Jeff Hwang author of many PLO books once was asked in a podcast many questions about the game and the only one he couldn't answer was: what's the expected winrate for a good player... he just said: "I don't know". One thing you will learn about this game: no matter how deep you are, say 1000bbs or 2000bbs... even if all other players are only 100bbs, all your entire stack is at risk while you still sit playing there... no matter how big is your bankroll if it's in the poker site, it is entirely at risk... a 100buyin (or even more) downswing is not only possible, it will certainly happen no matter what you do. Even and specially if you are a good player... there's nothing you can do. You can be a winner in a short/mid term... in the long run all players are losers... the only way to avoid this is stopping playing... you can play a different game like a holdem tournament, or just cash out your entire bankroll and take a 6 month brake... then maybe you can avoid that... but if you keep playing, you will eventually go bust 100%... it doesn't matter how you play... that's something you will only learn if you play this game long enough... why that doesn't happen with so many those famous pros? Cause they do not play long enough, they all know this... the other part of the podcast they talk how easy is to win on plo8... its like printing money... then one of the guest said: what are we doing here talking, when we could go to a casino and making a fortune... the jeff answered: yeah right we could be there now and we would making a ton of money... but they weren't and they kept talking... what do you get from this? That we do a lot of things in our daily lives that doesn't make us any money and are even unimportant, when we could be playing making a fortune... but we still don't do it... why? Cause that's how life is... we waste a lot of time doing nothing, silly stuff cause we are humans and we need this... there's no such thing as FOMO... we are supposed to do all that as humans... we can't miss little things like having a small talk with your neighbour sometimes... watch the sunset drinking a cold beer... and also that's not how gambling works: it's not because there's a lot of money to be made in a poker table that you have to take all opportunities to be there... at the moment I'm writing this, there's probably a huge fish tilted donating his entire bankroll to someone else that's not me cause I'm not there, cause I chose to write an useless post on youtube... and that's perfectly ok!!! It's not because you CAN that you Will... there's a huge difference between things you can do and things you will do... so it is profitable yes, but that doesn't mean you will profit... it's not because there's a lot of money to be made in PLO that you will make... things don't work that way. That's what the so called "Grinders" get so wrong about this game... they play everyday like 10 tables for like 8 hours... the only thing they get for sure is rakeback... they have 2 things in mind: as they fear to miss out a good table they open the maximum number of them, and they put a big volume of hands in order to go through the variance... so they don't care if they are winning or losing as they're focused on ev only... so they play a ton of hands in order to beat the variance in the long term. They hate the idea of keep playing when they're up and stop when they're down... cause it's not an exact science... it requires "feeling"... no they hate that... they hate luck, they want to remove it from their game and play for their skills to pay off on the long term... what they don't understand is how long is the long run... they have a number in mind, something like 200k hands or 1kk hands... but it's not... there's no limit for how long a long term can be... you're not a slot machine that operates 24/7 for years non stop... you don't have the infinite bankroll that a casino has... you can't play 24/7... a casino has an infinite of stupid customers any time of the day and any day of the week... they can play for long run, cause they have all the time of the year to get their money back... we as a single player can't do the same thing... so that's why running good is so vital for players, we need results and ignoring the luck factor wont help our cause... and that's our fallacy: in chasing those results we kinda try to force something that we have absolutely no control to happen and by doing so we maximise our losses, we create unnecessary situations that wouldn't happen if weren't chasing results... so what's the take? Stop judging and classifying things as good or bad... profitable or not profitable... winning or losing... it's not about what things are... but how they will be... you can only know that if you let them happen to you... don't spoil them by forcing and chasing them!
Leon in the 1st hand with basically pair of kings in hand, nothing on flop & calls raise and reraise on a 2 out draw and flukes the K on the turn...more arse than king kong
isadurs couldn't stop laughing when Tony G screamed about his heart lolll
plo is sometimes alot of fun but mostly agonizing pain
It’s much fun than holdem but can be devastating at the same time lol
Actually holdem is a much more easy game but so boring
Deep stack plo is the most profitable game in poker rn
Jeff Hwang author of many PLO books once was asked in a podcast many questions about the game and the only one he couldn't answer was: what's the expected winrate for a good player... he just said: "I don't know". One thing you will learn about this game: no matter how deep you are, say 1000bbs or 2000bbs... even if all other players are only 100bbs, all your entire stack is at risk while you still sit playing there... no matter how big is your bankroll if it's in the poker site, it is entirely at risk... a 100buyin (or even more) downswing is not only possible, it will certainly happen no matter what you do. Even and specially if you are a good player... there's nothing you can do. You can be a winner in a short/mid term... in the long run all players are losers... the only way to avoid this is stopping playing... you can play a different game like a holdem tournament, or just cash out your entire bankroll and take a 6 month brake... then maybe you can avoid that... but if you keep playing, you will eventually go bust 100%... it doesn't matter how you play... that's something you will only learn if you play this game long enough... why that doesn't happen with so many those famous pros? Cause they do not play long enough, they all know this... the other part of the podcast they talk how easy is to win on plo8... its like printing money... then one of the guest said: what are we doing here talking, when we could go to a casino and making a fortune... the jeff answered: yeah right we could be there now and we would making a ton of money... but they weren't and they kept talking... what do you get from this? That we do a lot of things in our daily lives that doesn't make us any money and are even unimportant, when we could be playing making a fortune... but we still don't do it... why? Cause that's how life is... we waste a lot of time doing nothing, silly stuff cause we are humans and we need this... there's no such thing as FOMO... we are supposed to do all that as humans... we can't miss little things like having a small talk with your neighbour sometimes... watch the sunset drinking a cold beer... and also that's not how gambling works: it's not because there's a lot of money to be made in a poker table that you have to take all opportunities to be there... at the moment I'm writing this, there's probably a huge fish tilted donating his entire bankroll to someone else that's not me cause I'm not there, cause I chose to write an useless post on youtube... and that's perfectly ok!!! It's not because you CAN that you Will... there's a huge difference between things you can do and things you will do... so it is profitable yes, but that doesn't mean you will profit... it's not because there's a lot of money to be made in PLO that you will make... things don't work that way. That's what the so called "Grinders" get so wrong about this game... they play everyday like 10 tables for like 8 hours... the only thing they get for sure is rakeback... they have 2 things in mind: as they fear to miss out a good table they open the maximum number of them, and they put a big volume of hands in order to go through the variance... so they don't care if they are winning or losing as they're focused on ev only... so they play a ton of hands in order to beat the variance in the long term. They hate the idea of keep playing when they're up and stop when they're down... cause it's not an exact science... it requires "feeling"... no they hate that... they hate luck, they want to remove it from their game and play for their skills to pay off on the long term... what they don't understand is how long is the long run... they have a number in mind, something like 200k hands or 1kk hands... but it's not... there's no limit for how long a long term can be... you're not a slot machine that operates 24/7 for years non stop... you don't have the infinite bankroll that a casino has... you can't play 24/7... a casino has an infinite of stupid customers any time of the day and any day of the week... they can play for long run, cause they have all the time of the year to get their money back... we as a single player can't do the same thing... so that's why running good is so vital for players, we need results and ignoring the luck factor wont help our cause... and that's our fallacy: in chasing those results we kinda try to force something that we have absolutely no control to happen and by doing so we maximise our losses, we create unnecessary situations that wouldn't happen if weren't chasing results... so what's the take? Stop judging and classifying things as good or bad... profitable or not profitable... winning or losing... it's not about what things are... but how they will be... you can only know that if you let them happen to you... don't spoil them by forcing and chasing them!
Theres always a looser
Yeah but the bank roll you need... wow
@@rugbywhisperer-coachkane3038 50 buyin swings are the norm
That’s where I need to work on my game. When I’m 200bb deep I get scared and get bullied even at microstakes 😊
5:12 did you know that this guy did 20 years in a can?
Phil leotarde looking good after that tire head incident
Ha ha I totally missed the reference and spent five minutes googling to look it up 🙈🙈🙈
sheesh some of those people are playing so bad preflop
A9 87 is not so bad
That's meeeeeeeee!
THE WOLF WAS RIPPED OFF ON THE LAST ONE
When wolfs are fishes
He def got the HAART
Sometimes you gotta follow that feeling 😂
Leon in the 1st hand with basically pair of kings in hand, nothing on flop & calls raise and reraise on a 2 out draw and flukes the K on the turn...more arse than king kong
😂
Lol the wolf 😂 say sick when he got rubbish
Tony G Don key
man wth is he doing with his phone, that guy annoys me
Sickos
How come the 2 Pairs of aces and 2s didn’t win
You can only play two of ur cards🫡
@@loafofbread4157 I googols it after makes sense now. I play a lot of Texas Hold ‘‘em but never plo
i got the heart Bring on the Russians
Matt seems not to play a lot of Omaha. He had a mediocre hand and acted like a baby.