Excellent upload length it kept suspense going that's often lost if the video ends right after the last game and then like post talk is a separate upload. What an awesome result I'm so proud of Johnny idk if I've ever seen him play better
Rewatching the first game and I only counted 5 times that Zain actually approached S2J. 2 of those came in the last stock when he started getting impatient/feeling the pressure.
@@SpOoOokyGhost you right. I just wanted to see if there was any warrant to people saying his playstyle is lame. And approaching 5 times in a 4 minute game is pretty lame in my book.
@@samskott2344 Which is why Mango always loses to him, because he goes aggro non stop. Zain is like PPMD, his dash dance is amazing. If thats considered lame, so be it.
@@RohanKishibe23 Exactly, its literally one of the reasons why Marth is such a good character. Saying Marth's dash dance is lame is like saying using shine is lame.
@@RohanKishibe23 Right, people opt out of using the best options simply because they think its lame. You're not gonna make it very far as a competitive player. Players like Zain proves that you can be flashy as well as playing defensive. Hell Westballz was the quintisential example of that before Zain.
@@theinktician or aMSa for that matter. Yoshi, and Pikachu will be the bane of Zain's marth existence. He may very well figure out the falcon MU like PPU has for the most part(I'm aware he lost to johnny), but he will struggle like hell trying to overcome those two wacky MUs against those two players (axe n aMSa)
This video was just recommended to me in 2021. Some updates: Zain no longer loses the falcon MU, but a super-hot Johnny can still 3-stock Zain when he's playing like a bitch (he played SO scared in set 1 at 4Loko). Zain still hasn't beaten Axe's Pikachu
I thought it was good and kept suspense but I couldn't be more biased towards Johnny. Not only because he's awesome but because I'm 1-0 on him in doubles and I'm putting that on my tombstone tbh.
Man I really feel for Vish and Chillin having to interview Johnny in the spot like that. How do you make entertaining content from man who says so much with so little?
10:14 What happened here? How did Zain turn around so quickly and get a grab after crouch cancelling a hit? Did the hit turn him around or is he just that fast?
To me, it looks like he crouch cancelled the second his of Nair; he was already crouched because he low profiled the first hit. Impressive that he reacted so quickly/predicted so accurately
It was by the players, much more seriously than The Mango is anyway. There was a lot of top tier talent obviously trying to perform, although I don't agree with the commentary criticism and think this event was treated like it should've been.
Karzahni - This is a tournament for a 17 year old children's party game, that centers around nerds roasting other nerds for being worse at the game and getting drunk out of their skulls. It's not that serious. Save the commentary complaints for TBH, Genesis or Evo.
vish: "zain adapts dude"
mango: "he really doesnt, he just dashes back even harder"
the most accurate description ive ever seen
I've tried playing like Zain as Marth and it really works Lol never approach and when you do get approached throw retreating Arials especially D tilt.
Somehow I’ve managed to never hear S2J’s voice until now.
You aren't alone my friend hahaha
You should sub to twitch.tv/s2jfalcon then.
I feel the same way about none.
Sexy ain't it?
first time I heard him have a full conversation
I would watch any event if the commentary was this entertaining
Sure, if you love biased af commentary.
Tim Griffiths its the roast of Hugo who cares nerd
Tim Griffiths they’re gonna shit on you if you play like a bitch and if your never approaching you a bitch and they’re gonna hype the guy taking risk
More summit style commentary can save melee
you mean you don't enjoy a narration of the characters actions followed by screaming? blasphemy
Great set. Id love to see S2J win a major.
He can do it. Just has to overcome Mango and Plup because he has shown he can beat HBox, Leffen, and M2K
I think its a shame that he probably wont ever get another shot at armada, he definitely could have jumped that hurdle in the near future.
@@danielbaumgartner572 He practically had Armada beat at one point. Johnny choked though and Armada reverse 3-0ed him, with S2J flubbing hard
It’s doable. He needs the right bracket tbh (one without Mango).
Excellent upload length it kept suspense going that's often lost if the video ends right after the last game and then like post talk is a separate upload. What an awesome result I'm so proud of Johnny idk if I've ever seen him play better
SHOUTOUTS
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JESUS
Hey is that a reference to Axe's stream?
@@loodledoodle hahaha yes it is, I now instantly think of it when I hear "S2J"
Chillin: Good Shit
Johnny: Thank you
Just saved you 10 minutes of the interview
Vish: Damn Johnny!
Except you missed all the fun banter...
Ive never heard greater commentator bias in my life lmao
I love this comment (not biased)
This whole year has been marth mains creaming over Zain on commentary, let the SoCal boys have this one
Dude it's Mango. Of course it's gone to be biased. Team America bro
Yeah it was borderline unwatchable. Those guys were so clearly biased toward Mang0, plugging his stream and whatnot 😤
You should watch mango vs chu
Thank you for keeping the video long so we don’t know the outcome before the video starts!! Much appreciated!
people here complaining about commentary at a LOCAL and at a roast event too smh what did you expect?🤔😂
Rewatching the first game and I only counted 5 times that Zain actually approached S2J. 2 of those came in the last stock when he started getting impatient/feeling the pressure.
I mean, it's Zain. He'd approach 0 times if he could really help it.
@@SpOoOokyGhost you right. I just wanted to see if there was any warrant to people saying his playstyle is lame. And approaching 5 times in a 4 minute game is pretty lame in my book.
@@samskott2344 Which is why Mango always loses to him, because he goes aggro non stop. Zain is like PPMD, his dash dance is amazing. If thats considered lame, so be it.
@@RohanKishibe23 Exactly, its literally one of the reasons why Marth is such a good character. Saying Marth's dash dance is lame is like saying using shine is lame.
@@RohanKishibe23 Right, people opt out of using the best options simply because they think its lame. You're not gonna make it very far as a competitive player. Players like Zain proves that you can be flashy as well as playing defensive. Hell Westballz was the quintisential example of that before Zain.
Does anyone else feel like these are some of the most solid S2J sets yet?? I dont remember even his combo vids being this nasty
"I'd let you live there, rent free!"
Mango is a fuckin buster and I love him xD
Damn, S2J's turnarounds, dashes, and fastfalls are just 🔥🔥🔥
5:47 brings back memories of lvl 9 cpu falcons
they fr never miss those
I love how when you get drunk, you always start saying how much you love your bros
great interview
Seconding everyone who's saying that commentary of this calibre would make any event enjoyable
Marth Falcon is my favorite matchup to play.
Johnny continues like this through the year he'll be top 10
Zain's only real weakness as a player (even though he lost to Armada he was able to bring it close) is captain falcon
Well it is a common belief in the melee community that falcon does win the Marth matchup.
lol I guess you think Axe won't fuck him up or something
@@theinktician or aMSa for that matter. Yoshi, and Pikachu will be the bane of Zain's marth existence. He may very well figure out the falcon MU like PPU has for the most part(I'm aware he lost to johnny), but he will struggle like hell trying to overcome those two wacky MUs against those two players (axe n aMSa)
axe will probably win. Don't think they have played yet though
Jonah Goodrich nah everyone thinks it’s even
“Johnny’s shitting on his life” fuckin spat my juice.
This set was so good I subbed to Mang0
"Good shit Johnny"
"Thank you"
S 2 J is siiick
The neutral and adaptations from both players in game 1 was sickkk
This interview is funny as hell lmao
This video was just recommended to me in 2021.
Some updates: Zain no longer loses the falcon MU, but a super-hot Johnny can still 3-stock Zain when he's playing like a bitch (he played SO scared in set 1 at 4Loko).
Zain still hasn't beaten Axe's Pikachu
3:41 can we call it the Armada Knee?
Ouch.
@@MrCocktaiI what? He missed it like the set against armada in genesis
Zain getting Hugo’d
14:40 Roast venue looking like a field trip to the New York Stock Exchange
s2j > mango confirmed
It's always great to see the low tiers show up at these tournies
Johnny with the Riverside spirit 💖
this is by far the most that I've ever heard S2J talk lmao
i thought we’d be getting a zain comeback when i saw the length of this video :( FeelsBadMan
Same lol
I thought it was good and kept suspense but I couldn't be more biased towards Johnny. Not only because he's awesome but because I'm 1-0 on him in doubles and I'm putting that on my tombstone tbh.
@@Shadow-zi8nt of all the characters to complain about lmao
What? Feels fucking great man! Fuck marth!
would've been hype to see zain get a bracket reset that's why feelsbad
Vish and chillin are drunk towards the end lol
what mango said at 4:50 fucking snuck up on me lol. that feeling when you just fucking know
s2j godslayer-slayer
Big house baby
zain getting exposed by jonny
The Johnny pop-off at 4:05 👍👌🏿🍕
great W for johnny
i really don't believe this. THIS IS HISTORY
Man I really feel for Vish and Chillin having to interview Johnny in the spot like that.
How do you make entertaining content from man who says so much with so little?
Talk about Jonny's win instead of Zain.
Crazy set!
Fastest I've ever seen Johnny move, wtf
Is same ken vs isai
S2J: Hugo is a bitch
S2J is a LEGEND
Captain falcon baby
Johnny really be out here
"who do you play in brood war"
good quote
Zain continues to be shit at the Falcon mu, eh. Gotta work on that man. Grats to S2J
10:14 What happened here? How did Zain turn around so quickly and get a grab after crouch cancelling a hit? Did the hit turn him around or is he just that fast?
To me, it looks like he crouch cancelled the second his of Nair; he was already crouched because he low profiled the first hit. Impressive that he reacted so quickly/predicted so accurately
Yeah the hit turned him around.
Getting hit by the nair turns him around
Most attacks make you face them when they hit. Aside from peach and samus down smash, I think.
The people's champ has been reduced to begging for money during commentary
SPOILER
Congrats again to S2J
Who the fuck is this man that ain't johnny kim
Johnny's the GOAT
johnny is the man
Mango go falcon vs zain
4:32
His falcon is the funnest to watch
my children ;`v
Johnny dang!! Gg's
that dude No it’s Johnny Kim. Johnny Dang is the jeweler.
16:58 rofl s2j
12:55
Falcon Cheap
Marth isn't?
Still not Isai lvl cptn Falcon
lol
This commentary was horrible...
Implying this tournament was taken seriously by anyone LOL
It was by the players, much more seriously than The Mango is anyway. There was a lot of top tier talent obviously trying to perform, although I don't agree with the commentary criticism and think this event was treated like it should've been.
Karzahni - This is a tournament for a 17 year old children's party game, that centers around nerds roasting other nerds for being worse at the game and getting drunk out of their skulls. It's not that serious. Save the commentary complaints for TBH, Genesis or Evo.
I should have typed "this commentary wasn't professionnal and I didn't like it".
My bad.
It was entertaining, it's enough for me to watch other vids