my wife and i went to test a Giulia over a year ago....we started the car. drove out the lot and i turned to her and said " you will have to make the decision on this because I am already sold . Luckily for me she agreed with me . And no matter the issue ,whenever i start the car and drive its the best car to won and drive. Nothing really compares to it . And space wise had five adults in car driving from White rock to Vancouver and not one complaint. Just love this car!
Giulia Veloce owner (280hp) here from 2017. The quality and reliability are great in this car. Worth every penny. The advantage of this car is the dynamic characteristics.
I own a 2018 Stelvio 2.0 litre, 1st year it came out. Ya know when Zach says not to buy a car in its first year of existence? Well, he's right! I had electric gremlins for the first year, Ugh! (which were eventually fixed with an updated CPU) BUT....I have over 92K miles on it and there are ZERO creaks or rattles. The car is built very well. And it drives...let's just say it feeds my soul. Keep up the great work!
I am on my second QV 2023 in Montreal green. I have owned a QV in 2017 when the car just came out and also had a Stelvio 2.0 for almost 4 years and put 50K miles on it. Never had any issue. The only issue I ever noticed was the "service throttle" which is a glitch and shows up and disappears on its own. Nothing needs to be done for it. It's the most amazing drivers car and the driving dynamics and steering response is simply another level.
I currently have a 2021 Stelvio QV instead, which is not far behind from Gulia QV IMO. Reliability on its electrical isn’t the best, which caused a few visits were made to the dealership to address the issues. Reliability Mechanically been great, which I have not experienced any issues. Driving this amazing vehicle makes you feel excited behind the wheel every single time. The best SUV which I had even driven. Gulia QV definitely be another level!
I picked up a 2024 Giulia QV “Carbonio Edition” in Rosso GTA. Red leather interior, carbon fiber roof, carbon fiber grille insert, mirror caps and spoiler. Best driving car I’ve ever had and driven. Going to keep it forever. Anyone prioritizing driving engagement should be looking at the Alfa over the M3, RS 5 and C63. The only car that comes close is the CT4 Blackwing.
Alas, the "Carbonio Edition" is just a final marketing pack for the US to make buyers pay a premium. Even the leather inside has been downgraded from the original Nappa leather and alcantara trim, to the 4-cylinders' lower-grade full leather trim.
@@AP-cc1uw dude, come on. The preceding Quadrifoglio 100° Anniversario and those with Sparco seats still have the original Nappa leather and Alcantara. You got sold Veloce/Ti red seats with the lower grade leather. The Carbonio Edition is a joke, unnumbered and with carbon grille and mirror caps you can buy as accessories anytime. Nothing special at all, but at a higher price 😂
@@nessuno5403 the majority of “normal” QVs have the same leather seats in black. I didn’t pay any more for the Carbonio than I would have a normal QV with exposed CF roof. The 100th Anniversary and Super Sport Editions are both more than mine.
@@AP-cc1uw the Carbonio in the US and Canada were sold at a higher price on the pretence they are limited editions (when all they have is just a few extra carbon bits, recycle gold calipers and lower grade red leather interior). Press releases and articles confirm it.
My QV is nearly 8 years old and still looks amazing next to its new modern competition. I prefer the analog gauges over the new digital dash though. Overall it’s a very special car to drive and own.
Hope you drive one with the digit dials. You may be amazed at how good the 4 different graphics are (but it sux that the Quadrifoglio badge is digital only)
I have a 2017 Giulia TI Q4 with the performance pkg adaptive damper 19 inch wheels etc. 87000 miles . Absolutely love love love the Giulia. Sexiest car out there and although I have had a few issues, I would buy it again. The biggest downside is the insurance, which is almost twice the other vehicles I have owned. Insurance company rank Alfa's with incredibly high part replacement costs.. so drives up insurance... Ive check everywhere and they are more than I pay now. In the end...... still worth it every time I drive it.
I owned a Giulia Quad for 4 years....loved, loved, loved the car and never had any issues with it....regretted selling it 2 seconds after i walked out the showroom....the pain has been too much to bare all these years, so when i heard they were ending production i had to, just had to get another...it's just the best looking, handling and fun car you can drive....i will never, ever sell this.....who cares about the interior...it's functional but you never buy an Alfa for interior you buy it for the drive and by god what a drive it is !!!
The Giulia Quadrifoglio is such a magnificent car, but it's a tough sell in the current market, and especially the Canadian market. High performance sports sedans are already a tough sell, let alone a rear wheel drive one in our climate and not so well paved roads in eastern Canada. It's really sad because the Giulia Quadrifoglio IMO has the most soul out of the current European offerings (RS5, M3, C63).
I wish we could make the point that literally none of the competitors are going to be any more reliable than the Giulia. At least not the Caddy, BMW benz or Audi that you mention. The IS of course will be. The real issue with this car is the support network... Do you have a dealership or mechanic that can work on it? If so then absolutely buy this car! I have had 2 (2.0s) and they have both been great.
Part of reliability is available of parts and down time (not just the failure point). I have a 2024 M3 an have had two Audi RS5's and all have been "reliable" - Chalk it up to minor issues being resolved in a quick visit to the dealer vs the QV where it may sit at a dealership for weeks waiting on parts for a minor repair. As much as I like the QV, it's a big part of the reason I didn't spring for one (that and the terrible infotainment).
@chrisburry8147 Many people have had zero issues with their QVs and 2.0t Alfas. If you are going to try and represent a BMW as reliable then your just a dishonest actor. I am absolutely NOT try to say Alfas should be considered reliable. My point is all you hear on the internet is about how you shouldn't get an Alfa because reliability get a BMW instead.. Thats hilarious. All cars have problems. Toyota just recalled 102k cars to replace their defective engines. The unreliability talking point against Alfa Romeo is all hype. As I stated, if you have a dealer or mechanic close enough to you and this is the car you want then you should absolutely buy one and enjoy it. It will break. So will the Cadillac and BMW and any European counterpart.
@@ryanm.3681 first off I did put "reliable" in quotes for a reason. None of these brands are known for their impeccable reliability. That being said, all you have to do is take a look at JD Power, Consumer Reports, etc to see that BMW is definitely scoring higher than Alfa (take that however you want). I've had my M3 and several RS5s for many years with no issues (and previous Audi's and BMWs as well). My point was that not having availability of parts or dealership service networks impacts reliability as well...sure you can go to indy shops but part availability is still an issue.
@@chrisburry8147 BMW and Mercedes are known for their impeccable reliability, that is why they're one of the most popular fleet cars in the world. I live in Italy and they use Alfas instead, unlike rest of Europe police using BMWs
Misano Blue Stelvio Quadrifoglio owner here in the UK - a rare car here (less than 600 on the roads), and a superb car to drive - stylish, fast, not as common as BMW's, Merc's. Audi's etc. Always a smile on the face (just ignore the fuel economy!) - it was bought for the smiles per miles, not the miles per gallon 👍👍
Before you pull the trigger, see if they have any parts in the part's department.That's a chronic problem keeping these cars on the road.If you must have one , you must lease
Its such a beautiful car 😍 The exhaust note....'butta' I've owned a number of BMWs... my E46 Touring is parked out front. Good luck prying someone out of the drivers seat of an M3. If you're having to choose between Alfa and BMW...you're doing okay 🤨
I own a giulia q4 and I bought it with an extended warranty (just in case) ... I have never had a ln issue with the reliability of my car. It is beautiful to look at (inside out) and always fun to drive. I agree that though the infotainment system has everything I need, it looks outdated and I am disappointed that over the years, the very modest updates made to it has not made it comparable to lesser enviable brands.
Also wanted to add. I’ve had a 2019 for six years and 40,000 miles. Not a single issue. The maintenance is very expensive. For example, every 30,000 miles it’s a $2000 serpentine belt and with the other stuff it’s about a $3000 service. Oil filters are $100. But it’s worth it.
I sold them and Fiats for a while when Alfa recently returned to Canada. We had issues with pretty much every vehicle that was sold. Owners were initially enthusiastic, but that soon turned into buyer's remorse. Service issues due to poor build quality and lack of parts availability were the biggest issues. That entertainment system was not top quality when the car was released. Even worse is the hit these owners will have to take at trade in time. If you really want an Alfa, buy a 2-3 year old one from the original owner, after they have been stunned by the lowball offer from the dealers at trade in time.
I have a 2019. Mark my words. These will be collectors items very soon and will appreciate value in 5 to 10 years much like an e39 m5. They will be sought after
I have a trofo white quadrifoglio in the uk .I will never sell my pride and joy. I also have a alfa brera. My 17th alfa along with another load of makes .nothing compares to an alfa built in soul and passion.
I owned one 2.0T for 3 years and nothing had happened to me. The only gripe I had was, in area I live, there is no dedicated service center for this. You send your car for service to the same shop as the Fiat, Jeep, Dodge and Crysler. Where I see the same guy who service a fiat for $90 oil change, but it cost me $300 to do the same job.. I was debating about keeping one of our car (outback or Guila) at the end of the lease and get a new one. We ended up returning this due to a few factors: the upkeeping cost will likely and high due to parts and service down the road, No matter how good the Guilia was, you can't beat an outback on reliability.
I heard on the 2020 the steering is not as sharp as it used to be. But man does it look good in blue. If I had money, this would be a no-brainer. ❤️🍀😎👍👍
Comments like yours are useless. The best model of this Giulia is the 2020 GTA with the revised steering geometry. Also, these 2023 models are the best dynamically thanks to revised rear suspension and mechanical LSD. Don't comment if it's just based on hearsay.
That’s my favorite car I never bought😁 Love the drive, and styling but the trade offs were a bit too much for me. I would consider getting one at the bottom of that depreciation curve.
I considered it, the reliability isn't terrible. The issue seems to be getting parts in North America, a minor problem can take weeks to months to fix.
I chose the manual blackwing over this a couple years ago. I remember this car was on sale just before the pandemic with a 30k discount. Maybe you could do a manual blackwing review on my car.
Quadrifoglio owner for over 5 years now. First as a daily driver but now just a roadtrip toy. Important is to change the original tyres if you live in a cold climate. Also the original battery should be replaced before it suddenly go's dead without a real warning. for now the only 'defect' i had was a leaking shock absorber after driving in a deep put whole and i had to change the front splitter because after a few years of slowly scrapping it at speed bumps they crack on the rear of the spoiler because the carbon is getting to thin. Still a happy owner won't be selling for many years to come.
Probably one of the best drivers car that never sold….Alfa reputation just killed a fantastic car….i am a driver and I fell into this reputation of bad reliability…. I drive Lexus cars , 2 cars. ES350 & RC350FSport AWD, because I am a reliability freak lol !! That car looks simply awesome despite being 10 yrs old…. You know if you want to get more reliability , when you buy the car change for a quality battery and most of Alfa’s problem will go away….check the spark plugs too…. I have to buy one before it goes boring electric !!!! Oh and who cares about the infotainment system, it’s A DRIVERS CAR…. you should see my Lexus infotainment system , it’s sooooo old 🤣, it’s so old but it works and does not break down …. Love you guys great videos !!
As an early adopter (custom ordered mine in 2017) my car has been amazing. Electric Alfas....NO WAY....Imperato is going to kill the marque. This NEVER would have happened if the late great Sergio Marchionne had not passed away. I will never sell my Giulia Quad....never.
Love your reviews but Andrea at 12:20 EPIC FAIL....These Alfas have proved to be more than reliable and far more reliable than BMW, Merc or Audi....Initially (and they should be EMBARRASSED), they supplied the motoring press with press cars that were not properly software updated and prepped and I believe it was MT had stall and Check Engine issues...that was Alfa's mistake....My custom ordered 2017 Giulia Quad now has 40100 miles and has been flawless. My BMW M3 suffered from subframe cracks and my M5 had rod bearing failures, so there you go....Please check Alfa's reliability ratings in polls from OWNERS and you'll find they score VERY HIGH !!! Only Love....James
got a 2019 Alfa Stelvio Quad, just pass 100k miles, and seldom had any issues except tires. Service not as expensive as another premium brand. It's my dream car and the only one. The only downside is the infotainment system and i have to admit it's the "worst" i have had
The Giulia is the best feeling, funnest to drive sedan ever. Driving it is pure joy. But the quality/reliability just makes it a no-starter. You'd have to be crazy. I love test driving them, but I've never had a test drive where there weren't rattles, things that didn't work, or repairs that were clearly needed. Pity, if it were reliable, it would be outstanding.
What a beautiful sporty powerful car that for the price is a great value and with that engine sound who needs a stereo! Great review as always and one more thing, exclusivity just add more sex appeal!
I had Giulia Veloce 210hp since 2017 (diesel), in 4y no any single issue, switched to bmw g20 340ix (nice car, nice power, but steering wheel feeling is awful in comparison with Giulia, any Giulia). In short, I did order new Giulia Quadrifoglio (Montreal green), expecting delivery Sep/Oct 2024. Coming back to Alfa Romeo, from BMW. In Europe this car is coming with 520hp. Major benefit over previous version is lsd differential (TV wasn’t the best solution). Very the same diff you can find in GTA and GTAm models. Pros: drivers car capable for daily, like in my case, will be major daily car. Cons (only two for me): 1. Sport exhaust you can open only and only in Race mode, when also traction is off (stupid, since this was the reason lots of broken Giulia Quadrifoglio’s). Why Dynamic mode (while TC is ON) doesn’t support this or simply on/off button like in Porsche? 2. Missing wireless connectivity for AutoConnect, useful for daily car. Reliability will not comment, owned 9 different Alfa’s (even FiatAlfa’s with fwd) and never an issue. Recipe, change engine oil no longer than 15.000km (despite factory recommendations) or once per year (what comes first). Don’t push engine until oil is not at the working temperature. And if you push turbo engine car, give him a time to cool down, don’t just switch off engine. Simple rules referring all cars. Petrolheads will understand 😊👍
@@omnicognatesnr5947 well it’s RWD and it can break traction pretty easily, even in Dynamic mode, never mind Race. If you do have good traction (when it’s warm out and the tires have some heat) you’re breaking the law in around 4 seconds from a standstill under full throttle. That’s assuming you’re on a country road and the speed limit is 80km/h so you can get to 100 without a ticket.
@@omnicognatesnr5947 roads in Canada have speed limits lol and we don't have an autobahn. Those cars perform best when driving above 100 KMH. But this is also a FIAT car so it's made with junky parts.
Love the QV but I'll enjoy my '24 M3 Competition xDrive (👍🏻 in Canada) knowing that part and service available are a huge part of owners satisfaction. Not to mention traction in the winter.
why I opted for the Stelvio QV in 2022, as my daily driver in Canada....soul, power, and traction. Parts and service have been stellar in the Toronto area and no issues. (The M3 is a great choice too)
@@vincefava7929 I'm in Toronto as well but just didn't want to deal with any delays IF I did have service issues. I would have went for the Stelvio but I already have an SUV (Audi Q7). The M3 seemed like the good choice for me, but all these cars are pretty awesome (I had two Audi RS5's previously and everyone knocks them...probably people who haven't driven one).
@@xorbitman I have a Quad and it's been completely reliable. They forgot to mention the entire car was designed by ex Ferrari Engineers, and essentially has a Ferrari Engine.
8:20 not a fan of the font used for the tach and speedo. I don't like how the numbers rotate either. The numbers should all be on a horizontal plane so they're consistently easy to read at a glance.
This car beats the BMW M3 in terms of feel and rarity. Too many BMW M cars on the road and you risk getting car jacked or stolen. M3 doesn't feel as racey. It is too neutered of feel. It's darn fast but you don't feel much of it. Too insulated. This car is less insulated and the rear feels like it's gonna move but very planted and the car has a more unique tone than all those farty BMW mufflers.
I totally agree with you on how much feel you get in the QV compared to the M3 which felt so muted in comparison when i test drove one after owning my 19Qv which i unfortunately had to let go after a constant oil leak on the timing chain cover. It was such a hard car to let go of. I've now got a c63s coupe which sounds amazing but definitely miss the QV at times.
I’m fortunate enough to live across the street from a Maserati/alfa Romeo dealership in Ottawa. I see them everyday but to me there’s no wow factor about them. I’ve always thought of alfa Romeo as having way over priced vehicles. My advice buy a bmw m3 competition xdrive instead On a side note that same dealership has a couple of Maserati mc20’s in there Don’t even get me started on those 😂 Do yourselves a favour Get a Lamborghini Huracan technica instead
Been driving a QV since 2019, never had any issue. Scheduled maintenance, fuel, oil, tires, thats it. Have also been looking at its competition („the world has moved on since 2019!“) to see if there is any point in replacing it. And there is the issue: You cannot really replace it. M3 is a great piece of engineering but ugly as sin and far less charismatic, same goes for the AMG which on top of it is a few 100kgs heavier. The only thing that compares really in my book is the Ferrari FF.
Maybe I missed it, but you should mention it was designed by a bunch of ex Ferrari Engineers, and has what is essentially a Ferrari derived engine... for those that know...hands down beats the M3 in every possible way except (recently) performance numbers.
@@chrisburry8147 you say “these cars”. I guess I don’t look at them as a group, I value the overall “feel”. It feels much more special. If you’re ticking boxes you could nitpick the dated interior or some reliability aspects. Overall though, it’s a living legend.
@@lightenergyfractoid5675 to each their own. I value the entire experience, which is why I went with the M3 (after owning 2 RS5's). Not to mention that unfortunately the RWD nature of the QV doesn't work for me in our Canadian climate even though I have an Audi Q7 as well.
@@chrisburry8147the Alfa still outperforms the M3 in RWD form. Power output is the same as the M3 comp. Only the xdrive is faster. But I drove a few M3s and was completely bored. If driving engagement is the priority the Alfa is where it’s at. I also don’t understand why people think they need AWD for a performance car. With good winters the Giulia is totally fine. It’ll punish you any time of year if you drive like a boy racer, but that’s the point. It’s a real driver’s car, not a video game.
@@AP-cc1uw the RWD is faster than the QV. Plenty of comparisons online. Besides mine is AWD and will beat the QV even if I put it in RWD mode (the nice thing about the G80 M3).
I own a 1988 AR Milano Verde, it has the green 4 leaf clover on it. Great drivers car but sketchy reliability. If the Guila QV had the Manual trans it would likely be in my driveway. Otherwise I really like my (blue) 2017 BMW M240i MT, my 2023 Camaro SS MT convertible and my 2004 (Holden) GTO MT
15:07 The brake lights doubling as the turn signals are unacceptable. The brakes and turn signals are supposed to be separate lights and turn signals are amber, period. Why do all the Euro brands completely ruin the taillights on USDM vehicles?
2022 Stelvio owner here. Love my car and have no desire to drive anything else. 46,000km with no issues. Truly is a special vehicle like no other.
my wife and i went to test a Giulia over a year ago....we started the car. drove out the lot and i turned to her and said " you will have to make the decision on this because I am already sold . Luckily for me she agreed with me . And no matter the issue ,whenever i start the car and drive its the best car to won and drive. Nothing really compares to it . And space wise had five adults in car driving from White rock to Vancouver and not one complaint. Just love this car!
I drove the Gulia, not own it and I loved it!!! The acceleration, the driving all is perfect!!
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Giulia Veloce owner (280hp) here from 2017. The quality and reliability are great in this car. Worth every penny. The advantage of this car is the dynamic characteristics.
I'm a happy owner for 5 years now. This car will stay with me because I'll never sell it. Just let me drive my old alfa 20 years from now.
Handsome vehicle. Too bad it’s end of the era of this vehicle. Hopefully they will build another handsome vehicle. Great show Andrea!
I own a 2018 Stelvio 2.0 litre, 1st year it came out. Ya know when Zach says not to buy a car in its first year of existence? Well, he's right! I had electric gremlins for the first year, Ugh! (which were eventually fixed with an updated CPU) BUT....I have over 92K miles on it and there are ZERO creaks or rattles. The car is built very well. And it drives...let's just say it feeds my soul. Keep up the great work!
get rid of the dealer supplied battery.... Install a non-alfa spec'd battery and most of your electrical issues will disappear
92k miles is basically a new car, Seen Giulias, 2.2 liters mostly, with 400k km and not sure why those would have any rattles or creaks.
@@clbeischer alot of gremlins were the direct result of the Alfa supplied battery....get rid of it and install a non-Alfa spec'd battery
I am on my second QV 2023 in Montreal green. I have owned a QV in 2017 when the car just came out and also had a Stelvio 2.0 for almost 4 years and put 50K miles on it. Never had any issue. The only issue I ever noticed was the "service throttle" which is a glitch and shows up and disappears on its own. Nothing needs to be done for it. It's the most amazing drivers car and the driving dynamics and steering response is simply another level.
Second Montreal in 2023? Is it the original tricoat or the metallic from the Tonale? Paint code?
@@nessuno5403 No first one was tricoat red and second on Is Montreal. Both cars are on my channel.
I've a 2021 Stelvio Veloce (2.0 engine). 3 years, 29k km. Zero issues.
More important, the fun to drive is intact!
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I currently have a 2021 Stelvio QV instead, which is not far behind from Gulia QV IMO. Reliability on its electrical isn’t the best, which caused a few visits were made to the dealership to address the issues. Reliability Mechanically been great, which I have not experienced any issues. Driving this amazing vehicle makes you feel excited behind the wheel every single time. The best SUV which I had even driven. Gulia QV definitely be another level!
I picked up a 2024 Giulia QV “Carbonio Edition” in Rosso GTA. Red leather interior, carbon fiber roof, carbon fiber grille insert, mirror caps and spoiler. Best driving car I’ve ever had and driven. Going to keep it forever. Anyone prioritizing driving engagement should be looking at the Alfa over the M3, RS 5 and C63. The only car that comes close is the CT4 Blackwing.
Alas, the "Carbonio Edition" is just a final marketing pack for the US to make buyers pay a premium. Even the leather inside has been downgraded from the original Nappa leather and alcantara trim, to the 4-cylinders' lower-grade full leather trim.
@@nessuno5403 you’re aware most QVs have the standard leather seating from the 4 cylinders right. And I didn’t pay a premium
@@AP-cc1uw dude, come on. The preceding Quadrifoglio 100° Anniversario and those with Sparco seats still have the original Nappa leather and Alcantara. You got sold Veloce/Ti red seats with the lower grade leather. The Carbonio Edition is a joke, unnumbered and with carbon grille and mirror caps you can buy as accessories anytime. Nothing special at all, but at a higher price 😂
@@nessuno5403 the majority of “normal” QVs have the same leather seats in black. I didn’t pay any more for the Carbonio than I would have a normal QV with exposed CF roof. The 100th Anniversary and Super Sport Editions are both more than mine.
@@AP-cc1uw the Carbonio in the US and Canada were sold at a higher price on the pretence they are limited editions (when all they have is just a few extra carbon bits, recycle gold calipers and lower grade red leather interior). Press releases and articles confirm it.
My son has one and loves it. So does my wife. No problem with it. My son being half italian enjoys the attention.
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My QV is nearly 8 years old and still looks amazing next to its new modern competition. I prefer the analog gauges over the new digital dash though. Overall it’s a very special car to drive and own.
Hope you drive one with the digit dials. You may be amazed at how good the 4 different graphics are (but it sux that the Quadrifoglio badge is digital only)
Giulia Estrema 2023 owner and I love my car and enjoy driving with her every minute. The best car I ever owned.❤
thanks for a great show & hi from 🇸🇪 alfa = passione 🇮🇹 ❤️
Thank you, thank you for posting this!! The best sport sedan EVER made!!! I have a 2022 Veloce and there will be another car like this!!
there will be, same engine, same platform, might be as big as the Charger though, everyone is a bit scared. Will be a hatchback like charger.
Dream daily driver!
I have a 2017 Giulia TI Q4 with the performance pkg adaptive damper 19 inch wheels etc. 87000 miles . Absolutely love love love the Giulia. Sexiest car out there and although I have had a few issues, I would buy it again. The biggest downside is the insurance, which is almost twice the other vehicles I have owned. Insurance company rank Alfa's with incredibly high part replacement costs.. so drives up insurance... Ive check everywhere and they are more than I pay now. In the end...... still worth it every time I drive it.
I owned a Giulia Quad for 4 years....loved, loved, loved the car and never had any issues with it....regretted selling it 2 seconds after i walked out the showroom....the pain has been too much to bare all these years, so when i heard they were ending production i had to, just had to get another...it's just the best looking, handling and fun car you can drive....i will never, ever sell this.....who cares about the interior...it's functional but you never buy an Alfa for interior you buy it for the drive and by god what a drive it is !!!
The Giulia Quadrifoglio is such a magnificent car, but it's a tough sell in the current market, and especially the Canadian market. High performance sports sedans are already a tough sell, let alone a rear wheel drive one in our climate and not so well paved roads in eastern Canada. It's really sad because the Giulia Quadrifoglio IMO has the most soul out of the current European offerings (RS5, M3, C63).
I wish we could make the point that literally none of the competitors are going to be any more reliable than the Giulia. At least not the Caddy, BMW benz or Audi that you mention. The IS of course will be. The real issue with this car is the support network... Do you have a dealership or mechanic that can work on it? If so then absolutely buy this car! I have had 2 (2.0s) and they have both been great.
Part of reliability is available of parts and down time (not just the failure point). I have a 2024 M3 an have had two Audi RS5's and all have been "reliable" - Chalk it up to minor issues being resolved in a quick visit to the dealer vs the QV where it may sit at a dealership for weeks waiting on parts for a minor repair. As much as I like the QV, it's a big part of the reason I didn't spring for one (that and the terrible infotainment).
@chrisburry8147 Many people have had zero issues with their QVs and 2.0t Alfas. If you are going to try and represent a BMW as reliable then your just a dishonest actor. I am absolutely NOT try to say Alfas should be considered reliable. My point is all you hear on the internet is about how you shouldn't get an Alfa because reliability get a BMW instead.. Thats hilarious. All cars have problems. Toyota just recalled 102k cars to replace their defective engines. The unreliability talking point against Alfa Romeo is all hype. As I stated, if you have a dealer or mechanic close enough to you and this is the car you want then you should absolutely buy one and enjoy it. It will break. So will the Cadillac and BMW and any European counterpart.
@@ryanm.3681 first off I did put "reliable" in quotes for a reason. None of these brands are known for their impeccable reliability. That being said, all you have to do is take a look at JD Power, Consumer Reports, etc to see that BMW is definitely scoring higher than Alfa (take that however you want). I've had my M3 and several RS5s for many years with no issues (and previous Audi's and BMWs as well). My point was that not having availability of parts or dealership service networks impacts reliability as well...sure you can go to indy shops but part availability is still an issue.
@@chrisburry8147 BMW and Mercedes are known for their impeccable reliability, that is why they're one of the most popular fleet cars in the world. I live in Italy and they use Alfas instead, unlike rest of Europe police using BMWs
The car is AWESOME... Just sounds like power 😉 .... Rear wheel drive tho....
I wish more cars were as driver focused as this car, I love it
Misano Blue Stelvio Quadrifoglio owner here in the UK - a rare car here (less than 600 on the roads), and a superb car to drive - stylish, fast, not as common as BMW's, Merc's. Audi's etc. Always a smile on the face (just ignore the fuel economy!) - it was bought for the smiles per miles, not the miles per gallon 👍👍
At 5:49 I gasped for the misaligned license plate on the holder, but then I remembered how Jeremy Clarkson once said, "how Alfa is that?"
That's a dealer issue. That doesn't come on from factory.
What a stunning car 🤩
One of the best and the most reliable models Alfa ever produced. A future classic!
A beautiful car and good performance!! A shame it's the last year 🥲 Great review guys 👍👍
Love the color. No bias here at all 😅 It really is the last of the great ICE driver’s cars. I love mine so much. Almost at 100k miles!
But yours has a painted carbon roof whereas in these latest ones, unless it has the exposed carbon, the roof is steel
Before you pull the trigger, see if they have any parts in the part's department.That's a chronic problem keeping these cars on the road.If you must have one , you must lease
Best Sedan of all time !
Its such a beautiful car 😍
The exhaust note....'butta'
I've owned a number of BMWs...
my E46 Touring is parked out front.
Good luck prying someone out of the drivers
seat of an M3. If you're having to choose between
Alfa and BMW...you're doing okay 🤨
I own a 2018 Stelvio Ti Sport since February 2019.....the car has been flawless....best sport SUV to drive....period!!!
Sad to see it go
Beautiful!!!
I own a giulia q4 and I bought it with an extended warranty (just in case) ... I have never had a ln issue with the reliability of my car. It is beautiful to look at (inside out) and always fun to drive.
I agree that though the infotainment system has everything I need, it looks outdated and I am disappointed that over the years, the very modest updates made to it has not made it comparable to lesser enviable brands.
Also wanted to add. I’ve had a 2019 for six years and 40,000 miles. Not a single issue. The maintenance is very expensive. For example, every 30,000 miles it’s a $2000 serpentine belt and with the other stuff it’s about a $3000 service. Oil filters are $100. But it’s worth it.
I smashed the like 👍 quicker than my brain 🧠 could.
I sold them and Fiats for a while when Alfa recently returned to Canada. We had issues with pretty much every vehicle that was sold. Owners were initially enthusiastic, but that soon turned into buyer's remorse. Service issues due to poor build quality and lack of parts availability were the biggest issues. That entertainment system was not top quality when the car was released. Even worse is the hit these owners will have to take at trade in time. If you really want an Alfa, buy a 2-3 year old one from the original owner, after they have been stunned by the lowball offer from the dealers at trade in time.
I own one... it's been perfectly reliable and one minor electrical gremlin was dealt with by the dealer. May get a Stelvio for the wife.
@@lightenergyfractoid5675 you will learn on time my friend. They are fun but sadly junk on reliability
I have a 2019. Mark my words. These will be collectors items very soon and will appreciate value in 5 to 10 years much like an e39 m5. They will be sought after
I have a trofo white quadrifoglio in the uk .I will never sell my pride and joy. I also have a alfa brera. My 17th alfa along with another load of makes .nothing compares to an alfa built in soul and passion.
I owned one 2.0T for 3 years and nothing had happened to me. The only gripe I had was, in area I live, there is no dedicated service center for this. You send your car for service to the same shop as the Fiat, Jeep, Dodge and Crysler. Where I see the same guy who service a fiat for $90 oil change, but it cost me $300 to do the same job.. I was debating about keeping one of our car (outback or Guila) at the end of the lease and get a new one. We ended up returning this due to a few factors: the upkeeping cost will likely and high due to parts and service down the road, No matter how good the Guilia was, you can't beat an outback on reliability.
I heard on the 2020 the steering is not as sharp as it used to be.
But man does it look good in blue. If I had money, this would be a no-brainer.
❤️🍀😎👍👍
Comments like yours are useless. The best model of this Giulia is the 2020 GTA with the revised steering geometry. Also, these 2023 models are the best dynamically thanks to revised rear suspension and mechanical LSD. Don't comment if it's just based on hearsay.
That’s my favorite car I never bought😁 Love the drive, and styling but the trade offs were a bit too much for me. I would consider getting one at the bottom of that depreciation curve.
I considered it, the reliability isn't terrible. The issue seems to be getting parts in North America, a minor problem can take weeks to months to fix.
This will bottom out around 20. And then go up. It’ll do an e39 m5 curve
Problem is they never had enough volume to support nationwide parts distribution
I chose the manual blackwing over this a couple years ago. I remember this car was on sale just before the pandemic with a 30k discount. Maybe you could do a manual blackwing review on my car.
I have 2019 Stelvio I love it will be looking for my 2025. Since 2019 I have had very little problems if any so far I bought a set of tires only.
Quadrifoglio owner for over 5 years now. First as a daily driver but now just a roadtrip toy. Important is to change the original tyres if you live in a cold climate. Also the original battery should be replaced before it suddenly go's dead without a real warning. for now the only 'defect' i had was a leaking shock absorber after driving in a deep put whole and i had to change the front splitter because after a few years of slowly scrapping it at speed bumps they crack on the rear of the spoiler because the carbon is getting to thin. Still a happy owner won't be selling for many years to come.
Probably one of the best drivers car that never sold….Alfa reputation just killed a fantastic car….i am a driver and I fell into this reputation of bad reliability…. I drive Lexus cars , 2 cars. ES350 & RC350FSport AWD, because I am a reliability freak lol !! That car looks simply awesome despite being 10 yrs old…. You know if you want to get more reliability , when you buy the car change for a quality battery and most of Alfa’s problem will go away….check the spark plugs too…. I have to buy one before it goes boring electric !!!! Oh and who cares about the infotainment system, it’s A DRIVERS CAR…. you should see my Lexus infotainment system , it’s sooooo old 🤣, it’s so old but it works and does not break down …. Love you guys great videos !!
Forza Alfa Romeo 🇮🇹🍀💯🥰💓 Meccanica delle emozioni... The Best sedan ever.
As an early adopter (custom ordered mine in 2017) my car has been amazing. Electric Alfas....NO WAY....Imperato is going to kill the marque. This NEVER would have happened if the late great Sergio Marchionne had not passed away. I will never sell my Giulia Quad....never.
Yes, but one would think it would come with a premium sound system.
I'm with Zack all the way on the preferred exterior colour... "Verde Montreal" is a CDN $2,700.00 option that's absolutely gorgeous!
The original tricoat Verde Montreal was suspended in early 2024 and replaced by the metallic version off the Tonale. Beware.
In a world full of German sedans, I'm an Alfisti 😍
Love your reviews but Andrea at 12:20 EPIC FAIL....These Alfas have proved to be more than reliable and far more reliable than BMW, Merc or Audi....Initially (and they should be EMBARRASSED), they supplied the motoring press with press cars that were not properly software updated and prepped and I believe it was MT had stall and Check Engine issues...that was Alfa's mistake....My custom ordered 2017 Giulia Quad now has 40100 miles and has been flawless. My BMW M3 suffered from subframe cracks and my M5 had rod bearing failures, so there you go....Please check Alfa's reliability ratings in polls from OWNERS and you'll find they score VERY HIGH !!! Only Love....James
Need two of them for my boys
I love this car. One day I’ll buy one
got a 2019 Alfa Stelvio Quad, just pass 100k miles, and seldom had any issues except tires. Service not as expensive as another premium brand. It's my dream car and the only one. The only downside is the infotainment system and i have to admit it's the "worst" i have had
I have a 2019 Giulia and a 2022 Stelvio - no problems at all !!!
What are your thougts compared to CT4-V Blackwing that i pocked up a year ago? I really love my BW!
Can't wait to see the review on the new M2 and Celica coming out next year or year after with their new 2l high performance engine.
Looks good! 😅 just 2inch off the ground lol
The Giulia is the best feeling, funnest to drive sedan ever. Driving it is pure joy. But the quality/reliability just makes it a no-starter. You'd have to be crazy. I love test driving them, but I've never had a test drive where there weren't rattles, things that didn't work, or repairs that were clearly needed. Pity, if it were reliable, it would be outstanding.
They drive like no other but they're difficult to maintain
What's "difficult to maintain"?
@@rlsedition Exactly. 😆
I meant from apart's standpoint
@@wespotter6985 I think it may depend on your dealer or source of parts.
Beautiful. But the problem is no dealers to do maintenance where I live. That's problem and get parts.
What a beautiful sporty powerful car that for the price is a great value and with that engine sound who needs a stereo! Great review as always and one more thing, exclusivity just add more sex appeal!
Lovely car. Wrong colour. Alfa red please. From the drivers seat Andrea loves this car and probably isn't worried about the rest of it.
Zak - nice watch - what is it?
I had Giulia Veloce 210hp since 2017 (diesel), in 4y no any single issue, switched to bmw g20 340ix (nice car, nice power, but steering wheel feeling is awful in comparison with Giulia, any Giulia).
In short, I did order new Giulia Quadrifoglio (Montreal green), expecting delivery Sep/Oct 2024. Coming back to Alfa Romeo, from BMW.
In Europe this car is coming with 520hp. Major benefit over previous version is lsd differential (TV wasn’t the best solution). Very the same diff you can find in GTA and GTAm models.
Pros: drivers car capable for daily, like in my case, will be major daily car.
Cons (only two for me):
1. Sport exhaust you can open only and only in Race mode, when also traction is off (stupid, since this was the reason lots of broken Giulia Quadrifoglio’s). Why Dynamic mode (while TC is ON) doesn’t support this or simply on/off button like in Porsche?
2. Missing wireless connectivity for AutoConnect, useful for daily car.
Reliability will not comment, owned 9 different Alfa’s (even FiatAlfa’s with fwd) and never an issue. Recipe, change engine oil no longer than 15.000km (despite factory recommendations) or once per year (what comes first). Don’t push engine until oil is not at the working temperature. And if you push turbo engine car, give him a time to cool down, don’t just switch off engine.
Simple rules referring all cars. Petrolheads will understand 😊👍
I wonder how frustrating it must be to have all that power and never being able to use it.
I have one and I use the power the all the time.
why wouldn’t you use it? Serious question.
@@omnicognatesnr5947 well it’s RWD and it can break traction pretty easily, even in Dynamic mode, never mind Race.
If you do have good traction (when it’s warm out and the tires have some heat) you’re breaking the law in around 4 seconds from a standstill under full throttle. That’s assuming you’re on a country road and the speed limit is 80km/h so you can get to 100 without a ticket.
@@omnicognatesnr5947 roads in Canada have speed limits lol and we don't have an autobahn. Those cars perform best when driving above 100 KMH. But this is also a FIAT car so it's made with junky parts.
@@LiveWire514 FIAT car? You mean Stellantis?
Awesome! ❤ It!
Love the QV but I'll enjoy my '24 M3 Competition xDrive (👍🏻 in Canada) knowing that part and service available are a huge part of owners satisfaction. Not to mention traction in the winter.
why I opted for the Stelvio QV in 2022, as my daily driver in Canada....soul, power, and traction. Parts and service have been stellar in the Toronto area and no issues. (The M3 is a great choice too)
@@vincefava7929 I'm in Toronto as well but just didn't want to deal with any delays IF I did have service issues. I would have went for the Stelvio but I already have an SUV (Audi Q7). The M3 seemed like the good choice for me, but all these cars are pretty awesome (I had two Audi RS5's previously and everyone knocks them...probably people who haven't driven one).
The pleasure pain balance on this car is too much lol
Yeah, you never know when they're going to break down and when they do good luck that the dealer has the parts and time.
@@xorbitman I have a Quad and it's been completely reliable. They forgot to mention the entire car was designed by ex Ferrari Engineers, and essentially has a Ferrari Engine.
@@abc1099a in the end it's still a fiat, they can't figure out how to make a reliable car it seems
@@LiamG903 you don't know what you're talking about.
@@chrisburry8147 I owned one so you are the one who is indeed clueless nice try though bud.
8:20 not a fan of the font used for the tach and speedo. I don't like how the numbers rotate either. The numbers should all be on a horizontal plane so they're consistently easy to read at a glance.
Beautiful car! I don’t car about tech in an M3 better
There's something about blue cars, I click every time
biggest attractor of all the alfas to me is the red interior. biggest detractor is they are not meant to last
Beautiful vehicle, but Alfa's should only be available in Red or Green,never owned one but maybe one day.
It's not the kind of car I'd buy but I want them to stick around.
What about the new Honda Prologue??
This car beats the BMW M3 in terms of feel and rarity. Too many BMW M cars on the road and you risk getting car jacked or stolen. M3 doesn't feel as racey. It is too neutered of feel. It's darn fast but you don't feel much of it. Too insulated. This car is less insulated and the rear feels like it's gonna move but very planted and the car has a more unique tone than all those farty BMW mufflers.
I totally agree with you on how much feel you get in the QV compared to the M3 which felt so muted in comparison when i test drove one after owning my 19Qv which i unfortunately had to let go after a constant oil leak on the timing chain cover. It was such a hard car to let go of. I've now got a c63s coupe which sounds amazing but definitely miss the QV at times.
Live in the Greater Toronto Area and have seen several on the road. Not so rare here....
M539 is a great channel too!
Preferred the IS350 over the IS500? Do tell!
@@SlipAngleG70 probabkt awd, I've had both and the is500 is better in every way other than awd.
Unless they are losing money on each one sold, eliminating their halo car seems like a really bad idea a’la Subaru STI. Sad.
I’m fortunate enough to live across the street from a Maserati/alfa Romeo dealership in Ottawa.
I see them everyday but to me there’s no wow factor about them.
I’ve always thought of alfa Romeo as having way over priced vehicles.
My advice buy a bmw m3 competition xdrive instead
On a side note that same dealership has a couple of Maserati mc20’s in there
Don’t even get me started on those 😂
Do yourselves a favour
Get a Lamborghini Huracan technica instead
Go…? You mean this model will not be available in Canadian market or out of production?
The Giulia and Stelvio Quadrifoglio models are being discontinued. The Giulia and Stelvio will carry forward for another year.
It drives like it's on rails even over uneven, Washboard roads
I know that car is a blast to drive especially when pushed. Too bad they are getting rid of it but I get it not enough sale$.
ما شاء الله والله يبارك فيكم ❤️🌹
Been driving a QV since 2019, never had any issue. Scheduled maintenance, fuel, oil, tires, thats it.
Have also been looking at its competition („the world has moved on since 2019!“) to see if there is any point in replacing it. And there is the issue: You cannot really replace it. M3 is a great piece of engineering but ugly as sin and far less charismatic, same goes for the AMG which on top of it is a few 100kgs heavier. The only thing that compares really in my book is the Ferrari FF.
Love this car...but sadly need sunroof and interior colors.
Nasty old mercedes grey
Why can they make stelvio qf in awd but not the guilia
have to love an Alfa.. although i dont understand lol.
Maybe I missed it, but you should mention it was designed by a bunch of ex Ferrari Engineers, and has what is essentially a Ferrari derived engine... for those that know...hands down beats the M3 in every possible way except (recently) performance numbers.
@@lightenergyfractoid5675 every possible way except performance numbers?? Lol isn't that the point of these cars?
@@chrisburry8147 you say “these cars”. I guess I don’t look at them as a group, I value the overall “feel”. It feels much more special. If you’re ticking boxes you could nitpick the dated interior or some reliability aspects. Overall though, it’s a living legend.
@@lightenergyfractoid5675 to each their own. I value the entire experience, which is why I went with the M3 (after owning 2 RS5's). Not to mention that unfortunately the RWD nature of the QV doesn't work for me in our Canadian climate even though I have an Audi Q7 as well.
@@chrisburry8147the Alfa still outperforms the M3 in RWD form. Power output is the same as the M3 comp. Only the xdrive is faster. But I drove a few M3s and was completely bored. If driving engagement is the priority the Alfa is where it’s at. I also don’t understand why people think they need AWD for a performance car. With good winters the Giulia is totally fine. It’ll punish you any time of year if you drive like a boy racer, but that’s the point. It’s a real driver’s car, not a video game.
@@AP-cc1uw the RWD is faster than the QV. Plenty of comparisons online. Besides mine is AWD and will beat the QV even if I put it in RWD mode (the nice thing about the G80 M3).
Love ❤
Wish I could afford the Quadrifoglio plus its insurance. Maybe a used one 🤔
I own a 1988 AR Milano Verde, it has the green 4 leaf clover on it. Great drivers car but sketchy reliability. If the Guila QV had the Manual trans it would likely be in my driveway. Otherwise I really like my (blue) 2017 BMW M240i MT, my 2023 Camaro SS MT convertible and my 2004 (Holden) GTO MT
Too bad the QV GTAm was never sold in NA.
We need to seriously get rid of the front license plate! If one province does it, ALL provinces should!!
15:07 The brake lights doubling as the turn signals are unacceptable. The brakes and turn signals are supposed to be separate lights and turn signals are amber, period. Why do all the Euro brands completely ruin the taillights on USDM vehicles?
Blind? The lights on the bootlid function only as brake lights. And blame dumb US homologation standards otherwise.