The Dutch Elections Explained
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- In a landmark election, Dutch voters have resoundingly backed Geert Wilders' right-wing Party for Freedom, echoing a rising wave of right-wing populism across Europe. This significant political shift in the Netherlands raises crucial questions about its implications for both the nation and the European Union. "EU Flash" will explore these dynamics, providing clear, concise analysis.
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The most difficult thing about this election was not who to choose, but how to unfold the ballot, because the booth wasn’t wide enough for an A0 ballot with 26 parties listed on it. The unfolding and the folding back of the ballot took more time than the actual marking of the dot on the ballot with the red pencil.
Man spitting the real facts here. Nice.
At least you guys get paper ballots in the Netherlands! We're not so lucky in the United States...
That damn lizard
You guys you guys have 26 parties and I thought the 12 we have in Denmark is a lot 😅
@@chrislambaa7586yea we have alot lol
I don’t understand why the EU wants to die on the open migration hill. The fact the the EU has aligned itself against any attempt to control migration puts it on a grave danger. While the European people all across the continent voting against letting anyone in without any control, the EU needs to distance itself from open migration policy, and reform itself to a tighter migration policy, or the EU project might collapse. People want to be part of the EU but also wants tighter migration policy, those two doesn’t have to be separated. Brussels needs to wake up.
I agree, the EU should take a more neutral stance or at least be supportive. Great countries in Europe have fallen in standing thanks to too many immigrants not accepting the country. It doesn't help Europe is always the destination for other countries' failures and crises.
Because the EU is Governed by anti European traitors.
Most migrants are Europeans from within the schengen area. We need them because they do the work we our self don't want to do. Refuges are a minor problem created by the vvd themselves.
Well, the reason why the EU stimulates mass immigration is because they want to get rid of nationalism (dutch nationalism, german nationalism, etc). Nationalism is what hinders the EU's project to abolish national democracy in favour of a big EU state. As a dutchman im quite happy Wilders' party won even though i didn't vote for his party. The radical-extreme left is a danger as big as the extreme right nazies last century.
@@quincyquincy4764 "We need them because they do the work we our self don't want to do." - if the payment from doing these jobs increased, based on supply and demand, people from wealthy countries would do these jobs again. In such a scenario that you just described, too much immigration that alters the supply is bad, because it perpetuates said salaries low enough for the natives not to work in the coresponding jobs. And what would you do when poorer european countries have emptied from people? Will you then start importing people from Africa and Asia, replacing the native population with less beautiful ones?
Immigration was the most deciding factor of voting in the Netherlands, all to no surprise except for some people in their ivory towers. The Netherlands has a massive housing shortage for example. Also a majority is not required to form a coalition, and NSC argues a minority coalition has benefits to hold power in parlement.
In general, coalitions and even political parties just lead to political stagnation and gridlock. The party leader of the NSC has said as much. We need to return to a system of people running on their individual name and putting the 150 people that get the most votes in parliament, as our democracy was initially set up before the parties formed.
@@TheSuperappelflap Interesting. And as to your last point, sorry I don't know my history, what's that with the 150 individuals being directly voted into parliament? Doesn't that become unwieldy, or does it go by province? Trying to imagine/understand how that would be an improvement.
@@tatianak.-p.554 it wouldn't. political parties came about for a reason.
@@kimwit1307 Haha okay, thanks.
Immigration was such a huge issue, because it affects several other factors, it affects housing, it affects security and wellbeing at the places where these immigrants are housed (and denied proper methods to integrate), it also affect income disparity, with them willing to work for less. This also holds back important innovation, as manual labor is cheap enough, so that machine or robotic solutions aren't invested in. Lastly, immigrants costs a ton of money, at least the overwhelming majority has no value to the dutch economy at all and will cost over an average of €300 to 400K per person over several years before having any return at all. With them coming in by the thousands (over 220K in 2022), this is simply unafforable, despite our unsustainably high tax rates.
There were other important topics that mattered to all but the richest of voters, the cost of living has risen immensely over the last years, there is a huge housing shortage, our healthcare is too expensive and almost broken to the brink of collapse (waiting lists and underpaid and understaffed hospitals and gp's), our public transport is too expensive and barely functions, we have pollution and health concerns around the Tata Steel plant, Schiphol Airport, Biomass Energyreactors and other large chemically polluting factories.
Meanwhile other parties are more focused on the global and EU agenda of climate solutions that are ridiculously expensive and unsure to even help, or they want to buy out or reduce the numbers of farmers, who are not only highly succesful, but also the ecologically most advanced in the world. This view is not shared among the vast majority of the dutch voters, they care more about keeping our economy and food production and reducing ACTUAL pollution over questionable energy sources like wind and solar.
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People and EU members don't have to worry about Nexit. Even Dutch citizens don't favor an exit from the EU. The main priority of the Netherlands and Geert Wilders is reduce migrant influx, resolving housing crisis, better accessible healthcare and more purchasing power for common people. People voted him on these issues. Even Geert Wilders himself mentioned before election what would be his priority. Nexit was never mentioned by him in any election campaigns this time.
Partly correct. A nexit will never happen due to the Dutch polder model... such a decision must be supported by the majority of the 2nd chamber and must be approved by the 1st chamber... so a nexit will never happen. The fact that a Nexit does not happen has nothing to do with the voting behavior of the PVV voters. In fact, the PVV voter is poorly informed about how things work in the EU. EU regulations and treaties are largely the cause of the problems (housing shortage due to environmental treaty and too little construction for years), the EU immigration treaty ensures that the borders cannot simply be closed to migrants. In short, the PVV solutions are only possible with a nexit, which is not going to happen.
@@You-mr3lo I disagree. Not all, but many solutions can be executed even being part of the EU. Abolishing family reunification for asylum seekers and limiting the number of foreign labors and foreign students can solve the immigration problem to huge extent. It would be difficult to completely stop the asylum, but it is possible restrict the numbers.
@@TheIndianTechie007 Disagree wat you want. The largest company in the Netherlands, ASML, cannot do without highly educated knowledge students. Brabant has been the innovation hub of Europe for some time, but complains that it is so difficult to absorb these promising migrants. This would mean that Brainport's growth would once again be thwarted. Not such a great idea to keep students out, but to concentrate them in regions. For example, ASML has opened a second office in 's-Hertogenbosch. That city can house the Knowledge Hub together with the Eindhoven region.
This makes it possible to take into account the other "lesser-privileged" migrants who can be spread across the Randstad and the rest of the Netherlands.
Family reunification... then we are talking about 3.6 percent of migrants, and only 2.8 percent if you include Ukraine. That's going to make a big difference? Then the rights of family members of asylum seekers. According to the quote below, the EU only allows conditions to be adjusted. They may not be excluded from the labor market for more than 12 months "Rights of family members Article 14 of the Family Reunification Directive lays down a number of rights for family members. The family members have, among other things, the right to access education. In addition, family members have access to vocational guidance, vocational training and further training. Family members may also work as employed persons or as self-employed persons. Member States may establish further conditions regarding employment or self-employment. Member States may not exclude family members from access to the labor market or self-employment for more than 12 months."
Your turn. :D
The Netherlands in particular exiting the common market...... 😬😬😬
It would be suicidal......expecially for their ports and import export. And to deal with migrants you have to work with other Europeans on the common borders, otherwise others simply let migrants pass and go the Netherlands....... Like Mexico does for example, I mean there isn't a sea between the Netherlands and the EU. The EU would just ship those migrants to the Netherlands.
@@Doge811 It won’t be a problem because, Netherlands also can choose not to allow those immigrants. Because when they are out of EU they don’t have to comply with EU policy to let migrants in. In fact, EU members cannot simply push them to Netherlands. So your analogy doesn’t make sense. People don’t want Nexit because of trade mainly.
The EU need to take note their policies are not what people want
But they are. The majority of the electorate voted in favor of all these policies: continuation of immigration from Africa and Asia and green deal, at the 2019 EU elections. It is not the fault of the Commission if people do not know what they are voting for. But you can accuse politicians of not explaining, or deliberately hiding from the electorate the ultimate results of their political programs.
Climate Hysteria included. Not just immigration from Asia and Africa.
EU is a totalitarian regime, doesn't care about peoples wants.
@@tomorrowneverdies567they literally did not. People do not vote in favour of those things in Europe or in America. Or anywhere really.
@@tomorrowneverdies567 They clearly aren't. The result of these elections show that much extremely clearly. 3 of 4 of the top parties are against continueing EU policies in the same trend as previous years. 2 out of 4 are against intervention. 1 (the largest) wants to reduce the effect if previous intervention.
Only one party (led by a guy that was EU commissionary) is in favor of continueing EU intervention. And I know that many people voted AGAINST him to make sure he wouldnt get his way.
To clarify, the PVV of Geert Wilders is actually only really rightwing on 3 issues: Reducing immigration, reducing funding for climate funds by focusing on adaptive control measures or cheap alternatives like isolating housing and lastly they are primarily focused on issues concerning dutch citizens. (which means also reducing EU influence)
On pretty much every other topic, they are considerably on the left spectrum, willing to invest in housing, health care and reducing the costs of living for lower income people, for example.
You could easily argue it is a good thing, considering the situation in the Netherlands. Shockingly, the establishment parties are not happy with this, despite this being a very clear democratic victory, they are often unwilling to work with Wilders. The dutch citizens couldn't care less, the voting total for those establishment parties were less than half of what they had at the last elections, it is a clear punishment for years of political malpractice and corruption.
This is all fear mongering, there is little doubt that if a Country benefits from EU participation, by far a away it's the Netherlands, by a collossal margin, Netherlands is a successfull economy, for many reasons, it had Gas, and when it went it resulted in a economic problem known today as the dutch disease, but there is also a gigantic elephant in the room, the Port of Rotherdam. This was always an important port, but it was massively expanded in the last few years, I am certain all that trade doesn't speak Dutch. Basicly the main gainer fromn NEXIT would be very easily found, Antwerp.
@@pedrorequio5515 I do not expect a Nexit, but I would welcome it, because while the economic benefits that the EU trade gave us early, we are now paying for the incredible disparity of the weaker economic countries, as there is an enormous trade deficit with those nations and they are not spending their EU funding on investment or innovation for their future.
I would be okay with this situation and probably a substantial portion of our population would be as well, as people in the EU are our brothers and sisters and I would hope they would help us if the situation was reversed.
However. the non-democratic aspects of the EU, the drastically increased influence of the EU council on our own government and decisionmaking and most of all; their plans for the future and ridiculous spending, it is simply too much to bear.
We are no longer being generous to nations that are our friends and trading partners, we are spending on a socialist, totalitarian euro-federation, that has no reason meddling in our affairs, spend our money, or even have a right to exist at all to begin with.
I love Europe, I love the countries we have in the EU, but I despise the EU governing council, that are radical, out of control extremists, that want to build a totalitarian federation superstate, with all sovereignty of our nations completely eradicated, reducing us to mere provinces. They've already printed the Euro into the ground, causing massive devaluation of the currency, and they are spending it like crazy on things most european citizens would not approve of if they only knew.
@@pinobluevogel6458 Why the EU council is the worse ofender? It's the one I prefer most, the council defends Nation states and represents them, what do you what that pencil pusher parliment, you know there are a lot more MEP from other nations than Netherlands, they and the rest of the frugals would be massively outvoted, or the Commission which is totally unelected and has sole Legislative initiative, the Parliment just exists to rubber stamp their legislators.
@@pedrorequio5515 The commission is indeed the problem, although the Council has its own problems. I think we are roughly on the same page, but do not fully understand eachother's points. Thanks for clearing this up though.
He is a very conservative party with modest right ideals overall average, if you take all positions.
Though any elections never end the winner taking it all making all changes, they have to compromise a lot and I mean with 3 or 4 other parties it is a lot.
he is not a racist and the majority of foreigners has voted on him even me.
Food and energy prices are through the roof. There's a huge housing shortage. There's a lot of people who want these issues sorted FIRST, before we can think about migration / climate and EU issues. You could see this coming from a mile away.
And how do you expect these challenges to be solved by a party whose solution is being against everything?
less migration helps the housing shortage. Where do you think migrated people sleep?
@@TarikDaniel he is not wrong do., he only said it in a crazy way :D... the dutch cant find any houses anymore., the coverment that was in charge for 12 years.. made a mess of the country... imagging waiting as a dutch teener mininum for 10-15 years for a normal house...why so long? they give them all away to people that just came in for 1-2 years? how is that even possible
@@z3ro7o I get that and agree that it needs to be addressed. But I don't see how things should be improved by a party who has no solution for any of the issues, let alone for every other topic
@@TarikDaniel its easy the last team/vvd had 12 years. And its a mess now. Now people had enough
At 0:39, there are several islands that belong to Germany, not the Netherlands.
Sorry
Gast ze hebben het Duits waddengebied geannexeerd 😂😂😂
@@hondacivic-uo8ne😂
No, they're Dutch now. This video is the proof.
did this channel just KOLONIZE german terratory? LONG LIVE THE DUTCH EPIRE!
On June 1, 2005, a consultative referendum was held in the Netherlands on the European Constitution. A majority of voters (more than 61 percent) voted against. It was the first national referendum in our country. Three days earlier, the French had also rejected the Constitution in a referendum.
Although the Dutch referendum was consultative and not binding, the House of Representatives factions that were themselves in favor also stated that they would respect the result. Due to the outcome, the cabinet subsequently withdrew the bill that was supposed to regulate official approval.
The question put to voters was: Are you for or against the Netherlands' acceptance of the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe?
According to the official results, 61.5 percent were against the European Constitution and 38.5 percent in favor. The turnout was 63.3 percent.
Love to Geert from Britain ♥♥♥
2 GRAINs OF SALT :
1. Dutch senate has increased its importance last years. This opens windows for mixed votes on politics and chances for opposition parties, because a majority in the senate is not guaranteerd for the current coalition options. This offers more freedom for both chambers to influence the coming government, regardless of ruling parties.
2. A strong culture of coalitions with 2+ parties. The far-right has no choice to accept the reservations of pro-EU parties like the VVD. BBB and NSC are more conservative but still moderate in their EU vision.
True, there might not be a lot of progressive EU politics in the Netherlands, but also not a decline. It probably will stay close to the current position. There will be some changes with effects, but not a serious change.
@@Person11068
UKs gdp is doing well anyways and many corporations are moving there like Shell for example. EU is more of a political union than a trade union nowadays. Netherlands can take on the role to be just like Switzerland.
Also PVV can form a coaltion with Fvd, sgp, bbb, ja21, sp, nsc/vvd. Pvv is the largest and lets asume theyre going to take that role and not drop all their opinions. As other parties want to be in the government too theres a big chance the pvv can still leave the EU
@@mcj2219you don't live in the UK and have no idea of its economic situation.
Companies left and right are leaving England setting up base in the EU to avoid costly birocraci and moving their jobs along with it.
They were actually encouraged by the English government to do so.
The mai reason why SHELL moved to the UK was to avoid taxes(comit tax fraud) since they did not want to pay taxes in the nordic country.
Vvd keeps taking in more immigrants. Opposite of normal right wing view
@@mcj2219 UK is not doing well economically. Statistically since Brexit it is one of the worst economies in Europe. Both covid and brexit took a big hit on the economy.
The EU is still a free trade union. It guarantees free movement (free means without tariffs) of people, capital, goods and services.
The Netherlands wont be like Switzerland ever again. We tried being neutral in ww2 and that didnt work out. We want strong alliances to make sure we never have to suffer war again. That means being active members of the EU, NATO and the UN.
If we did leave the EU we would just lose our vote in the EU just like the UK did and still have to follow most of their laws to import and export products to our largest trading partner.
Thank you for the German islands 🔥🔥🔥
European countries are only strong as a block. Our contries are so small that ,without unity, even our most strongest contries wouldn't mean much by themselves at a world scope. These news are obviously sad for the people who want to see our block more unified. However, i understand people vote for these leaders, europe needs to protect itself from the outside world as letting foreigners come in bulk is not helping at all
I don’t understand why a third positionist party hasn’t yet emerged in Europe. Why isn’t there a pro EU party with fierce anti-immigration rethoric and a pro Ukrainian stance? No matter if you vote left or right, you get shit😐
@@lenydrake1716make your own party... thats democracy is all about.
@lenydrake1716 simple because anti migration and left parties don't work and pro ukrain yeah not with zelenski in power when your cash is send to one of most corrupted country in all Europe and after so long no progress is made less and less people will support Ukraine
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 have the "deep state" imprison you under the "terrorist" accusation, like it happened to two parties that wanted to end immigration from Africa and Asia in my country Greece....thats democracy is all about.
@@lenydrake1716
because those two are contradicting world views. people who can read and understand science will never vote for fake newsers and the ones that can do that but want stronger immigration control are the moderates at the EPP.
Why do people seem to think that the EU is super open to immigration? Instead of seeing what a challenge and headache it is, no matter who is in charge?
Objectively, its effects are somewhat overblown and people refuse to look at the whole picture. But also, it's not like there's a simple switch that leaders in the past have refused to flip, and anti-establishment parties would do any better managing this or governing in general. Regarding illegal immigration, the push factors are so immense, just how much resistance do you really think can and should be put up to stem the flow?
Geographically, the EU doesn't have as many advantages as the UK and the US do to make "the problem" go away.
Oh funny because when covid came around borders went shut really quick!
Nice try, theres WAY too much of them here in the Netherlands and thats going to change. Time to sent a large portion back to Africa and the Midle East. Were done sharing and caring for ungratefull parasidic criminals.
Psssssst, don't bring reality into the conversation. The right wing parties will magically end immigration and all our problems will go away.
Why do people think that the EU is super open to immigration? Because it obviously is.
Guarding the borders is not actually that complicated. Nations have done it for hundreds of years, and that was before they had drones and sensors and all kind of technology.
What should be done? Any boat approaching European coasts should be intercepted and towed back to Africa. Any ship that has brought illegal migrants should be confiscated and the crew arrested and prosecuted. Anyone who who provides financial support or organizes in any way the transit of illegals across the borders (like some NGOs who own the ships carrying people across Mediteranean Sea) should be considered as organized crime and treated accordingly. Stuff like that!
You don't even have to change the laws, most countries already have the proper laws, they just don't enforce them.
What is done instead? Criminal charges are brought against Matteo Salvini for not allowing a ship full of migrants into Italian ports. Accusations are brought against Hungary for building a wall (more like a fence, really). BBC & Co. histerically yellling around the clock that Poland is racist for not wanting migrants. Have we forgotten Angela Merkel's declarations?
So yes, the leadership of Europe is all for migrants. It's ridiculous to claim otherwise.
Bro what do you mean there is a literal sea between the EU and Africa.
This doesn't include any mention of the Dutch Senate, which is elected separately and needs to be taken into account, as they must also approve any lawmaking.
That is why BBB is important, they hold a significant chunk of the seats there (16/75).
Great format!!!!
Thanks for News!)
don,t worry EU , what we Nederlanders call right populist party,s is what the rest of the EU calls a right leaning party
and what we call a centrum party is what you would call the far left
This
bruh this guy is literally calling for leaving EU and banning a book
@@omarma7815 yes, but this guy cannot form a government alone, needs coalition partners, and the first point to go will be his "nexit" point of view.
@@omarma7815 the book needs context though, is it a dictionary or a book fueling hate?
@@SirAmnesia I hate the quran but it's not different from the torah and the bible
, we can't go around criminalising every bad book out there
Ok but wouldn't it be funny if Romania somehow managed to gain Austria's support for Schengen, only for the Netherlands to pull it's support again
Thanks for this video
you are welcome
great content! is the video mentioned at 3:45 about Romania and Bulgaria potentially joining Schengen in Dec 23' posted?
Idea for fast integration to EU new members + Schengen for Romania n Bulgaria are disappeared…
That's good.
Good, keep your gypsies.
@@kostadinasenov6423 There need to be higher requirements for joining the EU.
@@RolgiAs a Romanian, I agree. Unlike Romania and Bulgaria, the West seems utterly incapable of guarding its borders.
Yes, Schengen would help business, but it would also make Romania much more unsafe. I hope we'll never join.
Idk i wouldnt mind giving up some money benefits if romania and bulgeria can gaurd the migrant flow better.
Good news from the Netherlands!
Great! Well done !
0:38 Thanks for the new islands! But I think that Germany would like to keep them.
“Diversity was our downfall”
It always was , ask the romans .
Except in the Dutch Golden age when French, English and Jewish people who were being oppressed back home brought their ideas and led the way. Rene Descartes and the American founding fathers (pilgrims) being just two examples.
Was..... is
No, diversity make a downfall when islam is in the majority
@@lucyfrye6723those are all very similar peoples though that can’t really be told apart by looks
I love your little laugh when you said 'net receiver'.
Best of luck!
There are some errors in your video which I MUST address.
1: Not 'the Netherlands First', You are confusing the United States (maybe because of the red white and blue), Wilder's idea is Netherlands where the state again cares for the indigenous people.
2: There is no rising of right-wing in the Netherlands. PVV is not even right, it cannot be extreme right. Its only 'right wing' opinion is on immigration, it is more a center left party.
3: We vote on PEOPLE not on parties!!!!!! I cannot understand how no one ever looked at the Dutch vote list and then think you are voting on a party. You vote on a person, the person that gets the most votes gets the first attempt to form a new government as its prime minister. It just so happens that every person is affiliated with a party and most people are lazy so they simply color - with a red pencil, all electronic options proved too easy to hack - the first name on the party they want to vote on, but please realize that this is a vote for an individual!
Please my dear journalists, if you want people to trust your media, do some journalism. Do not let that beautiful and most significant job for freedom and democracy degrade.
I can add to it that there is no mention of parties in the dutch constitution, the concept of parties is actually currently messing up trias politica that the other winner out of nowhere Omtzigt wants to address, there is more to it than meets the eye here. Wilders is accused of going against the constitution by Omtzigt whom wants to change the constitution hence also wants to go against it basically but he considers himself as justified unjust and Wilders as just unjust, no pun. Pressure for change is coming from defacto realistically centered left, ironically. The problem over here was also extreme economical right politics combined with extreme left woke ideologie which makes people extremely confused because it goes into all possible directions, the reality is not aligned anymore with the classical idea of left/right. It is not clean swapped instead it is interleaved with each other and it creates new directions.
Well explained. Thank you.
The EU Parliament elections next June are going to be very interesting
Finally the PVV on top.
It is always fun to see the predictions you made come to be.
The next steps of this social process will be interesting.
The question should be is the EU great ? it has declined over 50% economically compared to the USA in 25 years. That's a record they try very hard to keep quiet. There is a reason why the right is winning elections all across Europe, this great Left Wing experiment has been a dismal failure.
Yeah I think so too, the downside is however that the winners won't work together meaning the 37 zetels for the PVV won't have too much use.
Euh....they got 25% of the votes? Means 75% doesn't want PVV. Lets see what the formation brings.
25% for one party is a whole lot & rightwing parties probably don't want to work with leftwing ones
A shame you lefties didn't use this logic when leftist coalitions were killing our country with WAAAY less votes than 25%..
the pvv has not made a coalition yet if it fails to do so other party's can make a coalition that outnubers the seats of the pvv but they also need a party in the 1st chamber which is the bbb(16) or the vvd (10) or groenlinks must be in a coalition with the pvda both have 7, if wilders can get the bbb in its coalition it would likely just need a small party if they need another party
To give some context about the alternative coalition without the PVV; this coalition would include the right leaning liberal VVD, centrist NSC, and the 3 largest parties on the center left, D66, GL, and PvdA. The last time we tried such a coalition it was, in proper French, a fucking clustertruck. And the people would be very unhappy if it happened again.
comment section is a great read here. Quite a lot of constructive comments 👍
Many Dutch commenters.
But it's not just dutch constructive comments. And i find it such a breath of fresh air from the standard US-dominated comment sections. Well, says a lot about myself too i guess 😅@@svenjansen2134
Russian AI bots cheering for the Russia funded far right lunatic
Not a surprise.
Thanks for the extra Wadden Islands.
I wonder why the netherlands parlament is so small? Our parlament in Sweden is more than dubble their size with much smaller population. Does anyone know?
Because of the absurd ideology of "a small and decisive government" which would be cheaper and more effective....
Well, we've seen how that works out.
@@jesseverkaik7671smaller governments are better.
No need to bloat your parlament as a lot of countries do.
@@Alto53 No they're not. The wealthiest, happiest countries are those with a decently sized government.
That is not to say that things can't be streamlined though, in the Dutch case the VVD has tried to shrink the government, and in the process has made it utterly incompetent in some aspects, leading to the need of new committees, external hiring etc. But that's all the result of the fever dream of a "small and decisive government".
@jesseverkaik7671 larger governments are less accountable due to having too many functions to keep on top of, thus allowing corruption to be more likely. Also, larger governments require more funding, which requires money printing or excessive tax burdens - which both rob the people of their wealth; either directly or via inflation.
Then there is the issue that the larger the government, the more power it has, which isn't a good scenario if the wrong leader gets put in place who abuses that power.
A healthy balance is necessary, though, as a too small government is less capable of reacting to emergencies.
As long as we don't adopt harsh measures against illegal migration and we always allow "humanitarian issues" to stop us from mass deportations etc sooner or later entire Europe will start voting for far right and ultra nationalist political parties..
This is the bitter truth
if our govern Elite-idiots that not understand, then it's necessary.
We can start with deporting the once that have been processed and need to go home.
If we stopped the mass streams of illegal migrants, and didnt give them permanent residence permits, we would have plenty of space and money to house real refugees from warzones temporarily until they can return home.
Weren't mass deportations in the netherlands tried in the Netherlands in the 1940's?
In hindsight, it didn't prove very popular did it?
You opine mass deportations of a different minority group would prove more popular?
Learn much from history?
@@Rey.Nasidodeport Muslims before they take over your country. Don't be a cuck.
Sad day..
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What an excellent explanation! Many thanks! (already subscribed)
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Don't worry, Netherlands will never leave the EU!!!!
How do you know? Because you don't want to??
@@gustaafpeeters6173 Because we are not as stupid as the English.
@@gustaafpeeters6173because most core pvv votes say they eould remain in the eu, but want reform.
Our nation does trade and export where not stupid.
@@electricangel4488 It's a risk though, people in the UK thought the same thing. I still voted PVV by the way.
@@electricangel4488 if pvv come to power imo they will still be in the EU BUT they will pull out from some stuff like immigration
"The Dutch citizens have decided," no. That's not what happened. A large MINORITY of people that had always been there, has moved their vote BACK from anti climate populist parties towards an anti migration populist party. It's not as big of a move as people are making it out to be. That same block of people has voted similarly in the past. The only difference is that this time, the VVD, the center right wing party that had ruled for over a decade, made the strategic mistake of letting the public know they would be open to working with the PVV now instead of ruling them out before hand.
What a load of bullsh*t
You are living in denial if you don't see how big this movement is. Its not just the PVV, its also the NSC and BBB that are only this big because indeed, the Dutch people decided.
@@Tiasung NSC are CDA-light. BBB is another general right wing protest party, just like FVD (who got a very similar decrease in votes). And the PVV has massively toned down their rhetoric to appeal to less far right people than their usual base.
People may have voted for different parties, but ultimately the proportion of people who voted for what kind of policy remains the same.
@@Khalkara😂😂😂Sure...
I think the moderation of views on the PVV's part led to their victory. People who were previously deterred from voting for the PVV due to their stance on Islam and the EU have now voted for them as they adress the two biggest issues of the country for most people, that being migration and social security. Most people see a party like PvDa/GL as a party trying to accomplish multiple things that are all directly at odds. Like solving the housing crisis, but also wanting more windmills and solar panels (in some instances local counties wanted to allocate space for housing development, but these were stopped in favour of solar panels) Or not wanting to decrease immigration despite there already being a massive shortage in housing.
Solar panels in northern Europe is peak retarded. Nothing the EU does will stop china and India building new Coal power plants EVERY year. Climate change is inevitable.
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
Solving the housing crisis isn't directly at odds with building more windmills and solar panels (you can build windmills in the sea, and solar panels on roofs).
You also do not solve the housing crisis by decreasing immigration, even if you were to fully cut off any form of migration it wouldn't even make a dent in the availability of housing.
You solve the issue by building more housing, which GL/PVDA wants to make happen.
@@Khalkara How does it not make a dent in availability of housing if you don't have to house an extra 100k+ people?
And building is not allowed because of co2/nitrogen regulations, guess which new left wing party leader worked in Brussels to advocate and promote these regulations.
I’m not Dutch but this whole thing seems so familiar to me
“Our policies created the problem/made the problem worse/made the problem impossible to solve but now we promise to fix these issues without fundamentally changing our policy “
Good luck Dutch Bros
"A resounding vote for" to put that into perspective, they got 25% of the vote.
...which is a lot in the Netherlands
@@luuc yes but saying it like that makes it sound like they got a majority and are now the ruling party.
Even the map you show is wrong, where is "zeeuws vlaanderen"?
as a Dutch citizen, I wondered a lot lately how one was complaining loudly over not always the biggest problems.
a lot of things that we will hardly hear about in the coming future it was in my opinion a lot of infighting we will soon be missing.
there is a point to be made that the media are more and more aiming to spin and contribute because of the willing public.
it is not the first movement toward populism
the senate election earlier this year was won by the BBB Farmers Party.
what's a bigger problem then the Dutch potentially being a minority in their own country? Sweden is set to have that fate by 2040 so it's not that outlandish.
BBB didnt win because of populism, they won because the previous cabinet had a clear agenda to force farmers to sell their land and then turn around and sell it to housing project developers. Also, they had the police shooting peaceful farmers that were protesting.
@@internethardcase what minority we were always an immigrant country we were getting rich in culture and monetary gain by the Portuguese Jews like Spinosa and Mercator who came here in the 16 century we got Germans polish English who came for commerce and some fled persecution from the church.
@@oorzuis1419Yeah thats white immigration, not importing low IQ Africans from the third world in mass
Rotterdam is the murder capital of Holland not because of the Jewish migrants or the Polish
@@oorzuis1419 Wrong. "We were built by immigrants." please stop taking talking points and your politics from America. Secondly, other Europeans in small numbers is nothing compared to the mass migrations happening from third world non-western nations. Dutch don't even represent the top 20 nationalities that cause crimes in the Netherlands. Thirdly, Other Christians fleeing other parts of Europe in small numbers is very different from Moroccan Islamists that hate the nation they are in. you're just so wrong on all accounts.
Well done Netherlands 👏
I've got a request: can you make a timeline of the rise of extreme right parties in power in all European countries? Which countries were the soonest? Which countries have managed to stay clean of extremism?
From neoliberalism to nationalism, great change
Do you have problem with that Joe Biden suck up?
Omfg
reddit hot takes
From right to further right.
what's a bigger problem then the Dutch potentially being a minority in their own country? Sweden is set to have that fate by 2040 so it's not that outlandish.
Why are they against the eu?
netherlands is a negative eu member, we are fairly wealthy as acountry in the eu and invest more into the eu than we receive, this has gone to some problems with funding in our own country so we want to pull back a bit and make all countries more even. this will give more funding to help our own state
The question should be is the EU great ? it has declined over 50% economically compared to the USA in 25 years. That's a record they try very hard to keep quiet. There is a reason why the right is winning elections all across Europe, this great Left Wing experiment has been a dismal failure.
Yet we forget we also profit from the EU with trade. Which is very important for us. This is why most parties in The Netherlands are actually FOR the EU. @@roypoutsma7870
@@roypoutsma7870 how much of the dutch budget goes to the EU budget though? Isn't this very low anyways? If I were dutch, I would be more concerned about the evolution of the demographics of the Netherlands.
@@roypoutsma7870have you learned nothing from the uk?
Thank big corporation for lobbying for immigration, so that they don't need to pay higher wages.
As a Dutch person I would like to say that the Greenleft coalition wants completely open borders. NSC, VVD and PVV REALLY do not want that. so Don't expect that "alternative" coalition of yours.
Also... "Over 200 possible coalitions"?! That might be mathematically Treu. But some parties will simply not cooperate because of opinion differences. Making the number closer to 5 possible
Any chance Wilders will approve Romania and Bulgaria in Schengen?
@tacoteusday9597 Man, I hope by some miracle they approve us this December while Rutte is still PM 😖 But honestly as a Bulgarian, this disrespect of many western Europeans towards our 2 countries is making more and more people fed up over here and I imagine it ain't much different in Romania. So if the West keeps on spitting in our face and continues to take us for granted, they shouldn't be surprised if we too start drifting further away from the EU. This attitude towards us is absolutely insulting!
@@roxader4299 For Wilders its not about your countries but the impact on the Nederlands. The NL is a very small country and its historically contributed quite a lot for its size.
The problem is more the EU and its policies and the effect it has on the countries that are a part of it. If EU guidance was good it would be a different story.
You can thank EU leadership for this mess.
Since he's been hating our guts for years, my guess would be... no. :-)))
Who cares about Schengen? I am Romanian and the economic impacts are not even that great
@@roxader4299Bulgaria also seems to have a lot of Russophile people.
Which country can take me in
Iran
The Saver of the Netherlands 🇳🇱
Why did the clipart of the Netherlands have the German Frisian islands too? Those are not of Dutch territory
You are dutch. I wonder how you feel about it :) I wonder how Netherlands will vote Romania joining Schengen. :) We already have problems with Russia...sorry, Austria .
Since Wilders is actively against the EU im certain they'll veto Romania once again
We already did vote Romania for Schengen! Love Romania from Netherlands
@@BrandonBDN times are changing my friends....
@@ursdanielwhat you mean?
Only Austria is against Romania now... if I recall correctly, the Netherlands blocked Bulgaria's entry to the Schengen zone, not Romania's
The Dutch did not overwhelmingly vote PVV. More than 75% of the people elected another party.
Yes, it's a landslide victory for PVV but do keep things in perspective.
All right wing votes in total are close to 50 percent...true left votes are barely more than 30 percent total.
@@kiekiekHe says the Dutch overwhelmingly support Geert Wilders' party. That's incorrect
Sounds like copium. Are you always this nuanced?
@@electricangel4488"copium" when it's the truth? The comment literally says PVV won.
This argument would have never been made if it it was PVDA getting these numbers its such a sad cope😂
“The conservative liberal people’s party for-“
What the fuuuuck?
This video is a decent representation, but not entirely truthful, regarding certain political views from possible coalition members.
This video also doesn’t explain why nsc became so popular, whilst it’s a very interesting suvjext
So Hungary, Poland, and Netherlands now? Praise logic and reason.
Poland actually kicked out the far-right in favor of a moderate and pro-EU coalition. And to be honest, Hungary was to be expected after a longer rule by Orbán than by Rutte in the Netherlands. Slovakia though definitely belongs in the sequence with the recent SMER victory.
Why are those who lack logic and reason the ones who talk about logic and reason all the time?
Not importing a horde of migrants that want to destroy your culture is logical.@@andrisk2703
Italië 🇮🇹
Hungary’s democracy is a joke.
The new boss in Netherlands its married to a hungarian women. I wonder if viktor has just found a new friend! :)))
Perhaps, but not because Wilders wife is hungarian 😛
Really, that is suspish
Orban has officially congratulated Wilders with his victory.
married to a jewish woman*
@@victorsamsung2921 Timmermans has also officially congratulated him. I guess Wilders is pro-EU after all?
My mates in Africa are yesterday departed to the Netherlands, can they still come and get some money there?
Are you aware that you gave us more Wadden-islands than we actually own on your map?
When are people going to stop deluding ourselves about this so-called "Strong European Unity".
I've never seen a more fragile and unworkable unity than the European Union. Expect more of this in the future.
Then you haven't looked
The amount of ignorance and hatred in Europe right now is really sad
Ye,they should kick out islam!
we dont have that much islands
Again, we will not get two new members in Schengen this December
Oh great, now Bulgaria is never getting into Schengen...
What is a bulgaria?
@@mastermindvideos898 something Schengen-less or unschengentifiable in the near future it seems
This was always going to happen no matter what the lefties wanted you to believe. I personally didnt vote PVV but I understand why people did.
Ok facist 😊
0:36 The Netherlands has annexed Borkum and Juist
I never really understood the reason behind the whole coalition thing.
doesn't that just boil down to a set of pre-negotiated agreements based on a pre-selected set of issues that parliament needs to vote over in the coming term?
and doesn't the notion of "if you vote this way on our agenda then we'll vote your way for yours." just seem a bit... corrupt?
call me old fashioned, but i'd rather see a per subject discussion and open sharing of information which is then debated, discussed and voted on instead of a pre-determined "yes because coalition." why else are we paying them...
How is that corrupt? It is deeply engrained in our psyche. We would LITERALLY drown if we didn't work together. Why is it bad if the winner doesn't take it all? If there are too few parties then you see this phenomenon where you simply refuse to give the other party what they want most. Just out of spite, even if you don't really care all that much about it yourself. In a coalition system you want the other guy to be happy. That is not a bad thing if I phrase it that way, right?
I am sure that Geert Wilders knows that there are thousands of good, decent, hardworking Muslims in The Netherlands. He just wants ALL immigrants to accept thee Law of the Land not the dubious law ordained by an unseen deity in the shy. People that want to uphold such a law should be happy in the land where that sort of justice is acceptable. So peaceful and kind and considerate. Why would anyone want to leave such a paradise on earth. Unless it is to spread their good news.
Wilders should take that advice himself. Cuz the law of the land (the constitution, no less) explicitly prohibit many of the things he has advocated for. Like banning the Koran.
The problem isn’t Muslims, it’s the political ideology of Islam that entraps them. It’s a permanent liability in the West, given how extremely illiberal it is and how radicalisation is actually quite easy to justify doctrinally. After all, what did ISIS do that Mohammad didn’t?
Thats what Pim Fortuyn said too. And we know what happened.
can't you just threat criminals as criminals without assigning a belief? Every culture has bad people, that doesn;t mean that the culture is inherently bad, plenty of muslims work and respect the laws in the netherlands why attacking their whol;e beliefs because "insert random racist populist reason" ? You can address illegality but when you do so by addressing a whole culture it's just racist and dangerous, do we really need to cultivate racial hate that inevitably becomes fkin vigilante style murders?
Big friend of Israel
though the dutch election system is quite an interesting one, i prefer going to the confederacy model the old dutch system but with universal voting rights.
NEVER that VVD and PVV will be in a coalition together, PVV shows so much hate to VVD and PVV is in a coalition with FvD.
We live in dangerous times.
Indeed, the part of migrant populations that are free loading and getting a free pass from leftists are ruining all the big cities of Europe. It’s time to put a stop to the unchecked migration, and the welfare provided to migrants that encourages them to come in massive amounts. There should be checks and balances about which migrants can enter, prioritize those that are educated and can immediately start giving back to the economy and immediately deport with a lifetime ban on entering the EU any migrant that is found to spread violent rhetoric, support towards terrorism, rape, murder, theft… or in other words: any migrant that’s not an upstanding citizen and isn’t interested in integrating to the country they migrated to has no place in the EU and should be deported.
Yeah thanks to mass migration hopefully that will change, Sweden went from a Utopia to a the rape and murder capital of the world
No shift, just protest!
The Dutch are open-minded but the national social fabric is suffering in all of Europe with the arrival of un-integratable, inflexible people who insist on instilling the 'values' of the wonderful societies they hailed from...
Except that our neighboring countries don't seem to have nearly as much issues with integration.
If you want to just spite people who don't look like you, then just come out and say it. Don't be a weasel and try to put blame on them to justify your xenophobia.
@@Khalkarawhat like that new year night in germany or those belgian boys shooting up brussels and paris.
Nobody fucking hates brown people. The left has betrayed the working class and we fucking know it.
@@KhalkaraUuh Sweden is the rape and murder capital of Europe Germany is in fear that the AFD will become the biggest
France was fucking burning by these diversity bringers because some criminal refused to ably to the law
Wtf are you talking about?
@@Khalkara I think Belgium, Sweden and Denmark might disagree with you
My country supports all EU immigration policies hand has a laxed aprouch to concession of visas and nationality, so rather predictably Human trafiking networks have flooded in. These people are not persecuted, but they refuse to adjust culturally, this week in a town nearby where my brother works, a policemen was stabbed and the reason is supper stupid, some regular guys were having a pint of beer in a cafe near the courthouse and some Iranian guys came and started to prevent them from drinking in public(a regular thing in all of Europe, where public drunkeness is the Law of the land), the police came and they stabbed the police.
Fuck them, I dont care about their god, they can pray all they like but disturb regular guys at a cafe having a beer is not OK, just because, unbelivable.
Kleine correctie, je noemt de vvd conservatief maar dat moet progressief zijn.
People start to wake up. Hope its not too late for EU
This isn't waking up, this is snoozing your alarm and going back to sleep.
For decades the Dutch electorate has been voting for right wing parties, who screw up the country for most people at the expense of the rich few.
And in response to this trend, right now the Dutch electorate in large part votes for.. A right wing party whose policies are not going to fix any rea problems.
They are falling into a deep sleep
I hope it is too late, fucking EU needs to go and go soon. Nation states are the answer.
I always find it amusing how countries deflect blame away from themselves, the UK did it before Brexit, always blaming the EU for all the wrongs, Italy does it a lot, not many of them look at the mess they've created in their own country and it becomes easier to deflect public attention onto the EU.
When it comes to immigration and migration of people, the EU has limited powers in what it can actually do as most of it is still at national level, normally that wouldn't matter but being in a union of open boarders changes it where it impacts all EU members, the real problem isn't the EU as such, it's the problem of having a union of open boarders whiles at the same time having each EU member having it's own policy on immigration.
Basically, major reforms are needed and if the EU countries want to continue having open boarders among themselves, they really need to give powers to the EU to enforce its external boarders and immigration policies, otherwise you'll keep getting 27 different voices pulling in all directions, which is where the real mess is.
im pretty sure hungary and poland got sanctioned for not taking migrants
The Netherlands has the highest population density in Europe at 416/km^2. The areas the migrants want to live in, the cities, have at least 3000/km^2. We simply dont have space for more people. This country was declared full at 15 million inhabitants. We now have 18 million. It has to stop. We have to have population decline, and if not for mass import, we would have it thanks to aging population, low birthrates, and emigration.
The EU has already started a collaborative border control agency called Frontex, and they are doing their job. The number of illegal migrants that arrived in the Netherlands this year is less than half of what was projected. Unfortunately, we still cant house all of them and they are sleeping in tents, or under open sky, outside the asylum centers. We simply cannot provide them with the bare minimum, a roof over their head, food, water, and hygiene. We are overwhelmed.
Our own citizens cant even find a roof over their head, many people have to move back in with their parents due to rising cost of living and lack of affordable housinh.
@@TheSuperappelflap i agree with stopping mass migration. I do not agree with Wilders wanting to get rid of every single person with a different background. That's insane.
@@Proton23757 Thats not what he said though. Thats just what the media and progressive parties say about him. Wilders never said, remove all people with different backgrounds.
@@Proton23757 His views are very similar to the late Pim Fortuyn. Limit the influence of islam, because radical islam is a danger to our country, to democracy, to religious freedom and a secular state. And limit immigration.
I would more accurately describe him as anti terrorism and anti breaking down of the Dutch culture. What's wrong with that?
Diversity has been a part of Europe for the past 2 decades. There are already millions of people with immigrant backgrounds in Holland. They now have kids and grandkids. Immigration can't be stopped. Diversity and Europe are intertwined. London is the best example of diversity. It's a melting pot of people from all over the globe.
Thats every party
a melting pot of knives from all over the globe@@blackman4life
@@blackman4life London has been overrun by primitives, thanks to the stupid policy of fools supporting unchecked immigration and mass-importing useless leeches.
@@blackman4lifeYeah thats why its a complete fucking shithole and we dont wanna end up like London where Somali's send their kids back to Somalia because its safer than London
Very good. Time to change.
I didnt know that Germany “Ceded” The Wadden eilanden to us xD
I just want to say that I'm sorry for my fellow countrymen.
The ones that cant find a house because Mutumbi from the plaines of Africa got it first without adding anything to society before hand?
@@deeznutz8320 Go back to school. I've heard about a teacher shortage, but still, try harder.
@@tatianak.-p.554He's right though, and this is why PVV got elected. Heck, even the moderate parties like NSC and VVD attribute the housing shortage to migrants.
@@deeznutz8320this is nothing but a racist comment and it got 12 upvotes. this comment section is lost beyond belief
he is not wrong do., he only said it in a crazy way :D... the dutch cant find any houses anymore., the coverment that was in charge for 12 years.. made a mess of the country... imagging waiting as a dutch teener mininum for 10-15 years for a normal house...why so long? they give them all away to people that just came in for 1-2 years? how is that even possible.. @@homeape.
PVV gestemd voor de mensen van Ter Apel ❤ Solidariteit!
Je hebt overduidelijk niet goed nagedacht over je stem, met die beredenering.
@@Khalkara zoek even een filmpje op van hoe het daar aan toe gaat elke dag, wil jij ze in jouw achtertuin hebben/laten graaien in jouw fietstas?
@@KhalkaraSolidariteit met ons volk niet buitenlanders waar we voor dokken zodat hun kunnen inbreken mishandelen etc
Dat is wat daar aan de gang is, moeilijk voor een zelf hatende tata
@@Md-ub6ed Je spreekt m'n punt niet tegen, het vliegt over je hoofd heen net zoals dat bij de OP.
Als je een groep mensen haat omdat ze lid van een bepaalde groep zijn, dan heb je geen solidariteit.
Zeg gewoon dat je buitenlanders haat, wees geen laffaard en doe alsof je om andere mensen geeft.
Cant wait for a Nexit
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"An Overwhelming amount..." is probably going too far. Wilders got the vote of about 20% of eligible voters. 1 in 5 is not "Overwhelming".
In a political landscape as fragmented as the Dutch one, that's quite an achievement though.
Except that it is.
There are two arguments here that need discussing:
Firstly, there's the old argument that a winning party only got X% of the vote and thus "doesn't represent the majority".
However, you won't find very many elections where the winner gets over 50% of the vote and thus "represents the majority" of their country. The Netherlands have several parties and so the vote is inevitably going to be split several ways. It is very, very difficult to get over 50% of the vote in those circumstances.
Secondly, there is the argument presented here that the winner "only got X% of the votes of elegible voters".
Again, it's a poor argument that assumes all those who didn't vote wouldn't have voted for the winner!
Both are arguments made by losers to make themselves feel better.
@@robertstallard7836 You don't know what "majority" means.
Coping in response to people pointing this out to you, doesn't change this.
@Khalkara
At the same time, you seem to be stranded in pedantics, since his first point explained really well what a political landslide victory is. In elections no one in NL will receive a majority vote where one party can rule alone.
Cheers, someone who didn't vote PVV and doesn't even like the guy.
@@AthCom In the Netherlands (waar ik woon) there a fair to midland chance that Wilders won’t even become PM.
Resounding vote , realy 23 % of the people voted on that party . not that resounding as its not winners take all.
Nice copy and paste argument if the PVDA got these type of numbers you would have called it a ultimate victory
We do not need a majority in the Netherlands to form a government. Pieter Omtzicht (NSC) prefers a minority government in witch case the government would have to seek support in the lower chamber when it wants to make new laws.
They literally explained that in this video..
Well there goes our Schengen membership for the next 4-5 years. And here I thought we had to wait for the Austrian elections next year to be rejected again.
I assume you are from some country in Balkans or around there, dont worry. We finally got Croatia in the eurozone and we are happy to take all your land and acquire your capital, erm, I mean, welcome you to our free trade union. As far as the Dutch are concerned, the more tariff-free trade partners we can ship cheap chinese plastic to for a small fee, the merrier. The people you should be worried about are ze Germans.
@@TheSuperappelflap There's much to be worried about but the Germans are not that high on the list. Turkey and Russia are both behind us so no matter where we moon we get a phallus in the tailpipe either way,
Hope everyone else follows! Safe Europe
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