Farewell Jurgen Klopp, goodbye Premier League season and so long VAR?

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  • Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
  • Listen to the audio version of the Totally Football Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or by following this link: theathletic.lnk.to/totallyYT
    Jimbo is joined in the studio by Duncan Alexander, Charlie Eccleshare and Sasha Goryunov to talk about all the midweek action in the Premier League, as well as the leaving legacy that is Jurgen Klopp.
    After 9 years at the helm, Klopp has his last game this weekend as Liverpool manager. There’s sure to be tears at full time from everyone involved with the Reds, as they take on Wolves at Anfield.
    Also, the team look forward to the last PL games of the season and what it might entail during the fight for the title.
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:55 The Premier League
    00:05:01 Spurs v Man City
    00:24:27 Man United v Newcastle
    00:27:41 Brighton v Chelsea
    00:33:11 Aston Villa v Liverpool
    00:37:52 Jurgen Klopp’s last game
    00:47:27 Outside the PL
    00:49:21 VAR news
    00:56:15 The PL season final day
    00:59:14 Inter Totally quiz
    01:10:07 Final comments
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    #klopp #liverpool #mancity
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  • @pooroldnostradamus
    @pooroldnostradamus 17 днів тому +12

    11:22 James sneaks in a brilliant little joke there

    • @sratus
      @sratus 16 днів тому +1

      He's a wit, that can't be denied.

  • @harryb1429
    @harryb1429 17 днів тому +6

    Great lineup. Sasha and Duncan best you get on the pod and Charlie makes a great and really interesting point at 21:40 about how the only joy fans get is out of others misfortune. This is so true due to City dominance and it making football culture particularly on Twitter worse and more toxic

    • @gentleken7864
      @gentleken7864 17 днів тому

      City need to be charged or told they're innocent. Allowing it to carry on is creating this toxicity when City lose. Everton and Forest were dealt with quickly, but City not.

  • @ethanmccarty3293
    @ethanmccarty3293 16 днів тому +1

    was at istanbul (aged 9), Kiev, and Madrid as well as Barca 4-0. being an Irish red has it challenges but would never change supporting Liverpool. Danke Jurgen, can't wait to be one of a lucky few to send you off on Sunday

  • @readyseteddie
    @readyseteddie 16 днів тому +2

    top job as always fellas! love Sasha when he's on!

  • @labkl253
    @labkl253 17 днів тому +6

    Sashaaaaaaaa

  • @eleanorzissou
    @eleanorzissou 17 днів тому +2

    Great conversation. Thanks!

  • @themaharaniscloset
    @themaharaniscloset 16 днів тому +2

    Only an incredible legendary manager can score 92,97 and 99 points in the premier league. Because getting to these point totals all depends on YOU winning games that YOU are in control of.. Winning league titles half depends on OTHER teams dropping points in games which you got NOTHING to do with.
    Klopp Scored more points than Ferguson's BEST league winning points totals 3 times.
    Here are the top 20 points tallies in Premier League history:
    20 - Chelsea 09/10 - 86 points(+71)
    19 - Chelsea 14/15 - 87 points(+41)
    18 - Arsenal 01/02 - 87 points(+43)
    17 - Manchester United 07/08 - 87 points(+58)
    16 - Manchester United 12/13 - 89 points(+43)
    = 14 - Manchester United 06/07 + 11/12 - 89 points (+56)
    13 - Manchester City 11/12 - 89 points(+64)
    12 - Manchester United 08/09 - 90 points(+44)
    11 - Arsenal 03/04 - 90 points(+47)
    10 - Chelsea 05/06 - 91 points(+50)
    9 - Manchester United 99/00 - 91 points(+52)
    8 - Liverpool 21/22 - 92 points(+68)
    7 - Chelsea 16/17 - 93 points(+52)
    6 - Manchester City - 93 points(+73)
    5 - Chelsea 04/05 - 95 points(+57)
    4 - Liverpool 18/19 - 97 points(+67)
    3 - Manchester City 18/19 - 98 points(+72)
    2 - Liverpool 19/20 - 99 points(+52)
    1 - Manchester City 17/18 - 100 points(+79)

  • @ChildrenOfTheVibe
    @ChildrenOfTheVibe 12 днів тому

    Just introduce a challenge system which forces the on field referee’s hand to review the play/sequence in question. Simple as.

  • @T.E.S.S.
    @T.E.S.S. 17 днів тому +2

    SASHA

  • @ArjunGhag-ix7te
    @ArjunGhag-ix7te 14 днів тому +2

    I'm an Albion fan. The Reds spent 3 times less than ManU/Chelsea in Klopp era but won 3 times more cups.
    ManC success was built on 115 FFP crimes.
    Without that cash doping, Pep wud not have the best squad in the world & still lost to Real Madrid & England Skipper Jude B. (As per daily mail sports pages & Sky Sports S.Warnock)
    When Fergie was boss, ManU was the richest club in the world.
    Klopp won titles & cups with a moderate budget. He literally won a cup with 7 - 10 kop kids aged 21 & under, (as per SkySports & Kelly Cates & Melissa Reddy & Stephen Warnock ) during a huge injury crisis in 2024. No boss has done that before vs a hugely expensive Chelsea team.
    Clough & Sir Alf won on tiny small club budgets.
    Compare gold to gold, not
    Gold to iron.
    Both are metals but not worth the same.
    When comparing bosses or teams, use golf type handicaps please.
    Cuz In soccer budgets matter more than coaching, its a very unfair sport. But fans become fans as kids & don't understand it as kids.
    When they grow up they can't stop supporting their little clubs, who will never be UCL winners.
    So they make the Reds thier co-favourite club. But Why LFC & not ManC?
    Well...
    1 To honour the Hillsborough 99 (or 97 or 96 depending on which way the tragic deaths were counted)
    2 Anfield is most magical field in all sports ask Rio F of ManU etc
    3 Only club to have 4 legendary bosses in Shankley - Paisley - Sir
    Kenny - Klopp. Only club were fans love bosses more than players.
    At the end of the day who stirs ur passions more?
    Who makes ur heart beat faster?
    Is it the above average looking woman wearing very expensive make up & clothes?
    Or do prefer the natural beauty who looks gorgeous with no make up?
    Do u prefer Maryln Monroe & Mila Kunis in thier pomp (Liverpool FC type beauties)
    or
    Viola Davis & Zendaya (ManC type women)?
    All 4 are top actresses but who stirs ur passions.
    Do u prefer the wild heart pumping passion of Klopps teams or the cold methodical death by a 1000 cuts of Peps teams?
    Klopp is Shankley 2.0
    Arne Slot is the next Paisley 2.0
    WBA Albion are my local club who i love a lot, but its the reds who stir my passions.
    1 UCL win = 10 premier league titles
    1 EPL title = 5 FA Cups
    1 FA Cup = 5 of any other cups
    As per the Prof Haq maths formula on the B'ham University web site.
    Im glad Jurgen took semi - retirement as his health matters to all reds & small club fans from Liverpool to Amritsar & from West Bromwich to L.A & from Berlin to Buenos Aires. Quickly Get healthier Jurgen as u will win the world cup with England soon.
    Great show boys

    • @ArjunGhag-ix7te
      @ArjunGhag-ix7te 14 днів тому

      Pep° feels guilty about 115 FFP crimes by ManC bosses. He only has worlds best squad by ManC big, big cheating in cash doping & transfers.
      ManC must be punished worse than Rangers & Juventus. ManC must be relegated to tier 5 & banned from inward transfers for 5 years.
      It's sickening to 99% of fans.
      All my WBA Albion season ticket holder mates agree. Its SICKENING & and it's hard to listen to Pep as fairness & fair play is the most important thing in all sports.
      If u aid cheating cheating then u 2 are a cheat.

  • @mustsilm
    @mustsilm 17 днів тому +6

    So they get rid of it cause the refs are not capable. Dont see much fuss with it in CL and other leagues.

    • @TerribleEnglish
      @TerribleEnglish 16 днів тому +1

      If you have match-fixing officials, VAR allows them to explain away the dodgy decisions.. but the problem is the people, not VAR

    • @matthewdobson100
      @matthewdobson100 16 днів тому

      go and take a look at la liga, there's loads of stuff about how Real Madrid always get dodgy VAR decisions in their favour. Also see the CL game between Newcastle and PSG, and the end of the CL game between Real and Bayen Munich (although that was more about the assistant and ref ballsing it up, but it's VAR related as it would normally have gone to VAR now and didn't).

  • @Mycliamon
    @Mycliamon 17 днів тому +10

    Love Sasha

    • @sratus
      @sratus 16 днів тому

      Why? He's way too partisan.

  • @stevelandwonder4760
    @stevelandwonder4760 16 днів тому

    The fixtures were always done by one person with a spreadsheet - is that still the case? Accounts for the Liverpool/Wolves...

  • @DannyTheGFP
    @DannyTheGFP 17 днів тому +13

    115 Charges FC win again

  • @NeilLewis77
    @NeilLewis77 17 днів тому +3

    Aa a Liverpool fan i wanted arsenal to win the league because city dont deserve it for cheating.
    But then i didnt want arsenal to win the league because it would disprove the theory that city are unbeatable because they have cheated.
    These are the sort of shit mental backflips we are all being forced to do while we sit and watch lance Armstrong get over 90 points every year.
    We all know that before city started juicing that getting 85 points was usually a champion season.
    Now i have to listen to people say klopp underachieved because he only got 98 points or 93 points or 85 points.
    Manchester cities owners have ruined our league.
    The sooner they are found guilty of cheating (which we all know they did), then the sooner they can get their 4 instant relegations and the rest of us can get back to having an actual competition.

    • @TheFormerkgbchief
      @TheFormerkgbchief 17 днів тому

      What makes me angry is it looks like Jurgen will end his PL career as third best, not how he deserves, as second best.

    • @TerribleEnglish
      @TerribleEnglish 16 днів тому

      ​@@TheFormerkgbchiefThat's his own fault, though. He chose to keep playing the players who were out of form, even when we were losing big games after another.

  • @iamamyb
    @iamamyb 17 днів тому +1

    Quite remarkable the coverage difference between a Villa who have now secured fourth and a Spurs side who, lets be honest, we've all known weren't getting fourth for a few weeks now.
    If someone could manage more than a "oh i guess we should also say well done Villa" at some point, that'd be super.

    • @TerribleEnglish
      @TerribleEnglish 16 днів тому

      But it could be a compliment that people take it for granted that Emery and Villa are doing it, whereas Spurs are endlessly interesting being so erratic.

  • @gentleken7864
    @gentleken7864 17 днів тому

    It's not a good season with the City case still unresolved. Charge them or say they're completely innocent. One way or the other, the fact the Premier League can hit Everton and Forest with points deductions quickly, all the while allowing City to continue winning things, is ridiculous. I want this resolved or you're going to get a large majority of people who'll rightly feel aggrieved that it's one set of rules for some teams and another set for others.

    • @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl
      @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl 16 днів тому

      Wow ur so stupid

    • @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl
      @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl 16 днів тому

      Learn to read and go back and read the reports again..

    • @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl
      @prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl 16 днів тому

      Il start .by giving u a clue..everton and ilk accepted guilt and punishment without challenge .hence got point deduction while city vehemently said they wer innocent and that they have irrefutable evidence .u still dont see why both cases are different?

    • @gentleken7864
      @gentleken7864 16 днів тому

      @@prodigalfraudaddy-es1gl Thanks, I can read. UEFA couldn't do anything because their charges are time-barred, the Premier League's are not. Also, City's owners are also charged for not cooperating with the investigation. They did nothing wrong? Why not cooperate? Everton and Forest did.

    • @TerribleEnglish
      @TerribleEnglish 16 днів тому

      They're delaying until the statute of limitations is up, probably. 😅

  • @Cronhour
    @Cronhour 17 днів тому +1

    VAR is easy. Just copy rugby

  • @TheFormerkgbchief
    @TheFormerkgbchief 17 днів тому +1

    All these hypotheticals are such a waste of time... Zzzz

  • @purehyperbole5727
    @purehyperbole5727 17 днів тому +2

    Ol' Kloppy's off. Hopefully he'll be happier out of football as he was a right misery in it while getting paid millions. Insulting, really.

    • @NeilLewis77
      @NeilLewis77 17 днів тому +7

      What?
      He's constantly smiling and back slapping and laughing and joking.
      Are you sure that it's not that the only time you watch him is on the touchline when he's in game mode or you watch his interviews after a loss?
      This week he did an interview with Redmen TV and he was happy to just keep talking for hours.
      At one point the whole interview descends into full on hysterical laughter with Klopp rolling in his seat slapping his knee.
      He's been disappointed with this seasons end but to think of the big grinning German who hugs everyone as being the bleak sad one is just crazy mate.
      Dyke, pep, ten hag, emery.
      The league is full of serious managers who look glum most of the time.
      Klopp is not one of them.
      So I wouldn't feel too insulted bud.

    • @purehyperbole5727
      @purehyperbole5727 17 днів тому +2

      @@NeilLewis77 You have fallen for his PR face. When it really matters he reveals his bitterness.

    • @NeilLewis77
      @NeilLewis77 16 днів тому +4

      @@purehyperbole5727 and you have ignored everyone who's ever worked with him who can't say enough about how great he is.
      Is he a sore loser? Yes.
      Just like Fergie, Wenger, clough, pep, Mourinho and anyone else who is a winning maniac.
      But so what.

    • @aotea6983
      @aotea6983 16 днів тому +2

      ​@@NeilLewis77just to save your sanity, life is easier when you don't engage with people online who are obviously just trying to bait people

    • @sratus
      @sratus 16 днів тому +1

      @@aotea6983 In fairness when results aren't going his way Klopp behaves like a petulant child, blaming wind, length of grass, the way the opposition play, kickoff times - everyone & everything but himself.

  • @Fpl8646
    @Fpl8646 16 днів тому

    That Charlie makes me 🤢 🤮. Unsubscribe