Rod, Thanks for your question and input.......It comes down to speed why both the "searching" FF in the beginning of the video as well as the initial "rescue" FFs were on their knees. Yes, you're correct in that you can distribute more of your body over a greater area by being on your stomach and reaching out farther with your tool, but you're limited to the immediate area around you and you won't cover a larger area nearly as fast by remaining on your stomach versus crawling. As far as the 2nd rescue FF; we teach a very specific way of sounding the floor - The technique shown in the video allows the FF to move quickly while still maintaining in control of his/her tool. If their tool breaks through the floor as they're sounding or they come across a preexisting breach/opening, the tool is less likely to fall through the hole or breach if it is held like you see in the video. We also always promote centering your body mass over your hips and back leg so if that you break through the floor with your tool the momentum doesn't carry your forward into the hole. In the end it basically comes down to "Each his Own" - What works for you may not work (or be preferred) by someone else. We rarely teach hard and fast rules - Just options.
Many smaller, rural departments use tan gear because it is generally less expensive. The manufacturer doesn't have to dye the fabrics, therefore are able to make a product in less time for less money
Gracias por el video es muy útil. Un ejemplo para una rápida intervencion ante un compañero caido, confirmando que no tiene lesiones. Siempre cominicación constante con el compañero caido y trabajo en equipo. 😉
Great info!! I've never seen this before and you guys did an awesome job of showing everyone's job. What psi is your hoseline? It seems firm but pretty moveable. Do we psr down a bit, or will that take away from fire suppression? Thanks again.
Chiefs used to wear white turn outs, some still do. Yes, we used to call it bunker gear... time dating myself a bit... we also wore hip boots, long coats and rode the tail board (without a harness). Thank safety and evolution we don't do that anymore.
Mainly the color of the gear is preference by each Fire Department. Bigger/busier departments had preferred black gear over tan or yellow because it doesn't show soot and dirt as much giving the guys a cleaner not so dirty look. The problem most Departments are running into is the gear is beginning to break down because the gear is not cleaned regularly and properly. So a lot are switching back to tan gear because at a glance Officers or Chiefs can see who needs to get their gear washed.
That's because the extensive training that we do in preparation for dangerous situations. Maybe not the most dangerous job in the world but it is the best.
That's an excellent question - We've taught and practiced a variety of techniques as situations and conditions can change: You will typically have one of 2 situations; The FF fell through a pre-existing hole or the floor gave way under their weight. In either of these situations the hole will be a size that either the FF falls easily through, narrowly falls through or one where the FF gets wedged in the hole. The situation you are inquiring about is a tight or narrow hole in which the FF barely fits through. In a situation like that we would typically use rope or webbing (which I have videos on as well on my channel) in order to minimize the space taken up by extraction equipment such as the hose line or a ladder. The concept here is if the FF fit through the hole falling through it, they should be able to fit coming back out. However if you were still worried about the scba getting hung up, one technique that you can consider (if you have a carabiner and an escape belt or seat harness) is to clip the carabiner to the top of your scba harness and then clip the carabiner to your belt or seat harness - This will allow the scba to be secured and hanging (somewhat between your legs), but will in most cases give you enough length for your MMR hose to still reach your mask. With the pack off your shoulders this reduces your profile, but can be problematic as there is a good chance the pack will still get hung up in the hole as you don't have direct control of it with it hanging off your belt or harness. This technique obviously relies on a lot of factors including the type of scba you have and the capabilty of rigging as I described. Feel free to check out these videos as well: ua-cam.com/video/uCEK5LfDLhU/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/VolVPno4Hc0/v-deo.html
Great video! We'll add this to our options and practice for sure. Thank you, and keep up the great work. Maybe I'll contribute with my own vids someday. Just gotta find a person worth looking at. My face was made for radio.
Thanks..Mr.Dale..have more things to learn from ur videos..and i will follow ur videos..from 2day and..please let me know how to change the nozzle man when he getting tired, without reduce the pressure..thanks again and great job keep it up ..
If they just fell into a crawlspace, most of those are not very deep. Assuming the firefighter is uninjured from the fall, they should about be able to stand up and hop out on their own. If they are injured it wouldn't take much work to get down to them due to the minimal distance.
If you work for a small volunteer FD you may have difficulty obtaining adequate staffing, but this technique does not have to be performed with just a single company - Envision a scenario where a 2 FF engine company is performing fire attack while 2 other FFs are searching - One falls through a floor (from either company) This would leave the other 3 to pair up and still effect the rescue. Realize the "double horseshoe" technique is just one of many options for rescuing a FF who has fallen through a hole in a floor and it has limitations just like anything else.
Why was the first firefighter on his hands and knees? By crawling on you belly you spread your weight over a greater floor span and when doing a search you can cover more area on your belly.
Sounds like lewiable failed a background check and didn't get his dream job. It's ok lew, there is no shame in living in your parents basement when you're 42 years old.
Rod, Thanks for your question and input.......It comes down to speed why both the "searching" FF in the beginning of the video as well as the initial "rescue" FFs were on their knees. Yes, you're correct in that you can distribute more of your body over a greater area by being on your stomach and reaching out farther with your tool, but you're limited to the immediate area around you and you won't cover a larger area nearly as fast by remaining on your stomach versus crawling. As far as the 2nd rescue FF; we teach a very specific way of sounding the floor - The technique shown in the video allows the FF to move quickly while still maintaining in control of his/her tool. If their tool breaks through the floor as they're sounding or they come across a preexisting breach/opening, the tool is less likely to fall through the hole or breach if it is held like you see in the video. We also always promote centering your body mass over your hips and back leg so if that you break through the floor with your tool the momentum doesn't carry your forward into the hole. In the end it basically comes down to "Each his Own" - What works for you may not work (or be preferred) by someone else. We rarely teach hard and fast rules - Just options.
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Another great training video!!! Thanks!!!
Question: What do you do if the firefighter you're trying to save is injured and unable to climb onto the hose like that?
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Tuck he hose under his armpits and wrap the arms over the hose then under the scba belt
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Nance or the no-knot Nance.
Watch this video for a kit and techniques that can be used on injured or unconscious FFs ua-cam.com/video/VolVPno4Hc0/v-deo.html
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This is badass! Excited to practice it.
I want to be trained like this
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Many smaller, rural departments use tan gear because it is generally less expensive. The manufacturer doesn't have to dye the fabrics, therefore are able to make a product in less time for less money
Thank you for this video. I hope it will help my guys, if anything.
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Gracias por el video es muy útil. Un ejemplo para una rápida intervencion ante un compañero caido, confirmando que no tiene lesiones. Siempre cominicación constante con el compañero caido y trabajo en equipo. 😉
Great info!! I've never seen this before and you guys did an awesome job of showing everyone's job. What psi is your hoseline? It seems firm but pretty moveable. Do we psr down a bit, or will that take away from fire suppression? Thanks again.
Chiefs used to wear white turn outs, some still do. Yes, we used to call it bunker gear... time dating myself a bit... we also wore hip boots, long coats and rode the tail board (without a harness). Thank safety and evolution we don't do that anymore.
Mainly the color of the gear is preference by each Fire Department. Bigger/busier departments had preferred black gear over tan or yellow because it doesn't show soot and dirt as much giving the guys a cleaner not so dirty look. The problem most Departments are running into is the gear is beginning to break down because the gear is not cleaned regularly and properly. So a lot are switching back to tan gear because at a glance Officers or Chiefs can see who needs to get their gear washed.
That's because the extensive training that we do in preparation for dangerous situations. Maybe not the most dangerous job in the world but it is the best.
If situation dictates what is best way to convert the pack if need for profile restrictions
That's an excellent question - We've taught and practiced a variety of techniques as situations and conditions can change: You will typically have one of 2 situations; The FF fell through a pre-existing hole or the floor gave way under their weight. In either of these situations the hole will be a size that either the FF falls easily through, narrowly falls through or one where the FF gets wedged in the hole. The situation you are inquiring about is a tight or narrow hole in which the FF barely fits through. In a situation like that we would typically use rope or webbing (which I have videos on as well on my channel) in order to minimize the space taken up by extraction equipment such as the hose line or a ladder. The concept here is if the FF fit through the hole falling through it, they should be able to fit coming back out. However if you were still worried about the scba getting hung up, one technique that you can consider (if you have a carabiner and an escape belt or seat harness) is to clip the carabiner to the top of your scba harness and then clip the carabiner to your belt or seat harness - This will allow the scba to be secured and hanging (somewhat between your legs), but will in most cases give you enough length for your MMR hose to still reach your mask. With the pack off your shoulders this reduces your profile, but can be problematic as there is a good chance the pack will still get hung up in the hole as you don't have direct control of it with it hanging off your belt or harness. This technique obviously relies on a lot of factors including the type of scba you have and the capabilty of rigging as I described. Feel free to check out these videos as well: ua-cam.com/video/uCEK5LfDLhU/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/VolVPno4Hc0/v-deo.html
Hell ya love that thorough answer gives many ideas for teaining
Great video! We'll add this to our options and practice for sure. Thank you, and keep up the great work. Maybe I'll contribute with my own vids someday. Just gotta find a person worth looking at. My face was made for radio.
Belle technique.
That is why we do Search and Rescue with a Link line, this old version style must be stopped immediately,
Thanks..Mr.Dale..have more things to learn from ur videos..and i will follow ur videos..from 2day and..please let me know how to change the nozzle man when he getting tired, without reduce the pressure..thanks again and great job keep it up ..
if the firefighter falls through the floor of a single story house with a crawlspace not a basement??
If they just fell into a crawlspace, most of those are not very deep. Assuming the firefighter is uninjured from the fall, they should about be able to stand up and hop out on their own. If they are injured it wouldn't take much work to get down to them due to the minimal distance.
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Who would ever have three guys for this?
If you work for a small volunteer FD you may have difficulty obtaining adequate staffing, but this technique does not have to be performed with just a single company - Envision a scenario where a 2 FF engine company is performing fire attack while 2 other FFs are searching - One falls through a floor (from either company) This would leave the other 3 to pair up and still effect the rescue. Realize the "double horseshoe" technique is just one of many options for rescuing a FF who has fallen through a hole in a floor and it has limitations just like anything else.
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Why was the first firefighter on his hands and knees? By crawling on you belly you spread your weight over a greater floor span and when doing a search you can cover more area on your belly.
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Another awesome video, but I don't think this one is practical for a real life situation. Definitely another tool for the tool box, though.
Sounds like lewiable failed a background check and didn't get his dream job. It's ok lew, there is no shame in living in your parents basement when you're 42 years old.
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