Guys the lack of runtime isn't the writers choice...The writer for eps 4 and 5 talked about runtime limits. MOST of the Disney plus shows have these pacing issues Marvel and Star Wars.... IMO what was there wasn't bad...the real issue is this felt like one half of a full episode. Would've been natural for the next scene to start the flashback. They should've gone with a six episode season with a few of the episodes being longer. These short limited series would benefit from binge or if they were to release key episodes together the way Bad Batch was doing.
“The Stanger”/Qirmir and master Sol are carrying this hard. I like how he’s trying a different approach with Osha than what he did with Mae and he’s opening up little by little but isn’t coming off as a good guy by it. He definitely was her padawan and his back scar looks like a whip scar to me. It makes sense and he admitted he was a padawan a long time ago and she’s known to be older
Great episode! I truly enjoyed listening to your conversation about this past episode! Lots of great insight and I’m excited to see how they are going to wrap this season up with just two episodes left
1:27:26 - 1:28:02 😊 I love you guys gassing yourselves up! That’s the type of stuff I like to see! You boys are really great in these videos, I’m glad you both can see that, people can often get in their own heads too much and get blinded by what exactly they have to offer. Keep it up guys! 👍
Such a great episode lads, you had so many insightful points and really dove deep into the lore and even the filmmaking process. I enjoyed your episode on episode 5 WAY more than I enjoyed Acolyte Episode 5
As you guys have pointed out. These so called Disney "TV shows" are trying so hard to emulate as these separate films rather than actually treating the TV show format as episodes. When TV shows aren't films. Not only for this how, but how many of Disney's other shows (the shows that Disney are actually part of and have their hands on it rather than just providing the financial means and marketing) are also taking this whole approach of "we want to be films". No wonder that so many networks, not just Disney shows, are taking their sweet time (feels like it) is because how these showrunners and writers are operating and treating shows differently. There is a reason why shows back about 10 years ago or so where the wait for shows were only about 1 year apart. My problem with this kind of approach though is...i forget they're even on. Another problem with Disney is the whole "8-10 hours, they're films" thing is nothing but a load of marketing bullshit. When actually, most if all of their shows are roughly 3 hours to 40 minutes in total, with some yes being slightly over 4 hours. Which is why the budgeting for this show and their other expensive shows, baffles me. I feel like most of SW shows could have easily been just anthology films. I think that was Disney's original intent to have these SW shows be films. But ever since the Mando S1 show became a surprise hit to them, all of a sudden the scrapped films are turning into shows. That's the only explanation to the weird structure these shows are doing, and maybe poorly done.
Regarding TLJ, it makes me so happy to know you all feel the same way: 1/3 was great, 2/3 not. When I liked it, I loved it… when I didn’t like it, I hated it.
This show feels like its only just started. And yet we still be drip fed Sith lore. I could say plenty of negative things about this episode but I did enjoy that Qimir figured her out straight away and applied a completely different tact to what he used with Mae, where before he was this masked faceless authority figure giving Mae orders, with Osha he's laying himself bare and appearing vulnerable to abuse her curiosity and lust - Great discussion as always fellas
What you said at the beginning is exactly how I feel. Dragging their feet for so long and now that it feels like it’s getting good, the shows only just started
What you guys are forgetting is that the ACOLYTE has had LOTS of fighting vs Ashoka already. Good fight scenes as well. So at least there's that. I happen to really dig the show. We've Also seen ALOT of displays of power as well. ❤
My biggest problem is what every Disney Plus series have as a problem. Too much of a rushed ending episodes/too few episodes. There’s 2 episodes left to conclude all this and it doesn’t feel like enough. A lot has to happen and it’s not enough time.
Im not sure if guys heard this or not but Abeloth is rumored to be in season 2 of Ahsoka and people want Either Liev Schreiber or Gerad Butler as Baylan Skoll
Agreed, I enjoy the quiet moments in star wars, but this episode was awkward. Little story related answers, a bunch of small lore tidbits. But then again, nothing new really. A little character development, but minimal. I thought we were gonna get some more backstory to expand on episode 3. But I'm optimistic. 4.7/10 episode.
Too often the show just feels like fan fiction. Some fan fiction had the soul of the writer put in it, but you can tell that it was a fan that did it. It’s had its moments lately, but too much is being played up.
Imagine me watching these video of yours and like listening to all this just cause of Manny Jacinto' role. He really is a great actor and he had that kind of presence on him in this show that draws you into him. I'll be honest, The stranger is the most interesting character in the show. I hope they don't fuck him up and threw in bad writing.
Basil isn’t really helping the pacing issue I thought he would be key to learning that Mae switched places with Osha but… nothing so what was the point of having him there. Loved the Osha/The Strangers dynamic should’ve maybe done some flashbacks for the benefit of Sol’s backstory and was kinda sad at Pips reset. Here hoping next episodes are longer too, loving the videos guys. You’re definitely hitting it on this one! Keep it up, see you next episode!
Kudos to throwing out Cade Skywalker. The whole “rule of One” and Darth Krauth was my favorite Legends story. And you guys discussing and debating is just peak fandom. Throwing out takes and ideas that fans might not be thinking about, constructive criticism instead of other…kinds of criticism. This is as good and it gets 👍
I’m struggling to find any substance going into the last 2 episodes that would make for a compelling or satisfying ending. This show rarely has dialogue, rather exposition propping up a poor, contrived, uninteresting plot. 6/8… 1-2 hours tops for this to feel satisfying. Not happening. This story didn’t need to be told. It shouldn’t exist.
I think some these episodes should’ve been combined into one especially the first two and episodes four and five. And the reaction from the viewers maybe different
They made a lot of the episodes too short and now feels like they are going to rush through everything. Imagine last episode is an hour and half of just teasing.
God... LH does NOT know the deep cuts. She is NOT a fan. She isn't trying to actively ruin SW... she should just never should have been given the keys to dad's car. What a shame that this trash show might have one of the most important canon characters in it.
Guys the lack of runtime isn't the writers choice...The writer for eps 4 and 5 talked about runtime limits. MOST of the Disney plus shows have these pacing issues Marvel and Star Wars....
IMO what was there wasn't bad...the real issue is this felt like one half of a full episode. Would've been natural for the next scene to start the flashback. They should've gone with a six episode season with a few of the episodes being longer. These short limited series would benefit from binge or if they were to release key episodes together the way Bad Batch was doing.
Totally agree!
“The Stanger”/Qirmir and master Sol are carrying this hard. I like how he’s trying a different approach with Osha than what he did with Mae and he’s opening up little by little but isn’t coming off as a good guy by it. He definitely was her padawan and his back scar looks like a whip scar to me. It makes sense and he admitted he was a padawan a long time ago and she’s known to be older
Great episode! I truly enjoyed listening to your conversation about this past episode! Lots of great insight and I’m excited to see how they are going to wrap this season up with just two episodes left
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1:27:26 - 1:28:02 😊 I love you guys gassing yourselves up! That’s the type of stuff I like to see! You boys are really great in these videos, I’m glad you both can see that, people can often get in their own heads too much and get blinded by what exactly they have to offer. Keep it up guys! 👍
Such a great episode lads, you had so many insightful points and really dove deep into the lore and even the filmmaking process. I enjoyed your episode on episode 5 WAY more than I enjoyed Acolyte Episode 5
As you guys have pointed out. These so called Disney "TV shows" are trying so hard to emulate as these separate films rather than actually treating the TV show format as episodes. When TV shows aren't films. Not only for this how, but how many of Disney's other shows (the shows that Disney are actually part of and have their hands on it rather than just providing the financial means and marketing) are also taking this whole approach of "we want to be films". No wonder that so many networks, not just Disney shows, are taking their sweet time (feels like it) is because how these showrunners and writers are operating and treating shows differently. There is a reason why shows back about 10 years ago or so where the wait for shows were only about 1 year apart. My problem with this kind of approach though is...i forget they're even on. Another problem with Disney is the whole "8-10 hours, they're films" thing is nothing but a load of marketing bullshit. When actually, most if all of their shows are roughly 3 hours to 40 minutes in total, with some yes being slightly over 4 hours. Which is why the budgeting for this show and their other expensive shows, baffles me. I feel like most of SW shows could have easily been just anthology films. I think that was Disney's original intent to have these SW shows be films. But ever since the Mando S1 show became a surprise hit to them, all of a sudden the scrapped films are turning into shows. That's the only explanation to the weird structure these shows are doing, and maybe poorly done.
The college student jedi is Padawan Mog Adana, who works within Master Vernestras cabinet/office in the Jedi Temple.
Regarding TLJ, it makes me so happy to know you all feel the same way: 1/3 was great, 2/3 not. When I liked it, I loved it… when I didn’t like it, I hated it.
1:46:13 this is the best episode you guys have ever done. Great Convo can’t wait for next weeks
This show feels like its only just started. And yet we still be drip fed Sith lore. I could say plenty of negative things about this episode but I did enjoy that Qimir figured her out straight away and applied a completely different tact to what he used with Mae, where before he was this masked faceless authority figure giving Mae orders, with Osha he's laying himself bare and appearing vulnerable to abuse her curiosity and lust - Great discussion as always fellas
What you said at the beginning is exactly how I feel. Dragging their feet for so long and now that it feels like it’s getting good, the shows only just started
What you guys are forgetting is that the ACOLYTE has had LOTS of fighting vs Ashoka already. Good fight scenes as well. So at least there's that. I happen to really dig the show. We've Also seen ALOT of displays of power as well. ❤
Glad you’re enjoying it!!
Awesome conversation!!!! Thanks guys
All I care about is the Acolyte spinoff about HOW IN THE WORLD MOG become a Jedi Knight?!?!?!
1:03:35 from Star Wars to human Anatomy 😂😂😂
My biggest problem is what every Disney Plus series have as a problem. Too much of a rushed ending episodes/too few episodes. There’s 2 episodes left to conclude all this and it doesn’t feel like enough. A lot has to happen and it’s not enough time.
I feel like there just isn't enough time left to make this all wrap up well like I want it to stick the landing but it's just a meh 7/10 at this point
A 7/10 is giving to much in my opinion.
@@JustinVillarreal 7 means fine
1:10:12 ok now we gotta see your college film!!!!
Im not sure if guys heard this or not but Abeloth is rumored to be in season 2 of Ahsoka and people want Either Liev Schreiber or Gerad Butler as Baylan Skoll
Agreed, I enjoy the quiet moments in star wars, but this episode was awkward. Little story related answers, a bunch of small lore tidbits. But then again, nothing new really. A little character development, but minimal. I thought we were gonna get some more backstory to expand on episode 3. But I'm optimistic. 4.7/10 episode.
Too often the show just feels like fan fiction. Some fan fiction had the soul of the writer put in it, but you can tell that it was a fan that did it. It’s had its moments lately, but too much is being played up.
This comment was before I got to the part that Konnor brought it up, as an FYI haha!
Imagine me watching these video of yours and like listening to all this just cause of Manny Jacinto' role. He really is a great actor and he had that kind of presence on him in this show that draws you into him. I'll be honest, The stranger is the most interesting character in the show. I hope they don't fuck him up and threw in bad writing.
Agree with you there! Hope it closes strong with Qimir
If Osha "harmed a unarmed person", maybe that why Quimir had Mae attempt to kill Jedi without a weapon 🖖
I think that Qimir and Osha scene is more sensual than sexual if that makes sense
Bro she checked out his sausage like 3 times
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth DingDong the nude?
That's what "the female gaze" is. Take notes, lads.
Such a hard watch. At this point I wouldn't be surprised with a Scooby Doo ending...Venestra pulling off an actual mask...
Awesome show you two!!
Would like to welcome Mr. Woo to the Master Tier!!
Basil isn’t really helping the pacing issue I thought he would be key to learning that Mae switched places with Osha but… nothing so what was the point of having him there. Loved the Osha/The Strangers dynamic should’ve maybe done some flashbacks for the benefit of Sol’s backstory and was kinda sad at Pips reset. Here hoping next episodes are longer too, loving the videos guys. You’re definitely hitting it on this one! Keep it up, see you next episode!
Kudos to throwing out Cade Skywalker. The whole “rule of One” and Darth Krauth was my favorite Legends story.
And you guys discussing and debating is just peak fandom. Throwing out takes and ideas that fans might not be thinking about, constructive criticism instead of other…kinds of criticism. This is as good and it gets 👍
36:04 this might sound like a dumb question but what exactly is the Bane line?
I’m struggling to find any substance going into the last 2 episodes that would make for a compelling or satisfying ending. This show rarely has dialogue, rather exposition propping up a poor, contrived, uninteresting plot.
6/8… 1-2 hours tops for this to feel satisfying. Not happening.
This story didn’t need to be told. It shouldn’t exist.
I think some these episodes should’ve been combined into one especially the first two and episodes four and five. And the reaction from the viewers maybe different
amazing how critical people take 90+ minutes to talk about a 30-minute tv show.
We talk about a lot more than just the tv show 🙏
They made a lot of the episodes too short and now feels like they are going to rush through everything. Imagine last episode is an hour and half of just teasing.
God... LH does NOT know the deep cuts. She is NOT a fan. She isn't trying to actively ruin SW... she should just never should have been given the keys to dad's car.
What a shame that this trash show might have one of the most important canon characters in it.