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This spin is the same spin that a basketball player would use .But I was taught to parry the punch strike the eyes or throat then go into the Ghosting Step and stay very close to the body of your opponent. The ninja were very famous for this technique
Yes, I think it's more effective if you use a strike. Everyone knows a spinning hammerfist or elbow works on a resisting opponent this movement is no different. It's just that the majority of people out there aren't going to move like this, even most martial artists. So therefore they doubt it.
@@bricktea3645 is your reply even directed at me ? Because I didn't say anything about a parry but the comment above did. But anyways even if someone was to throw a wild swinging punch you just duck under the strike instead of parrying it. And is there a rule book that says nobody on the street throws straight punches ? You'd be surprised. What if your attacker has done some boxing before ? That is always possible. Always assume the guy on the street might have some experience whether some boxing or maybe he knows some wrestling.
Great technique. I love all your work. I also work to point out that: this is just an "reference maneuver" so it doesn't actually have to be done as show. It's more of an example of what can be done, given the circumstances. Thanks for the share. Salute
Showing your back in any technique where your opponent isn't already incapacitated is always a terrible idea. I understand the purpose of the move, but it is WAY too elaborated. Good self-defense is all about simplicity. Personally, I'd see several different ways to imrpove this technique without having to roll on your opponent's arm and catch his head.
The turning of the back wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't a big gap in time between the evasion and the next point of contact. I'd hit the arm or body and then spin behind, or do something to disrupt their balance/posture before/during that maneuver. Otherwise, no need to spin, just take advantage of the superior angle. This move is more flash than substance, the way it is shown. It works if the attacker does what you want them too, but fails miserably if, why you are doing your impression of the Tasmanian Devil cartoon character, they turn to follow, duck or carry on in a straight line.
Noah Tellin the spin is not pointless at all. Its about evasion and confusion of your opponent.I think those who think its pointless is because like too many cage match watchers, they want to engage in a fight and dont understand ninjutsu's principle is about evasion and deception, and minimizing the confrontation.1st of all you spin so fast and right into the head snapping back grab that they shouldn't have to do much of anything. 2nd if they did try to follow you with a back fist, all you have to do is grab the arm as it swings back and take them down using their turn momentum against them. I showed that in my video " ninjutsu for the novice.
Shinobi Science I'm tired of people assuming everything has to do with cage fights, This comparison is silly, my opinion is that of a Traditional Jiu-Jutsu practicioner where my masters taught me to save as many moves as possible and avoid making unnecessary motions. That's not cage fight science, it's plain combat and body mechanic science and also nothing more than common sense.
Black MetalKnight14 Keep in mind that combat logic applies for all Martial Arts regardless of names or origin. eleminating useless motions increases technique efficiency whether it's Krav Maga or Boxing.
This move makes sense in context to the art and history of ninjutsu. If you're being a stealthy ninja but someone manages to spot you this would be a great move. Consider a night time operation inside of a building. This move would quickly disorient an opponent if you came at them from out of the shadows as they approached where you were hiding to investigate. In the context of a ninja mission the point would be to evade the opponent quickly so as not to arouse more suspicion with the excess noise a full on sparring match would create. Disorient the opponent, subdue them completely if possible without bringing more attention to yourself and then continue on. If your cover is totally blown subdue them quickly with a move like this and run like hell because they're going to try to capture you and torture you to death for information you have.
That was so awesome! I like that one! I just have to learn to also do it to a right handed punch, because I think most people immediately throw punches with their right arm first.
The one thing traditional martial arts NEVER understand is that they practice in the most unrealistic settings. No one punches like this gentleman does. No one telegraphs. No one stands with outstretched arm. Catching or snatching the punching arm is impossible, unless your opponent is helping you.
you can intercept the punch, if IF you are fast thinker, and fast of movement, ie fast twitch muscles NOT lifting muscles(in this regard, smaller people are faster than larger people)
The fact that you label all traditional martial arts under that opinion shows your true lack of knowledge about fighting. Its not the art its the fighter and how he applies what he knows along with how well he performs his technique, you sound rather uneducated making a statement like that.
you are right, but there is a way, you have to know how to damage the opponent arm or leg before grabbing his arm head , leg or at least use a hit or tehnique that can incapacitate the opponet for 1 sec maybe 2, but even so might not work against well trained fighters.
@vyperxii the intent of the spin that puts you behind the person is the purpose of getting behind the person. So its not wasted at all. The point is to avoid getting into a brawl. And getting the behind the person wont leave you vulnerable as you may have noticed we didnt just stand behind him . We got behind him with a continuous motion and take down, There is hardly anytime for a counter.
I do appreciate the philosophy of removing oneself from the situation as soon as possible. Nothing good can come from an unexpected fight. Keep up the good work.
joebeast15 kick boxing, BJJ, I recently started studying Goju ryu and taiqi/chi kung just over a year ago.. but my main goal is to become a healer however contradictory and funny as that sounds, I want to specialize in sports related injuries.
This is horrible. Deplorable. Once you acquire a dominant angle on the outside why would you wanted make this uneconomical spin to the outside? BTW: Who attacks on the street with a jab? And if they know how to jab why would they jab and leave their arm out? Demonstration purposes you could go slower, but to that extent is absurd. Even before he asked him to slow down, that jab was unrealistically slow. Geez.
Jose C" And if they know how to jab why would they jab and leave their arm out". So true I'm not one to call any move in a martial art bull crap but I totally agree with you there. This one just looks so unnecessary and like it wouldnt work in an actual fight. If you're outside of his guard there are more simple and quicker things to do...
Outside the dojo, that attacker would likely be turning by the time you had spun around and regained sight of them or actual contact. In the taijutsu training I've seen, the realistic attack would have been used or at least mentioned, and the defender would have been doing something to disrupt the attacker's structure and distract while maintaining contact to be aware of what the attacker is doing while spinning around behind.
"Spinning not only confuses and is faster, but it creates momentum for the takedown to snap the head violently causing a knockout, at the very least, or death at the most. I agree with this technique WHOLE heartedly. Always keep your opponent off balance and guessing until you put them to sleep." Lot's of unspoken ifs there. If they haven't moved, if they get confused, if your own balance isn't off, if you don't trip while spinning off the flat mats, if they don't strike backwards as you have your back turned, if their head is still there for you to grab....
the point to the spin that i can see, is the fluid motion. circular motions are much more fluid and efficient so your body doesnt have to stop and go another direction. Also, that spin will give your hands more momentum for pulling on the head making the head pull that much easier, faster, and to the opponent confusing, all during the while keeping your body in a fluid motion
Your body become centrifugal, and in a direction arcing behind your opponent but spinning. While spinning, your body is turning while your ankles are crossed while inertia is being deployed to a certain area. Your mass is going to take you outwards and you're trying to focus your attention on the inside, towards the axis. My suggestion would be for you to try the spin and then just try a simple sidestep as well and see what work with more efficient movement.
There was one shadow move where I duct under arm twist and grab arm forearm grab let go the spin clockwise backing up and behind openent like . Err to the right and away some from person then forward behind and knock behind knees while arm around neck or chopping shoulder near neck
In the spin, there is an elbow strike to the back of the head/neck, kidney and etc. There is also a sweep in it as well. And there could be a broken arm too.This is based off the "defender" not being the aggressor. Good job...
a truly powerful strike will start with motion generated at the planted foot, this allows you to generate energy with little or even no movement of the arm.
@carcrazymofo: The purpose to learning the art is to make it second nature. no one naturally thinks of these movements in midfight. The point is to train your body to move, to calm your mind so you can think clearly and so you have an option. If you're in a situation where you need this movement your likely better off having tried something than nothing.
The attacker's hands are up guarding his head. During and after an attack the opponent will usually continue to keep that guard. If you are in the 'line of fire' the attacker has fully committed to a movement. In the final, slow demonstration there was no wrist control as in the previous ones. While the spin does create momentum for the take-down, in my humble opinion the least amount of movements/steps is the most effective means of self defense.
Full spin is just for show. I am from Wado-Ryu. This style is known for Tai Sabaki. Confronted with a straight attack it isn't even necessary to move in 45. Normally attacks happen too fast for a technique to be executed like shown. An attacker is not going to wait for you to finish your 360 dance. Best option is what you mentioned or the boxing slip and slide.
@beeberhole69 1. I don't own anything with a TapOut logo. The gear I do have is labeled Everlast. 2. I referenced MMA because of its efficient use of multiple styles of fighting that have proved their effectiveness. 3. You changed the direction of the discussion from one of technique to a discussion of an entire system of fighting. I think Ninjutsu is great but what is most appealing about it to me is the stealth aspect which is one of the reasons it is so effective in my mind.
The "flashy" roll is to quickly get behind your opponent and still be able to end facing him in a smooth controlled manner. Yes, shuffling feet or stepping a couple times can get you there, but this move is about speed to "disappear", like he said.
To answer multiple users question...The "SPIN" creates momentum ,which in turn results in energy transfer, which results in an opponents head hitting the ground ALOT harder,than if there was no spin..A roller coaster loop is a good physical example..I am amazed that more Aikidoa didnt answer this question..Remember the 180° pivot ? OSU!
I have to agree with you, the flashy stuff is unnecessary as it leaves you open to counter attacks. You are also correct when you say that ninpo is more then just about fighting, it;s about living at peace with everything that is around you.
In any martial art or even gymnastics, it is a well known fact the body follows the head, so, with the stance of the attacker be left foot lead, it would be easier and just as effective to side step right while reaching for the head, step back, using the leverage of the your foot position, the weight of the person's head, and the fulcrum of their left foot forward stance. Of course if you've got your hands at their head, a slap to the ear, eye, throat is already available. Thanks for hearing me.
Spinning not only confuses and is faster, but it creates momentum for the takedown to snap the head violently causing a knockout, at the very least, or death at the most. I agree with this technique WHOLE heartedly. Always keep your opponent off balance and guessing until you put them to sleep.
One thing I also noticed is the spin is stopped. If you were to utilize the spin's inertia, encouraging the attacker's backward motion through the use of centrifugal force, then the spin wouldn't be stopped, but, as you are attacking him, you would need to hook the head or neck in some way to utilize the energy used with the spin. In the video, it shows him spinning, stop, grab, then step back with the head slam. I agree with the idea of the attack, but the spin seems like a disadvantage.
i can say this after studying Taijutsu for 6 yrs i joined an MMA gym and studied at both dojo for another 3 yrs...in that time i had fights, in rings, for money after my first yr in the MMA dojo (so 2 yrs of ring fighting)...there were soooo many things that i learned in Taijutsu that gave me the edge over far more seasoned MMA guys in Ring Work. ive used similar Ghost techniques to this in Ring before though, especially in leg sweep throws...i used a cross step vs the spin, cuz I like stability
I've been noticing the comments about the extra spin move that most find pointless, and I don't know whether or not it was the trainers intent, but if you think about it, by properly timing the moment you grab the head, you can use the spin as a supplier of speed so that you may add more force as you 'snap' the head. That would most likely require very precise timing from the individual performing it and like most have said it seems easier to just skip that part for the sake of effectiveness.
The original technique was used with Shuko Hand Claws, and not meant to disable but to counter and kill.. I like how its being incorporated for self defense. GJ :) One thing though, look at the opposers feet to see which is used for balance and which is used for control knowing that will help you in knowing which side the attacker will strike from.
You are 100% correct when you would face your back to uke when hes at full striking potential. This here is not the case. You just blocked a strike -> uke is off balance and in no position to strike again, you keep your weight against ukes arm all the time -> you step behind him with one legg (uke doesnt know or see this) then in a split second you perform what looks like a fancy spin but actually is a well performed motion while aware that ukes back is turned to you & vanish in thin air.
It seems to be a matter of telegraphing the move, knowing what's coming in and stepping forward and around, giving the 'superspeed' illusion (2 forces moving towards another at the same time). Very fascinating to see a move designed around this concept.
I understand that completely. I'm familiar with MMA/Juijutsu techniques as well, but its one thing to practice, practice, practice on something and another to see a flaw and not call it out for the sake common sense, efficiency, or preventing something that can take you out. The time to remove the mistake is before the fight, not during. As I said in a later thread, each person is different and different styles suit different people. To each their own, just my opinion. (cont)
That's not what I meant, by twisting the chin, you put the pressure on the neck. But you know nak muay can resist to really hard traction on the neck, and judokas use their chin to block chokes and when the chin is well placed your whole body can't take it away of your chest. And again, why spinning ? you just give time to the opponent to strike back, move back or defend. As it has been said before a elbow can strike quickly.
We train in a farm sometimes, but not an american farm, one from Colombia where they're lots of mountains and vegetation, we love those, we go there on saturdays :) Our sensei is like the best sensei (to me).
@Lillymill not just ninjutsu but filipino kali, japanese jujitsu, wing chun krav magga (if taught properly) would all work in street situations because that's what they are designed for.. same reason a grappler can grapple. in the video the brother is slowing down and telegraphing so you can see what he's doing in a real fight there will be no pauses and it would be very fast... lastly I have seen martial arts like this used in real life and it wasn't as pretty but it wasn't meant to be
Excellent demo also of use against multiple opponents, once behind one of them we have as hield protecting us, and cen be thrown in diirection of ther next opponent , etc. More to it, the two handed blocking is another hidden aspect of perfection, refer to the late Yoshimi soke presentation in Italy, around 2015.Best regards.Paul, 68
I train in Martial arts and experimented with the grabbing and tilting and pulling back the head. it works considering when you tilt the head you are taking their balance and changkng their view and what tbey can see. It works
@squishynoodle22 You got it right. the spin is not pointless at all. Its about evasion and confusion of your opponent.I think those who think its pointless is because like too many cage match watchers, they want to engage in a fight and dont understand ninjutsu's principle is about evasion and deception, and minimizing the confrontation.
The circle isn't as bad as it may seem. It's similar in some ways to what football quarterbacks do. For one thing it gives him a 360 view. In bagua they have all sorts of crazy stuff like this. Part of it is because he is moving forward and you are maintaining contact with him, and therefore sensitivity, while still moving. Another part of it is that the friction of your spin would make it difficult for him to stop his movement! My bet is if you saw Hatsumi do this it would look amazing...
Tai sabaki is about moving yourself off the line of attack. You can see it in many martial arts systems. It really changes the way you block, if you have to block at all. because when you execute a block, its not just about blocking, its about moving yourself into a beneficial position whilst blocking, making the enemy vulnerable to you. Good example :)
with that statement I tried to direct you to the importance of good kamae, awareness of your surroundings and natural flowing nagare when doing this move. Most poorly trained people claim to have knowledge but infact they only know the static step/step moves based on pre-made situations which in real combat/defense circumstances only lead to defeat. I actually never wanted to debate this as THE technique to use i merely wanted to point out the potential it has in certain situations.
This man is a master at this i kould tell,ive mugged people rob an beat up nd i kould tel u i wouldent want to kross sum one with skills like this,true master,i change my ways now an would inkurage anyone to train 4 the unexpected with qiuck reactions like these.
This can work in some scenarios. It's very hard to hold onto someone when they spin. A practitioner with a wrestling background might use something like this to hit a Peterson Roll when grabbed, or use it in conjunction with an arm drag to take the back. Hating on this move is silly, because it's using human kinetics. As part of a chain of techniques this can be extremely effective as a setup.
Surely i know sometimes a fight may involve you without you being aware as it starts but as a martial artist you take responsibility in your actions, where you are, who you're with. If you get into a fight unwillingly you have some bad luck or you have failed to understand that you are in control of where you are and what you do and how you treat others. These often looked over ideas will land someone in a fight they didn't want but in the end all you can blame is yourself
@comzero141..im do not study this art but i am an Aikido student. I would say that the complete spin creates momentum for the final throw..It starts with the opponents energy and taking into a spin which will increase and then transfer it to the final throw. Done full speed this appears it could result in a devastating blow when the head hits the ground.
Sensei, I just wanted to say -your movements are true and good. It's nice to see. All attacks based in reality in practice are dependent on good uké-ship. The reality of this technique working is dependent on speed and surprise as you had mentioned several times throughout. You show the possibility of adding more koppojutsu throughout, which may only be necessary if the uké were cognizant of your intentions.
And with the yoko aruki you cannot make up for the distance you need to move behind him without uke seeing you do it. Look at the kamae and nagare and how uke is positioned during the spin. If you are truely trained you can see what i mean. I too say never face your back to uke but this is a "onorthodox" move as he clearly mentions during the explanation -> uke never knows or sees you are facing your back to him (if you do it correctly ofcourse) Nagare is key dont forget that.
@SanatanaDharmaOM It's not about swiftness or smoothness. It's about effectiveness. Outside the dojo, people don't just wait around until you do a 360 around them to grab them from behind. I know it's cool and it looks nice but it doesn't work like that. That's why they're demonstrating it this way - opponent attacks, freezes, waits out...
By that point, he is already within his "seikuken".(zone of combat). The safest you can be from your opponent during hand to hand combat is either extremely close, or 6 feet away. A backwards elbow wouldnt connect right from this stance.
@Postscript624 It's for disabling the person, if you move behind them and slam their head into the ground/stones whatever it will knock them out, a quick and stealthy way to take someone out without having to kill them... However if you break their arm it will start up a fuss and they will be scream/crying and think about what ninjas did, if your current enemy alerts everyone else in the area of your presence by yelling you didn't do a very good job...
thats a good question, i would have cross stepped through, i guess if he wanted to use the left elbow to the back of the head with the spin that may be ok. You can tell though by the way he postures and speaks that he seems like he would like putting more energy into his style
I understand how the technique is supposed to work, i was simply stating that there are more efficient ways of moving towards the opponents back while at the same time avoiding the hook or whatever the person decides to throw, but to each his own, every fighting style is different.
Kungfu systems pretty much all have grappling. Mostly standing grappling, called Chi-Na. Theres also takedowns, throws, wrestling..etc.. called Shuai jiao. Pressure point strikes, explosive power (fajin) & more. Karate came from Chinese teaching Japanese hard style kungfu.. changed from 'china hand' to 'empty hand'. However, its the soft internal arts, which are some of the most effective & deadly. They also are the most difficult to learn & master.
(The first half went missing...sorry)* I agree that MMA is incredible for developing all around body burst, power, strength, flexibility and acute timing of precision strikes...the only second to match that would be Olympic gymnastics which is what GSP had used at one point of his regimen, keeping close to the idea of muscle confusion, shaking up his work outs every month into a new one.
I'm inclined to agree. Without the twirl, and hence without the unnecessary movement, spinning, letting go of the opponent and potentially losing balance, I think the technique could me modified to achieve the takedown he is demonstrating.
- MMA, Fight Combatives, enjoy fighting kickboxing, grappling, wrestling matches, indulge in Aikido, Kali and other esoteric arts...I don't see it as a confusion of arts, I see as being human and learning that there is not such thing as different styles- I have two arms, two legs, one head, one body...I can do what they can do, all I need is dedication to learn it, time to train in it and an open mind to accept all their philsophies and still make my own. :) Peace bro, :)
1:30 Hands are down and the footwork is anticipatory. Not to mention the demo partner just pauses there with his hand out while the spin move is completed.
"The optimist sees the rose and not its thorns; the pessimist stares at the thorns, oblivious to the rose." The instructor avoided a head on attack, moving quickly towards the back of the opponent, and temporarily disabling him, and then escape. I like it.
@Ticky21 noo it's actually really quick to do, you can also grab their arm and pull it a little as you move in behind them to speed it up and stop them turning. The only thing you should be careful about is getting an elbow to the face from their other arm.
:-) you are right the video itself is not that much of an example. I was trying to explain the kamae and nagare used to perform the what looks like a dancing move spin.
@Lillymill You must not have seen all of our videos. We do have footage of some randori. See the video " Ninjutsu: NO LARPING. Also see our latest video" Knife Conflict Combat". Also go to Karim1950 and see footage of more randori from our dojos.
i could see losing contact being an issue in the spin if you simply bounced off the attackers strike. perhaps to avoid spinning off him try to practice pushing up and into the attacker to not only redirect but to capitalize on them being extended and offbalance. you can achieve the push by elevating your arm after you get on the outside of the strike and lowering your shoulder so as to spin "into" and behind instead of off. then again, if purely for self defense, deflect and run. fight over
This is an awesome technique. Hat's off to the SuubUrbanNInja! It's about body movement, body position, sensitivity. This can be done in a fraction of second (when properly trained). Remember the Ninja was evasive (this technique requires zero MUSCLE Strength). I remember from my BJJ training a terse Brazilian accent "no muscle, no muscle - use technique, position, leverage." and BJJ is a sport, this Art was designed to kill silently.
@gomergilligan You are right about it. Against quick boxing jabs you can't do much, and you can't apply this technique for sure. But, if you face boxer or any person who knows how to fight, the smartest is to step back and keep stepping back when jabs are thrown (unless you want to box). The hope is that attacking person will after some time loose patience and try to knock you down with hard punch with steping forward and giving you therefore energy you need from him to perform this technique.
@crzybo86 a punch isn't just a punch mate, and mma in itself is not a martial art its a combination of skills which can be used within mma competition, some mma fighters have different backgrounds..bouncers have support and generally are prepared for a fight and are bigger than the people they're fighting , this is for people who are NOT in that position eg a lawyer or banker getting jumped on his way to a car.. many soldiers use ninjutsu techniques ..
Yes you're right, but in football, if someone is coming at and trying to grab your body, and tackle you, which can be like a fight, the spinning technique can help, which is why I said it's a good thing to add, it can't hurt.
This technique would work against an attacker who is slower,maybe bigger or just to committed with his punch.I would rather have block strike,then circle around for the take down.Diffrent technique for diffrent size of people.And this one here is going to be place along side with everything other technique I picked up along the way.Thank you.
@Lillymill that being said lyoto machida used tai sabaki footwork against mma opponents for years with great success before losing (as all great fighters do.) and had the best defence in the ufc at one point never even losing a round.. he also used traditional style striking sweeps and take downs from karate do judo and sumo.. that aside bjj and kickboxing do little good when you've been jumped in an alley in the rain by three or four guys
@JRMtronica I respect your opinion, i see these comments all the time. Their are 1000 other things the sensei could of done, but he is breaking down a technique that needs to be taught which may work for someone. In a bar you see a bouncer having issues with a patron if he is good at self defense you will see him locking the guy up before the guy gets to go for another swing the guy may still be trying to get free but he is less effective. Multiply opponents would be different again.
At the begginng I entered to train ninjutsu because I wanted to fight, now I want to continue learning actually to avoid fighting, the real thing is that you need disipline, and auto-control... Respect for the cultures and nature, and of course other human beings. My sensei has thought me that, and we don't do that flashy stuff.
@darthclone7 Possible. When exicuted right even the most simple techniques prove to be utmost usefull. Try making your own moves out of the more complicated ones. THAT is also rewarding
it is truly a very effective counter and it does work,keep in mind that most of us martial arts enthusiasts kno 9 out of 10 fights that involve an opponent knowing a specific tecnique will not expext this from a street fighter
As far as a choosing to do a side kick or roundhouse, fighting is not something people always choose to do, but is done in a matter of self defense. You train to prepare for the eventuality that you can protect yourself or loved ones, unless you're training for a sport. In which case, the mentality is different. Either way, in sports, the only time I've seen people successfully show their back is during a very powerful, over balanced round house kick that requires them to circle about.
I like this, i came here expecting some laughable garbage move and found a technique that is almost identcal to something we do in my art of kuntao. respect to you brother.
I like it kind of aikido esque, in the way you don't flat out try to block the punch but use the opportunity to redirect your opponent and gain an opening in same move. for the people wondering about the practicality of this type of technique, imagine some drunk brute wants to punch u at a bar, this is something that could be effective. not only avoid getting hit, but end the fight without striking (could end up with charges with a closed fist strike).
@distorted1one Not at all. 1st of all you spin so fast and right into the head snapping back grab that they shouldn't have to do much of anything. 2nd if they did try to follow you with a back fist, all you have to do is grab the arm as it swings back and take them down using their turn momentum against them. I showed that in my video " ninjutsu for the novice.
@emilianocarra Possibly, but the majority of people you come across wouldn't know what was going on or what to do in that situation. Martial art fights don't have 'rules'. tournaments and matches do, but an actual life-or-death (not duel/match) fight has no rules
Good video , I think this is like you say for a more advanced practitioner. I recommend all others check out the novice videos. For all of those who says this won't work against a trained fighter are sadly mistaken. Trained fighters train for all situations but, this is a very confusing movement. I have personally done a similar movement to a trained fighter and they were bewildered. Everything is about technique, believing and trusting your art (if it is an effective art), and execution. For e
@UrSoMeanBoss yes, i dont know martial arts. but at start (when they fight fast) the contrincant makes only a hit and he doesnt move. sorry for my bad english im not english
This spin is the same spin that a basketball player would use .But I was taught to parry the punch strike the eyes or throat then go into the Ghosting Step and stay very close to the body of your opponent. The ninja were very famous for this technique
Yes, I think it's more effective if you use a strike. Everyone knows a spinning hammerfist or elbow works on a resisting opponent this movement is no different. It's just that the majority of people out there aren't going to move like this, even most martial artists. So therefore they doubt it.
@@punisher7772people don't do straight punches so it's not likely that u will even parry it
@@bricktea3645 is your reply even directed at me ? Because I didn't say anything about a parry but the comment above did.
But anyways even if someone was to throw a wild swinging punch you just duck under the strike instead of parrying it. And is there a rule book that says nobody on the street throws straight punches ? You'd be surprised. What if your attacker has done some boxing before ? That is always possible. Always assume the guy on the street might have some experience whether some boxing or maybe he knows some wrestling.
Great technique. I love all your work. I also work to point out that: this is just an "reference maneuver" so it doesn't actually have to be done as show. It's more of an example of what can be done, given the circumstances. Thanks for the share. Salute
WHOA!!!!! Where did he go!!!!!!!
@rey024 because the purpose is not to actually engage the person in a fight. Its ninjutsu stealth and evasion.
Showing your back in any technique where your opponent isn't already incapacitated is always a terrible idea.
I understand the purpose of the move, but it is WAY too elaborated. Good self-defense is all about simplicity. Personally, I'd see several different ways to imrpove this technique without having to roll on your opponent's arm and catch his head.
The turning of the back wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't a big gap in time between the evasion and the next point of contact. I'd hit the arm or body and then spin behind, or do something to disrupt their balance/posture before/during that maneuver. Otherwise, no need to spin, just take advantage of the superior angle. This move is more flash than substance, the way it is shown. It works if the attacker does what you want them too, but fails miserably if, why you are doing your impression of the Tasmanian Devil cartoon character, they turn to follow, duck or carry on in a straight line.
Noah Tellin the spin is not pointless at all. Its about evasion and confusion of your opponent.I think those who think its pointless is because like too many cage match watchers, they want to engage in a fight and dont understand ninjutsu's principle is about evasion and deception, and minimizing the confrontation.1st of all you spin so fast and right into the head snapping back grab that they shouldn't have to do much of anything. 2nd if they did try to follow you with a back fist, all you have to do is grab the arm as it swings back and take them down using their turn momentum against them. I showed that in my video " ninjutsu for the novice.
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I'm tired of people assuming everything has to do with cage fights, This comparison is silly, my opinion is that of a Traditional Jiu-Jutsu practicioner where my masters taught me to save as many moves as possible and avoid making unnecessary motions. That's not cage fight science, it's plain combat and body mechanic science and also nothing more than common sense.
irregularzero Keep In Mind that this is Ninjutsu, not Jiu-jutsu.
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Keep in mind that combat logic applies for all Martial Arts regardless of names or origin. eleminating useless motions increases technique efficiency whether it's Krav Maga or Boxing.
bagwa like movement.. watch the backfist! Great stuff
This move makes sense in context to the art and history of ninjutsu. If you're being a stealthy ninja but someone manages to spot you this would be a great move. Consider a night time operation inside of a building. This move would quickly disorient an opponent if you came at them from out of the shadows as they approached where you were hiding to investigate. In the context of a ninja mission the point would be to evade the opponent quickly so as not to arouse more suspicion with the excess noise a full on sparring match would create. Disorient the opponent, subdue them completely if possible without bringing more attention to yourself and then continue on. If your cover is totally blown subdue them quickly with a move like this and run like hell because they're going to try to capture you and torture you to death for information you have.
That was so awesome! I like that one! I just have to learn to also do it to a right handed punch, because I think most people immediately throw punches with their right arm first.
What is with the camera you guys are using? It is like you are using a potatoe battery with a lens.
The one thing traditional martial arts NEVER understand is that they practice in the most unrealistic settings. No one punches like this gentleman does. No one telegraphs. No one stands with outstretched arm. Catching or snatching the punching arm is impossible, unless your opponent is helping you.
you must NOT know about sticky hands! or intercept the punch, or blocking!
you can intercept the punch, if IF you are fast thinker, and fast of movement, ie fast twitch muscles NOT lifting muscles(in this regard, smaller people are faster than larger people)
if u master a art completey u can respond to anything its all about the practioner
The fact that you label all traditional martial arts under that opinion shows your true lack of knowledge about fighting. Its not the art its the fighter and how he applies what he knows along with how well he performs his technique, you sound rather uneducated making a statement like that.
you are right, but there is a way, you have to know how to damage the opponent arm or leg before grabbing his arm head , leg or at least use a hit or tehnique that can incapacitate the opponet for 1 sec maybe 2, but even so might not work against well trained fighters.
@vyperxii the intent of the spin that puts you behind the person is the purpose of getting behind the person. So its not wasted at all. The point is to avoid getting into a brawl. And getting the behind the person wont leave you vulnerable as you may have noticed we didnt just stand behind him . We got behind him with a continuous motion and take down, There is hardly anytime for a counter.
I do appreciate the philosophy of removing oneself from the situation as soon as possible. Nothing good can come from an unexpected fight. Keep up the good work.
This would never work with a resisting opponent, sorry.
you can't resist someone pulling your head backwards lmao... sorry.
Thats not what I mean,, pretty obvious you have never really trained before
How ignorant are you? I've been training for just over 8 year... not that it matters, you're a fool for trying to attack my character
Trained what if I may ask?
joebeast15 kick boxing, BJJ, I recently started studying Goju ryu and taiqi/chi kung just over a year ago.. but my main goal is to become a healer however contradictory and funny as that sounds, I want to specialize in sports related injuries.
This is horrible. Deplorable. Once you acquire a dominant angle on the outside why would you wanted make this uneconomical spin to the outside? BTW: Who attacks on the street with a jab? And if they know how to jab why would they jab and leave their arm out? Demonstration purposes you could go slower, but to that extent is absurd. Even before he asked him to slow down, that jab was unrealistically slow. Geez.
Quite a few people would attack with a jab. But you are quite right that if they did that, they wouldn't leave it extended or just stand there.
Jose C" And if they know how to jab why would they jab and leave their arm out". So true I'm not one to call any move in a martial art bull crap but I totally agree with you there. This one just looks so unnecessary and like it wouldnt work in an actual fight. If you're outside of his guard there are more simple and quicker things to do...
Most ppl do ...lol
Outside the dojo, that attacker would likely be turning by the time you had spun around and regained sight of them or actual contact. In the taijutsu training I've seen, the realistic attack would have been used or at least mentioned, and the defender would have been doing something to disrupt the attacker's structure and distract while maintaining contact to be aware of what the attacker is doing while spinning around behind.
"Spinning not only confuses and is faster, but it creates momentum for the takedown to snap the head violently causing a knockout, at the very least, or death at the most. I agree with this technique WHOLE heartedly. Always keep your opponent off balance and guessing until you put them to sleep." Lot's of unspoken ifs there. If they haven't moved, if they get confused, if your own balance isn't off, if you don't trip while spinning off the flat mats, if they don't strike backwards as you have your back turned, if their head is still there for you to grab....
the point to the spin that i can see, is the fluid motion. circular motions are much more fluid and efficient so your body doesnt have to stop and go another direction. Also, that spin will give your hands more momentum for pulling on the head making the head pull that much easier, faster, and to the opponent confusing, all during the while keeping your body in a fluid motion
Your body become centrifugal, and in a direction arcing behind your opponent but spinning. While spinning, your body is turning while your ankles are crossed while inertia is being deployed to a certain area. Your mass is going to take you outwards and you're trying to focus your attention on the inside, towards the axis. My suggestion would be for you to try the spin and then just try a simple sidestep as well and see what work with more efficient movement.
There was one shadow move where I duct under arm twist and grab arm forearm grab let go the spin clockwise backing up and behind openent like . Err to the right and away some from person then forward behind and knock behind knees while arm around neck or chopping shoulder near neck
In the spin, there is an elbow strike to the back of the head/neck, kidney and etc. There is also a sweep in it as well. And there could be a broken arm too.This is based off the "defender" not being the aggressor. Good job...
a truly powerful strike will start with motion generated at the planted foot, this allows you to generate energy with little or even no movement of the arm.
@carcrazymofo: The purpose to learning the art is to make it second nature. no one naturally thinks of these movements in midfight. The point is to train your body to move, to calm your mind so you can think clearly and so you have an option. If you're in a situation where you need this movement your likely better off having tried something than nothing.
The attacker's hands are up guarding his head. During and after an attack the opponent will usually continue to keep that guard. If you are in the 'line of fire' the attacker has fully committed to a movement. In the final, slow demonstration there was no wrist control as in the previous ones. While the spin does create momentum for the take-down, in my humble opinion the least amount of movements/steps is the most effective means of self defense.
Full spin is just for show. I am from Wado-Ryu. This style is known for Tai Sabaki. Confronted with a straight attack it isn't even necessary to move in 45. Normally attacks happen too fast for a technique to be executed like shown. An attacker is not going to wait for you to finish your 360 dance. Best option is what you mentioned or the boxing slip and slide.
@beeberhole69 1. I don't own anything with a TapOut logo. The gear I do have is labeled Everlast. 2. I referenced MMA because of its efficient use of multiple styles of fighting that have proved their effectiveness. 3. You changed the direction of the discussion from one of technique to a discussion of an entire system of fighting. I think Ninjutsu is great but what is most appealing about it to me is the stealth aspect which is one of the reasons it is so effective in my mind.
The "flashy" roll is to quickly get behind your opponent and still be able to end facing him in a smooth controlled manner. Yes, shuffling feet or stepping a couple times can get you there, but this move is about speed to "disappear", like he said.
To answer multiple users question...The "SPIN" creates momentum ,which in turn results in energy transfer, which results in an opponents head hitting the ground ALOT harder,than if there was no spin..A roller coaster loop is a good physical example..I am amazed that more Aikidoa didnt answer this question..Remember the 180° pivot ? OSU!
I have to agree with you, the flashy stuff is unnecessary as it leaves you open to counter attacks. You are also correct when you say that ninpo is more then just about fighting, it;s about living at peace with everything that is around you.
In any martial art or even gymnastics, it is a well known fact the body follows the head, so, with the stance of the attacker be left foot lead, it would be easier and just as effective to side step right while reaching for the head, step back, using the leverage of the your foot position, the weight of the person's head, and the fulcrum of their left foot forward stance.
Of course if you've got your hands at their head, a slap to the ear, eye, throat is already available. Thanks for hearing me.
Spinning not only confuses and is faster, but it creates momentum for the takedown to snap the head violently causing a knockout, at the very least, or death at the most. I agree with this technique WHOLE heartedly. Always keep your opponent off balance and guessing until you put them to sleep.
One thing I also noticed is the spin is stopped. If you were to utilize the spin's inertia, encouraging the attacker's backward motion through the use of centrifugal force, then the spin wouldn't be stopped, but, as you are attacking him, you would need to hook the head or neck in some way to utilize the energy used with the spin. In the video, it shows him spinning, stop, grab, then step back with the head slam. I agree with the idea of the attack, but the spin seems like a disadvantage.
i can say this after studying Taijutsu for 6 yrs i joined an MMA gym and studied at both dojo for another 3 yrs...in that time i had fights, in rings, for money after my first yr in the MMA dojo (so 2 yrs of ring fighting)...there were soooo many things that i learned in Taijutsu that gave me the edge over far more seasoned MMA guys in Ring Work. ive used similar Ghost techniques to this in Ring before though, especially in leg sweep throws...i used a cross step vs the spin, cuz I like stability
I've been noticing the comments about the extra spin move that most find pointless, and I don't know whether or not it was the trainers intent, but if you think about it, by properly timing the moment you grab the head, you can use the spin as a supplier of speed so that you may add more force as you 'snap' the head. That would most likely require very precise timing from the individual performing it and like most have said it seems easier to just skip that part for the sake of effectiveness.
The original technique was used with Shuko Hand Claws, and not meant to disable but to counter and kill.. I like how its being incorporated for self defense. GJ :) One thing though, look at the opposers feet to see which is used for balance and which is used for control knowing that will help you in knowing which side the attacker will strike from.
His footwork is really pretty; exact, calculated and practiced. Very enjoyable to watch.
You are 100% correct when you would face your back to uke when hes at full striking potential. This here is not the case. You just blocked a strike -> uke is off balance and in no position to strike again, you keep your weight against ukes arm all the time -> you step behind him with one legg (uke doesnt know or see this) then in a split second you perform what looks like a fancy spin but actually is a well performed motion while aware that ukes back is turned to you & vanish in thin air.
It seems to be a matter of telegraphing the move, knowing what's coming in and stepping forward and around, giving the 'superspeed' illusion (2 forces moving towards another at the same time). Very fascinating to see a move designed around this concept.
@distorted1one Oops. I just noticed that you just noticed that I grab the arm which prevents that kind of movement.
I understand that completely. I'm familiar with MMA/Juijutsu techniques as well, but its one thing to practice, practice, practice on something and another to see a flaw and not call it out for the sake common sense, efficiency, or preventing something that can take you out. The time to remove the mistake is before the fight, not during. As I said in a later thread, each person is different and different styles suit different people. To each their own, just my opinion. (cont)
That's not what I meant, by twisting the chin, you put the pressure on the neck. But you know nak muay can resist to really hard traction on the neck, and judokas use their chin to block chokes and when the chin is well placed your whole body can't take it away of your chest. And again, why spinning ? you just give time to the opponent to strike back, move back or defend. As it has been said before a elbow can strike quickly.
We train in a farm sometimes, but not an american farm, one from Colombia where they're lots of mountains and vegetation, we love those, we go there on saturdays :) Our sensei is like the best sensei (to me).
@Lillymill not just ninjutsu but filipino kali, japanese jujitsu, wing chun krav magga (if taught properly) would all work in street situations because that's what they are designed for.. same reason a grappler can grapple. in the video the brother is slowing down and telegraphing so you can see what he's doing in a real fight there will be no pauses and it would be very fast...
lastly I have seen martial arts like this used in real life and it wasn't as pretty but it wasn't meant to be
Excellent demo also of use against multiple opponents, once behind one of them we have as hield protecting us, and cen be thrown in diirection of ther next opponent , etc. More to it, the two handed blocking is another hidden aspect of perfection, refer to the late Yoshimi soke presentation in Italy, around 2015.Best regards.Paul, 68
I train in Martial arts and experimented with the grabbing and tilting and pulling back the head. it works considering when you tilt the head you are taking their balance and changkng their view and what tbey can see. It works
@squishynoodle22 You got it right. the spin is not pointless at all. Its about evasion and confusion of your opponent.I think those who think its pointless is because like too many cage match watchers, they want to engage in a fight and dont understand ninjutsu's principle is about evasion and deception, and minimizing the confrontation.
The circle isn't as bad as it may seem. It's similar in some ways to what football quarterbacks do. For one thing it gives him a 360 view. In bagua they have all sorts of crazy stuff like this. Part of it is because he is moving forward and you are maintaining contact with him, and therefore sensitivity, while still moving. Another part of it is that the friction of your spin would make it difficult for him to stop his movement! My bet is if you saw Hatsumi do this it would look amazing...
Tai sabaki is about moving yourself off the line of attack. You can see it in many martial arts systems. It really changes the way you block, if you have to block at all. because when you execute a block, its not just about blocking, its about moving yourself into a beneficial position whilst blocking, making the enemy vulnerable to you. Good example :)
with that statement I tried to direct you to the importance of good kamae, awareness of your surroundings and natural flowing nagare when doing this move. Most poorly trained people claim to have knowledge but infact they only know the static step/step moves based on pre-made situations which in real combat/defense circumstances only lead to defeat. I actually never wanted to debate this as THE technique to use i merely wanted to point out the potential it has in certain situations.
Smooth moves. Nothing really new for me, but smooth moves. Respect.
This man is a master at this i kould tell,ive mugged people rob an beat up nd i kould tel u i wouldent want to kross sum one with skills like this,true master,i change my ways now an would inkurage anyone to train 4 the unexpected with qiuck reactions like these.
This can work in some scenarios. It's very hard to hold onto someone when they spin. A practitioner with a wrestling background might use something like this to hit a Peterson Roll when grabbed, or use it in conjunction with an arm drag to take the back. Hating on this move is silly, because it's using human kinetics. As part of a chain of techniques this can be extremely effective as a setup.
Surely i know sometimes a fight may involve you without you being aware as it starts but as a martial artist you take responsibility in your actions, where you are, who you're with. If you get into a fight unwillingly you have some bad luck or you have failed to understand that you are in control of where you are and what you do and how you treat others. These often looked over ideas will land someone in a fight they didn't want but in the end all you can blame is yourself
@comzero141..im do not study this art but i am an Aikido student. I would say that the complete spin creates momentum for the final throw..It starts with the opponents energy and taking into a spin which will increase and then transfer it to the final throw. Done full speed this appears it could result in a devastating blow when the head hits the ground.
Sensei, I just wanted to say -your movements are true and good. It's nice to see. All attacks based in reality in practice are dependent on good uké-ship. The reality of this technique working is dependent on speed and surprise as you had mentioned several times throughout. You show the possibility of adding more koppojutsu throughout, which may only be necessary if the uké were cognizant of your intentions.
When he's going slow, but when he's going fast you know very well you'd get your eyes gouged out by this guy.
i like this move 1:38 into the video after the fancy spin your arm goes up to prevent a counter spinning back fist or elbow. pretty clever
Very learnfull, very interesting for me as aikidoka. In aikido there are also such movements and this is seen from another point of view. thanks !!!
And with the yoko aruki you cannot make up for the distance you need to move behind him without uke seeing you do it. Look at the kamae and nagare and how uke is positioned during the spin. If you are truely trained you can see what i mean. I too say never face your back to uke but this is a "onorthodox" move as he clearly mentions during the explanation -> uke never knows or sees you are facing your back to him (if you do it correctly ofcourse) Nagare is key dont forget that.
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It's not about swiftness or smoothness.
It's about effectiveness.
Outside the dojo, people don't just wait around until you do a 360 around them to grab them from behind.
I know it's cool and it looks nice but it doesn't work like that.
That's why they're demonstrating it this way - opponent attacks, freezes, waits out...
By that point, he is already within his "seikuken".(zone of combat). The safest you can be from your opponent during hand to hand combat is either extremely close, or 6 feet away. A backwards elbow wouldnt connect right from this stance.
good usage of 360 taisabaki, good back to body connection, nice.
@Postscript624 It's for disabling the person, if you move behind them and slam their head into the ground/stones whatever it will knock them out, a quick and stealthy way to take someone out without having to kill them... However if you break their arm it will start up a fuss and they will be scream/crying and think about what ninjas did, if your current enemy alerts everyone else in the area of your presence by yelling you didn't do a very good job...
thats a good question, i would have cross stepped through, i guess if he wanted to use the left elbow to the back of the head with the spin that may be ok. You can tell though by the way he postures and speaks that he seems like he would like putting more energy into his style
@aikido223411 mostly, the spin is to limit foot steps. it is a quicker maneuver than side stepping into location behind the attacker.
I understand how the technique is supposed to work, i was simply stating that there are more efficient ways of moving towards the opponents back while at the same time avoiding the hook or whatever the person decides to throw, but to each his own, every fighting style is different.
Kungfu systems pretty much all have grappling. Mostly standing grappling, called Chi-Na. Theres also takedowns, throws, wrestling..etc.. called Shuai jiao. Pressure point strikes, explosive power (fajin) & more. Karate came from Chinese teaching Japanese hard style kungfu.. changed from 'china hand' to 'empty hand'. However, its the soft internal arts, which are some of the most effective & deadly. They also are the most difficult to learn & master.
(The first half went missing...sorry)* I agree that MMA is incredible for developing all around body burst, power, strength, flexibility and acute timing of precision strikes...the only second to match that would be Olympic gymnastics which is what GSP had used at one point of his regimen, keeping close to the idea of muscle confusion, shaking up his work outs every month into a new one.
Pressure doesn't mean you have to close your fingers around the neck. It means using the break of balance with just a little push.
I'm inclined to agree. Without the twirl, and hence without the unnecessary movement, spinning, letting go of the opponent and potentially losing balance, I think the technique could me modified to achieve the takedown he is demonstrating.
Thats great to hear, one doesn't simply train ninjutsu, one has to live it.
- MMA, Fight Combatives, enjoy fighting kickboxing, grappling, wrestling matches, indulge in Aikido, Kali and other esoteric arts...I don't see it as a confusion of arts, I see as being human and learning that there is not such thing as different styles- I have two arms, two legs, one head, one body...I can do what they can do, all I need is dedication to learn it, time to train in it and an open mind to accept all their philsophies and still make my own. :) Peace bro, :)
This kind of movement indeed just looks like the basics. I think you can vary a lot on it.
1:30 Hands are down and the footwork is anticipatory. Not to mention the demo partner just pauses there with his hand out while the spin move is completed.
"The optimist sees the rose and not its thorns; the pessimist stares at the thorns, oblivious to the rose." The instructor avoided a head on attack, moving quickly towards the back of the opponent, and temporarily disabling him, and then escape. I like it.
@Ticky21 noo it's actually really quick to do, you can also grab their arm and pull it a little as you move in behind them to speed it up and stop them turning. The only thing you should be careful about is getting an elbow to the face from their other arm.
:-) you are right the video itself is not that much of an example. I was trying to explain the kamae and nagare used to perform the what looks like a dancing move spin.
Very nice. I am glad to see movements like this. I have some similar to this one.
@Lillymill You must not have seen all of our videos. We do have footage of some randori. See the video " Ninjutsu: NO LARPING. Also see our latest video" Knife Conflict Combat". Also go to Karim1950 and see footage of more randori from our dojos.
i could see losing contact being an issue in the spin if you simply bounced off the attackers strike. perhaps to avoid spinning off him try to practice pushing up and into the attacker to not only redirect but to capitalize on them being extended and offbalance. you can achieve the push by elevating your arm after you get on the outside of the strike and lowering your shoulder so as to spin "into" and behind instead of off. then again, if purely for self defense, deflect and run. fight over
This is an awesome technique. Hat's off to the SuubUrbanNInja! It's about body movement, body position, sensitivity. This can be done in a fraction of second (when properly trained). Remember the Ninja was evasive (this technique requires zero MUSCLE Strength). I remember from my BJJ training a terse Brazilian accent "no muscle, no muscle - use technique, position, leverage." and BJJ is a sport, this Art was designed to kill silently.
@gomergilligan You are right about it. Against quick boxing jabs you can't do much, and you can't apply this technique for sure. But, if you face boxer or any person who knows how to fight, the smartest is to step back and keep stepping back when jabs are thrown (unless you want to box). The hope is that attacking person will after some time loose patience and try to knock you down with hard punch with steping forward and giving you therefore energy you need from him to perform this technique.
@crzybo86 a punch isn't just a punch mate, and mma in itself is not a martial art its a combination of skills which can be used within mma competition, some mma fighters have different backgrounds..bouncers have support and generally are prepared for a fight and are bigger than the people they're fighting , this is for people who are NOT in that position eg a lawyer or banker getting jumped on his way to a car.. many soldiers use ninjutsu techniques ..
Yes you're right, but in football, if someone is coming at and trying to grab your body, and tackle you, which can be like a fight, the spinning technique can help, which is why I said it's a good thing to add, it can't hurt.
This technique would work against an attacker who is slower,maybe bigger or just to committed with his punch.I would rather have block strike,then circle around for the take down.Diffrent technique for diffrent size of people.And this one here is going to be place along side with everything other technique I picked up along the way.Thank you.
I like this move I have seen something similar before but the ARM is locked in the spin great vid
@Lillymill that being said lyoto machida used tai sabaki footwork against mma opponents for years with great success before losing (as all great fighters do.) and had the best defence in the ufc at one point never even losing a round.. he also used traditional style striking sweeps and take downs from karate do judo and sumo.. that aside bjj and kickboxing do little good when you've been jumped in an alley in the rain by three or four guys
@JRMtronica I respect your opinion, i see these comments all the time. Their are 1000 other things the sensei could of done, but he is breaking down a technique that needs to be taught which may work for someone. In a bar you see a bouncer having issues with a patron if he is good at self defense you will see him locking the guy up before the guy gets to go for another swing the guy may still be trying to get free but he is less effective. Multiply opponents would be different again.
At the begginng I entered to train ninjutsu because I wanted to fight, now I want to continue learning actually to avoid fighting, the real thing is that you need disipline, and auto-control... Respect for the cultures and nature, and of course other human beings. My sensei has thought me that, and we don't do that flashy stuff.
@darthclone7 Possible. When exicuted right even the most simple techniques prove to be utmost usefull. Try making your own moves out of the more complicated ones. THAT is also rewarding
it is truly a very effective counter and it does work,keep in mind that most of us martial arts enthusiasts kno 9 out of 10 fights that involve an opponent knowing a specific tecnique will not expext this from a street fighter
...don´t know...I think it is a lot of movement as to control it effectively...maybe I¨m wrong and just need a lot of practice...
As far as a choosing to do a side kick or roundhouse, fighting is not something people always choose to do, but is done in a matter of self defense. You train to prepare for the eventuality that you can protect yourself or loved ones, unless you're training for a sport. In which case, the mentality is different. Either way, in sports, the only time I've seen people successfully show their back is during a very powerful, over balanced round house kick that requires them to circle about.
I like this, i came here expecting some laughable garbage move and found a technique that is almost identcal to something we do in my art of kuntao. respect to you brother.
@JamaicanDave1980
Also, no one or two arts take the cake for being the best. It also much depends on the practitioner of the arts.
@vauxdriver I think it's because it's much quicker to keep up with the momentum instead of moving to your side.
I like it kind of aikido esque, in the way you don't flat out try to block the punch but use the opportunity to redirect your opponent and gain an opening in same move. for the people wondering about the practicality of this type of technique, imagine some drunk brute wants to punch u at a bar, this is something that could be effective. not only avoid getting hit, but end the fight without striking (could end up with charges with a closed fist strike).
@distorted1one Not at all. 1st of all you spin so fast and right into the head snapping back grab that they shouldn't have to do much of anything. 2nd if they did try to follow you with a back fist, all you have to do is grab the arm as it swings back and take them down using their turn momentum against them. I showed that in my video " ninjutsu for the novice.
@emilianocarra Possibly, but the majority of people you come across wouldn't know what was going on or what to do in that situation. Martial art fights don't have 'rules'. tournaments and matches do, but an actual life-or-death (not duel/match) fight has no rules
Good video , I think this is like you say for a more advanced practitioner. I recommend all others check out the novice videos. For all of those who says this won't work against a trained fighter are sadly mistaken. Trained fighters train for all situations but, this is a very confusing movement. I have personally done a similar movement to a trained fighter and they were bewildered. Everything is about technique, believing and trusting your art (if it is an effective art), and execution. For e
@UrSoMeanBoss yes, i dont know martial arts. but at start (when they fight fast) the contrincant makes only a hit and he doesnt move. sorry for my bad english im not english