So your all telling me you would not want to play against the pros as you would get beat . Well for 1 I would love to say iv played against mvg or Phil Taylor I would not care if I lost badly . And 2nd they might bring the best out of me and I might beat them who knows. But to get better at darts you have to play the best and learn from lossing .
This thing seems pretty good. I thought it would be junk, but it seems like it picks up pretty good, and I like how it shows the coordinates and heatmap of where every one of your darts hit the board. It is great for keeping track of exactly where you are hitting.
It’s roughly about 790 pounds if u convert the euros into sterling..... I think I’d help up the average and make you into a far better darts player and plus no adding up 😂💪
I really like the concept. As others have mentioned it's a bit of a premium product. I could imagine spending four to five hundred us dollars maximum for a unit like this. And I would need to have games with friends weekly to justify the expense. That said, I think it's great. I wonder if the computer and camera in a smart phone has the muscle to do what this system does if someone developed an app for it. Our cameras can already recognize bar codes and some other types of objects for VR. It doesn't seem to be a stretch to think a smart phone or tablet can achieve the same thing.
Very good video, but I have a request: Could you try out whether the system works completely without errors with soft tips? Experience has shown that this does not harm the sisal boards (if you should have concerns about this). And you should have a few soft tip darts from the Christmas calendar, right? A friend of mine plays it at home because it's a rented apartment and the wooden floor is very high quality.
They should market the heat map feature way more than the self counting aspect imo. Anyone who struggles to count their score can just use the calculator app on their phone for free. But he heat map could be a massive advantage for practise
Automatic statistics are VERY good. I suppose you can squeeze a lot of obscure details if you just try on this contraption. I like that. A lot. Much smoother than doing it manually.
The part I missed is where this thing might take away a big portion away from learning to calculate the scores yourself? Obviously the system works amazingly well, but for me there is strenght in practicing the math yourself :D ps: you should totally rotate your board to a different T20 :P
I work as a data scientist, I might look into doing that, it is quite difficult due to the possibility of inaccuracy due to the phone camera not being as high quality, and the possibility of not being able to host such an intense model on a cell phone, thus driving up costs each time a dart is thrown. If hosting costs go down defiantly possible.
Looks fecking awesome, can they connect via WiFi or has it got to be an ethernet cable? Was looking at the pro version but I'm thick as mince and can't see the difference.
A lot better for people like me with learning difficulties not having to work out the checkouts, it's hard enough just working out my 3 dart score sometimes. Very expensive too, I only get disability.
Hello, I have a little bit weir question :D do you think 40cm space behind oche, from where I throw is enough? I do not have more space in my room and I wonder if it is enough. Thanks for help :)
Nothing really, all you need is wired Internet and a phone, tablet or computer to follow your scores. If you don't have wired Internet in your darts room, you'll need a powerline adapter 👍
Ahh okay, so, I assume you're in the UK? Since we left the EU, you no longer have to pay taxes on items such as these! But, you will have to pay taxes when it enters the country, I was refunded 166 quid but then had to pay 144 quid in taxes
@@TheDartsReferee nice one jack, you got from scolia.com, the one that’s €869? Shows as euros on the site which I get will converted but just double checking
If it was £400 I would buy, but I cant justify £719. I would like to know if the camera lenses are protected. It wouldnt be unsual for a dart to bounce now an then.
You’re not throwing how you normally do, everything seemed so wrong to me, but I suspect you already know that, at least it can only get better from here matey 😂🤣 good luck pal.
@@TheDartsReferee a shower curtain pole was the first thing I thought of but figured is must've been some fancy tripod. Thanks for the replie. I might have to get one and try it out now 👍
@@TheDartsReferee I kinda had the same thing so I had to change my throw to a bit like Ian white drawing the dart back and fourth before I throw and it did work
they dont ship to the U.S. unfortunately.... if they did, and they would allow me to use ur code, i could get it for $720!!!! 590 euros!! no vat tax etc.
Nah so the powerline adapter comes with 2 boxes, one you plug in next to your router and the other plugs in next to your Scolia and you connect the wires up and it uses the mains in your house to transmit the data. If you search TP-Link TL-WPA4220KIT 2-Port Powerline Adapter on amazon, that's the one I use and works perfectly fine
You really release dart very late. This Scolia Home System looks so great, but it is also too expensive. If you are not pro player, I am not sure, if you need it.
So basically, a bounce out could theoretically cost you a thousand quid if you hit and break one of those cameras? I mean, imagine it comes out at a good speed spinning and goes point first into the cam, it would take me forever to get back into darts after that hahaha
Simple. They made the product and the software, then priced it at that. Not rocket science, and not that expensive either. If you can make better yourself, code the software and services, valuing your time at minimum wage and still make it cheaper, go for it.
Cool review I'm a subscriber of ur channel. I'd love to play you a game sometime my avg is anywhere from 40 to 60 at best only been play from the start of the pandemic I've hit 12 180s in that time
If people can buy a big fu..... boat with a big fu...off motor, just to fish bass, then you can find people who would buy this. I might, but it would have to have a good presentation for the numbers, and I don't see that. It's possible of course, but I'm not going to waste time thinking about it. Maybe if I see someone with a really nice, slick setup I would consider it.... but not as shown here, no.
Rush your last dart a lot, especially when you've had a poor first two. So common. I used to be a demon for it, focusing on the quality of each throw is more important than the score I think. A good action will eventually result in good scores. Focusing on the scores won't necessarily result in a consistent action. Best of luck.
@@TheDartsReferee I don't doubt that. I just think setting good habits is important. Frustration and expectation get to dart players like no other sport at an amateur level and peoples game go to pieces because of it, mine included for years. In Golf and Snooker the action is the primary focus, developing consistency with it will ultimately yield results. When it come to darts it seems like we're all in too much of a rush to get the bad ones out of our hands and then hit the odd ton run to make ourselves feel good. Just my opinion
Have played with this System a couple of times at a friend’s house and it had some issues with recognising my Darts. Oddly enough never when it was on the wire or something, but when it was obviously in an other bed, and only with my Darts (must have been the long points or something) But it was only 1 in 100 to 150 Darts, so that is o.k.
Worked hard! Wasn't a gift, I bought it myself, BUT they did offer me discount codes to anyone who watches my videos and if enough sell, they will send me one for free, so I'll do a raffle or something for one
Dont know why he took exeption to you being excited at the prospect of a new no 1,since it took 7 years to happen. And Im still going for RVB to be 10th pick LOL
Am I the only one that thinks these scorers are kinda useless if there isn’t a bug enough community of players that actually use the app? Like if I play DartCounter, I can get a match within seconds every time and can choose who to match with (being a 30avg noob I don’t wanna play 60 avg peeps)…
It might be produced for Jose de Sousa, no front :D
😅He will learn it some day...
Pmsfl and Anderson
😂
You didn't mention the fact you can play other people online . And some of them people are pro players .
So your all telling me you would not want to play against the pros as you would get beat . Well for 1 I would love to say iv played against mvg or Phil Taylor I would not care if I lost badly . And 2nd they might bring the best out of me and I might beat them who knows. But to get better at darts you have to play the best and learn from lossing .
This thing seems pretty good. I thought it would be junk, but it seems like it picks up pretty good, and I like how it shows the coordinates and heatmap of where every one of your darts hit the board. It is great for keeping track of exactly where you are hitting.
I think £1000 is far too expensive for the average player, and I can’t see very many of these selling tbh
I think a lot of the pros/ people who want to go pro might start using these because it shows them the heat map which could be useful
It’s roughly about 790 pounds if u convert the euros into sterling..... I think I’d help up the average and make you into a far better darts player and plus no adding up 😂💪
nearly sold out in every german shop. It does sell
@@jynxy3707 a grand for a heat map. Just use whitlock points
@@Sportsperformanceanalysis you can buy it in a set with the termote or without.
I got one of these to put around my toilet .. very useful .
So this is what my Super Chat money was used to buy. Brilliant system
I really like the concept. As others have mentioned it's a bit of a premium product. I could imagine spending four to five hundred us dollars maximum for a unit like this. And I would need to have games with friends weekly to justify the expense. That said, I think it's great. I wonder if the computer and camera in a smart phone has the muscle to do what this system does if someone developed an app for it. Our cameras can already recognize bar codes and some other types of objects for VR. It doesn't seem to be a stretch to think a smart phone or tablet can achieve the same thing.
Very good video, but I have a request: Could you try out whether the system works completely without errors with soft tips? Experience has shown that this does not harm the sisal boards (if you should have concerns about this). And you should have a few soft tip darts from the Christmas calendar, right? A friend of mine plays it at home because it's a rented apartment and the wooden floor is very high quality.
Looks great, but for $1,000+ I think I'll stick to my Russ Bray app. Thanks for the video though, very interesting.
They should market the heat map feature way more than the self counting aspect imo. Anyone who struggles to count their score can just use the calculator app on their phone for free. But he heat map could be a massive advantage for practise
Can you do an update video on this? I am considering it for myself. Do you have any other game add ons for it?
Automatic statistics are VERY good. I suppose you can squeeze a lot of obscure details if you just try on this contraption. I like that. A lot. Much smoother than doing it manually.
It looks like it has been a year now, are you still using this setup?
The part I missed is where this thing might take away a big portion away from learning to calculate the scores yourself? Obviously the system works amazingly well, but for me there is strenght in practicing the math yourself :D
ps: you should totally rotate your board to a different T20 :P
The math is really importent at darts they say
i know the probabilty is slim but what if you had a bounce out and the point went into the camrea lens? do the camreas have any sort of protection?
I know this is an old comment, but I know someone who bought one, had a bounceout on day 1 and wasnt covered by warranty! 😮😮😮
oh god you're tempting me into buying one of these, please no! xD
That heat map looks sick, it would be very useful for me
I hope there will soon be an app that does something similar, utilising a phone camera.
Great vid mate.
Dumb.
I work as a data scientist, I might look into doing that, it is quite difficult due to the possibility of inaccuracy due to the phone camera not being as high quality, and the possibility of not being able to host such an intense model on a cell phone, thus driving up costs each time a dart is thrown. If hosting costs go down defiantly possible.
This is the best review of this system yet. Good video!
how much discount do i get and isit only on the scolia web site ?
Looks fecking awesome, can they connect via WiFi or has it got to be an ethernet cable? Was looking at the pro version but I'm thick as mince and can't see the difference.
the options just come with the bulls light, the bulls backboard, and or the bulls dartboard.. the base model is for the camera system only...
Does it sync with three platforms ? Phone,tablet and computer ?
A lot better for people like me with learning difficulties not having to work out the checkouts, it's hard enough just working out my 3 dart score sometimes. Very expensive too, I only get disability.
Put mine up today played for a couple of hours. Now the processor won’t turn on? Any ideas mate?
Them cameras would be full of holes in a week with my quality chucking
What's the difference between the spark surround and the bulls termote 3 surround, anyone know?
It works with only bull tremote surround?
Hello, I have a little bit weir question :D do you think 40cm space behind oche, from where I throw is enough? I do not have more space in my room and I wonder if it is enough. Thanks for help :)
All depends on where your foot usually rests, it might be enough, you'll have to measure out 40cm and see if both your feet fit inside the gap
@@TheDartsReferee Ok thanks a lot :) it is not that bad, but could be better :/
I had the same issue and had to reposition my board to allow for a gap to throw from
Do you have to calibrate the optics when first setting up or changing the board?
Yeah but it's a 2 minute job, the system does it for you pretty much, you just make sure the cameras are angled correctly but it helps you do that too
Since you got that now you dont need the old one right?
Great channel mate, im in exactly the same boat as you, but I’ve not played for 10 years, just got my set up. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Will it work with a trainer board(half sized segments)?
What other apparatus is required e.g smartphone what else thank you .I have just purchased the Home version
Nothing really, all you need is wired Internet and a phone, tablet or computer to follow your scores. If you don't have wired Internet in your darts room, you'll need a powerline adapter 👍
I think the heat map is the most interesting part of the system
Yes I agree, what’s the harm of counting it yourself instead of using a computer
I'm curious as to why the heat map would serve any purpose? Surely u know where your darts are going by looking at them
@@alexbennett5724 it’s a great way to visually represent complex data. For darts you can understand areas where you have the least variance etc
I have seen these.... pretty neat... but, they cost over 1200 here in ohio
I’m in California and want to buy one. Is there a local reseller here in the USA?
Can you get all the party games on an app with it?
These are totally worth it great fun and easy to use it’s helped me out loads
The discount code for a180 or scolias site just i noticed the link beside the discount code?
Trying to build one myself. So far still working on calibration. Will let you know when it's working
Does it work?
And? Does it work?
Isn't there a unicorn board that is able to count via an app?
Yeah, I've never tried it before, I've heard its not great but I really couldn't say!
Yes, you have a selfcounting board and app from them. Much cheaper
Which one did you get jack I’m looking now and it’s saying £522 for the advanced bundle was expecting it to be much more?????
Ahh okay, so, I assume you're in the UK? Since we left the EU, you no longer have to pay taxes on items such as these! But, you will have to pay taxes when it enters the country, I was refunded 166 quid but then had to pay 144 quid in taxes
@@TheDartsReferee ok cheers will look into it prob looking about £700 then
@@TheDartsReferee hiya pal roughly how much was this product all together including the taxes when coming into the country
Is this the scolia pro? Did you get the termote light with it or you had it already?
It's the home version and I got the termote delivered with it 👍
@@TheDartsReferee nice one jack, you got from scolia.com, the one that’s €869? Shows as euros on the site which I get will converted but just double checking
If it was £400 I would buy, but I cant justify £719. I would like to know if the camera lenses are protected. It wouldnt be unsual for a dart to bounce now an then.
Does it tell you how to checkout as well ??
Yes 👍
In my country, the shipping fee + customs duties are too expensive, so I’m destined to miss it.
how hi is the dartbord up on the tripod
Great video, Hello from South Africa.
I'm just getting back into Darts as well. I can't afford this, but I like it. Maybe one day.
Russ Bray screaming 180 sound effects and would be worth the cost.
What darts do you use?
My own darts referee darts, will be available for purchase soon 👍
Seems like a great bit of kit.
You’re not throwing how you normally do, everything seemed so wrong to me, but I suspect you already know that, at least it can only get better from here matey 😂🤣 good luck pal.
Looks like you beat all 8 gyms in darts lol
22 seconds into the video on the left hand side, what sort of tripod or phone mount Is that?
This may sound silly but I love a work around. It's a floor to ceiling clothes dryer pole and handlebar phone holders attached to it
@@TheDartsReferee a shower curtain pole was the first thing I thought of but figured is must've been some fancy tripod. Thanks for the replie. I might have to get one and try it out now 👍
33 first throw....occult number...
I'm no darts expert but I think when you throw you turn your wrist a bit and maybe that's a problem
Yeah it is, I just tweeted about it actually, something I need to work on, I never used to have this problem so it's very annoying!
@@TheDartsReferee I kinda had the same thing so I had to change my throw to a bit like Ian white drawing the dart back and fourth before I throw and it did work
they dont ship to the U.S. unfortunately.... if they did, and they would allow me to use ur code, i could get it for $720!!!! 590 euros!! no vat tax etc.
Unless it lies and makes the scores better for me only, don’t think I should spend that much on it 😝
Hi jack u said there is a free shipping code in the description but I could not find i it great vid
Can it work on WiFi instead of ethernet cable
Not yet, although you can get a powerline adapter for 30 quid which does the job
@@TheDartsReferee thanks for fast reply my router is downstairs my dartboard is upstairs in back bedroom would i have to run a lot of cable?
Nah so the powerline adapter comes with 2 boxes, one you plug in next to your router and the other plugs in next to your Scolia and you connect the wires up and it uses the mains in your house to transmit the data. If you search TP-Link TL-WPA4220KIT 2-Port Powerline Adapter on amazon, that's the one I use and works perfectly fine
What if you’ve a bounce out?
No score
@@Quintendejong123 I know but will the board register the dart has fell out or will it register the hit (like soft tip)
@@coreymurphy4657 think register a 0
You really release dart very late. This Scolia Home System looks so great, but it is also too expensive. If you are not pro player, I am not sure, if you need it.
Can you do an review of the dart stand ?
I'm actually doing a review of a stand soon, not this one but a different one, I made ALOT of modifications to this one as its not amazing on its own
@@TheDartsReferee Can you give us an idea of what modifications you made?
Discount code doesn’t work they said it’s expired
Such a great concept. Just wondering how your first 9 average was 88 when your overall was 46?! Especially when you only had 3 tons over 300+ throws?
cuz he may have missed some doubles
I fluked a couple good scores at the start lol
Oh also, it was 5001 not 501
Hi
Can this be used with webcam darts ?
it has a own online system
@@tobiaskeller2941
Yeah I know but I do prefer to play at webcam darts
That is absolutely brilliant if I was any good I'd get 1 myself but unfortunately I'm not
Loving the how ridiculous sticker, looks good pal
yo darts referee had it made you a better darter allready🤩
So basically, a bounce out could theoretically cost you a thousand quid if you hit and break one of those cameras? I mean, imagine it comes out at a good speed spinning and goes point first into the cam, it would take me forever to get back into darts after that hahaha
No you would just buy a replacement camera
Love the outro card its pretty neat
Uhmmm, what is the discount code , sir? And is it still good? : > }
When will your darts and flight be out
Probably be mid-end of February
Looks good ge ge ge get thought you were gonna start singing then...
Dear Scolia, Canada Exists. Love... Canada 🇨🇦
Know how your feeling. Was playing first to five with my mate and was 4-1 up and lost 5-4 😭
Then on tournament 1min of how much left(?) ... 😆
How the hell is that 1k lmao
Simple. They made the product and the software, then priced it at that. Not rocket science, and not that expensive either. If you can make better yourself, code the software and services, valuing your time at minimum wage and still make it cheaper, go for it.
This is a pointless waste of money get a sight right watch some pro's on UA-cam for tips save you a fortune.
Fantastic video that jack mate looks like a nice dart board 1000 dollars wow that's dear jack
Major glitch at 5:26 , you hit 26 on 138 and it scored 26, 49, 6, 0 while pulling your hand out.. less you just skipped ahead in editing.
Ohh yeah I skipped a chunk of me throwing absolute shite so no one had to endure watching it 😂😂😂
Good video mate
cheers austy
Cool review I'm a subscriber of ur channel. I'd love to play you a game sometime my avg is anywhere from 40 to 60 at best only been play from the start of the pandemic I've hit 12 180s in that time
So many Hidden Fates tins 😂
Didn't even get the full art charizard, disappointed
@@TheDartsReferee awww never not opened a lot of hidden fates myself, been trying to get fat pikachu from vivid voltage
my son has prolly 20 charizardd
A 9 minute ad nice.
Sadly your Discount code no longer works are there any others you know of Please
If people can buy a big fu..... boat with a big fu...off motor, just to fish bass, then you can find people who would buy this. I might, but it would have to have a good presentation for the numbers, and I don't see that. It's possible of course, but I'm not going to waste time thinking about it. Maybe if I see someone with a really nice, slick setup I would consider it.... but not as shown here, no.
Rush your last dart a lot, especially when you've had a poor first two. So common. I used to be a demon for it, focusing on the quality of each throw is more important than the score I think.
A good action will eventually result in good scores.
Focusing on the scores won't necessarily result in a consistent action.
Best of luck.
Yeah I do when it comes to making videos where the focus isn't necessarily on what I'm throwing, I am much better when I need to be I promise! Haha
@@TheDartsReferee I don't doubt that. I just think setting good habits is important.
Frustration and expectation get to dart players like no other sport at an amateur level and peoples game go to pieces because of it, mine included for years.
In Golf and Snooker the action is the primary focus, developing consistency with it will ultimately yield results.
When it come to darts it seems like we're all in too much of a rush to get the bad ones out of our hands and then hit the odd ton run to make ourselves feel good. Just my opinion
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Any cheaper products out there? That do the same thing. $1k is ridiculous
450 for home
Not trying to be that guy, but you should rotate your board! Thanks for the video!
Have played with this System a couple of times at a friend’s house and it had some issues with recognising my Darts.
Oddly enough never when it was on the wire or something, but when it was obviously in an other bed, and only with my Darts (must have been the long points or something)
But it was only 1 in 100 to 150 Darts, so that is o.k.
can I have your old dart board?
Holding a camera isnt an excuse for throwing them arrers ref
I launched in a 180 while I was holding my son yesterday
ok buddy
How did you afford that or was this a sponsored gift?
Worked hard! Wasn't a gift, I bought it myself, BUT they did offer me discount codes to anyone who watches my videos and if enough sell, they will send me one for free, so I'll do a raffle or something for one
I thought of building my own
Jack,I see Justin slagged you off. Funny how hes never ever said anything about DPTV on his blog!
He's a weirdo 😂😂😂
Dont know why he took exeption to you being excited at the prospect of a new no 1,since it took 7 years to happen.
And Im still going for RVB to be 10th pick LOL
Fuck knows, who cares 😂😂😂
Am I the only one that thinks these scorers are kinda useless if there isn’t a bug enough community of players that actually use the app? Like if I play DartCounter, I can get a match within seconds every time and can choose who to match with (being a 30avg noob I don’t wanna play 60 avg peeps)…
What Pokémon you got? 😅
very nice system, but to expensive
When you're channel name is The Darts Referee and you spend 1000 dollars on an auto scorer.
I see the irony 😂😂
@@TheDartsReferee lol. Must be nice though.
It's great! I love it
I bet lol.