though it was in a walmart parking lot for only a few minutes I'll never forget it or the great man who's hand I got the honor to shake and say thanks
LEE ARCHER WAS NOT AN ACE.
met mr archer at a air show in st.paul,mn many years ago,took photos,got him to autograhpe red tails,black wings book with a fountan pen,h e got a kick that anyone knew what that was.a very kind person
God Bless you!!!❤
Had the pleasure of meeting and conversing with retired Lt. Col and ACE pilot Lee Archer at a mutual friends house.
He was not an Ace WW2. Had 4 not 5 and later awarded honorary status only. There wer NO aces in the Tuskegee pilots
Not taking away his contribution as a fighter pilot of course. Official records do not list him anywhere. Myth
Who is the Idiot that gave this man's story a thumbs down?!?!
Great men, fought for a country that disrespected them. Some of them came back to the south, still in the military, after fighting in Europe and were not allowed in theatres, restaurants and other places, while nazi pow s who were there , were allowed in. I met and took a photo with a couple of the Tuskegee Airmen at the Martin Luther King Parade in Los Angeles, one of the thrills of my life. Too bad no more of them are left. My father was a German immigrant to the US, He served 5 years in the US army during WWII . He strongly disliked the British for how they treated people in their 'colonies'. He told me he saw a British officer whipping a slave in New Guinea . He said " I wanted to shoot that SOB, but they would have hung me".
He was part of a two man team called the gruesome twosome I forgot the other gentlemen's name
The other officers name was Wendell Pruitt.
I loved and watched Disney Red Tails movie several times. My Dad flew Thunderbolt fighter in WWII in Europe until Victory! He said Nazi jets and was happy Germans ran out of jet fuel! Red Tails definitely saved and protected bombers!!
General Jimmy Doolittle who was commander of both the 8th. & 15th. Army Air Force changed the orders of staying with the bombers and changed them by ordering fighters to no longer stay with the bombers but to leave bomber formation and to seek out and destroy the German Air Force. You could not destroy the German Air Force by staying with the bombers Gen Doolittle surmised. And this tactic helped destroy the German Air Force and come D-Day the sky's over Europe were owned by the allies. Staying with the bombers was proven to be the wrong tactic.
Escort fighter tactics
Doolittle's major influence on the European air war occurred late in 1943 when he changed the policy requiring escorting fighters to remain with their bombers at all times, allowing fighter escorts to fly far ahead of the bombers' combat box formations in air supremacy mode. Throughout most of 1944, this tactic negated the effectiveness of the twin-engined Zerstörergeschwader heavy fighter wings and single-engined Sturmgruppen of heavily armed Fw 190As by clearing the Luftwaffe's bomber destroyers from ahead of the bomber formations. After the bombers had hit their targets, the American fighters were free to strafe German airfields and transportation on their return to base. These tasks were initially performed with Lockheed P-38 Lightnings and Republic P-47 Thunderbolts through the end of 1943. They were progressively replaced with the long-ranged North American P-51 Mustangs as the spring of 1944 wore on.
CONCLUSION...STAYING WITH THE BOMBERS WAS THE WRONG TACTIC AND COULD NOT DESTROY THE GERMAN AIR FORCE. SO THOUGHT AND WAS PROVEN BY GEN JIMMY DOOLITTLE
Doolittle's major influence on the European air war occurred late in 1943 when he changed the policy requiring escorting fighters to remain with their bombers at all times, allowing fighter escorts to fly far ahead of the bombers' combat box formations in air supremacy
The North won the War, the South won the narrative.
@@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w How so?
@@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w If you disagree you should back up your statements. That is how people changes minds and educate. I can say the sky is pink and you show me a picture of it being blue. Then I can't argue that fact.
E. Bullard: well he ain't the first black fighter ace though
He never was a fighter ace as a fighter ace has to have 5 air to air kills to become an ace.
youtube:Lee Archer: Ace Pilot Record
Here Lee Archer admits he does not have 5 kills.
Frank Olynyk, a historian for the American Fighter
Aces Association, confirmed that the association never recognized Lee Archer as having
shot down five enemy aircraft, and the Olynyk’s record agrees with that the Air Force
Historical Research Agency: Lee Archer earned a total of four aerial victory credits.
GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
THE MISCONCEPTION OF THE DEPRIVED ACE
Roscoe brown talks about being the first to shoot down a German jet
GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
That was another popular claim which has proven to be
false. Lee Archer, one of the most famous Tuskegee Airmen, repeated the claim in a
2001 interview. He claimed that “guys like Roscoe Brown and three other people shot
down the first jets in our history, in combat.”19
Three Tuskegee Airmen, 1st Lt. Roscoe
Brown, 1st Lt. Earl R. Lane, and 2nd Lt. Charles V. Brantley, each shot down a German
Me-262 jet on March 24, 1945, during the longest Fifteenth Air Force mission, which
went all the way to Berlin.20
However, American pilots shot down no less than sixty Me262 aircraft before 24 March 1945. Most of these American pilots served in the Eighth The Tuskegee Airmen were also not the first Fifteenth Air Force pilots to shoot
down German jets, as is sometimes alleged.
Two such pilots, 1st Lt. Eugene P.
McGlauflin and 2d Lt. Roy L. Scales, both of the Fifteenth Air Force’s 31st Fighter Group
and 308th Fighter Squadron, shared a victory over an Me-262 German jet on 22
December 1944, and Capt. William J. Dillard, also of the Fifteenth Air Force’s 31st
Fighter Group and 308th Fighter Squadron, shot down an Me-262 German jet on 22 March 1945. Moreover, on the day three Tuskegee Airmen shot down three German jets
over Berlin on March 24, 1945, five other American pilots of the Fifteenth Air Force, on
the same mission, with the 31st Fighter Group, also shot down German Me-262 jets.
They included Colonel William A. Daniel, 1st Lt. Forrest M. Keene, 1st Lt Raymond D.
Leonard, Capt. Kenneth T. Smith, and 2nd Lt. William M. Wilder.23
THE MISCONCEPTION OF “NEVER LOST A BOMBER”
GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN
misconceptions can be found on THE TUSKEGEE AIRMAN INC web page. the main chapter of the tuskegee airmen. It can be found on their web page just google: TUSKEGEE AIRMEN INC on at least seven days,
bombers under the escort of the Tuskegee Airmen’s 332d Fighter Group were shot down
by enemy aircraft. Those days include June 9, 1944; June 13, 1944; July 12, 1944; July
18, 1944; July 20, 1944; August 24, 1944; and March 24, 1945
Dam someone shit in your cereal buddy
STFU asshole are you a pilot
STFU bud.
@@virtualsam I can see the truth seems not to be your concern. Every thing posted can be found on(GOOGLE) Tuskegee Airmen Inc...The national chapter of the Tuskegee Airmen.
or GOOGLE: MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN for the real facts.
Since these things are historically self-reported, I'll go with Lee Archers reports. If people can believe Erich Hartmann shot down 360 planes, it's not crazy to believe Lee Archer got 5. Sit down and have a beer dude. Chill out.
DIGNITY ALWAYS PREVAILS.