I can wrap my mind around the fact that it's now 15 years since he went missing. It feels like it was yesterday to me. I think of him very often and regularly google his name in the hope that I may have missed any possible updates. One of the most haunting cases I can remember, my heart goes to him and his family. All the best for them.
@@RR.LL.3BMaybe there is someone who knows, probably even. Bizarre accidents where no body is found are rarer than kidnapping I suppose bit who can say. If there is I hope they're found😢
You must have an Empty & Meaningless Life if every day for the last 15 years you've thought about someone who you don't even personally know !!! Get A Life !!!
This show didn't tell it's viewers that the reason why there was no CCTV of Andrew other than him leaving Kings Cross station on the day of his disappearance & 4 weeks had passed before anyone knew he'd caught a train to London because the police focused all their efforts in trying to prove Andrew's loving caring & distraught father was responsible for his son's disappearance. As with most missing persons cases all over the world the police/law enforcement first assumptions are that a member or members of their family is responsible or they've intentionally run away or started a new life. By the time they've concluded either fact has nothing to do with their disappearance too much time has passed for them to fully explore more sinister scenarios....
I believe he went to London to meet someone he’d met closer to home, someone that was able to connect with his love for music, they sold him the idea of an unmissable opportunity in the city and told him to meet them there and promised him a lift home afterwards. Whatever the opportunity was, he thought he’d be home in time to cover his tracks but was sadly abducted and killed.
Didn't he like the idea of disappearing he used to like the life and times of redgie perrin and some people say he wanted to do the same? Sad really as no one really knows
A credible theory. Police have said in subsequent documentaries that there were no records of Andrew ever using the internet, so an online groomer can be ruled out. This would suggest a planned meet with someone who Andrew knew in person. If I was a detective I'd be taking a closer look at the adults at Andrew's school and Scouts group in Doncaster. The reason for his uncharacteristic trip to London must surely be connected with his disappearance - it's highly unlikely that a 14-year-old would randomly leave home AND be the random subject of a stranger abduction in Central London.
@@mikecorrigan763 He also said he had "Lost" his mobile phone a couple of months before he got on the train. He walked home from school instead of catching the bus about a week before he went MIA. This walk would have taken him over an hour! I think he had been talking to whoever it was luring him to London. 2 men were arrested on suspicion of trafficking Andrew about 4 months ago. I think they have found photos of him. Let's see what unfolds. There is NO WAY he went down to London to start a new life dressed in just a T Shirt and leaving nearly £100 in cash in his bedroom. Anyone that thinks he is slinking about London, sleeping rough is delusional. Everything points to him being dead. Without a body or somebody saying something, sadly, I don't think this will ever be solved
@@chadster123 I know this is a super old comment but Andrew had several phones between the ages of 10-12 but lost or broke them and when his parents offered a replacement he said he'd rather have an Xbox. So Andrew would have had to keep this phone hidden for 2 years or more and then head off to London. He also only walked home from school once, not several times.
I don’t know why that part specifically hit me hardest, but Andrews dad recreating how he would lounge is absolutely heartbreaking. His face kind of lights up describing it. :(
* for ? No you're wrong in connection with not for and they've both been released there's no evidence at all for that or the CPS world of charged them with child trafficking they wasn't it was indecent images that's where the bail comes from
@@Tom-uv7rythey have to be legally released lol they need to set up a case before they can charge them which they stated in the press release. It could take up to a year or more to search their devices.
I still can't get my head around Andrew's disappearance. All that I can come to conclude is that he planned in the comimg weeks to travel to London that Friday. It makes sense to me when it was mentioned that he walked home from school a few times prior to him going to London. It was as if he was giving himself extra time to be expected to be home, and extra time to return home that Friday. Whatever happened to him in London is a mystery and my heart goes out to his parents, sister, family and loved ones ❤
…I’m just wondering if his changes in routine (getting home late by walking etc) has something to do with it… maybe he met someone on his walk or used a… telephone box maybe? Or maybe an internet cafe?
Unobtainable: Why does the UK media ALWAYS have it over our American junk? You dear people who wrote and filmed this heartbreaking, beautiful documentary approached your subject with grave dignity and grace. I could not stop crying and I'm a 69 year-old, hardened true crime man. God bless you with abundance and joy in all of your ventures. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for restoring my faith in media.
@@NebulaBull You know, most of the documentaries about his disappearance report the story from his parents' perspective ONLY. We NEVER hear from any of his friends or his teachers, which I find extremely strange. It's clear that there was a great deal about Andrew's inner life of which his parents simply were not aware. But what I find even stranger is the fact that, had this occurred in the States, there would be literally thousands of web sleuths all over UA-cam and investigative reporters would be chasing down leads TO THIS DAY. So much in Britain goes on the down low when stuff like this happens and we can't get any personal information out of the family or friends. The exact opposite of what happens in the States. How do all we folks seeking more info actually get it? It's like blood from a turnip. When Summer Wells disappeared, her parents invited the media into their home. The Wetterlings and the Gosch's were on all the newscasts all the time. Why are things so different in Britain? Enquiring minds want to know exactly what's taking place over there!
@@maxalberts2003 I am stationed in the State the Wells are in, i am not seeing the vast discrepancy you're with friends and family I know of thousands of missing persons cases in the US that can't get 'air' time for tv or social media I've also known this to happen in the UK where I live. The difference I do see is in the UK they are more respectful of personal information, so many people who finish their sentences for horrid high profile crimes are always allowed to legally have their name changed, in the US that is never hardly allowed.
@@NebulaBull I'm sorry. I don't understand your comment. Was it meant as a dig at me? At the video? Are you a crime reporter? It's been my experience that friends and families of people who go missing can step up and request publicity. Everyone handles their missing persons case differently. As for legally changing one's name, in some cases it's entirely up to a judge and is based on the kind of crime committed.
@@maxalberts2003 No my original comment was typed out on another post and because this was next up in the playlist and I didn't finish typing the comment until this video was playing it posted here and no digs honestly I was half asleep when I typed the second comment.
I've always said Andrew was very much looking around for someone as he got off that train. I remember that look that excitement of meeting someone, looking around.
@@reallyryan_ in my opinion that is what it looks like. I did it myself not as young as him. But met virtual strangers at a train station. You can't say categorically he wasn't meeting anyone as we don't know.
@@reallyryan_ In all honesty I am inclined to believe that Andrew did arrange to meet a person or persons in London and that was why he skipped school & jumped on a train to London because that's the most obvious & likeliest explanation. It's quite clear from what Andrew took or didn't take with him that day he didn't plan to run away from home. I also think that if his intention was to go/visit London on his own to see a particular band or attend a certain event he wouldn't have been so secretive & not told his parents. He had family in London, he'd been a few times before & his parents felt quite confident he knew his way around & knew how to contact or visit their family & friends that lived in London. As for the one way train ticket he bought I think whoever he had arranged to meet made him believe/convinced him they would drive & make sure he was home before anyone knew he was missing/skipped school. It's probably the only way to entice or convince a street smart intelligent 14 year old to get into a car with strangers. I don't see how anyone can be certain or so sure he wasn't meeting anyone....
I remember him going missing. I lived on the next street to this family. It’s crazy how someone can vanish like that especially in London. Hope this documentary has some good news I’ve not heard yet or he is found safe soon
That’s the poster kid. Should apply aging technology to the photo because people just assume he’s wearing the same clothes and hairstyle for 20 years if not
Andrew was not groomed he had no internet access, his father had stated this over and over, he never went out the door except school, i think he just went off for a few days in london, he was 14, hormones raging, after getting off the train at kings cross, he was spotted by who ever, he will have stuck out like a sore thumb, it was a school day, he was dressed in slipknot teeshirt, he was not street wise, he did not realise the dangers lurking, the child is dead, neither is he andyroo, he was not having a love affair with someone older, i wish the child had just gone to school, god knows who took him, but he is well gone, his father tried to hang himself a few times after andy went missing, the poor man, who the police tried to pin it on, wasting time instead of looking for andy, the police took a full month before checking cctv, which had been taped over by that point, its been 14 years since he disappeared.
How would his father know that Andrew had no internet access? It sounds like his parents didn't have a clue what was going on his life. They didn't even realise that Andrew was not in the house until it was time for dinner. The poor kid was obviously depressed but it seems that no-one asked him what was wrong.
@@Anna-Jade yes I thought he might be depressed, the police contacted Sony, his psp had never connected to any WiFi, neither did he have a phone, they also said he never touched his sisters laptop, ive never read if the family had WiFi or not, I wish the lad had just gone to school, I hope this case is solved before I leave this earth
@@Anna-JadeThey checked his Xbox account, Sony account, home computer and school library computer for evidence and found nothing - he didn’t even have a cell phone so it would be hard for him to be groomed or meeting someone online. Public free Wi-fi was extremely rare in 2007 and very limited so he would have a hard time to use his PSP to communicate with the person and it probably would only be via some jailbreak to access chat rooms on the low quality PSP web browser app without Sony noticing. He had internet access, but clearly showed little interest in it and nothing shows he was chatting with people so frequently he would plan meetups. It’s just weird that Andrew somehow would go to such lengths to scrub every trace of contact with the groomer in order to keep the meeting secret - but at the same time skip school and take all the consequences it provides which essentially would force him to admit to the meeting or where he was. There are significantly better ways of meeting people from online in secret without parents noticing, for example during the weekend and after school.
I mean looking at the case, he could have been hiding a phone from them, we all have to remember a groomer is very adapt at telling kids, hey don’t do this…. And manipulating. And if Andrew was gay he more than likely would have even further kept it hidden away because what would his Christian parents say? Sure, they said that’s alright but to a kid that might be much
I don't believe his parents had anything to do with it. Andrew has planned it. I think he had enough of school and planned this in his head over the 6 weeks holidays. I remember being 14 and thinking I could do anything without realising how dangerous the world was. And the fact he is seen on CCTV alone at kings cross completely dismisses his parents having anything to do with him going missing
children are so vulnerable especially in London where you have so many predators. unfortunately i fear the worst probably shortly after he arrived in the metropolis.
This doco was filmed 7 months after Andrew's disappearance. I noticed that his mother is already talking about him in the past tense. I thought that was unusual.
I believe he met someone at the university and they shared same interests for music he went to London for concert because he went back to get changed into slipnot t shirt usually people wear those type especially for concerts! The police should have investigated was there any type of concerts that week! And secondly he didn't get return ticket probably because he was offered lift home by that person! His dad said he wasn't Street smart and shy he probably believes everything that person said. Another theory is that he got lost in London and someone offered him lift home or help him find his way back and things escalated.. the police should have done more!! There's a lot of cameras in London!! For godsake he was seen sleeping on a bench that proves my point. He probably got lost there weren't maps on phones back then? My heart goes out to his family I keep thinking about them. And this poor lad!! He didn't run away
I have a similar feeling to you. He definitely was being different in the run up to him leaving and then when he came back from that uni trip he was apparently different, more jovial. I think it's possible an adult got their hooks in then and arranged to meet in London. As you say, his family say he wasn't street smart but he he pretended to leave for school, came back amd set his uniform up to look like he came home and got changed? Someone helped him come up with that. Those extra smart people don't think about stuff like that. I think he did think he was coming home though. I think he would have left a letter or took clothes or something if he didn't want to come back
@@44LillPuffin He must have been planning something big, perhaps a quick trip, I do wonder what led him to make such a risky action though? And the one way ticket meaning he didn’t plan on coming back, maybe he was afraid of what his family would think so it was sort of like a "act now, worry about it later" type of mindset? He must have been lost but was trying to search for someone for sure, I do hope he is alright to this day..
If you're not from the UK you may not know that accents vary a lot within the UK and not just by geographical location - for example, a middle-class person from Doncaster sounds different from a working-class person from Doncaster.
He met someone online who enticed him to London to see a band rehearse or something and he was promised a lift back, hence no return ticket. ticket. Probably arranged to meet him in McDonald's near King's Cross.
That’s false. he never spent any time online. The police already checked the school computers, library computers etc and checked with Sony and they confirmed he didn’t have any online access
@LouiseSmith-sh6mo in 2007 you could set up a yahoo email without as much as a cell phone number. I know as l used to do it. Also as a journalist l wanted to be 100 percent sure that l couldn't be traced.
I believe he might of committed suicide or he’s being easy lead on by someone and they have taken him on board ever since 2008 . Worst thing is we may never know but while we’re still young and got technology around us let’s keep trying to find him
@@Thenorthsace I check YT, Google, FB all the time since the two arrests supposedly “connected to Andrew.” I believe the arrests occurred last December/January. The few articles I read said it could take 6 mos to a year to analyze all electronics belonging to the accused. It’s going on a year now and I tend to agree with you. Had the arrests led to any information on AG, I believe LE would have disclosed that by now.
I first heard about Andrew on a documentary I actually think it might of been this one when it was aired on tv. I then remember seeing his picture on the milk bottles after they bought it back and I remember reading in a newspaper that his parents had redone his room after so many years.
There's a UA-cam channel called that chapter that has done a episode about it. Apparently there's been some news of him being alive but it wasn't anything solid. Hope he's OK but it seems like he wouldn't be unfortunately
Hold on so why didn’t the school call the parents of Andrew if the school were wondering why isn’t he at school they would’ve called the parents to ask him. Why isn’t he at school?
The school did call. Unfortunately they left a voicemail on a wrong number. I just feel Andrew was let down with the phone call, missing/not working cctv etc. Also London has/had alot of predators operating, you can't help but wonder if Andrew fell victim.
It seems Andrew deliberately knew he would be missing by buying a one way ticket. I am sure he will be found eventually alive or dead. someone will come across something eventually. If I was going to disappear I wouldn't of left my PSP charger home and money though. No one can disappear without a trace.
Andrew really needs to be found but there is so much misinformation. Here are the facts confirmed by his dad. Andrew went to Lancaster uni to do a gifted and talented course a full year before his disappearance and NOT a month before. He didn’t use the internet and if he did, with the lack of using computers he wouldn’t have had the technical skill to really cover his tracks other than deleting his history. Andrew only walked hone once from school and NOT as a new routine. The only legitimate witness sighting that seemed to match Andrew was in a nearby Pizza Hut in Covent Garden where he was still alone. He carried his PSP with him and played on it whilst on the train. The PSP did not have connectivity to the internet and even if it did mobile websites weren’t really a thing back in those days and were basic at best. Trains did not really have WiFi during this time and if they did it was at a price. Andrew apparently ‘lost’ a couple of mobile phones. Phones were cheaper back then however it is slightly suspicious that he managed to lose 2 of them.
Andrew left under his own volition and clearly wanted to buy extra time by making it seem as though he had gone to school or he didn’t want to appear out of place in his uniform and wanted to avoid suspicion. It has been a long time since Andrew disappeared and I genuinely feel that he has left us. I do think he was groomed and under false pretences was asked to travel down to London which is far away enough and big enough to get lost in. What was he going to use the £200 to buy? One would think it was either going to be an expensive day out going to see something of interest OR the person that may have been involved had offered to sell him something of interest. I really hope he gets found soon.
To me it sounds like he was possibly groomed by someone at the uni trip, they had more than a whole year to convince him to get on a train to london, maybe they gave him a phone, the pred could of convinced him to loose his phones to stop him from being traced he was found walking home from school a few days before he went missing, maybe he was using this as an opportunity to talk on the phone without anyone knowing
I've seen many documentaries of the Andrew Gosden case. According to one of them, the police, instead of checking CCTV footage of the London vicinity for his whereabouts, they spent the beginning part of their investigation interrogating the parents in their home. That was pathetic because in any missing person case, the first couple of hours are the most crucial for the investigation, regarding police checking CCTV, asking neighbours, asking passersby, the family posting fliers, etc..
There was someone claiming to be him on xbox live years ago apprently he was living with a man (his partner). This was years after he went missing . Probably bs thou
Two farmers killed a man and disposed of his body because he was harassing one of them for money, a court heard. John Iveson, 36, from Nantwich, disappeared in January 2007 but his body has never been found. Paul Billington, 40, a pig farmer, from Rossett near Wrexham who is also Mr Iveson's brother-in-law, and Mark Done, 47, from Nantwich, deny murder. The jury at Chester Crown Court heard Mr Billington owed Mr Iveson tens of thousands of pounds for a house.
I've looked over alot of cases in my life and I can tell u that this case gives me chills it gave me chills bk then and it gives me chills now andrew had a pay as u go phone and possibly Internet at home he was directed to London by a speedophile who most likely shared interest in rock bands andrew liked the rock concert was simply the ruse weather andrew got to watch it we'll never know the crime happened bk in 2008 which I consider the Internets dark age
Sorry, not to sound off, but that kids parents are just weird... I'd have ran away too... I think there's a bit of denial on the dads part, if you know what I mean...?
I can't put my finger on it, but I'm sensing that there's something a bit odd about Andrew's father's demeanour. I really hope I'm wrong, but I feel he knows more than he's letting on.
I assume he was nowhere near London at the time of the last CCTV sighting, or we'd know by now. Unfortunately the only odd demeanour is Andrew himself, which is what makes this case so difficult.
I think that until a person has gone through the exact same thing a parent goes through when their child has gone missing it's unfair to make any kind of comment about that person. Put yourself in Andrew's father's place, imagine it was your child that did something completely out of character & never came home & never saw them again and a complete stranger posting unsavoury comments & subtle hints online that you did something bad to your missing child. How would that make you feel? I suggest you think about that before you post hateful & unfounded comments that intentionally hurt & cause them unecessary pain & suffering.... Shame on you!
@@sarah5893 Hey, Sarah, cool down!!! I never implied anything that you're implying I said, so don't attack me for your warped sense of mind. Make sure you read the words before you jump to any false conclusions!!!
I can wrap my mind around the fact that it's now 15 years since he went missing. It feels like it was yesterday to me. I think of him very often and regularly google his name in the hope that I may have missed any possible updates. One of the most haunting cases I can remember, my heart goes to him and his family. All the best for them.
I walk past his poster everyday and it just baffles me how there’s someone out there that knows what’s happened to him
@@RR.LL.3BMaybe there is someone who knows, probably even. Bizarre accidents where no body is found are rarer than kidnapping I suppose bit who can say. If there is I hope they're found😢
@@RR.LL.3BI wonder if this person will ever confess on their deathbed, later in life, where his body is.
You must have an Empty & Meaningless Life if every day for the last 15 years you've thought about someone who you don't even personally know !!! Get A Life !!!
isnt it possible that only Andrew knew what happened?
This show didn't tell it's viewers that the reason why there was no CCTV of Andrew other than him leaving Kings Cross station on the day of his disappearance & 4 weeks had passed before anyone knew he'd caught a train to London because the police focused all their efforts in trying to prove Andrew's loving caring & distraught father was responsible for his son's disappearance. As with most missing persons cases all over the world the police/law enforcement first assumptions are that a member or members of their family is responsible or they've intentionally run away or started a new life. By the time they've concluded either fact has nothing to do with their disappearance too much time has passed for them to fully explore more sinister scenarios....
Exactly this!!!!
I can't believe with all the CCTV cameras they have around London that that was the only image of him after he got off the train.
BECAUSE they didn't look at the footage!! The corrupt cops took six weeks to ask for the footage, but by then it had been deleted.
The investigation moved so slowly that by the time attempts were made to check footage, the files had been overwritten.
Yeah how convenient for the police a missing teen they wait months to even try and look at footage i have to wonder what the police are hiding
@@infinitepossibilitiesandmo2303 Probably nothing, it's probably just total incompetence.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348that is so odd and especially unprofessional on the police part
I believe he went to London to meet someone he’d met closer to home, someone that was able to connect with his love for music, they sold him the idea of an unmissable opportunity in the city and told him to meet them there and promised him a lift home afterwards. Whatever the opportunity was, he thought he’d be home in time to cover his tracks but was sadly abducted and killed.
Didn't he like the idea of disappearing he used to like the life and times of redgie perrin and some people say he wanted to do the same? Sad really as no one really knows
A credible theory. Police have said in subsequent documentaries that there were no records of Andrew ever using the internet, so an online groomer can be ruled out. This would suggest a planned meet with someone who Andrew knew in person.
If I was a detective I'd be taking a closer look at the adults at Andrew's school and Scouts group in Doncaster.
The reason for his uncharacteristic trip to London must surely be connected with his disappearance - it's highly unlikely that a 14-year-old would randomly leave home AND be the random subject of a stranger abduction in Central London.
@@mikecorrigan763 He also said he had "Lost" his mobile phone a couple of months before he got on the train. He walked home from school instead of catching the bus about a week before he went MIA. This walk would have taken him over an hour! I think he had been talking to whoever it was luring him to London. 2 men were arrested on suspicion of trafficking Andrew about 4 months ago. I think they have found photos of him. Let's see what unfolds. There is NO WAY he went down to London to start a new life dressed in just a T Shirt and leaving nearly £100 in cash in his bedroom. Anyone that thinks he is slinking about London, sleeping rough is delusional. Everything points to him being dead. Without a body or somebody saying something, sadly, I don't think this will ever be solved
You lot love coming up with paranoid theories don’t you lol
@@chadster123 I know this is a super old comment but Andrew had several phones between the ages of 10-12 but lost or broke them and when his parents offered a replacement he said he'd rather have an Xbox. So Andrew would have had to keep this phone hidden for 2 years or more and then head off to London. He also only walked home from school once, not several times.
I don’t know why that part specifically hit me hardest, but Andrews dad recreating how he would lounge is absolutely heartbreaking. His face kind of lights up describing it. :(
Two men have been arrested in connection with the disappearance of Andrew, they have been arrested for child trafficking.
* for ?
No you're wrong in connection with not for and they've both been released there's no evidence at all for that or the CPS world of charged them with child trafficking they wasn't it was indecent images that's where the bail comes from
@@Tom-uv7rythey have to be legally released lol they need to set up a case before they can charge them which they stated in the press release. It could take up to a year or more to search their devices.
Not entirely true
Nothing came of it
I still can't get my head around Andrew's disappearance. All that I can come to conclude is that he planned in the comimg weeks to travel to London that Friday. It makes sense to me when it was mentioned that he walked home from school a few times prior to him going to London. It was as if he was giving himself extra time to be expected to be home, and extra time to return home that Friday. Whatever happened to him in London is a mystery and my heart goes out to his parents, sister, family and loved ones ❤
yeah, Andrew's daily routines and changed leading up to his trip to London
If that’s the case, why did he only buy one way ticket? 😭
…I’m just wondering if his changes in routine (getting home late by walking etc) has something to do with it… maybe he met someone on his walk or used a… telephone box maybe? Or maybe an internet cafe?
Unobtainable: Why does the UK media ALWAYS have it over our American junk? You dear people who wrote and filmed this heartbreaking, beautiful documentary approached your subject with grave dignity and grace. I could not stop crying and I'm a 69 year-old, hardened true crime man. God bless you with abundance and joy in all of your ventures. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for restoring my faith in media.
This is their version of Americas most wanted it's a tv show that aired regularly
@@NebulaBull You know, most of the documentaries about his disappearance report the story from his parents' perspective ONLY. We NEVER hear from any of his friends or his teachers, which I find extremely strange. It's clear that there was a great deal about Andrew's inner life of which his parents simply were not aware. But what I find even stranger is the fact that, had this occurred in the States, there would be literally thousands of web sleuths all over UA-cam and investigative reporters would be chasing down leads TO THIS DAY. So much in Britain goes on the down low when stuff like this happens and we can't get any personal information out of the family or friends. The exact opposite of what happens in the States. How do all we folks seeking more info actually get it? It's like blood from a turnip. When Summer Wells disappeared, her parents invited the media into their home. The Wetterlings and the Gosch's were on all the newscasts all the time. Why are things so different in Britain? Enquiring minds want to know exactly what's taking place over there!
@@maxalberts2003 I am stationed in the State the Wells are in, i am not seeing the vast discrepancy you're with friends and family I know of thousands of missing persons cases in the US that can't get 'air' time for tv or social media I've also known this to happen in the UK where I live. The difference I do see is in the UK they are more respectful of personal information, so many people who finish their sentences for horrid high profile crimes are always allowed to legally have their name changed, in the US that is never hardly allowed.
@@NebulaBull I'm sorry. I don't understand your comment. Was it meant as a dig at me? At the video? Are you a crime reporter? It's been my experience that friends and families of people who go missing can step up and request publicity. Everyone handles their missing persons case differently. As for legally changing one's name, in some cases it's entirely up to a judge and is based on the kind of crime committed.
@@maxalberts2003 No my original comment was typed out on another post and because this was next up in the playlist and I didn't finish typing the comment until this video was playing it posted here and no digs honestly I was half asleep when I typed the second comment.
I'm ages with Andrew. I remember the poster up of him in our school library. I really hope his family get answers soon
Very sad case, thank you very much for uploading!
I've always said Andrew was very much looking around for someone as he got off that train. I remember that look that excitement of meeting someone, looking around.
no he''s not, he wasn't meeting with anyone.
@@reallyryan_ in my opinion that is what it looks like. I did it myself not as young as him. But met virtual strangers at a train station. You can't say categorically he wasn't meeting anyone as we don't know.
@@reallyryan_ How do you know he wasn’t meeting anyone?
@@strongcoffee7 paedophiles hang around at train stations ready to pounce on your kids
@@reallyryan_ In all honesty I am inclined to believe that Andrew did arrange to meet a person or persons in London and that was why he skipped school & jumped on a train to London because that's the most obvious & likeliest explanation. It's quite clear from what Andrew took or didn't take with him that day he didn't plan to run away from home. I also think that if his intention was to go/visit London on his own to see a particular band or attend a certain event he wouldn't have been so secretive & not told his parents. He had family in London, he'd been a few times before & his parents felt quite confident he knew his way around & knew how to contact or visit their family & friends that lived in London. As for the one way train ticket he bought I think whoever he had arranged to meet made him believe/convinced him they would drive & make sure he was home before anyone knew he was missing/skipped school. It's probably the only way to entice or convince a street smart intelligent 14 year old to get into a car with strangers. I don't see how anyone can be certain or so sure he wasn't meeting anyone....
Why do we need to listen to bloody Bob Geldof inserting himself into this narrative
I still see posters of Andrew about, I wonder what happened to him
I remember him going missing. I lived on the next street to this family. It’s crazy how someone can vanish like that especially in London. Hope this documentary has some good news I’ve not heard yet or he is found safe soon
I remember it clearly and have followed it because I have family in Yorkshire and live in london and done that exact journey a day before.
250.000 people go missing in the UK every year.
Did you ever see him in the weeks leading up to his disappearance and if so did something seem 'up' with him?
As he was a only 14 he would of been quite venerable. His birthday was only a few weeks before mine.
Imagine knowing you are missing.
That’s the poster kid. Should apply aging technology to the photo because people just assume he’s wearing the same clothes and hairstyle for 20 years if not
Andrew was not groomed he had no internet access, his father had stated this over and over, he never went out the door except school, i think he just went off for a few days in london, he was 14, hormones raging, after getting off the train at kings cross, he was spotted by who ever, he will have stuck out like a sore thumb, it was a school day, he was dressed in slipknot teeshirt, he was not street wise, he did not realise the dangers lurking, the child is dead, neither is he andyroo, he was not having a love affair with someone older, i wish the child had just gone to school, god knows who took him, but he is well gone, his father tried to hang himself a few times after andy went missing, the poor man, who the police tried to pin it on, wasting time instead of looking for andy, the police took a full month before checking cctv, which had been taped over by that point, its been 14 years since he disappeared.
How would his father know that Andrew had no internet access? It sounds like his parents didn't have a clue what was going on his life. They didn't even realise that Andrew was not in the house until it was time for dinner. The poor kid was obviously depressed but it seems that no-one asked him what was wrong.
@@Anna-Jade yes I thought he might be depressed, the police contacted Sony, his psp had never connected to any WiFi, neither did he have a phone, they also said he never touched his sisters laptop, ive never read if the family had WiFi or not, I wish the lad had just gone to school, I hope this case is solved before I leave this earth
@@Anna-JadeThey checked his Xbox account, Sony account, home computer and school library computer for evidence and found nothing - he didn’t even have a cell phone so it would be hard for him to be groomed or meeting someone online. Public free Wi-fi was extremely rare in 2007 and very limited so he would have a hard time to use his PSP to communicate with the person and it probably would only be via some jailbreak to access chat rooms on the low quality PSP web browser app without Sony noticing. He had internet access, but clearly showed little interest in it and nothing shows he was chatting with people so frequently he would plan meetups.
It’s just weird that Andrew somehow would go to such lengths to scrub every trace of contact with the groomer in order to keep the meeting secret - but at the same time skip school and take all the consequences it provides which essentially would force him to admit to the meeting or where he was. There are significantly better ways of meeting people from online in secret without parents noticing, for example during the weekend and after school.
Yeah that is terrible the father was suicidal.
I mean looking at the case, he could have been hiding a phone from them, we all have to remember a groomer is very adapt at telling kids, hey don’t do this…. And manipulating. And if Andrew was gay he more than likely would have even further kept it hidden away because what would his Christian parents say? Sure, they said that’s alright but to a kid that might be much
Nadia was found 👌🏽
The excited music throughout it is sorta clashing.
I don't believe his parents had anything to do with it. Andrew has planned it. I think he had enough of school and planned this in his head over the 6 weeks holidays. I remember being 14 and thinking I could do anything without realising how dangerous the world was. And the fact he is seen on CCTV alone at kings cross completely dismisses his parents having anything to do with him going missing
It's pretty obvious his parents didn't have anything yo do with it.
I don’t think they had anything to do with it but I think perhaps there was unhappiness at home. It looks like he ran away to London.
children are so vulnerable especially in London where you have so many predators. unfortunately i fear the worst probably shortly after he arrived in the metropolis.
This doco was filmed 7 months after Andrew's disappearance. I noticed that his mother is already talking about him in the past tense. I thought that was unusual.
Absolutely agree
Yep i picked that up , she needs questioning
She can only talk about his past as she doesn't know about his whereabouts and present.
why does this show looks like its from 2004, not 2008
It’s British. Not an insult, I am too.
It’s so sad he’s part of my family shame I can never got to meet him 😞
Are you a relative of Andrew?
I believe he met someone at the university and they shared same interests for music he went to London for concert because he went back to get changed into slipnot t shirt usually people wear those type especially for concerts! The police should have investigated was there any type of concerts that week! And secondly he didn't get return ticket probably because he was offered lift home by that person! His dad said he wasn't Street smart and shy he probably believes everything that person said. Another theory is that he got lost in London and someone offered him lift home or help him find his way back and things escalated.. the police should have done more!! There's a lot of cameras in London!! For godsake he was seen sleeping on a bench that proves my point. He probably got lost there weren't maps on phones back then? My heart goes out to his family I keep thinking about them. And this poor lad!! He didn't run away
I have a similar feeling to you. He definitely was being different in the run up to him leaving and then when he came back from that uni trip he was apparently different, more jovial. I think it's possible an adult got their hooks in then and arranged to meet in London. As you say, his family say he wasn't street smart but he he pretended to leave for school, came back amd set his uniform up to look like he came home and got changed? Someone helped him come up with that. Those extra smart people don't think about stuff like that. I think he did think he was coming home though. I think he would have left a letter or took clothes or something if he didn't want to come back
@@44LillPuffin He must have been planning something big, perhaps a quick trip, I do wonder what led him to make such a risky action though? And the one way ticket meaning he didn’t plan on coming back, maybe he was afraid of what his family would think so it was sort of like a "act now, worry about it later" type of mindset? He must have been lost but was trying to search for someone for sure, I do hope he is alright to this day..
He had his psp and that had a pretty good gps. Also anyone would’ve helped him if he asked, unless they had bad intentions like many suggest
36:35 get his parents to work with an expert in voices and find out if it was him TALKING. Doncaster middle-class accent?
Doncaster middle class accent ? What are you about daft kid ?
Middle class ?
If you're not from the UK you may not know that accents vary a lot within the UK and not just by geographical location - for example, a middle-class person from Doncaster sounds different from a working-class person from Doncaster.
He met someone online who enticed him to London to see a band rehearse or something and he was promised a lift back, hence no return ticket. ticket. Probably arranged to meet him in McDonald's near King's Cross.
That’s false. he never spent any time online. The police already checked the school computers, library computers etc and checked with Sony and they confirmed he didn’t have any online access
@OneHundredPiplup he could have deleted his activity or used the computers at an Internet cafe in town hence him arriving home late after school.
@@paulfitzpatrick3090 Maybe… we’ll never know :’(
No the police checked with app provider no internet accounts
@LouiseSmith-sh6mo in 2007 you could set up a yahoo email without as much as a cell phone number. I know as l used to do it. Also as a journalist l wanted to be 100 percent sure that l couldn't be traced.
I believe he might of committed suicide or he’s being easy lead on by someone and they have taken him on board ever since 2008 . Worst thing is we may never know but while we’re still young and got technology around us let’s keep trying to find him
Two arrests have been made in connection with Andrew’s disappearance.
@@amandanegrete1306 nothing came of it
@@Thenorthsace I check YT, Google, FB all the time since the two arrests supposedly “connected to Andrew.”
I believe the arrests occurred last December/January.
The few articles I read said it could take 6 mos to a year to analyze all electronics belonging to the accused.
It’s going on a year now and I tend to agree with you.
Had the arrests led to any information on AG, I believe LE would have disclosed that by now.
@@amandanegrete1306they wouldn’t have released the information without solid evidence. They don’t do things like that lol
I first heard about Andrew on a documentary I actually think it might of been this one when it was aired on tv. I then remember seeing his picture on the milk bottles after they bought it back and I remember reading in a newspaper that his parents had redone his room after so many years.
Poor parents ... Never came home 😭
There's a UA-cam channel called that chapter that has done a episode about it. Apparently there's been some news of him being alive but it wasn't anything solid. Hope he's OK but it seems like he wouldn't be unfortunately
Hold on so why didn’t the school call the parents of Andrew if the school were wondering why isn’t he at school they would’ve called the parents to ask him. Why isn’t he at school?
The school did call. Unfortunately they left a voicemail on a wrong number. I just feel Andrew was let down with the phone call, missing/not working cctv etc. Also London has/had alot of predators operating, you can't help but wonder if Andrew fell victim.
Anymore missing live?
It seems Andrew deliberately knew he would be missing by buying a one way ticket. I am sure he will be found eventually alive or dead. someone will come across something eventually.
If I was going to disappear I wouldn't of left my PSP charger home and money though. No one can disappear without a trace.
Andrew really needs to be found but there is so much misinformation. Here are the facts confirmed by his dad. Andrew went to Lancaster uni to do a gifted and talented course a full year before his disappearance and NOT a month before.
He didn’t use the internet and if he did, with the lack of using computers he wouldn’t have had the technical skill to really cover his tracks other than deleting his history.
Andrew only walked hone once from school and NOT as a new routine.
The only legitimate witness sighting that seemed to match Andrew was in a nearby Pizza Hut in Covent Garden where he was still alone.
He carried his PSP with him and played on it whilst on the train. The PSP did not have connectivity to the internet and even if it did mobile websites weren’t really a thing back in those days and were basic at best. Trains did not really have WiFi during this time and if they did it was at a price.
Andrew apparently ‘lost’ a couple of mobile phones. Phones were cheaper back then however it is slightly suspicious that he managed to lose 2 of them.
Andrew left under his own volition and clearly wanted to buy extra time by making it seem as though he had gone to school or he didn’t want to appear out of place in his uniform and wanted to avoid suspicion.
It has been a long time since Andrew disappeared and I genuinely feel that he has left us. I do think he was groomed and under false pretences was asked to travel down to London which is far away enough and big enough to get lost in. What was he going to use the £200 to buy? One would think it was either going to be an expensive day out going to see something of interest OR the person that may have been involved had offered to sell him something of interest.
I really hope he gets found soon.
To me it sounds like he was possibly groomed by someone at the uni trip, they had more than a whole year to convince him to get on a train to london, maybe they gave him a phone, the pred could of convinced him to loose his phones to stop him from being traced he was found walking home from school a few days before he went missing, maybe he was using this as an opportunity to talk on the phone without anyone knowing
poor soul ..
I've seen many documentaries of the Andrew Gosden case. According to one of them, the police, instead of checking CCTV footage of the London vicinity for his whereabouts, they spent the beginning part of their investigation interrogating the parents in their home. That was pathetic because in any missing person case, the first couple of hours are the most crucial for the investigation, regarding police checking CCTV, asking neighbours, asking passersby, the family posting fliers, etc..
Bob straight to the point
Perfect 👍
The john iveson story is also quite sad
Not really he was a wrong un
There was someone claiming to be him on xbox live years ago apprently he was living with a man (his partner). This was years after he went missing . Probably bs thou
Oh wow that is interesting. Could be someone just making it up for attention.
Did anyone report it?
@@jonathan75801 think it was passed on to police
Why the past tense? 🙏
200k a year go missing in the UK?
Yes but most a found within 24 hours
Some Like Andrew are never found.@@Tom-uv7ry
Two farmers killed a man and disposed of his body because he was harassing one of them for money, a court heard.
John Iveson, 36, from Nantwich, disappeared in January 2007 but his body has never been found.
Paul Billington, 40, a pig farmer, from Rossett near Wrexham who is also Mr Iveson's brother-in-law, and Mark Done, 47, from Nantwich, deny murder.
The jury at Chester Crown Court heard Mr Billington owed Mr Iveson tens of thousands of pounds for a house.
5:37
He could of changed his name to be anonymous. I feel someone may know something.
Every parents nightmare. Bless them.
I've looked over alot of cases in my life and I can tell u that this case gives me chills it gave me chills bk then and it gives me chills now andrew had a pay as u go phone and possibly Internet at home he was directed to London by a speedophile who most likely shared interest in rock bands andrew liked the rock concert was simply the ruse weather andrew got to watch it we'll never know the crime happened bk in 2008 which I consider the Internets dark age
4 years
Sorry, not to sound off, but that kids parents are just weird... I'd have ran away too... I think there's a bit of denial on the dads part, if you know what I mean...?
Yeah his dad is 100% gay
nadia grant feb 2008is no where online
In 2007 i the day a 12 year old schoolboy when andrew was missing
*Andrew left home to get away from a situation.*
How do you know?
@@HolaBonjour-m1e I am not permitted by UA-cam to answer your question. Sorry.
@@Jean-rg4sp so in other words, you don’t actually know. Liar 🤥
@@HolaBonjour-m1e Quit the rudeness.
@@Jean-rg4sp you’re the one being rude, lying gets you nowhere
But later turned 13 after.
I can't put my finger on it, but I'm sensing that there's something a bit odd about Andrew's father's demeanour.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I feel he knows more than he's letting on.
Andrew's father did everything in his power to try and find his son.
@@skygazer6898
We are only seeing snapshots
But maybe 🤔
I assume he was nowhere near London at the time of the last CCTV sighting, or we'd know by now. Unfortunately the only odd demeanour is Andrew himself, which is what makes this case so difficult.
I think that until a person has gone through the exact same thing a parent goes through when their child has gone missing it's unfair to make any kind of comment about that person. Put yourself in Andrew's father's place, imagine it was your child that did something completely out of character & never came home & never saw them again and a complete stranger posting unsavoury comments & subtle hints online that you did something bad to your missing child. How would that make you feel? I suggest you think about that before you post hateful & unfounded comments that intentionally hurt & cause them unecessary pain & suffering.... Shame on you!
@@sarah5893
Hey, Sarah, cool down!!!
I never implied anything that you're implying I said, so don't attack me for your warped sense of mind.
Make sure you read the words before you jump to any false conclusions!!!
I remember Kevin saying on a podcast how he was a suspect in his son's disappearance and he tried to kill himself.