Animal Movie Debate: Fans Vs Haters | Animal Movie Face-Off Leaves Audience Divided | Honest Review
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2023
- While Ranbir Kapoor's 'Animal' has emerged as a major success, it hasn't escaped criticism. Some viewers are less than impressed with the storyline, taking issue with the film's depiction of extreme violence and bold content.
Presenting the Honest Review of the Animal movie criticism in Hindi by Shubham, Rrajesh and Zain Anwar. Watch the Animal movie review in Hindi.
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Arey yeh vaali battle nahi,
Zain vs RaShu karvao ek ring lagaake. Referee me Mujhe bula Lena. Pitne do teeno ko.
ye durdarshan wali news ka feel de raha tha debate bhi ho rahi hai par jhagda gali nahi ho Raha maja aaya
Saath aa jao Yaar ye dekh kar bohot maza aata hai i miss old mensxp
Bhai john wick ke waqt kisiko police ki yaad nahi aayi kya iss movie mein aayi
Most days : Shubham not letting anyone else speak.
Today : Shubham and Rajesh not letting Zain speak.
Exactly
You guys were not letting Zain put across his points in the way he wanted to. It was an unfair debate. Zain still won though.
Bullying Zain will not make you winners . This was not a discussion, this felt like Shubham and Rrajesh trying to convince Zain that ONLY their perspective is correct.
Yeah, so weird lol.
True
Zain was clear victor in this debate. Gangs of Wasseypur was a revenge film and Sardar Khan's father was his only family, it never intended to push a father son bond. Animal on the otherhand marketed itself as a movie that will dive deep into that bond but never did
Very valid point^
even the father son relationship explored in GOW between Ramadhir and JP was far better and detailed than Animal.
Shubham is one of those people who has the capability to win an argument with the "Nation wants to know" guy.
provided he comes to mensxp studio
Iske bahar nahi bol pate shubham bhai....
Fanboy moment ho jaata h 😂😂
Nahi bhai, ye inki sawa seri yahin par hai, celebrity ke interviews ke time inki ghigghi bandh jaati hai!!
But can he win against " kon jaat ho" guy
Zain is correct. There was no emotion and connect with audience. We as audience couldn't feel for the characters. Storytelling was bad... Also the villian part was used badly.
Then start watching quality movies,
Mera bhi mai audiance hu and its the best movie of this year mai connect hua mai audiance hu
Bhai tujhe acchi nahi lagi toh apni baat kar ...... We we mat kar 😵💫
@@Naman26449 Bhai mein apni aur Zain ki baat kar raha😋😝
@@grey5421 *I as a audience
Stopped watching Rajesh Shubhams reviews since Animal review, came here just as saw Zain in thumbnail and Zain was throughout logical while other two just were trying hard to justify illogical things. Frankly Animals music apart, it wasnt a great movie it was just good PR at work and Rajesh Shubham bhi bhavnao mai bhe gae... Zain as usual sane review ❤....
😂😂😂😂😂you are funny
Zain is right. These both reviewed film like its going be next cult.. Went for the movie and it turn to be shit movie..
Zain hands down won it dude . In the whole video shubham and rajesh didn't tell him speak much but whatever he spoke was just spot on . And i personally think shubham and rajesh are now overdoing with all their love for ranbir i mean if something is bad it should be called out.
They knew deep down Zain is giving logical arguments so they didn't let him speak
Zain is absolutely right there is only violence in the film there was no father son relationship in the film shown
Isse zyda violence south movies m hota bhai kya baat kar rha h aprichit m kitna violence tha yaad nhi
Agreed
Lol Bhai itna violence south me kabhi nahi dekha Maine max gravity less scenes only and moreover any mal had illogical violence @@raja-jl9os
Phir bhi movie dekhne me bahot maza aaya. Especially first half
exactly
Zain won this debate fair and square. Shubham and Rrajesh had to stoop down to Indian news channels' tactics of making so much noise that logic and valid thoughts get drowned in their bumbling bullshit.
If we apply logic in every movie, 90% of movies will not be made in India. Did you asked about physics and logics when Ram Charan jumped into crowd and started beating them lol. Shubham and Rajesh enjoyed the movie and they are chilling. The people who are getting offended are funny af. Chill karo, it's just selective outrage, the same people enjoyed watching Joker 2019
@@Hello-kh6bk Bold of you to assume I enjoyed RRR. Also, my problem lies with the storyline. Creative liberty till some extent is valid. You can't shield your poor skills by saying it's a movie so don't apply logic.
For example, in Harry Potter which is a purely fictional world, the makers have to establish some sort of rules as to what is possible and what is not. If suddenly Harry's wand starts talking won't you say that's absurd? even though it is a world where magic exists
@@v_srikanthfinally someone who understands.i know that our audience don’t like meaningfull movies & want masala films to relieve the stress.
But this doesn’t mean u can make this much violence movie with bad characters.that too,they glorified by putting sad music.i mean should i has to feel sad for him.
It would have been so good if she divorced him & made him realise that what he did wrong .but no..she again forgive him.
Zain is right bout the fact that the father-son relationship wasn’t established well ,there were not enough scenes about that
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
Dude the whole movie was about a Son getting attention from his father. If they had a good relationship then movie hi nhi banti bhai.
There was scene where Ranbir meet Anil in hospital and he don't know how to react in that situation has he never went through this situation before. They just stair at each other
@@thethreespikes9737underdeveloped != subtle
@@nuttbaked Nope Subtle. There was no development deliberately. Thats the whole friggin point.
@@thethreespikes9737 development doesn't have to be positive to make a point just saying
Truly said by Zain.... Father Son ka relation feel hi nai ho raha tha. Ranbir ki feelings hi connect nai ho rahi thi.... Bas kisi tarah Tod fod machani thi aur baap ka reason mil gaya.
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
Bhai Film fir se dekh dhang se. Zain ne bahut superficially analyse kiya hai film ko. Ek baar movie dekh. Or subtle details dekh. Sb smj aa jayega. Police wala arguement was stupid. Father son ka relationship feel nhi hua. Wohi toh point tha movie ka. His father was never there.
@@thethreespikes9737 Agreed bhai.... But Jo tune bola hai, Sara afterthought lagta hai... I should've felt Ranbir Kapoor's feelings in the theatre itself. Wo toh nai hua bhai...
@@sidsodani21 thats the magic bro. This movie is not in your face with emotions. Ye bahut subtle hai. Ye loud nhi hai apne emotions ko lekr. Bahut subtle hai. Ispr literally theories or character dissection kr skte hai log. Thats the beauty. Thing is film apko spoon feed nhi krti. Tabhi itna Subtlety dikhati hai. Ye ap pr trust krti hai. Ki you are intelligent enough to dissect alot of conflicts. Ye bus hint krti hai.
ranbir ko papa ka validation chahiye tha..aur inko zain ka!!
😂😂
Zain won the debate no doubt rajesh and subham just trying to put there point across by talking trash. PS rajesh got to speak but at what cost 😢😢
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
Zain won the debate. His arguments were logical and i agree that there were loopholes in the plot.
Agreed
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Bhak
Exactly
I'm with you Zain, the movie was okay but a lot of things didn't make any sense.
Good debate,this is the type of conversation that we need around such movies, by just labelling people as librandu if they hate animal and labelling people as mysoginisct if they love it , just don't make any sense
Zain won the arguments hands down. He comes across as the one who saw the movie with a complete open mind and he's very logically argued that the film is not at all what it was advertised to be..(father son relationship saga).. Vanga has very cleverly used that as a facade to showcase shameless senseless violence.. of course, the picturization is top notch..
Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
The college was owned by his father and she got bullied? That never happens.
@@harshitsinghai1395 Well it heppened. Thats why she was trying to contact her father. At the end of the day its fiction. She did not go in there with entitled mindset, you can say that. Or maybe they didn't know. I mean you can make alot of excuses for that.
zain is 100 percent right, Although animal is a good movie but there was lack of father son bonding shown properly, then later bobby deol character was not build enough to be connected
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
@@thethreespikes9737 again and for the last time! we are not talking about their relationship, we are talking about the building of animal out of Ranbir Kapoor, just one scene of father son relation was not shown when he was kid. You cannot connect emotionally to Ranbir when he is crying all the time for his dad when his dad's screen presence is almost zero, same treatment with bobby deol he should have atleast some emotional connect with the audience and trust me it didnt hurt much to the audience when he died, but director chose to play the bpraak song on background was also cringy. All in all movie is good action set a new dimension for bollywood, yet it was not upto the mark when story telling with intensity lacks completely. and I blame it all on the runtime of the movie, but second half was lethargic. 3/5 stars is fine for it but you cant give it 5/5 like gangs of wasseypur
@@amandeepofficial He was animal from the beginning. He just kept himself tamed. That was the whole point. Go watch the film. He literally brought a gun in college premise. He was impulsive. It was shown in very subtle way. He doesn't want you to connect to Ranbir's character. Thats why every ounce of sympathy was taken away from you. Even the Zoya plot served that. People like first half because he was shown as heroic in that. His toxic traits were presented in very protective way. You even justify him kiling his jija. But the second half is where the depth comes in where his protective traits itself becomes borderline abusive in his obsession. His character is constantly falling throughout the second half. The trajectory is shown downward. Its not his problem you people crave in your face stuff instead of subtle. He literally says in the end. Do you know why I love you so much. I dont even have answer for that. The issue is you want to romanticise the character, hence you want to build a sympathy narrative for him through his father. But director wanted to strip him from every sympathy. He succeeds. He is a guy who acts out of impulse rather than intellect despite being smart. Zain had pathetic arguements. He wanted loud display of it. But director wanted to subtly showcase it. He did an excellent job. There is a lot of detailing and unsaid things between the two. Its a deeply layered relationship.
@@amandeepofficial yes i do agree on the bobby deol part. He deserved more screentime. Thats my only gripe with the film.
@@amandeepofficial gangs of wasseypur is on different level. But I must say Animal was the freshest content in bollywood in while. The fact we can discuss about his characterisation of his character is in itself a Vanga magic. I mean how many movies can start discussions like that in mainstream films.
Zain is actually making logical points, also Zain is way more mature then
Rajesh is also somewhere good but Shubham is cutting everyone without even listening completely
To be honest I think what zain is saying is understandable. 2 log ki g maar li akele zain ne.
💪
What Zains says is Somehow very true. The story really had some loopholes or lacks in logic.
Agree sooo much with Zain! Violence aside the story is also not great where you don't connect with the main character's behaviour as they didn't spend that much time to develop it.
Cry more animal park is coming and we will make it biggest hit of Indian cinema 😅
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
I did connect. On what he was feeling.
@@yashfilms4571asi chutya film he bdhya lgti h bhai tumhe
The absence of Father-Son bonds can be traced back to the beginning of the cinema, where it is evident that the father failed to allocate time, even on his son's birthday. The narrative unfolds further with a sister scene, where the protagonist assumes the role of a guardian. However, despite his efforts, he is not rewarded with the desired praise and is subsequently sent to a boarding school. The 60th birthday reunion with Ranvijay from the USA aims to rebuild the strained relationship, only to face another separation orchestrated by the father, this time lasting for 8 years. Given this context, the director grapples with the challenge of exploring a father-son relationship that seems unidirectional, characterized by one-sided love.
It is exactly based on that. Even now every son can relate to this that they can count the heart to heart talk with their father. But that doesn't mean that they are connected less with the father. They can literally kill for it. That's exactly what represented.
You are still discussing on the film 20 days later, I think the director succeed
@@ankansenapati3600 It will discussed for a long time man.
The sole illogical or weak aspect I noticed in the entire film was Ranbir Kapoor's character's consistent lamentation about the absence of paternal affection in his life. Ironically, he did not spend even five minutes with his own son throughout the movie.
They did show that twice - once just after the fight between Ranbir rashmika, when kids intervene & Ranbir hugs his son to convince everything is fine. Second - in the climax, when the son comes running to hug him back.
Isse zaada dikhaane ki zaroorat nhi thi. Dikha dete to critics bolte "Apne baap se time maang raha aur khud jaake apne bete se hi chipka hua hai!"
I think k 8 saal usa mei usne har din apne bacche ko pyar kia hoga, unlike his dad who has never spent an entire day with him in his entire life.
I mean, thats the point of the film. He is an imperfect man. He is not a man to be admired.
@@anythingman1827 yeah I mean I liked the film. When I say like I mean I really loved the film. But I wish there were more scenes that shows ranbir kapoor and his son’s bond
There should be voting button here, one for Zain and one for Shubham-Rrajesh, whom audience agrees with 😂
Zain was logical throughout.
kuch bola hi nahi zain aur kaha se logical bro
that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
@@thethreespikes9737 Great Observation Man...U Nailed the observation. The Problem with Zain is he already make up his mind to bash animal at any cost. he did not try to mention technicalities of the movie. I really felt the movie was so strong in terms of story, build ups , characterization ,looks of the actor playing the role ,locations and many more things. the movie was meant for new world which we were craving to engrossed. zain really missed the trick here by not actually understanding the whole plot and missed analysis of small details. it can easily been depicted that zain dont used a brain while watching this movie so its tough for him to understand the detailing of this movie and keep focusing on pure movie 'mai police kaha hai'🤣🤣 .its indian version of business' and mafia movie not actually a father son love story
@@pratsprofession5692 i dont blame him. These guys are so use to spoonfeeding. They missed the subtlety in the film. And became dismissive about it. He was saying there are crude sex jokes on women. I mean he is a guy. Thats how mostly boys talk heppen especially if the boys are some kind of gang members. I mean what did he expect, them to crack jokes on some philosophical level or something. They literally comes from village. Ofcourse the humour will be crude. The complains are just too childish from Zain. I did not actually expect that from him. The film is very subtle. If looked closely, it has answered each and every question from police not being there to his father son relationship exploration, to everything. The only thing masala about this film was interval action block.
@@pratsprofession5692 exactly. I mean it was his hotel to start with. He disposed the body of his jija and those who were kild with him. As for those bodies in interval block. It was seen as an act of teror which again was in his own hotel. His father was literally shot. It was obviously seen as an act of self defence. He thinks rich guys can't hire private security with guns. I mean its just lazy reviewing. Even the action in college is owned by his father. And his father literally tellls him that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which also implies there influence. I mean would those incidents be hard for him to twist in his favour. Its just pathetic reveiwing. Film has literally given you subtle clues for you figure that out. But no you want that to be spoonfed into you.
Zain even I wanted Vijay and his dad to have a union type emotional scene where I could cry. It didn’t happen because Vanga wanted to show Vijay did not succeed for his actions. This thing clicked with huge amount of audience, which makes it a good movie.
Animal me Story sach me nahi thi.... Ek chote se plot ko bahut lamba kheecha gaya...
Zain is the brains 🧠 i love zain's perspective always
True
Bigg boss ka regular viewer aur KGF 2 ki tareef krne wale aadmi ke brain ki tareef krna is the most senseless shit you can do😂
@@rishabhdagur koi bhi insaan perfect nahi hota. Me Aaj bhi guilty pleasure me hollywood k shark, crocodile wali movies dekh leta hun. Zain inse to dhang ka hi review karta hai. Kuch movies me to disagreement hoga hi.
Oppenheimer is the best movie this year. Men xp aur Zain ka seperate review dekhna uska.
Zain's 🤡
Zain win debate easily
The simple fact of the matter is I cudnt relate with vijay's obsession with his father. Zain is right, alpha males abusing women for claps is nothing new...but a so-called alpha male cheating on someone who always had his back is a new low, then trying to justify the same for Papa ka Protection is just despicable.
It was despicable, he was an animal toh vaise hi dikhaya hai
It's so basic dude
He was an animal throughout
100% agree with Zain.Zain's observation was absolutely correct.
Zain : The winner.
I felt the same way watching Animal.
Totally unwanted scenes just to sound cool to 20-25 year chapri crowd...
Underwear soap scene
Sanitary pad dialogue
Tripti dimri angle
That sex talk with psychologist..
The Collaboration We Needed And They Delivered It.
My opinion after watching the full video - It was never a 10/10 not even 8/10 movie. It's a a good theatrical experience. The story could've been more intese rather than showing sexiest things. I'm agree that if Vanga didn't take the criticism seriously and the movie was around 3 hours it could've been one of the best cinematic experience for this year. Still it's pretty enjoyable to watch.
Arey bhai do mean sexist themes ? 😂😂
Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
address bata bhai, rassi leke aa raha hoon
this movie already was the best theatrical experience this year
Agli baar Zain double paise me bhi nhi collab karega 😂😂
Agreed with Zain all the way
I agree with Zain.
Zain is logical and explained his pov with facts
I agree with Zain that Vanga is a brilliant filmmaker, he knows how to make people connect and feel those emotions. The movie would've truly been a masterpiece had he focussed on making a good movie rather than a statement. So many scenes of Ranbir and Rashmika were so unnecessary and didn't add anything to the plot - the bra strap scene, church scene, hugging in the bra scene, argument scene with pad changing dialogue. They literally showed nothing except the fact that Ranbir's character is going crazy and his relationship with Rashmika is worsening but her relationship with Rashmika isn't the core part of the movie. Instead of those scenes more scenes father son bond, and bobby deol could've been put.
You think bra strap, church, and hugging in bra was not necessary because you didn’t get the details of story.
Bra strap - he was served and sign language, he already lost senses.. on top of that his wife added extra salt. He is frustrated hence he did so.. he started in playful way later intense, got a slap and smiled.
Church - if u notice he says, there is no redemption. He is an animal.
Hugging scene - he has grown fat and he appreciated his wife that she looks fab after 2 kids.. he is actually low he doesn’t show and tries to be strong. He emotionally weak at that point.
To understand the details you will have to understand what director wants to convey. There are several small things which subconsciously build the character. I agree that for a viewer, it would feel unnecessary but it is director’s movie and the screenplay has it.
Do watch all cast interviews, you will get more details
If cast interviews are important to understand the movie, then append the interviews to the movie in the theatre. A movie should be well isolated in itself.
Also, I understand why the director wrote the 3 scenes you had mentioned but they shouldn't have made precedence in the final edit over scenes with Anil and Bobby's backstory. Eg. They made a 3-4 minute scene showing him pleading the cousins to join him but there was just a voice-over of Bobby being related?
@@negativeefforts6798 I didn’t mean cast interviews are important. That I said if you want to know more.
In no movie you get to know all details. I said subconsciously character is build.
I watched it 3 times then I got to know many things and when I watched interviews I got a lot more.
What you think is necessary or not is subjective. Movies are subjective.
Overall movie was engaging.. no movie is perfect. It has flaws and will have director’s bias. To judge the entire movie on few areas is not fair.
Don't call it a debate if you don't even try to understand and beleive what the other person is trying to say. I am disappointed by shubham gaur. The movie's story was weak. It had the capability of becoming a masterpiece, if the cinematic brilliance would match with a better emotional story.
Bang on Zain ! This is called analysis , giving logical arguments and backing them with facts
TEAM ZAIN ✌✌
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Right
Zain made some very good points....he is very sensible and his inclusion makes the episode 10× funnier 😂
100% agree with each point of Zain
I completely agree with Zain 💯
Zain Bhai Has Totally Logical points, those cannot be denied.
As Acharya Prashant said animal doesn't have a story, its just compilation of some scenes providing shock values, father son relation is just kept as base to force those scenes in between.
Although I liked Animal, and enjoyed it stull I feel Zain won the debate...😂
I agree with Zain... this movie only has some style, and absolutely no substance...!! i have no problems with twisted characters and their flawed moral compass or whatever... we have seen such characters umpteen number of times... even SRKs character in Darr was super flawed and violent ... yet no body discredited the film ...!!! coz the screenplay was tight... here... there are so many unanswered questions... only bloodshed with no emotions...!! yeh father son ki movie nhi hai... yeh bekaar ki violence dikhaane waali movie hai... mujhe violence se koi problem nhi as long as story strong ho... inhone toh villain ka koi character development nhi kiya... bobby could have been an iconic villain... but use 2 scene deke khatam kiya... so problem is with story n film making... rest moral shoral sab apni jagah hain... ramayan mein bhi ravan hai but yeh aapke upar hai ki aap us se seekh lo ya ram ji se seekh lo... but atleast story tight honi chahiye... wanga missed an opportunity of mak8ng a classic cult movie.... he just made a super hit movie.
. But artistically, this movie is severely lacking on so many fronts....!!!
aptly said no substance and some style.....what was good was the background music and songs.....having different composers brought a very good variety to the music.......there was no depth in the story/plot though......no great backstory of all the revenge and bloodshed......it looks like director just wanted to make a violent action film and weaved a shallow story around it.......the whole plot of Tripti Dimri was unnecessary.....looks like t-series gave a melodious song "pehle bhi main" to the director and he created this plot to use that song and include a sex scene to sell his movie to young immature audience......everything seemed forced and shallow and the movie and the characters lacked depth
@@mishuccet1tripti plot was very necessary to strip ranvijay of any sympathy whatsoever , it was the final nail in the coffin.....what r you even saying...bcz of that his wife left him......how you think it's unnecessary .....yes it's shabbily done n physicality was shown cz it was just that physical .....
Zain won!!! We want more of such debates, especially on KGF2
Zain is very sensible person ..... He never felt bad when his arguments were taken down ..... He takes all supportinglly ... And Rajesh comic timing is great and shubham also a funny person🎉🎉
Zain had a very pathetic, superficial and dismissive take on film. that was the whole point. Its subtle. He was never there in his life. He is product of child abuse and negligence . Mostly Negligence. Thats what lead it to his desperation or obsession. On the other hand neither did he got validation from his father. Zain do not want the lead to have an opinion different from his father which is very pathetic. He is shown since childhood to be the smartest person. He knew what needed to be done unlike father who literally kept a snake closer to his chest. So tell me why would he listen to his father. His sister was getting ragged while his father was absent. Why would he listen to his father. Thats the whole point of the film. He wanted his father to listen to him. Priorities him over everyone else which his father never did. Just watch the film. Zain's arguement was very pathetic. The relationship is deliberately shown very cold and awkward for a reason. Its very subtle instead of in your face. Watch the movie again. Nope he didn't. His take on the movie was very superficial and dismissive. Like why police wasn't there. Because it was his hotel in the first place. Second he disposed the body of his Jija. Its implied time and again. He comes from a rich family . Father literally pointing out that if it wasn't for him he would be in jail which points out to their influence. Even the college was owned by his father where his sister went. So they did not show police. But it was established that narrative was set for them. That interval block itself is seen as an act of self defence. So no there was no plothole. But one thing that you need to understand its a character driven film not story driven. Story is in service of character, not the other way around.. not just that, even his bond with his father is purely based on the principal of biological. He have a certain image of great father which his father do not fit into. But he desperately wants to push him into that mold. This movie has a lot of detailing. Sadly Zain just made superficial remarks without paying attention to alot of details
Zain is logical here....
I agree with Zain
Zain was far more sensible than the other guys that were bullying him
Shubham actually behaving like school kid who doesn’t have any sense but keep on arguing…
Kuch bhi bolo..story acchhi nahi hai😂 I also had same issues with the story as Zain..bohot saari jagah pe logical hi nhi tha😂
for me Zain played it really well and also won...... 👏👏👏..... anyway it was 2 Vs 1 .... questions being fired from both directions and Zain was not even allowed sometimes to answer before next question... I hope he makes it big one day which is inevitable. 100M for Zain and also MensXP . Love you all Guys... Shubham Rajesh Zain!!!
Pehle Shubham Rajesh ko nhi bolne deta tha, ab Shubham or Rajesh mil k Zain ko nhi bolne de rhe 😂
TBH without Zain there is a fun missing and we want him back but with you two as well.
Ab to theatres se v utar gyi yaar. It's time to move on guys.
Good to see zain back. This collab is awesome. Please continue
Disagree with Zain. There were loopholes in story but not the ones Zain is speaking about
Bhai Bond kabhi bana hi nahi ,
That's the story...
Why they put the plot that, pehle bond tha phir kese tuta... Whyyyyyyyy????
Zain is failed to understand the plot, plot is that child was expecting validation and that never happened....
Zain ko personally ek story pasand he, wo expect kar rha tha, but that was not the director's plot😂😂😂😂
Bond bhale hi na ho pehle se. Par wo to dikhana chaiye tha k distance kaise badta chala gaya. 3 ghante k movie me 2-4 conversation bhi nahi dikhaye gaye. Cool aur violent scene soche aur fir unko justify karne k liye Superficial level par father-son angle daal diya.
Yes agreed 💯👍
@@screensafari17 watch John wick buddy
There is almost no scene that shows bond of Dog and John wick, since he's doing violence since 4 series....
2-3 shorts are enough that whÿ one doing violence...
@@chiraglakhani5385 mujhe action thrillers me sirf Jason Bourne k original trilogy pasand hai.
John wick ka first part to aur bhi gazab hai. Villain itni hype banata hai John wick k name k..aur jab usse yeh log pakad lete hain to usko shoot karne k jagah...faltu k bakwaas karta hai aur apne aadmiyo k hawale kar jata hai. Arey bhai tereko pata hai k itna dangerous hai to kam se kam uske upar Jane ka wait karle ya khud usse upar pahuncha de..
Exactly....he even says I myself don't know why I love you so much papa
Zain is sensible, the other two are blind Ranbir fans. Ranbir tatti bhi karega toh chocolate bolke kha lenge..😂
Yehi same movie agar Prabhas ne banayi hoti toh Rrajesh bhi feminism aur excessive violence pe ek ghante ka lecture de deta, woh bhi english mn.,
there were 2 3 characters that are still not caught and a focus was given on them
1. driver that was driving the car of body double
2. there was a girl which was focused during the scene when Bobby Deol started kissing his third wife other than hi two wives
Zain won it.😮
Shubham and Rajesh yhi justification ko criticism me badal dete if it was a Prabhas movie. Hypocrisy ki bhi seema hoti hai
Shubham is the kinda guy jiske pass itna tagde real life analogies hain jinhe vo use kar ke galat chijen bhi sahi proove kar deta hai 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sandeep promoted that movie as the most violent movie not on daddy issues. If you are saying they stretched a simple plot then that goes to every action movie take example of pf john wick
Tell me 1 thing. How many times did Ranbir show his Animal streak? Just twice. While killing his brother in law and then in that hotel scene where he killed 200-300 folks. Can just 2 instance establish him being an animal. This shows how little Vanga cared about the story. The hotel scene could have been easily divided into 3 different instances which could have easily established his character more. For me he looked more like a short tempered casanova more than Animal. Bobby although looked more like an Animal than him.
kuch bhi , bhai aap 5 saal ke bache ko dimag leke dekhte ho kya movie , dailgoues mein kaan bandh the kya , subtelty naam ki chiz hoti hai , harr chiz in the face chahiya toh cartoon dekho bhai
@@marcosurvivalist7266 Mai agar 5 saal ke bacche ka dimag leke dekhta to tumhare jaise comments likhta. Tumko to Animal shayad Oscar wining movie lag rahi hogi? Anyways, you are entitled to your POV as I'm of mine. Acche movies dekha karo to aise ghatiya movies ke loop holes dikhenge jo ke intne jyada hai ke pure movie of ghatiya bana deti hai. Just for fun explain like am 5, what was the context of the story Ranbir Kapoor narates at the start of the movie, does it has anything to do with the story line? or just a punt at the critics like the last scene? My 5 year old immature brain couldn't make out, let's see if you could enlighten me.
Zain ki baate to bilkul sahi hai yrr 🎉
Yaar, Shubham aur Rrajesh, agar bolne dena hi nahi phir mat bulao Zain ko ya kisi aur ko bhi. Ye debate kam Arnab ka copy lah rha tha. Kabhi saamne wale ko bolne bhi diya karo yaaaaar!!
Pure nostalgia moment... Good to see you Zain Bhai ❤
Father-Son bond ke naam pe 14 year old edgelord movie bna di, Udaan showed a toxic Father-Son bond and did it perfectly. Vanga ki Animal aisi lgri thi ki Andrew Tate ki 10 video dekhne ke bad bnayi ho.
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Who knows may be that’s what was his motivation.. that time andrew was a hit on internet when shooting going on.
Andhbhakt ko samjana mushkil hi nahi namumkin hai 😂😂
Shubam and rajesh, you guys are great but it was so frustrating how you didnt let Zain speak ffs man
Rankir kapoor was phenomenal in Animal, yes. But the story was nowhere near perfect. Didnt understand what it was... Father son? Love? Extramarital affair? Idk
Yahi bs salman bhai ya tiger Shroff hote to itne gaali bakte ki 200 logo akele ne maar diye wagera wagera, aur raveena Kapoor ke baand mai ghusne to tyaar hai, Zain has provided genuine points they are just want state there own useless pov like kids , ashamed to be honest review fans when there is no honestly 🌚🌚🌚
Ig Ranbir was constantly trying to seek his father's validation which he ofc was not giving. This frustation might have led to Ranbir's anger issues. People who have anger issues not always have a big history related to it too. It's just who they are. Now when his father got struck by a bullet, he has anger issues obv plus all the resources to cause harm to the other person, which is why he did all that stuff.
toh fir wahi baat hai na, you can understand the actions of a special case but you cannot relate to him. Movie ka plot just felt fictional and unnecessary. Dekho aur bhool jaao, relate karne ki koshish mat karo. XD
Simple feedback - I don't like Animal but I like Sam Bahadur and went to Theatre to watch this. I agreed with Zain - Animal is lack of emotions just violence and some of them without no reasons at all.
Good to see Zain back at the 'The Table' and his signature Table Tap. Feels nostalgic way back to the days of 2019 Honest Reviews.
I agree with zain. The love between father and son. Was not explored.
Zain has better arguments.
5:16 agreed zain is right about the focus of film
I think all of you didn't understand the movie. There is no reason to love your father. He literally tells you in between the movie. 🤦🏻♂️
That is why he didn't show any scenes to show the bond. A boy who just likes his father is shown in the beginning. There is no particular reason why he likes his father.
Also Zain you don't question John Wick why there are no police in the movie but we question Indian movies who slightly differ from our idealogy.
Shubham Rajesh itne passion se defend kar rahe hai jaise Ranbir ne commission cut promise kiya ho..
What I feel is that it's not a father-son bond film. This movie is basically of a character who is flawed from his childhood and love his family a lot. He was same passionate about his sister, wife and everyone around him. He feels the natural urge to defend them. And for this he can go to whatever extent. There are scenes with father-son just to show how he became this flawed. It's a pure cinema and just a fictional story all the points which Zain put is something I feel didn't clicked me during that three hours of my life. If someone wants to be this subjective about a film then he/she can cherry-pick comments even in 3 idiots. Overall the movie is good, story is good, acting is what makes the movie next level and Ranbir did that part like a wow.
Shubham and Rajesh is correct.... Bhai Zain ko gangs of wasseypur mai baap beta ka rista dikh gya lekin animal mai inhe pura details chaiye... Zain ke hisab se to ye jata to ye nhi hona chahiye itna perfection hota to Ranbir Kapoor animal hi kaise Banta ....
For 90% of the viewers, deeply understanding a movie is not the reason they go to theater. Only critics do it and average movie goer don’t give a damn !!
Arey bhai vanga ne shocking scene aur dialogue soche jo cool lagenge. Aur fir unko justify karne k liye superficial level par father-son emotional angle daal diya...
Dunki aur salaar k liye bhi same discussion chahiye..... Because Zain bhai opinion is too different from shubham and Rajesh bhai
It was a revenge movie from vanga against the kabir sigh criticism. Thats it. The elements which were criticized in kabir singh, vanga amplified it in Animal.
One of the best discussions and logical explanations of Animal movie I have seen ever on UA-cam ...Kudos to the trio and I agree with Shubam and Rajesh ,Many people have misinterpreted the movie...The movie is entertaining, and the cinematic experience was worth my money...I also consider criticism on the movie was unnecessary... Loved the discussion ❤❤❤❤
Hatts to Zain bhai for having a big heart and coming to do a cameo. Thanks to that these guys will get sone views. Yeh Shubham cheap and pagal hai. Isse sensibility expect May karo. Just ask them to see your review of the film.
Even if there were some illogical scenes it is called cinematic liberty. It is almost impossible to make everything look flawless in mass fictional films else it would have been a biography.If one enjoyed in theatre,all the emotions were evoked,which the filmmaker wanted to then it is a big win for the film.Most of them criticizing the film will be booking animal park ticket whenever it arrives😂
I am with zain.
Interval tak movie peak.kar gayi thi.
Wo hotel waale action scene ko flashbacks ke through do mein split karke climax ke paas pahuchana tha.
Why isn’t anyone pointing out how irrational and psychotic was the lady to leave her fiancé for an unhinged stranger after one conversation 🤦🏻♀️ Ranbir’s erratic behavior was linked to his relationship with his father but why was the lady shown so desperate to bring shame to her entire family! Another ridiculous point is how movie does nothing to explore the influence going to a boarding school had on the character!
Father son relation is mainly defined by son having respect for his father. Where tf was respect? When Ranbir misbehaves with Anil Kapoor in the birthday party night, he quips back that "itna bada hogaya hoon phir bhi mara mujhe?". And later he is behaving like a maniac by creating body doubles, making the mansion like a gangster's den.
Shubham you talk about GOW, it is the story of illiterate goons trying to be strongmen in the garb of revenge. But Animal has all the characters well educated but still not being able to understand how to behave in a civilized manner. I derive that this movie is about a man with all the civilized and educated environment gives into his animalistic nature to kill or be killed. But to say it was father son bond is stupid. There was no real bond, just a man losing all his human sensibility and becoming an animal