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Hope you don't, like, have to, like, talk a lot, like, in, like, court. That would, like, be a lot of like, LIKES! Not sure if they would LIKE that very much
@AfterPrisonShow, I would like to speak to this young man, if possible. I’m a preacher and I KNOW the prison system! I feel bad because there are many in prison with mental illness. Most are successful after they meet Jesus. If there is a way to get in contact with this young man please let me know.
This dude obviously has anger management issues and should be on meds. He will get more time in general pop because of anger outbursts. I would not want this lune tune as a bunkie.
Yeah he needs a mental health advocate to walk into court with him and help him through this .. if he has a short criminal history he shouldn't be facing time .
Our prison system is nothing but privatized institutions that really hate vacancy. His mental health is the least of their concern.. I feel for the kid. I just hope he gets the right judge.. 🙏 Our legal system is absolute bung bung.
True but if joe had pried, he already has comments that he instigated sht or uses other for content. So him trying to dig further may have just been bad rep for Joe.
I relate to this kid. All my criminal history stimmed from me being undiagnosed schizophrenic. Once I was diagnosed and medicated properly my life changed. Wish this guy luck
if you don’t mind, can you tell me some of the symptoms or issues you dealt with prior to your diagnosis that you look back on and go “yeah that makes sense”.
@@drakelessner3981im not original commenter but i do suffer with schizoaffective disorder, one of the ones that i just used to call "anger issues" when i was in highschool, I've thought alot about it and most of it comes from being confused at people's intentions, then my own head adds onto that and generates it's own "objective truth" (usually some utter bullshit, but my brain cant tell if i heard it from them, a close friend or if i had just made it up) this leads to more confusion which activates an incredibly strong flight or fight reflex. in high school id just equate it as anger, but nowadays i can see that i was just a very scared person in general.
@@drakelessner3981 Do you are hear voices?..like someones talking about you? . but you can;t see them?..ie they aren't there.... or a friend who isn;t there but you hear their voice? a stranger who might not have said anything but you think they said something?.... get help. but you need a doctor that lets you control ... ie no one knows what happening in your brain.. except you... you know...they don;t.. you want assistance .. not some idiot that thinks they can read your mind.. they can;t ....... ie dont let them control you. if they want too . find someone you wants to assist.. you with your probem...... ie .. did that work? no? try something else... ie help..assist etc..... once you know you have an issue.. it;s easy.. .. first time is the worst cause you don;t know you have a problem,,,... so once you know .. your cool.. but your are a bit of a lame duck...ie when you hear something.. etc you don't react.. you put it down to being a bit paranoid...didn;t happen etc... makes you more at risk if actually is happening... just move and get yourself into a good 'space" place again... easy as bud.. your aok
Joe, you’re still doing your thing. I remember when we were at Indian Creek. You were painting murals and working in the rec department. Shout Coach Ammon! I was working there too. Went from making 45 cents an hour to having a successful UA-cam. Congrats man.
Unfortunately, that is, often, not the case. The kid's not going to summer camp, with a bunch of kids he doesn't know, after all. But, if the prosecutor, and judge, are sane, and not pushing personal (or political) agendas, he may get a very light sentence, and court ordered psychological treatment. I hope he gets help. He seems like a decent enough guy. And, schizophrenia is frequently treatable, with counseling and meds.
Absolutely, same thing happened to me. Jail does fuckin suck but it was manageable in my experience and I definitely feel like I learned my lesson and won’t be a dumbass anymore cause it sucks!!
Joe I can see you’re really working hard at this Channel. Dude I’ve been with APS since the beginning and I’d love to see you succeed at bringing this back. Good luck brother 🙏 ❤️
This has to be one of my favorite youtube videos i’ve seen in a while. Haven’t seen a video from this channel in probably 5+ years but it’s great to have seen Joe turn into such a professional and still genuine guy. Great interview.
Hey bro, Joe’s advice is really good. My friends brother suffered from the same diagnosis…i remember seeing him walking in circles in the middle of the night so i stopped the car…he could remember who I was and told me he wasn’t feeling well and needed a hug. Of course i obliged. I hope you are able to manage those “thoughts” that wont really go away but they need to be pushed to the back. Let your logical side take control. Good luck
I have ocd and a lot of people don’t know ocd comes with impulsive compulsive and intrusive thought that can be very evil… I feel that with ocd I know it’s my own thoughts ant not voices like most schizophrenic people do
I was facing some time for dealing, and smuggling a couple years ago, I had an entire year on pre trial, where I started getting more involved in my church, did a lot of community service on my own, started working out again and got in great shape, never missed a drug test and had a lot of my family come to my sentencing date and by the time that came around the judge ended up telling me that she didn’t want to ruin the good work I had been doing and that she felt comfortable giving me a year of house arrest and 6 months of 40 hour weeks community service. So whoever is in a similar situation pre trial COUNTS. Fix your life BEFORE you go to prison. ** and pray, people don’t realize how much that helps. People love a comeback story, so don’t let your mistakes define you, don’t wallow in self pity, just put one foot in front of the other and let your comeback define you.
Joe is an amazing interviewer. I like that he was up front with the young man and not filling his head with possible false hope. Telling him to show remorse and explaining his mental condition to the court was stand up advice. "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best." Great interview!!!!!!!!
Joe, this is gold! You have to keep doing this. You can help so many people who are facing time. You are amazing at guiding so many people and can offer so much hope to the younger generation. I have been a loyal fan for 7 years, and I'm not going anywhere. ❤
Usually schizos arent aggressive, they just retaliate to what they come up in their head(like someone trying to hurt him and he just confronts them) and stalking charge is prolly the guaranteed charge because they are paranoid af, they stalk alot.
@@zonloe3268 No state is good. But Missouri is a tough state between the inner city politics and gangs and culture of St. Louis and Kansas City which both have two of the highest murder rates and violent crime rates in the country, and then you have the backwoods/white boy politics because its also a country/hillbilly state. I say this as a native of Missouri but has lived in both Missouri and Kansas. I would choose to do time in Kansas 10 times out of 10.
This kid is a very tough interview, I don't think anyone could interview this kid, he's all over the place, one of those guys that talk in circles, the guy did a good job talking to him and keeping him on point.
My best friend developed schizophrenia when we were 17-18. His parents looked to the police and legal system to deal with him, his father was already a sheriffs deputy, instead of getting him the help he needed. It made things so much worse. It won't necessarily be that way for this kid but going to jail isn't going to help him; it could make it alot worse.
@@danefuentes3877 Not for schizophrenia, jail will make it worse immeasurably so. He should have been committed to a mental institution and get the help he needs over a prison. Prison makes insanity go real bad real fast.
@@garhent I like to be positive. Your negativity is kind of sad. You really think NOBODY with schizo- will EVER be able to turn their life around after prison? I believe in this guy and your negativity is kinda messed up.
from what I could find, part of the legal definition is "The act of harassing another person in a threatening or aggressive manner causing fear" if he was telling the stepsister he's going to do that to her or something similar I guess they could make it stick.
@29:38, Big Red Flag, his family WON’T send him any money while incarcerated. Unless his family is dirt, broke, poor, it’s a BIG red flag there if they don’t send money. He MUST have pissed off everyone or done something so bad to them where they wouldn’t send him a few dollars here and there. It’s natural for a family member to feel some kind of empathy for him and his situation and send him a little something to be a little comfortable. The cats I met in prison, who’s family members chose to banish them were the type type of people who burned everyone, who only cared about themselves, who were ONCE on top of the world and shatted on everyone, and are now incarcerated and family, friends, etc, now totally turned their backs on them….
Sounds like there's more to his story than they're mentioning. Idk why he'd be put in with the chomos unless he was one? However, I only think that because, of the stalking charge too. He may be 25 with schizophrenia, but he is fully responsible and accountable for his own actions, especially since he harmed his little sister.
Not true at all. Some parents just suck and don't care. Not everyone has or knows or is close to their extended family. And some people are just lonely people with no real friends.
Yeah. Obviously they get meds too in prison if they have the order. But sometimes they will go easy on the sentence if he will agree to intensive therapy and such
@@sundaychamberlain228 just meds is not it, schizophrenia can sometimes be managed and the next day completely explode in your face with a new episode. The meds can just stop working on any given day. It's a never ending cycle of treatment. This is why so many end up on the street doing drugs and eventually overdosing. People like this need help.
He needs to get on meds before court for sure. Letter from psych, all that. He's 23, I didn't hear anything about him having a job, which they will probably wonder about.. if his mental state prevents him from working, he needs a professional to substantiate that.
why? Every humble person thinks they are just a normal person. Nothing wrong with that response. What did you expect him to say? That he's extraordinary?
@@jamalnasir5648 his demeanor, look on his face, tone of his voice, and the way he would go on to talk through this episode, at least the majority of it, says it all. A lot of what he said was short, a lot of his answers where very short or didn't make sense,or he didn't elaborate on them and Joe really had to hold his hand through it. When Joe asked why he reached out and what he expected Joe to be able to help him out with, he basically sat there "........oh,uh...." He had no purpose or goal,seemingly, and Joe really had to coax it out of him, even putting words in his mouth at times to move it forward. Reminded me of girls back in the day who wanted to talk on the phone, and they'd call, and they basically had nothing to say, but they liked me so they just kinda wanted... listen to me breathe, I guess ? 😂😅
Actually it's kind of refreshing, most young people nowadays have an extremely, EXTREMELY inflated view of their own uniqueness/'specialness' and are truly nowhere near as interesting as they think they are/have been led to believe by the echo chambers they all frequent
Hoping for the best David. I’m sorry you’re having to go through all this! Thank you Joe for giving David your knowledge of what he may encounter. If he does end up serving time, I’d like to be a Pen Pal. Please keep us updated with his case. Again thank you Joe! I’ve always said your got a big heart and you’ve shown it again! Hugs and Love ❤ Anjay
Calm and reasonable huh? Yet hes looking at doing time for his anger issues, stalking charges and mental health issues. Ppl need to stop being soo gullible. This kid wasn't very genuine in telling his story.
@@Lonegunmanonthegrassyknoll being kind and giving some encouraging words is much better than being nasty. Trying to get a negative response. Nice encouraging comments will go way further with a person in a tough spot than spewing hate and negativity!
Haven't seen this channel in a bit. This got my attention. I haven't seen any of the post prison guys actually consult someone facing prison on a live interview format. Cool concept 👍
Something is very wrong with his story. Schizophrenia is not something to toss around easily, nor does it equate to violence. There's nothing about this interview that would convince me to reduce his accountability. Man up, do your time, stop blaming an illness (which if you do have), you obviously have the capabilities to overcome.
My advice to this young man if he gets off. He needs to immediately get himself into inpatient care. No relationships, no drugs, just concentrate on handling himself. Because as he gets older this will get even worse.
Schizophrenia is an awful illness. They don't know what they're doing at the time. They need more research & help because being locked up is the usual outcome. Sad.
@@openranks4519no he Doesn’t need prison he needs help a community who knows how to handle his outburst people who understand him and can help him he really needs Jesus he can heal all illnesses
Joe I’ve been rocking with you for many years now. And practically every time you do an interview with someone new. Im totally into it, would honestly love to see you do them way more. It would be really cool to see some international former prisoner interviews. Just whoever you can get is usually fascinating stuff. Please do more interviews if you can brother. You’re a great dude Joe if even 10% of people would formally were in prison. We’re more like you, you really care and try to teach others from your mistakes… well anyway we would live in a better world, as far as reoffenders and them lacking positive direction. And just going straight back for dumb shit. You’re the man Joe God bless you and your family brother! - Justin 🙏❤️✝️
Joe, I just seen a clip from ABC Action News about a man who was just released after 21 years, he had gotten a life sentence for loaning his car keys to a friend. His name is, RYAN HOLLE. I just thought you may want to talk to him for a possible video.
Now this is the type of content I can get used to. I knew I followed you for a reason. It’s because I knew this is where you’d eventually be. I can see a bright future for you, Joe.
@@Jb-sb1pu I have I remember his older videos and interviews they are great. But this one was well put together and you can tell Joe has came along way
I'm so glad I didn't have to spend any actual time in jail after the cops found 2 loaded guns in my car! The cop that took me to jail got a call from his supervisor while they were taking my booking photo and his supervisor told him to bring me back home, which I was SOOOOO grateful for! I spent 2 years going to court over this and I just had my case dismissed on July 10th. All I had to do was take a gun safety course (which was kind of a bullshit class because it didn't teach any actual firearm safety) and do 10 hours of community service. I'm just glad it's all over now and that I don't have to go to court anymore!
As a person who did time 15 years ago, I can tell you, intake is going to be startling. Its going to be an experience youve probably never imagined. Dont let it get to you. You'll get thru that and once youre in a cell shit will calm down.
My only advice for David that I can think of is: be honest but be careful with how he says things. Like when he brought up the bit where he was scaring his kid stepsister, I could easily see how another inmate might take it the wrong way and presume he was attacking her with a bat. Word spreads quickly, and if the inmate heard it wrong, it could spiral out of control. Not saying it'd happen, but thought I'd put that out there.
Awesome vid, Joe. Looks like u really helped this dude a bit... actually, probably a lot more than u or we even realize. I know just talkin to u gave him some relief. Good luck to him... & I hope he can get on some medication or some type of "treatment" that'll help his ailment(s) & make his life easier and better-- both while in prison AND OF COURSE when he gets out!! ✌🏿 ❤
A couple of things I have questions about. First off why would he get a stalking charge for going crazy in the garage. It sounds more like he did something to step sis and that’s why he went back. Then he ends up with the chomos so that goes back to my first point. Lastly, why would he ask for advice if he was locked up already. Seems weird but with other offenses I would say he going for at least 1 year. Good luck man
I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this format and I hope you do more pieces like this in the future. The advice given today by Joe seemed really solid and I wish this kid the best with this case
Sorry I havent been on for some time! But should be back on my feet and following APS religiously again! Love ur channel Joe! I am so happy to see this video got decent views!
So he doesnt drink or smoke... Most REAL crazies don't either...n he has a stalking charge which the story he mentioned makes no sense at all, those actions dont equal a stalking charge....like nah this homie all the way fried...but atleast he had the balls and heart to show us all his flaws alot more that 90% of people are willing todo so i commend you for that and hope you get the help you need.
so people that dont drink are crazy? That makes no sense I don’t drink because my dads an alcoholic and I don’t want to end up like him so I choose to not drink so does that make me crazy then?
Gott change you life style to change your mindset. Even something as simple as running every day, working out, learning a new skill, taking up a new hobbie, etc
Missouri prisons are rough, I did some time there 6 years ago for a drug charge. It was hard being an outsider and not knowing anybody but I got through it as a lone wolf. Hope your charges are OK cause they will check your paperwork upon entry. Respect will take you a long way is best advice I can give you and don't draw attention to yourself like those other knuckleheads in there.
When someone gets moved from units multiple times in the county, that's a problem inmate. Something he left out in his story. And you can't be throwing no tantrums.
I really enjoyed this video. I think you gave this young man wonderful advice as he possibly goes into the prison system. I hope he will let us follow his story
I’m also facing some adult time myself, been watching for awhile. Got caught up in something at 15, originally in the juvenile court system but a few months after i got out of juvenile detention they bumped the charges to adult court. I tripped up again and got put on house arrest. Been on it since beginning of junior year and i’ve just graduated high school. Currently 17 and turning 18 in a couple of weeks. Really stresses me and my mom out.
It's not for the judge to decide. His lawyer would be requesting an evaluation or the state will be requesting one if this guy has any issues. Anger issues is not a mental health issue
As someone from Missouri, who was in the system. The state likes to do a lot of 120 shocks and 120 treatments rather you have drug charges or not because they get a lot of federal kick back for people being in the program. Especially first timers. But if you do go in, being from the area of Missouri where you’re from, be ready for certain gangs to recruit you.
Man I’m so glad I got recommended this Joe, I watched one of your first videos five years ago when I was still in high school! you told the story of why you were locked up for 5 years, I’ll never forget you mentioning that lady who faked being in labor to get you guys out of a police stop LOL
All you can do is become one of them but become the best inmate. Learn some stuff get big. Eat every chance you get. God bless you man it’s never easy knowing your time is up as a free man
Man he oozes nervous af right now and hes not even covicted. He better figure it out. Even if your ready its a lottery, wher eyou end up who you end up with and who works there etc, things you cant control. I think he got some good advise stay causious and vigilante.
He really isn't taking any responsibility whatsoever, it's all "crappy things that happened to me." Mental illness or not, he needs to take responsibility for his actions and seek treatment.
He seems like such a sweet heart. My son is struggling with mental health right now he argued with his neighbor cops came he got pink slipped it’s heart breaking. His dad just died in march. My son needs medication but listening to lawyers they say anger management will help a lot when he goes to court
Damn bro, David you seem hella cool and humble. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not awesome. Some of those medical experts and the alike aren’t always correct! Keep at it brother! You got this!
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seriously amen to that
Hope you don't, like, have to, like, talk a lot, like, in, like, court. That would, like, be a lot of like, LIKES! Not sure if they would LIKE that very much
@AfterPrisonShow, I would like to speak to this young man, if possible. I’m a preacher and I KNOW the prison system! I feel bad because there are many in prison with mental illness. Most are successful after they meet Jesus. If there is a way to get in contact with this young man please let me know.
used to be people were embarrassed about going to prison - let’s hope we get back to that someday.
I like the way dude listens. Fully engaged, patient and doesn't interrupt.
How men listen when they're actually learning something
This dude obviously has anger management issues and should be on meds.
He will get more time in general pop because of anger outbursts.
I would not want this lune tune as a bunkie.
His names joe
@scottadcock550 just like jeff dahma and sons of sam interviews 🤣
Bro is scared, I would be listening attentively too.
Schizophrenia is awful, he needs treatment, not prison. I hope the judge and jury will see that too and help him instead of just locking him away.
I would recommend David to get a therapist asap, so that he can say in court that he is working on it
Yeah he needs a mental health advocate to walk into court with him and help him through this .. if he has a short criminal history he shouldn't be facing time .
Our "justice" system is dogshit.
Our prison system is nothing but privatized institutions that really hate vacancy. His mental health is the least of their concern.. I feel for the kid. I just hope he gets the right judge.. 🙏 Our legal system is absolute bung bung.
It gets worse. I have family members that unalive themselves with this. Meds and inpatient care.
How does smashing something in your own garage with a bat turn into a STALKING charge?! Dude didn’t share the real story….
Bingo!
Ya Joe should have questioned it but ya he's not going to prison they tryna scare him
yes i agree, I think he might be abusive towards that step sister
I mean IF he is being straight, then his step dad is kind of a POS, but with being put in with chomos, I'm kind of wondering what really happened ...
True but if joe had pried, he already has comments that he instigated sht or uses other for content. So him trying to dig further may have just been bad rep for Joe.
I relate to this kid. All my criminal history stimmed from me being undiagnosed schizophrenic. Once I was diagnosed and medicated properly my life changed. Wish this guy luck
if you don’t mind, can you tell me some of the symptoms or issues you dealt with prior to your diagnosis that you look back on and go “yeah that makes sense”.
@@drakelessner3981im not original commenter but i do suffer with schizoaffective disorder, one of the ones that i just used to call "anger issues" when i was in highschool, I've thought alot about it and most of it comes from being confused at people's intentions, then my own head adds onto that and generates it's own "objective truth" (usually some utter bullshit, but my brain cant tell if i heard it from them, a close friend or if i had just made it up) this leads to more confusion which activates an incredibly strong flight or fight reflex. in high school id just equate it as anger, but nowadays i can see that i was just a very scared person in general.
@@drakelessner3981Also curious
@@drakelessner3981 Do you are hear voices?..like someones talking about you? . but you can;t see them?..ie they aren't there.... or a friend who isn;t there but you hear their voice? a stranger who might not have said anything but you think they said something?.... get help. but you need a doctor that lets you control ... ie no one knows what happening in your brain.. except you... you know...they don;t.. you want assistance .. not some idiot that thinks they can read your mind.. they can;t ....... ie dont let them control you. if they want too . find someone you wants to assist.. you with your probem...... ie .. did that work? no? try something else... ie help..assist etc..... once you know you have an issue.. it;s easy.. .. first time is the worst cause you don;t know you have a problem,,,... so once you know .. your cool.. but your are a bit of a lame duck...ie when you hear something.. etc you don't react.. you put it down to being a bit paranoid...didn;t happen etc... makes you more at risk if actually is happening... just move and get yourself into a good 'space" place again... easy as bud.. your aok
@@drakelessner3981if you hear voices in your head and feel like your being watched all the time then you are a schizo
Joe, you’re still doing your thing. I remember when we were at Indian Creek. You were painting murals and working in the rec department. Shout Coach Ammon! I was working there too. Went from making 45 cents an hour to having a successful UA-cam. Congrats man.
Worrying about what’s to come is way more terrifying than actually doing what’s coming to you.
Unfortunately, that is, often, not the case. The kid's not going to summer camp, with a bunch of kids he doesn't know, after all. But, if the prosecutor, and judge, are sane, and not pushing personal (or political) agendas, he may get a very light sentence, and court ordered psychological treatment. I hope he gets help. He seems like a decent enough guy. And, schizophrenia is frequently treatable, with counseling and meds.
Yup facing a possible life sentence on drug charges was terrifying 😳
been there done that very true
Yup.
Absolutely, same thing happened to me. Jail does fuckin suck but it was manageable in my experience and I definitely feel like I learned my lesson and won’t be a dumbass anymore cause it sucks!!
Joe I can see you’re really working hard at this Channel. Dude I’ve been with APS since the beginning and I’d love to see you succeed at bringing this back. Good luck brother 🙏 ❤️
Me too
This has to be one of my favorite youtube videos i’ve seen in a while. Haven’t seen a video from this channel in probably 5+ years but it’s great to have seen Joe turn into such a professional and still genuine guy. Great interview.
Ik same it's crazy I remember when he first started
Hey bro, Joe’s advice is really good. My friends brother suffered from the same diagnosis…i remember seeing him walking in circles in the middle of the night so i stopped the car…he could remember who I was and told me he wasn’t feeling well and needed a hug. Of course i obliged. I hope you are able to manage those “thoughts” that wont really go away but they need to be pushed to the back. Let your logical side take control. Good luck
I have ocd and a lot of people don’t know ocd comes with impulsive compulsive and intrusive thought that can be very evil… I feel that with ocd I know it’s my own thoughts ant not voices like most schizophrenic people do
I was facing some time for dealing, and smuggling a couple years ago, I had an entire year on pre trial, where I started getting more involved in my church, did a lot of community service on my own, started working out again and got in great shape, never missed a drug test and had a lot of my family come to my sentencing date and by the time that came around the judge ended up telling me that she didn’t want to ruin the good work I had been doing and that she felt comfortable giving me a year of house arrest and 6 months of 40 hour weeks community service. So whoever is in a similar situation pre trial COUNTS. Fix your life BEFORE you go to prison.
** and pray, people don’t realize how much that helps. People love a comeback story, so don’t let your mistakes define you, don’t wallow in self pity, just put one foot in front of the other and let your comeback define you.
Joe is an amazing interviewer. I like that he was up front with the young man and not filling his head with possible false hope. Telling him to show remorse and explaining his mental condition to the court was stand up advice. "Prepare for the worst and hope for the best." Great interview!!!!!!!!
He really is. He handled this so well.
Joe, this is gold! You have to keep doing this. You can help so many people who are facing time. You are amazing at guiding so many people and can offer so much hope to the younger generation. I have been a loyal fan for 7 years, and I'm not going anywhere. ❤
Hell yes. This is beautiful
1000% agree with this !!!!
I wish the young man all the best. Hopefully he can get the help he needs to be able to move forward and put this all behind him.
Prayers for this young man.
He didn't make it
@@Pedroismlol wym
Please keep us updated on this young man. Thank you for doing this for him.
Dude isn’t going to prison. At best he’ll get 6 months county time and 5 years probation.
We can only hope
he has priors. he probably will do prison time.
@@haidenmorganhe is a convicted stalker. he probably should go to jail.
@@Jimothy-723 yeah I uh, I didn't make it to that part yet when I commented. Not a good look for sure
Nah he going prison for life
I feel for this dude.
Mental health issues suck and almost out of your control completely
Usually schizos arent aggressive, they just retaliate to what they come up in their head(like someone trying to hurt him and he just confronts them) and stalking charge is prolly the guaranteed charge because they are paranoid af, they stalk alot.
I mean, you can always take your meds, that part is in your control
Meds don’t always work especially anti depressants
When the illness Is literally telling you that the meds are poison its not exactly your fault lmao, don't breed bud do the world a favor
I think these interviews are by far your best content, this is what I'd like to see more of.
Praying he is able to receive the help he needs 🙏
Joe, man, I love that APS is back it's like you never left. Missouri ? Not the best state to be locked up in damn at least he seems big.
Plot Twist: He's 4'6" lol jkjk
What’s the best state to be locked up in? I’d say none of them are the best state.
@@zonloe3268 No state is good. But Missouri is a tough state between the inner city politics and gangs and culture of St. Louis and Kansas City which both have two of the highest murder rates and violent crime rates in the country, and then you have the backwoods/white boy politics because its also a country/hillbilly state. I say this as a native of Missouri but has lived in both Missouri and Kansas. I would choose to do time in Kansas 10 times out of 10.
If you had a choice you would want to go to somewhere like Memphis Tennessee @@zonloe3268
Lord please have mercy with this young man.. No prison. He needs help , not locked up..
Lord, please save this young man for any potential booty bandits. Thank you lord, A MENS.
This kid is a very tough interview, I don't think anyone could interview this kid, he's all over the place, one of those guys that talk in circles, the guy did a good job talking to him and keeping him on point.
Schizophrenia so yeah
I think he'll get a year of probation and an anger management class and maybe batters intervention
Most likely
Depends on how bad the injuries were to the other party
😮😢😢😢😢😢
Yeah mostly likely.
I agree
So good to see you’re still here helping man. What a great inspiration you and the homies are, thank you!
This is dope. Thank you for helping these folks
I am praying for this young man and fellow Missourian.
My best friend developed schizophrenia when we were 17-18. His parents looked to the police and legal system to deal with him, his father was already a sheriffs deputy, instead of getting him the help he needed. It made things so much worse. It won't necessarily be that way for this kid but going to jail isn't going to help him; it could make it alot worse.
Or... hear me out... it will help him. Eh? EH!?
@@danefuentes3877 Not for schizophrenia, jail will make it worse immeasurably so. He should have been committed to a mental institution and get the help he needs over a prison. Prison makes insanity go real bad real fast.
@@danefuentes3877nah, jail makes most people worse, especially those that struggle with mental health
@@garhent I like to be positive. Your negativity is kind of sad. You really think NOBODY with schizo- will EVER be able to turn their life around after prison? I believe in this guy and your negativity is kinda messed up.
Our prisons don't help anyone.
Damn brother. I started watching you when you started UA-cam. I fell off completely but glad to see you pop back up on my feed!
Stalking charge on his stepsister for breaking a baseball bat in the garage.... No way 😮
Yea that part seemed a lil sus, I hope this is true and not like that juggalo guy Joe interviewed years back and was later revealed as all lies.
@@815eastsideJtown420lol, I totally forgot about that dude! Joker is a fitting name for that idiot!
Some pieces to this puzzle are missing...
Yea I think their family weren’t thinking as much when they decided what to report him on 😂 I don’t get it lol
from what I could find, part of the legal definition is "The act of harassing another person in a threatening or aggressive manner causing fear" if he was telling the stepsister he's going to do that to her or something similar I guess they could make it stick.
@29:38, Big Red Flag, his family WON’T send him any money while incarcerated. Unless his family is dirt, broke, poor, it’s a BIG red flag there if they don’t send money. He MUST have pissed off everyone or done something so bad to them where they wouldn’t send him a few dollars here and there. It’s natural for a family member to feel some kind of empathy for him and his situation and send him a little something to be a little comfortable. The cats I met in prison, who’s family members chose to banish them were the type type of people who burned everyone, who only cared about themselves, who were ONCE on top of the world and shatted on everyone, and are now incarcerated and family, friends, etc, now totally turned their backs on them….
Sounds like there's more to his story than they're mentioning. Idk why he'd be put in with the chomos unless he was one? However, I only think that because, of the stalking charge too. He may be 25 with schizophrenia, but he is fully responsible and accountable for his own actions, especially since he harmed his little sister.
@@sarahm.1632Agreed with everything you stated.👌🏽
Narc parents don’t do 💩for you.
Not true at all. Some parents just suck and don't care. Not everyone has or knows or is close to their extended family. And some people are just lonely people with no real friends.
This poor kid, Hes gonna have to get his anger under control. Also he needs to take his meds. My opinion is he will probably get probation.
Yeah. Obviously they get meds too in prison if they have the order. But sometimes they will go easy on the sentence if he will agree to intensive therapy and such
@@sundaychamberlain228 just meds is not it, schizophrenia can sometimes be managed and the next day completely explode in your face with a new episode. The meds can just stop working on any given day.
It's a never ending cycle of treatment.
This is why so many end up on the street doing drugs and eventually overdosing.
People like this need help.
I went thru this with my Uncle.... The meds do not help.. they just made it to where he wasn't able to function at all
I went thru this with my Uncle.... The meds do not help.. they just made it to where he wasn't able to function at all
He needs to get on meds before court for sure. Letter from psych, all that. He's 23, I didn't hear anything about him having a job, which they will probably wonder about.. if his mental state prevents him from working, he needs a professional to substantiate that.
Joe gave this kid some real game.
Salute grubb mudd
"tell me about yourself"
"There not much to me really" damn that's a sad reply
@@NintenDub he looks very deprest
I felt that bit
why? Every humble person thinks they are just a normal person. Nothing wrong with that response. What did you expect him to say? That he's extraordinary?
@@jamalnasir5648 his demeanor, look on his face, tone of his voice, and the way he would go on to talk through this episode, at least the majority of it, says it all. A lot of what he said was short, a lot of his answers where very short or didn't make sense,or he didn't elaborate on them and Joe really had to hold his hand through it. When Joe asked why he reached out and what he expected Joe to be able to help him out with, he basically sat there "........oh,uh...." He had no purpose or goal,seemingly, and Joe really had to coax it out of him, even putting words in his mouth at times to move it forward. Reminded me of girls back in the day who wanted to talk on the phone, and they'd call, and they basically had nothing to say, but they liked me so they just kinda wanted... listen to me breathe, I guess ? 😂😅
Actually it's kind of refreshing, most young people nowadays have an extremely, EXTREMELY inflated view of their own uniqueness/'specialness' and are truly nowhere near as interesting as they think they are/have been led to believe by the echo chambers they all frequent
Hoping for the best David. I’m sorry you’re having to go through all this! Thank you Joe for giving David your knowledge of what he may encounter. If he does end up serving time, I’d like to be a Pen Pal. Please keep us updated with his case. Again thank you Joe! I’ve always said your got a big heart and you’ve shown it again! Hugs and Love ❤ Anjay
David seams like a calm reasonable guy. Best of luck hope things get better.
Calm and reasonable huh? Yet hes looking at doing time for his anger issues, stalking charges and mental health issues. Ppl need to stop being soo gullible. This kid wasn't very genuine in telling his story.
@@Lonegunmanonthegrassyknoll being kind and giving some encouraging words is much better than being nasty. Trying to get a negative response. Nice encouraging comments will go way further with a person in a tough spot than spewing hate and negativity!
@@Lonegunmanonthegrassyknollyea I caught the same vibe yo
Calm people can snap the worst, don’t let a calm demeanor on a UA-cam video fool you
Totally not crazy
Haven't seen this channel in a bit. This got my attention. I haven't seen any of the post prison guys actually consult someone facing prison on a live interview format. Cool concept 👍
This young man has been through some rough times in his life i hope they go easy on him ..
man he looks a lot like me and how i looked in my 20’s that’s weird. pray for strength and that something good comes from this
Dude is not telling the whole story.
Exactly
Whatever you don’t know that! Our system is fu**** they rather throw people with mental help in jail then helping them to begin with
He froze up on the substance abuse topic too
Something is very wrong with his story. Schizophrenia is not something to toss around easily, nor does it equate to violence.
There's nothing about this interview that would convince me to reduce his accountability. Man up, do your time, stop blaming an illness (which if you do have), you obviously have the capabilities to overcome.
Thought that right when he brought up the stalking charge lmao
That's good on you Joe taking time to talk with this young guy and try to counsel him before court.
My advice to this young man if he gets off. He needs to immediately get himself into inpatient care. No relationships, no drugs, just concentrate on handling himself. Because as he gets older this will get even worse.
I just hope this young man is reading comments and sees people genuinely do care about him and his situation.
Schizophrenia is an awful illness. They don't know what they're doing at the time. They need more research & help because being locked up is the usual outcome. Sad.
Needs to be in mental health prison facility
@@openranks4519does that even exist? Far as im aware there are prisons, and mental facilities. None that are both
@@openranks4519no he Doesn’t need prison he needs help a community who knows how to handle his outburst people who understand him and can help him he really needs Jesus he can heal all illnesses
Joe I’ve been rocking with you for many years now. And practically every time you do an interview with someone new. Im totally into it, would honestly love to see you do them way more. It would be really cool to see some international former prisoner interviews. Just whoever you can get is usually fascinating stuff. Please do more interviews if you can brother. You’re a great dude Joe if even 10% of people would formally were in prison. We’re more like you, you really care and try to teach others from your mistakes… well anyway we would live in a better world, as far as reoffenders and them lacking positive direction. And just going straight back for dumb shit. You’re the man Joe God bless you and your family brother! - Justin 🙏❤️✝️
Joe, I just seen a clip from ABC Action News about a man who was just released after 21 years, he had gotten a life sentence for loaning his car keys to a friend.
His name is, RYAN HOLLE. I just thought you may want to talk to him for a possible video.
You dont get 21 yrs for you letting someone just use your car lol
@@tgg2025oh yes you do!
I like these kind of interviews. Havent watched this channel in a long time but this one was good.
Now this is the type of content I can get used to. I knew I followed you for a reason. It’s because I knew this is where you’d eventually be. I can see a bright future for you, Joe.
He has way better interviews that are years old lmao go back on his channel
@@Jb-sb1pu I have I remember his older videos and interviews they are great. But this one was well put together and you can tell Joe has came along way
Poor kid.. hope he gets the help he needs ..
I'm so glad I didn't have to spend any actual time in jail after the cops found 2 loaded guns in my car! The cop that took me to jail got a call from his supervisor while they were taking my booking photo and his supervisor told him to bring me back home, which I was SOOOOO grateful for! I spent 2 years going to court over this and I just had my case dismissed on July 10th. All I had to do was take a gun safety course (which was kind of a bullshit class because it didn't teach any actual firearm safety) and do 10 hours of community service. I'm just glad it's all over now and that I don't have to go to court anymore!
I love your show Joe 'm so glad that you're back you bring me joy and help me!
Hopefully David will get blessed up in the courtroom!
Magic isn't real, no magic fairy is coming to save him.
😂😂😂 now he’s scared but was acting like a bad ass 😂😂😂😂 gtfoh
@@Stonecoldjunkiewhen was he acting? He’s just a humble kid
As a person who did time 15 years ago, I can tell you, intake is going to be startling. Its going to be an experience youve probably never imagined. Dont let it get to you. You'll get thru that and once youre in a cell shit will calm down.
My only advice for David that I can think of is: be honest but be careful with how he says things. Like when he brought up the bit where he was scaring his kid stepsister, I could easily see how another inmate might take it the wrong way and presume he was attacking her with a bat. Word spreads quickly, and if the inmate heard it wrong, it could spiral out of control.
Not saying it'd happen, but thought I'd put that out there.
Exactly 🤔 choose your words carefully…
Awesome vid, Joe. Looks like u really helped this dude a bit... actually, probably a lot more than u or we even realize. I know just talkin to u gave him some relief.
Good luck to him... & I hope he can get on some medication or some type of "treatment" that'll help his ailment(s) & make his life easier and better-- both while in prison AND OF COURSE when he gets out!! ✌🏿 ❤
Don't give interviews before trial and sentencing.
He didn’t incriminate himself, but I agree with your point. It’s always a bad idea to discuss an open case.
Bingo
A couple of things I have questions about. First off why would he get a stalking charge for going crazy in the garage. It sounds more like he did something to step sis and that’s why he went back. Then he ends up with the chomos so that goes back to my first point. Lastly, why would he ask for advice if he was locked up already. Seems weird but with other offenses I would say he going for at least 1 year. Good luck man
Jail and prison are two different things
I think he violated a protective order
I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this format and I hope you do more pieces like this in the future. The advice given today by Joe seemed really solid and I wish this kid the best with this case
Its funny how nothing seems his fault. Everything happens *to* him. I hope he learns about personal accountability
Society needs the lesson first.
@@stanleymcvay9283 individuals need the lesson first .
Sorry I havent been on for some time! But should be back on my feet and following APS religiously again! Love ur channel Joe! I am so happy to see this video got decent views!
Smashing a bat on the floor in a garage isnt gonna get a stalking charge
If anything ! Would be some form of destruction of property
Exactly what I thought lmao he’s hiding something
Haven't had a video from you in my feed for like nearly a year man! Good seeing these videos again.
So he doesnt drink or smoke... Most REAL crazies don't either...n he has a stalking charge which the story he mentioned makes no sense at all, those actions dont equal a stalking charge....like nah this homie all the way fried...but atleast he had the balls and heart to show us all his flaws alot more that 90% of people are willing todo so i commend you for that and hope you get the help you need.
so people that dont drink are crazy? That makes no sense I don’t drink because my dads an alcoholic and I don’t want to end up like him so I choose to not drink so does that make me crazy then?
Thats what I was gonna say 😂@@tygod2410
Glad to see you still are making videos APS!
At least he’s not locked up. It was the worst feeling ever having charges being in jail not knowing what your sentence was going to be.😅
Good luck, David. I hope everything works out for you, man. Keep your head up.
I’m pretty much in the same boat as that kid if I get another assault charge, I’m looking at two years in doc
You have time to change your life!
so dont get one
Aint no reason to fight randos bro just keep your head down and grind out life and go stealth mode and bad people and problems fade away.
Gott change you life style to change your mindset. Even something as simple as running every day, working out, learning a new skill, taking up a new hobbie, etc
Better off to try to move , even a 15-20 mins distance away from your local spot is what changed it around for everyone I know
Missouri prisons are rough, I did some time there 6 years ago for a drug charge. It was hard being an outsider and not knowing anybody but I got through it as a lone wolf. Hope your charges are OK cause they will check your paperwork upon entry. Respect will take you a long way is best advice I can give you and don't draw attention to yourself like those other knuckleheads in there.
When someone gets moved from units multiple times in the county, that's a problem inmate. Something he left out in his story. And you can't be throwing no tantrums.
Also the part where he said he was transferred to another county's jail and coincidentally some aryans came after him as soon as he got there.
I really enjoyed this video. I think you gave this young man wonderful advice as he possibly goes into the prison system. I hope he will let us follow his story
Rocking w aps, tell him to grow a beard and get a few tattoos. It would be cool to keep up w him in prison, sorry i had to edit... i hope he doesnt go
I’m also facing some adult time myself, been watching for awhile. Got caught up in something at 15, originally in the juvenile court system but a few months after i got out of juvenile detention they bumped the charges to adult court. I tripped up again and got put on house arrest. Been on it since beginning of junior year and i’ve just graduated high school. Currently 17 and turning 18 in a couple of weeks. Really stresses me and my mom out.
Damn tht sucks bro
I wish you luck. Gotta turn things around real quick, being in and out of prison is not the way to livd.
He needs to keep extra copies of his jacket always because they gonna want to see all his charges
Hopefully Joe gave him some advice on how to hoop his paperwork! 😉
@@mikemike0000 ask the human filing cabinet wes Watson about hooping🤣😂🤣
This channel has come so far keep it up love you. I haven’t been on this channel in a while, but definitely gonna start watching again.
Missouri is horrible when it comes to mental health. The judge won't care what this man is going through.
It's not for the judge to decide. His lawyer would be requesting an evaluation or the state will be requesting one if this guy has any issues. Anger issues is not a mental health issue
@@xdoubt5487 And you would be correct. However, I actually have seen more often than you might think, judges will deny that evaluation.
@@PrinceMagnum Yep usually on no credible grounds. I love how everyone will never question a defense lawyer.
@@xdoubt5487 True that.
My heart goes out to the guy.
As someone from Missouri, who was in the system. The state likes to do a lot of 120 shocks and 120 treatments rather you have drug charges or not because they get a lot of federal kick back for people being in the program. Especially first timers.
But if you do go in, being from the area of Missouri where you’re from, be ready for certain gangs to recruit you.
I pray for the best & the help he needs!!!
This poor kid isn't gonna do well he doesn't need jail he needs mental health help
Man I’m so glad I got recommended this Joe, I watched one of your first videos five years ago when I was still in high school! you told the story of why you were locked up for 5 years, I’ll never forget you mentioning that lady who faked being in labor to get you guys out of a police stop LOL
I wanna see this dudes papers. Something seems odd.
All you can do is become one of them but become the best inmate. Learn some stuff get big. Eat every chance you get. God bless you man it’s never easy knowing your time is up as a free man
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He magically was diagnosed with schizophrenia when he turned 18. Sounds like excuses
Good luck! Stay strong. You have got this!👍
How does beating a baseball nat on the garage floor equal stalking?!😮 that's crazy
Man I hate suffering from mental issues. He reminds me of myself and now I'm 38 😱. Just keep on moving forward.
He will do less than a year max. My opinion is he only gets a year or two of probation.
He’s back! Great show! Wish you all the best!
You should do some more of these it was very entertaining to watch.
Im old enough to remember when Ol Joe used to look like Robin Thicke and kicked ass. Now he looks like Jeremy Corbell and is too stressed to handle it
Dang man 1.3 million. This channel blew up. Well done.
No more Tom ?
Man he oozes nervous af right now and hes not even covicted. He better figure it out. Even if your ready its a lottery, wher eyou end up who you end up with and who works there etc, things you cant control. I think he got some good advise stay causious and vigilante.
He really isn't taking any responsibility whatsoever, it's all "crappy things that happened to me." Mental illness or not, he needs to take responsibility for his actions and seek treatment.
He seems like such a sweet heart. My son is struggling with mental health right now he argued with his neighbor cops came he got pink slipped it’s heart breaking. His dad just died in march. My son needs medication but listening to lawyers they say anger management will help a lot when he goes to court
If he needs money for commissary could you help me connect to make that happen
Kind of you to offer to help!
@@Official_ry_Nirvana you the real MVP!
Joes such a wholesome good dude i swear hes one of only 3 prison content creators i can watch.
We need to start giving more people help instead of throwing them in jail and prison for every single offense someone committed.
sounds like a kid throwing a fit
Damn bro, David you seem hella cool and humble. Don’t let anyone tell you you’re not awesome. Some of those medical experts and the alike aren’t always correct! Keep at it brother! You got this!