ASW Gameplay Comparison - Cold Waters VS Dangerous Waters
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I made the video that shows the difference between the game 'Cold Waters' and 'Dangerous Waters'. Two games are different and have their own style. They are not meant to be the same game. Hope you guys enjoy the video.
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Imagine the graphics of CW in DW.
Just Wow.
They are indeed very different games. Dangerous Waters is focused on the procedural aspects of operating submarines. Cold Waters is more "game" like, intentionally so, but the sonar model isn't necessarily less realistic.
Oh, let your conclusion stand for more than half a second, than one can possible read it. Interesting comparison.
It pisses me off that Sonalysts basically abandoned DW and disappeared in thin air. I even tried contacting them via e-mail (several years ago) to inquire about the possibility of a follow-up game or at least patches for DW but was never able to get the faintest response out of them.
They focused on government as client base
말씀대로 각각의 스타일이 있고 재미가 있는 게임들인 것 같습니다.
다만 비전문가로서 항상 궁금한게 있었는데요, DW에선 나한테 날아오는 어뢰의 정확한 TMA가 어려운데, CW에서는어뢰의 위치를 실시간으로 파악해서 피하는게 가능하죠. 현실에서 잠수함의 상황 파악 능력은 어떤 게임에 더 가까울까요?
DW가 더 현실에 가깝습니다. CW나 여러 잠수함 영화에서 나오는 것 처럼 어뢰의 위치를 실시간으로 파악하는 것은 사실상 불가능에 가깝다고 생각하시면 될 것 같습니다.
Nice. Just let the action speak. Thrilling.
DW still best realistic game on these type!
Imagine DW with CW's Graphics
It's a pity that it's so difficult to run well. It doesn't like Windows 10 very much.
Check "Modern Naval Warfare"
Dangerous Waters is the best simulator for Cold War scenario! Hard and cool!
Cold waters could do with better graphics. I would prefer it if there was water that sprayed realistically off the bow and the swell looked realistic with foamy water
Now, since you recorded this video at a high resolution, then uploaded it for your audience...the viewers aren't able to see what the panel numbers and information being displayed. Just because your system can run your game at high or ultra high resolutions, doesn't help us viewers much in what exactly is going on. And it would help your viewers if you lowered your resolution to 16x9 or 13x6 scale so your recording software can keep up with your graphics processor....this will give you the best of all worlds for game play and record/uploads...not to mention file size for post record editing. Food for Thought on your next recording/upload.
Of course you cant see the text on a phone screen. Use a regular sized monitor and everything is clear.
Everything is clear and easy to read even on the phone
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alpha buried in the bottom, this is a very interesting anti-torpedo maneuver
It was probably due to the glitch that was present in the game when I took the footage. It's been fixed long time ago, so it should be fine now.
DW Is the Best CW has the best soundtrack tracks music 🔥
CW: Lovely graphics. Action. (Way) fewer bugs. Dynamic, procedural campaign (with the same missions over and over), makes no sense (You're the only friendly naval asset in the whole conflict?!). Mostly automatic (TMA, Classification). Expensive.
DW: Cheapz. Graphics very dated. Buggy. Handmade missions. Interesting campaigns, but static. Impossible to use mission creator with little to no documentation. Hands on with optional automation when wanted. No cheating with 3D view, your 3D only shows what your sensors can see and what you classified. Multiplayer (very fiddly though).
I wish they took DW and made a remake of that with the realistic graphics of CW. Including the ability to use surface vessels, an mission editor in the style of DCS perhaps, in depths system operation, etc. Mods like LwAmi or Reinforced Alert can only do so much with a crappy engine.
I wish I'd be able to command a Kirov CGN (is that the right classification?) or something modern like a Type 45 DDG or a Kongo DDG. OHPs are fine and all but that single, Mk13 launcher really makes it useless in anti air...
Is that submarine some type of mod??
Which mods for two games?
RA mod for the DW and Reduced Underwater Visibility mod for the CW.
DW is more realistic lol. Why devs these days focus on graphics?
Probably they wanted a more general audience to play the game. I would like to see a game that is detailed as DW but it wouldn't possible these days.
graphics take, artists, a pipline, shader writers, and software enigneres, and every egine version they do upgrade graphics graphics must run on a graphics render system. this companys primary products are training tools for the miliarty. so graphics are not a priority, reliablity, accurace and compelx systems. graphics use up a huge amnount of the "resource budegt" but offer very little in terms of simulation. they offer somthing for sure. which is why they do improve over time. and the next engine out between 2025 and 2030 will be nicer likly useing a better render. liek drectx11 or openGL. with miliarty tools you need stablity, fancy stuff is not as robust.
another big issue is staff. to work at thier company you need to be a US citizen, and have speical military clearance. aka most VFX artist, texture artist and modeling artist plus Tencincal drectoris lack those creditals. so you have a smaller pool of tallent to draw on and they cost more. usally they have simularto software devs some hardcore math dudes, etc. and they do some of the art, and then they have some modelrs and artist but they do alot more then even in smaller dev compaines would break up these jobs into more people or roles. it the nature of thier primary bizness. the "Games" are just public comperisal realses of new versiosn of thier enigne projects. look up steelbeasts same kinda idea.
you are using a mod for DW? the akula seems very well designed for some reason compared to the original game...where can i find this mod?
it is russian-made Reinforce Alert addon. you could find it there redrodgers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=172 check the first post of thread "ReinForce Alert - worldwide discussion"
3000 fps XDDD
What kind of Dangerous Waters Mod are you using?
I am using RA mod for the Dangerous Waters.
Arcade vs Simulation.
That is too simplified. DW is not a simulation either, because a submarine isn`t manned by one only, or is it? In that regard CW might even more realistic. And that is what it is meant to be: A command simulation.
In the video, I have disabled AI station capabilities for the DW to demonstrate what player can actually control at each stations comparing to the CW. For the multiplayer, DW even supports multi-crew features for the submarines. Anyway, both games are really well made and fun game to play.
As I mentioned on the description, two games are different and have their own style. They are not meant to be the same game. Hope this helped you out.
DW with every autocrew activated is totally a command simulation and you do not need to micromanage any station.
Plus DW's main screen is the tactical map and not the external view like in CW so it can be completely disabled and it's not a mario kart underwater like CW is!
Thanks. I will try DW as well. I bought a bunch of submarine games in a bundle and DW was in as well.
Hi, I just bought DW but despite ticking every "autocrew" button in sight, I still have to micromanage my own ship by telling it to activate its radars, CIWs, fire its missiles and guns and do evasive manoeuvres etc because the crew won't lift a finger to help themselves, and it's a real clickfest chore under fire.
How can I wake up my dozy crew so i don't have to nanny them all the time?
I've not had Cold Waters long and am still getting into it, it certainly looks good graphically. But I've had Dangerous Waters for years and can say I don't like all the micromanaging you have to do because your Perry crew are too dumb to do it themselves.
Also the external 3D view is spoilt by having silly "uncertainty birdcages" on other vessels, check out my DW threads in the Subsim and Armchair General forums under my fighting name 'Poor Old Spike'.
Tungsten Kid btw the game is super tactical and you need to Peel your eyes on Every information,which sucks.
I agree. Dangerous Waters is great in theory, but the workload quickly becomes too great to be handled by just one person. You have to watch active SONAR, passive SONAR, DEMON, navigation, fire control, target motion analysis, etc. How the fuck did the game designers think a single brain would be able to handle all that??
@@antred11 You can have your crew handle a good part of it. Autocrew is a thing. Not as effective but it shouldn't be. I played it for only 2 days and im getting the hang of it. Only played silent hunter before. Requirements are still the same. You need bearing, range, speed and course. On top of it your torpedoes got some self-steering capabilities. Dangerous Waters is a more slow paced experience where Cold Waters is like a war movie. It depends on what you are looking for. Action or tension? Because while Cold Waters is nerve racking, at least you can visually see the torpedoes wich is not the case most of the time with DW. CW is a better game but DW is a better simulation.
@@antred11 Sonar is the heart of the game, the crew do a fairly good job with the rest of it.
I find using the sonobuoys in the choppers to be the most tedious aspect, that and the fact the chopper AI is dumb as rocks (which makes it tedious to play with the OHP at times). It's easily the worst aspect of the game. It can be fun to play with the P-3, however, as it's a fairly powerful platform (unlike the OHP, sub's can't really touch you for the most part).
Comparison?
Dangerous Waters is a rather serious sensor sim with a lot of possibilities due to the sandbox nature of the game.
Cold Waters is as shallow as a dirty puddle where the only thing you ever need to do to escape death is to wiggle your subs tail.
One is a sim, the other a fucking mobile game that was released for Windows for whatever reason.
Cold Waters is DRECK.
Dangerous Waters still the best, Cold Waters is a fucking arcade for noobs!