Bergara B14 HMR in .308 win, Long Distance!
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2021
- Hi everyone,
Today My friend Abbott and myself take out the Bergara B14 HMR and his Woodland Bergara B14 HMR both in .308win. I hope you enjoy this video and please like and subscribe to the channel to support more content that you will love to see. I appreciate you. We shoot at an 8 inch steel plate placed at 400 yards and a stake with some balloons on it. In the middle or so of the video you will not see a balloon or two get shot. I'm still learning the editor the best I can and I had to sync the target cam with the trigger pulls. As a bonus I brought out the Uberti Cattleman ii 45 Colt, Henry Lever Action 45 Colt and the Ruger 10/22. We shoot these a little bit at 25 Yards then have a 3 Shot Comp at 50yds with the Uberti. We didn't get time to shoot the Freedom Glock 9mm and the M&P Shield 9mm due to a couple local people coming and chatting with us for over an hour. Shout out to The Ordinance SGT Channel. Dude you are awesome and I hope you see this! Today probably isn't my greatest day of shooting but we had a lot of fun and I hope I can take you guys on more of these shooting adventures as my channel evolves. Thank you so much for watching. Stay tuned for the SHTF rifle that has not been introduced yet. If you would like to send me an email please see the email below. Right now I currently have no sponsors or paid promotions. However my goal of this channel is to eventually have sponsors to be able to afford better camera work and editing software to bring you better reviews and unboxings of different guns and accessories. Edit: I kept say Bergara Woodland it's the Bergara Wilderness Series.
Update: Lunch was bought. Couple Solid parkers gas station hot sandwiches and a drink.
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The b14 .308 loves that 168grain. Ive watched so many videos of people testing different loads. It always seems to love those 168 match. I gotta get some myself. I zeroed my b14 and then haven't shot it since. I was hitting my 4 inch steel at 300 yards after zero. Such a good rifle.
I agree. I tested so many different loads and it always goes back to the federal match 168gr SMKs. I haven't got to shoot it since last year which sucks. Just been keeping busy through Army schools and college and a move etc. I've almost got my garage cleared enough to get the bench going again.
Great shooting. If I could offer some advice on your trigger technique; It’s to squeeze and hold the squeeze for a 1sec count before releasing. This should help with slight left pull or right push. Just my observations. Also if possible stiffening the bipod cant and preloading it is helpful too. Way back in the 80s when I was on my units shooting team our instructor always said “If you look after the little things, the big things look after themselves”. I’ve strived to do this in most facets of my life. Good shooting guys.
“Fail to plan-Plan to fail”
Thanks man. I completely agree. I normally do. But it was definitely a stress shoot. And I learned a lot from doing it. I only had 20min of recording time on the target camera and had to run back from down range and start sending rounds.
What branch were you? I'm currently an active duty engineer.
@@caseysammobench thank you for your service Casey. I started my career in the Canadian Army Reserve as a combat medic. I Retd as a Warrant Officer of the Royal Canadian Air Force in the Royal Canadian Medical Corps working as a Physicians Assistant.
@Bill R that is awesome! I appreciate all your advice and thank you for your service.
Also thank you for supporting my channel. I know I have a long way to go to create better content. I just figured that I have to start somewhere. Especially getting used to talking about this stuff on camera. I feel like it is much more difficult than it seems. Especially trying to do this with no sponsors or monetizing yet. But I have about 4 years left before I retire, so I want to build it up enough before I get out. Also just bring people what they would like to see from watching gun reviews.
Nicely done 👌🏾
Thanks Zach, glad to see you here. Good luck with the moose. Can't wait to debute the 6.5 Grendel!
Nice rigs!
Thank you! I really appreciate it
thanks for the vid. did you try with some 180 or 190gr bullets?because the twist barrel is 1:10 and i read it is better to use heavier bullets?
best greetings from France.
Thank you for watching!
I haven't yet. The highest I have gone so far is 175gr. My rifle preferred between 168 and 175 the 168.
If I can get my hands on some more ammo, I will try to do a video on some different grain weights of quality ammo.
I recently just got a new target stand to hold the steel plate. To make it a bit easier.
Nice, just ordering a 300 win mag Pro 👍🇨🇦
You are gonna love it. This thing definitely turned me into a pretty die hard Bergara fan. Most of my friends that shot mine ended up getting their own.
Good shooting guys. Although a couple of you killed the hostages lol I mean by shooting the wrong balloon. 😂
Haha, ya. In the rush we didn't acount for the 20yd difference of the balloons and plate. I appreciate it.
Nice shooting man! I actually like my HMR stock more than the camo of the woodland, but I do have the grey version of the HMR, not the brown one☝🏻😊
Thank you! Man, I was dyin out there. It was so hot. Lucas, you have the HMR pro then right? With the fluted bolt? I love Bergara. Ended up choosing them on a sale to the next rifle and never looked back.
@@caseysammobench 😄 but it lokked you guys had fun! No mine is the regular HMR, just with a grey stock. I was told it would be a limited version🤷🏻♂️ and I thought it looks a little cooler that the brown one and my other rifle (CZ457 LRP) is grey too☝🏻😊 Mine was not on sale, but I thought it was the best option, if I would want to hunt with it too, as the other options were way to heavy for hunting purposes...
@@lukas-ik7qe dude the CZ is nice as hell. That's really cool they had Grey stocks. I think I actually remember seeing them when I got mine. But I think all they had in that color was 6.5 Creedmoor. I love 30 Cals though and was fully setup to load .308 so I stuck with it. Also a favorite thing of mine about the Bergara .308 is the shorter Barrel. I'm pretty short so it helps a ton while walking.
@@caseysammobench In germany you only get the grey stock with a .308 in 24"🤷🏻♂️ Yes the CZ is a great 22 rifle aswell☝🏻 So are you relaoading now for the HMR, or are you still using the federal 168gr?
@@lukas-ik7qe interesting about the Bergaras for Germany. In this video I'm just using Factory Fed Gold Medal 168gr bthp. I had to get the new bushing for the new die set so, Abbott picked that up and it will work. Now I just haven't had time over the past few weeks to make some more hand loads. Figured I'd just have some fun and shoot. Next video will be the new hand loads and then testing the powder charge node with Abbotts hand loads.
I really like the CZ that you have, I was looking into another Bergara. But I'd like to see if they also have it in 17HMR.
What holster is that smith and Wesson sitting in? I love it!
www.desantisholster.com/mini-scabbard/
Sorry about the late reply Dr. Kane. I posted the link above. I think I got it on the base I was stationed at a long time ago. But I really do enjoy it. Only issue I have is there is no securing mechanism, having said that I have put it through a lot in that holster and it's never fallen out either. It's a really nice fit.
I have the B14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor and it shoots great. I replaced the trigger with a Trigger Tech Special, whuich I think is a slight improvement over the factiory Bergarta trigger.
Hi David,
Thanks for the comment and sub. I agree. I have the triggertech diamond on mine but honestly the factory trigger is really nice. I think reducing the pull weight by about a half a pound would have done the trick.
I just got the triggertech for less than 200 on a nice deal.
@@caseysammobench I did say it was a slight improvement, mostly the frictionless release. I agree the factory trigger is pretty good, but Trigger Tech is just that tiny bit better.
What bullets y’all running. Just bought a bergara hmr pro and trying to load up on different ammo to see what the rifle likes
Damn, that hmr pro is gonna shoot nice. I'm a huge fan of the 168gr SMK.
I have so many Factory Federal Gold Medal Match with 168gr SMK so I shoot those a lot. I also have some factory 175gr SMK.
My handloads shoot much better. I re-use the factory Federal Match brass, with Federal Match primers, paired with Varget.
Hope that helps and thanks for watching. I know its not my best day on the range. But I love making the videos for everyone.
the wilderness berrgara sounds so much different then the other bergara
Definitely not really any different, I just like the cerekote job and it does come with its own brake but we replaced it with the APA.
Or are you just talking about within the video itself and the noise?
How do you find the muzzle blast with a 20 inch barrel? Do you find yourself watching for richet muzzle blast? Do you wish you went slightly longer?
I have no issues with it. I like the 20in cause I'm so short and it's easier to walk around with while hunting.
Bergara, nort Spain 👌😜🇪🇦
They did a great job!
What is that thing on the front of the barrel for. Is it a muscle brake or muscle flash or what is it and what is it for ? Does it helps with recoil or what is the purpose of please
Hi, it is an APA little bastard gen 2 muzzle brake. It helps with recoil. It does so well that recoil is nearly non-existent with the .308. I'd say it tames it down to shooting something with the kick of a .223 caliber AR-15
What bullet weight / type/ ammo works best? I’ve tried Hornady 150 SST, which shots great in my PSA 10, but 50 yards in Berg it’s dead on, then 100 yards groups great but at 11 o’clock and 4 “ off center
For mine the federal 168gr Sierra Match King boat tail hollow point (bthp) Gold Medal Match ammo works best. Try that and the 175gr.
@@caseysammobench many thanks!
nice video. im thinking about buying this gun but had concerns about the 20" barrel. i read some of your comments about that and it doesnt seem to be an issue. im not trying to get into precision, just trying to buy a decent gun that can shoot metal up to 1k yards
No issues on the 20" barrell. Obviously, I'm not a sniper or anything, but I have pushed this rifle reliably past 1k at a 10in using 168gr federal gold medal match ammo. I picked it up for 900 and spent 900 on the Vortex Viper PST gen2 FFP in MRADs, with a 20 MOA rail from leupold.
It's reliable as hell, and I feel it brings you into a different level of shooting. It's not a 6k dollar custom rifle or anything, but I feel like it gets you in the range where you can start competing in some PRS matches if you wanted to.
I hope that helps. In a nutshell, it's an animal. And it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Recommendations would be to check the action screws though if you do get one and ensure they are torqued to spec. They require between 55in lbs and are know for sometimes loosening a bit. Nothing a bit of loctite can't fix though if needed.
@@caseysammobench hey I appreciate all the info. Its more than likely the rifle I'll be getting. I like to do the kind of shooting you did in this video, even the 22s. I don't have the takedowns but I have a couple custom Ruger 10/22s that I love shooting. I'm just trying to get a little more distance with a rifle that can handle it. The Bergara came up often when I searched for rifles in its price point. Thanks for all the info you provided.
hi, I'm interested in HMR .308 how do you find your rifle heard many say that before sight-in the rifle it requires removing or clearing the paint on the mini-chases and screwing down as per Bergara specs. why is it the one that I order (hopefully arrive in my FFL in a week's time) have built in with 30 cal omni muzzle breaks (per in the picture) did you change yours? nice shooting like your video.
You will be fine don't worry about removing any paint. Check the action screws though. They should be at 55in lbs.
My muzzle brake is an apa gen 2 little bastard.
Thank you for the comment. Happy shooting. You will love this rifle.
Mine shoots best with federal gold medal 168gr bthp
I didn't do any of that and my .308 b14 with Hornady 168gr match was sub moa.
How much does one of those rifles run ?
Hey! Thanks for watching. They are definitely in the lower price range for all the features you get. They run anywhere from 750 to 1200 depending on the sale you get. Black Friday is a good time to buy and it's when I seen the 750 tag. The scope is the Vortex Viper PST Gen 2 in MRADS with EBR-2C Reticle. No real reason to miss anything that I did, lol. Take care and happy shooting.
What barrel lengths are those? I just ordered a 20" 308
They are 20". I love them man. They can easily push 1k yards and the furthest I've pushed it is 1035yds on a 16in plate.
You will be super happy. What I use is the Federal Gold Medal 168gr SMK bthp. I'm also working my own hand loads with the same projectiles.
Also, which version did you order? The regular, wilderness or HMR Pro?
@@caseysammobench Wilderness, I think it will be fine. I am in Louisiana, not really shooting anything over 300 yards. Plus, I plan on putting a can on it.
@@tylermyers6336 hell ya, I'm here in GA so same kinda hunting I believe. Swampy Woodlands.
Only issue I have found with Bergara is the action screws seem to not be torqued down well enough as well as the cheek riser screw.
Bergara recommends between 55 and 65 inch lbs per action screw. Mine had walked out after about 4 months of shooting. I tighten them down to 60 inch lbs now and I have not had a single issue.
Then the cheek riser screw just give is a good check to make sure those two screws are tight. Can't remember if I got a torque number on those but it doesn't matter.
Happy Shooting!
What optic u are using
Vortex Viper PST Gen 2, 5-25x50 FFP, with EBR-2C reticle in MRADs. Mounted with vortex pro rings and a leupold 20moa rail.
You’re missing a balloon that big at 400 yard
Sorry man. My bad
How has the trigger tech worked I seen where you can’t change or it volds warranty from them if you do on the owner manual
It's worked great. The only issue I have had is the lack of civilian ranges or time to shoot my own guns. I've been running around like a chicken with its head cut off for a little over a year now. Went to airborne school, directly to multiple field problems, drill school and a move. Now a drill sergeant with no dang time. Lol.
@@caseysammobench so you can change it without voiding the warranty
@madman3044 the trigger tech has its own lifetime warranty. It was dropped into the bergara as a modification. Bergara was insanely awesome. I fell and broke a piece of the rifle and emailed them and they no questions asked just sent me the piece I needed to replace at no cost.
Not sure if you were talking about voiding the trigger warranty or the gun warranty. I hope that answers the question though.
Where you get muzzle brake from?
It's an APA gen 2 little bastard. You can get direct from American Presicion Arms or I believe from Brownells. I highly recommend it.
@@caseysammobench my parents are married…..thanks,i wanted a bergara in 7mm mag but maybe later i dont do hunting or think can afford but would like to own one for giggles
@@Mr.Lawton534 it is a great rig for less than 1k.
You did not edit our your misses on the green Baloon fyi
Lol, I wasn't going to. I know I'm not the best shot out there or anything. I had a lot of fun making the video that day though.
Thats the same red dot Wyatt Earp used!
Haha right, it's what all the best used in that time. I try to keep it traditional.
Hola, gracias por compartir el vídeo. ¿ Sabes cual es la diferencia entre el cañón de 24 pulgadas del HMR y el cañón de 20 pulgadas del HMR wilderness, ambos en calibre 308?. Tengo entendido que el cañón de 24" lanza el proyectil a 861 metros/segundo y el cañón de 20" lo lanza a 826m/s pero habría que comprobarlo en una diana a 1000 yardas y ver las agrupaciones de uno y otro rifle para compararlos.
I'm not too sure of the comparison. From what I understand, Bergara stopped making 24in barrel .308 HMR a while back. I'm not sure if they started making them again, but I do know there is no issue with the 20in reaching 1k yards. I have pushed the range to 1,035 yards with 168gr federal gold medal bthp. Hope this helps and thank you for the comment.
Thank you very much.
@@caseysammobenchvivo en el norte de España. Hace unos días fuí a una armería y compré un rifle Bergara B14 wilderness HMR en calibre 308 de 20". Tardará un mes en llegar. También compré un bípode Harris, un visor Vortex Venom 5x25-56 y una base de 20 moas. Estaba un poco preocupado por ser el cañón de 20 pulgadas y que el visor tenga problemas para corregir la caída del proyectil si quisiera disparar a mil yardas pero como tú me has explicado, no tiene problema para alcanzar esas distancias. Muchas gracias.
@@alvarodebazan7997np, that's a great setup!
Nice Shoootin', you probably get that asked alot, but what's your scope rings model and height? Greetings from Quebec
Thank you! They are vortex precision on top of a 20moa Leopold rail at .87 height. Hope this helps. The Vortex mounts rock. There is definitely far more expensive ones but these will be around 130 to 150. Then the rail is about 60. Also the Vortex pro mounts around the same height is a really great option costing around 75 for the rings themselves.
@@caseysammobench Thank you for your help! Good day
Somehow silly, to shoot into the wood
Dieter Wolf, we were shooting at an 8in steel plate hung on a tree. Then, there are some balloons on a stake we shot as well.
What’s the length of the barrel?
It's 20inches, thank you for commenting. Hope you enjoyed the video!
What kind of flash hider is on the b14?
It is the APA little bastard Gen2
@@caseysammobench Did you notice any changes in your groups after installing it? How does it perform in low light and night shooting? Do you have any video testing it in different light situations? What ammo works best for the rifle? Sorry about all the questions, I bought my hmr back in December and about to finally buy a scope this week. Thank you for helping.
@@indigenousiron7692 its fantastic. I haven't measured the groups really without it. It's just much less kick. It brings it down to pretty much the kick of a 223. Just very easy to control. Also I have no issues in low light. I use Federal Gold Medal with 168gr SMK BTHP.
I also re load my own with the same brass as shot in the video, Varget powder and 168gr SMK bthp. It shoots amazing through this gun.
What tourqe wrench do you use for your scope? What setting was it set for your bergara? I've got the scope, rings, rail and scope mounted bubble level in the shopping cart and just need to pick a tourqe wrench. I'm really looking forward to firing it for the first time.
@@indigenousiron7692 I use a wheeler, but if I got another it would be the Vortex one. I like it because it's thinner and will be more usable with other things in the future.
What muzzle break?
APA Gen2 little bastard. Its amazing on this rifle. Cost is between 150 and 200 they came out with the gen 3 that you can tune as well.
@@caseysammobench awesome thank you!
What bipod and scope do u have
It is an atlas. It's been a while since the video. I finally figured out the tightening process so its not so loose on the canting left and right.
www.accu-shot.com/catalog_new/atlas-bipods-official-manufacturer/125-bt46-lw17-psr-atlas-bipod-standard-height-with-adm-170-s-lever.html
Scope is a Vortex Viper PST Gen2 5x25 EBR 7C reticle in MRAD vortexoptics.com/viper-pst-gen-2-5-25x50-ffp.html
It's on a leupold 20MOA rail with vortex pro scope rings.
@@caseysammobench thank u 🙂
make your own ammo and youll never miss again.
I do make my own. I finally got my correct load dialed in. Thank you for commenting! I can't wait to get out there and show you guys the hand loads. They shoot great.
@@caseysammobench awesome...i have the same rifle same scope. 500 yards is a chip shot.
@@tomdick693 your absolutely right. Seems I never have my best days on camera, lol. This whole video was pretty brutal to make too. I had used my DSLR camera for the target cam which only allowed 20min of recording. Once it was in place we had to sprint back the 400 yards and start recording the shots in that time frame. I was super stressed out, lol.
Overall, I hope you enjoyed the video for what it was and as soon as I can I'll get back out to that area and do a little more shooting at some different target types.
389 yards in long range???
It's subjective. I generally consider anything beyond 300yds to be in the realm of long range.
However, I see 500yds is where a lot of skill really starts to show. I'm definitely not the greatest shooter on the planet but I try. Some variables in consideration here are, it's essentially a stress shoot. The target camera only had 20min of recording time and we sprinted back to the firing point where we had to almost immediately lay down rounds.
No type of backstop is a bit dodgy
No real danger. Not blasting into oblivion. Aiming directly at a tree in which a steel plate is tied to. And next to and behind it is a forest.
The bullet won't make it through all that wood or curve around any. I would say no more dangerous than hunting and having other hunters around in the area, which there usually is.
@@caseysammobench thats fine you've done a risk assessment and if the balloon doesn't slow it down before you n a fluke it hits a hunter you have done your safety assessment. Although even hunters are liable for where their bullets end up. Personally I would spend the few dollars on a mound of sand over risking my house on a ricochet.
@Alasdair Macleod the forest is about 20yards behind the balloons. Almost directly in line with the steel plate on a tree. For the risk assessment. There is zero houses for close to 40 miles beyond said tree line if not further as it is several WMAs connected together. That paired with not shooting over the tree line and directly into what essentially is a good back stop (a forest) pairs well for safe shooting. I do appreciate your input, however. Just stating the fact that precautions were met as well as speaking with a couple near by land owners to let them know I was on the WMA and firing that direction. As you are correct sure a few truck loads of sand would be safer. Just not necessary and a massive extra step, with a big financial investment for a day shoot at 400 yards.
So in England we HAVE to know what we are shooting at AND BEYOND! How do you know what’s in those woods behind? What if people are walking there?
I appreciate your comment and concern. I can assure you all the neccessary precautions were taken. Between knowing the area I'm in and talking to the bordering property owners.
Beyond that, truck loads of sand are absolutely not necessary for this specific instance.
Get rid of the music!
Lol, will do. It's from the UA-cam edit. Thought it would be cool at first 😆. This is a pretty early on video. Acquiring some better equipment so I can do a similar one. Check back in a few hours and it should be out of there.
Gone...
This has to be right up there with one of those worst videos I've ever seen congratulations on showing nothing
I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Hope you find some videos that you do like. I'm definitely working on trying to get better at the video processing and editing. Good luck on your search.