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I flashed my 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate to an 6950 XT but you musst use Linux to flash because only there you can use the -f (force) command and the 6950 XT has a higher SOC Voltage, so the card will only run in safemode with 500mhz, but you could flash the AMD 6900 XT Liquid Cooled Bios on the Card, thats what I did and then you have an even higher Speed card with 2300+MHZ Vram clocks!
Hit me up if you need more Details...
This needs more likes so Jay sees this
Definitely needs to be bumped!
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Flashing bios is scary. I found out I could hold my breath much longer than I'd thought when updating my MB yesterday.
Wow, this takes me back. 20 years ago, I bought a Radeon 9700, because it was the only graphics card I could afford (after working 2 paper routes all summer long). Then, by searching forums I found out that the only difference between the Radeon 9700 and the Radeon 9700 Pro was only the clock speed of the core and memory. I beefed up the cooling with an old CPU cooler, stuck a better heatsink on the VRMs, and overclocked the heck out of it. In no time, I had the equivalent of a Radeon 9700 Pro and better.
aw man your post took me back to being 16 again, I had a 9700 too. Its funny I didnt overclock mine, I got my drivers license a couple months later and wasnt quite as into gaming as much anymore... didnt really game on PC again untill 2020 actually haha long break
Flashed an 9800XT bios onto a 9800PRO card. Ran a little louder but never died on me.
I definitely could get more out of my 6600 if the sliders in the Radeon software were longer.
It be funny if they made it super long but it kept the same percent lol. I be hoping the same for my 6600 and 6900xt
Lol good one
Still trying to get around the VBIOS limits on my 5600XT
@@IsaardP It almost made me laugh, but ultimately is just unrealistic.
Part of the appeal of the 6600 is that it is not as large as higher tier cards, and takes less resources to build. If you make the slider bars longer, it won't fit in your case and will cost too much to build.
Get an ultrawide monitor
You can even learn from episodes like these that don't pan out, always worth a watch.
Flashing the red devil family is a nightmare, i switched between windows and linux back and forth trying to flash
7:52 Nah, I'll wait for the 6950 00 XT Super Ti Champion Hyper Turbo Alpha EX Plus Impact Anniversary Anthology Max 3D Collection Rainbow version of the card that comes out next year. (For those curious, that was a reference to actual Street Fighter game names that have come out over the years)
Thank you so much for not having a misleading title.
The iFixit spot made me doubt myself as a human being....until I realized I already own one because of Jay, and now I know I'm a golden god.
You shouldn't own humans. Tv told me that's wrong
Lol he's literally the reason why I got one too. Everytime I have to take stuff apart for clean up it makes it easy. The screwdriver helps getting into the hard to reach places. I even use to build AR15's 😂
@@dethtour
Do you overclock+undervolt your AR-15?
Before watching. Will not work, device ID differs, even if force flashing Linux, doesn't work.
There is 1 person who's found a work around, he's working on making it possible for the masses.
Also, Jay, OC the cards using MPT. THEN you'll find the difference between the two cards. Look at 3DMark HoF .... LN2 6900s, then water cooled 6950s, the the rest...
The Red Devil 6900 XT Ultimate uses the Navi21 XTXH chip rather than the Navi21 XTX (what most 6900 XTs use including the reference card, the Liquid Devil, & non-Ultimate Red Devil). At one point, the XTXH chip was branded as the 6950 XT according to techpowerup. The device-id is different between the XTX (73BF) & XTXH (73AF). Furthermore, the XTXH chip is binned & has higher clocks than the XTX (in line with the 6950 XT). In the short, the 6900 XT Navi21 XTHX cards are almost the same as the 6950 XT with main difference being the memory speeds.
This a FAKE ACCOUNT!
@@mrlowrider05 Thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t notice.
Their is also a Liquid Devil ultimate though which uses the XTXH chip too though?
@@Hellfire8 I didn’t know they released an ultimate version of the liquid devil. I assume that would be a XTXH as well. Also, I didn’t list all the XTXH cards. Other board partners have them as well. All’s I’m saying is that most 6900XTs are XTX.
The 6900 XT Liquid Cooled had 18gbps memory on an XTXH die, so can be used to flash other XTXH cards. I've seen reports of people successfully getting 18gbps memory working with the LC bios on other XTXH cards. Probably different timings that allow for it to work.
VGG is a bad ass, love watching his stuff. Obviously same as I enjoy watching yours, Jay.
Nice quick plug for Derek over at VGG👍another great channel lol
Still the best iFixit ad ever.
PowerColor Employee: Jay had a problem with the 6900XT Ultimate 🤨.
PowerColor Manager: Send him a 6950XT 😁!
PowerColor Employee: 😳 Um... Okay.
Have not done this in almost 10 years when I got my R9 290 and flashed it to a 290X. Back then you used ATIflash with a bootable dos usb stick to flash the card.
Jay: Scotty ya bastard give me more power!!
Scotty: I'm already giving ya all I've got ya sadist!
That ifixit ad you guys do always makes me crack up laughing lol. Especially the shot of Jay grabbing all the sets at the end hahaha that always gets me
12:26 unfortunately I once again have to say that Jay has no clue and is not prepared. AMD clearly stated that they will use faster memory on their 6x50 cards, because the slower memory of the 6x00 cards is not available anymore. So the memory is not binned, it's simply a newer revision of memory that can handle the higher clock speeds.
Reminds me of the days when you could unlock an HD 6950 to be an HD 6970. Modern products are just manufactured closer to the edge of possibility in the name of material efficiency.
Aye, first BIOS mod I ever did was flashing an X800 into an X850 XT PE. For the price of an aftermarket double slot cooler the card was about 60% faster than stock and half the cost of the real XT PE. I'm a little too young to have been pencil modding Celerons but I imagine the feeling was the same; getting one over on the man!
@@BravoCharleses Asus also made a motherboard with a phenom Core Unlocker in the bios that would boost the clock speeds and unlock the second or third core on some CPUs. They also had a full web browser with flash support built directly into the bios for troubleshooting 😂 it even supported flash.
These are my favorite videos, the ones with the unknown outcome.
About 15 years ago I bought a pair of BFG (I think the company no longer exists) graphics cards. Both identical with the same bios.
When I enabled SLi I got massive artifacting as if one GPU was failing. But individually they worked perfectly.
So what I tried is I flashed a bios from a different manufacturers BIOS on both GPUs with the same clock speeds all round. Magically SLi worked perfectly with a different manufacturers bios on them.
I contacted BFG a out the problem and told them about the problem. They didn't want to know about it. I think they shut their doors about a year after buying the cards.
Why doesn't Jay run his test bench on a UPS? He would not worry about losing power during a flash, etc.
He likes to live dangerously. lol
turns out the 6950xt is the new 'waste of sand' product
Wasn’t expecting a vice grip garage reference.
I am very curious to see what GPUs look like in the next couple of years. My next rig will be geared toward rendering and/or machine learning so the way the market sits right now has me on the edge of my seat. NVIDIA has always been a leader there, AMD keeps making great strides in the professional GPU space, and now Intel is getting into the GPU game as well.
Woman after my own heart, and with my same last name. Are we kin?? I’ve devoted my life to seeing the singularity with my own eyes. Watching humans fail the Turing test, and being incapable of distinguishing the uncanny valley.
@@Technicallyaddicted 🙄
Has this actually worked for you before? What did I say that was "after your own heart"? I'm likely not your type, or your kin.
I'm here for computer talk, don't be weird because a girl entered the chat.
@@taekwoncrawfish9418 I'm hoping as the nodes get smaller we will also see power requirements decrease as well. I'm talking about running multiple GPUs in my system so I hope they aren't going to require astronomical supply of power.
aye I'm in machine learning too!
@@lyrebird712 if I thought you were kin, would I be hitting on you? Do you really think someone who has dedicated their lives to the singularity would be “into family”?? Honestly I think you might be kin. The rest of my family and extended are morons too. Rest assured I have zero interest in you, and now zero respect. “After my own heart” is a statement that means “thinks along the same lines”. Not literally after my heart. I don’t even have one, which you can clearly see from my bitterness. I was being 100% factual and nothing more. I don’t even want to know anymore. I thought I’d have a family member to talk shop with and discuss the implications of AI on society, not be mistaken for a simp.
My Xfx 6900xt Zero WB. Just did 10745 on stock setting. Definitely look into flashing that bios maybe.
I noticed the VRAM binning with my old 7870 as well back than. It was pretty easy to match the R9 270x GPU clock speed, but i couldn't push my ram that hard.
When you put up 73.2 years later, you should've gotten a skeleton dressed up as Jay on right after
I can see it now, JTC shirt and all. Lol
That's what I was thinking, LOL.
And a hand on the keyboard WASD and the other on the mouse
beepboopbop! I'm a computer! I'll be dipped. I love it when my favorite UA-camrs mention each other.
These numbers were killing you here lol
Not that I would do a flash that "MAY" brick my GPU. But thanks for trying it so that others do not have to. 👍
1.8% improvement is pretty much nothing lmao. More power tool is a much easier/better option for getting more out of your card, since you can raise the power limit if you just go to the power tab and change the TDP and TDC to whatever you want, then write SPPT. Highly recommend it, lets my 6600 sustain 2.66 GHz in timespy
That iFixit ad break has to be the greatest ad I've ever laid my eyes on
besides Dawid 's Linode ads?
Did this to an old RX480 to an RX580. I'd wish for this to be possible today but then that means there is no actual hardware change between "generations".
He said "team brown sure" but I misheard it as "team brown shirt" for the first time lmao
Use a ch341a! They're amazing!
Great watching you become tongue-tied over a good teaching moment. Technology manufacturers are much more tech savvy about segmentation and stopping you from a cheap upgrade path.
Just after a couple days of trying (and finally succeeding) to flash a different bios on my Dell 3060ti, then beating the world record for 3060ti/10700f you post this video.....
Seems suss.
Yep. Can confirm. Nvidia Flashing does not care about matching board revisions. Flashed my founders 2080ti to a Galax bios earlier today. Now the card is capable of 400W peak power draw. Average clocks 2130MHz. Temps 81C max. (I changed out the cooler as well. So now it's a Founders Edition board with an EVGA XC Ultra cooler and a Galax bios.)
what happens if you mix red and green?
You get yellow.
Team yellow when?
I'm pretty sure AMD locked the bios in RDNA2
I'm only here for the I fix-it advert after that I tune out. Hilarious.
I Heard the bleep bloop and perked up so fast!! Love that guy!
Phil - When you did the cut of "73.2 Hours later", would have been HILARIOUS if when the video came back that Jay was in that same seated position, just with a fake beard on. Improv!
Great video, as usual.
@@skunk2spec489 trope? Watch out guys, We got a professional on our hands!
I usually use the arguments -p 0 -fa or -p 0 -fp to force flash a vbios that miss match with the IDs. I don't believe the old -f works anymore.
Years ago I force flashed my Sapphire R9 280x to an XFX R9 280x. The card was broken with the Sapphire firmware, but worked perfect with the XFX. Most important part was matching memory.
Yeah, that Sapphire fan control was unusable, for one.
You would be better off using more power tools and adding some extra power overhead. I have successfully taken my reference card to 2800mhz stable with a 375w power limit.
You can just buy a eeprom/bios programmer and the adapter that allows you to flash the chip without desoldering it and flash the 6950xt bios without even powering up the card. If you brick it, that's fine. Just flash the old bios back with the programmer.
you can bridge to pin on the bios chip that will allow you to flash it
The only ads I dont skip, are yours. Always something funny. Much love from Cape Town , South Africa bro
Feeling as sick (parody to Home sick) FIXIT WITH IFIXIIIIIIIIIIT!!!!😁
@jay, I flashed my ATi 9700 with the Pro bios and unleashed those extra pixel pipes. It was a stunner for that time! ... 2004ish? What a time that was.
Sorry 2003 I would have bought it in Australia!
My understanding here is that the memory width changed between these cards. Seems like something that a reflash wouldnt be able to handle
Vbios work around- Create a Virtual Machine in Unraid, in the VM template select the higher clock speed bios. When you start the VM it doesn't read the vbios from the card, it reads the vbios you selected in the VM template from your hard disk. This is also a work around for warrenty bevause you're not dicking around with the gpus actual vbios
The best card would be the 6969XT
everybody knows that you can only flash the 6950 xt to a 6970 xt when it gets released
what about a 6600 into a 6600xt? would be a much bigger % win
MY CARD!!!!!!!!! :)
Bought the 6950XT on day one release, upgrading from dual titan x's. Have been very happy with it.
make sure the memory type sypport matches your card. if it doesnt have the "module" for your memory manufacturer, hynix vs samsung, it wont boot even if you force it. unless theyre all the same now.
the better vbios has an autodetect mode for the memory. thats how i got my rx480 to run smoothly as an rx580 was one with autodetect listed. then adjusted the straps from there.
I would love to see this done with something like a 2080ti FE and a better 2080ti as a way to squeeze out extra performance for someone still on last gen
You'd be way better off overall selling that 2080ti and buying a 3090 than you would buying another 2080ti
@@devvoid1312 it was mostly an example, like this would benefit someone still on a gtx 10 series card more but I would also like to see it done on my 2080ti fe since I have it on water and it would be cool to see it flashed to something like a kingpin
I can’t believe your 2080 is still working mine died last month if it started to ram up clocks it would just auto crash
@@maxtokmin9683 You sure it's not your psu
@@maxtokmin9683 it's memory degradation. Just lower your clocks it'll fix it
Reminds me of the good days with flashing my 465 gold edition into being a 470.
Probably not a card Jay has collected
You get Noctua when you mix Red & Green
Man, I remember I could flash my pretty decent Sapphire HD7850 like 3 generations.
Ah brings back memories of flashing a radeon 9800 xt bios onto my 9800 pro that was built on a 9800xt PCB. Unlocked the temperature sensor along with stock higher clocks. After that I upgraded the cooler and volt modded it. Fun times.
It works the other way. You can put the 6900xt bios on the 6950xt.. I hear it can be better performance (same performance lower wattage).. but take that with a grain of salt.
ah yes. i remember doing this with my hd7950 and flashing it to hd7970
I wonder if you could fetch both images and compare hex values. There must be a couple of bytes you can change for it to accept the flash.
I shouldn't be surprised to hear a shout out to my other favorite YT channel Vice Grip Garage! But it was kind of cool. Love that channel.
nice Vice grip node B)
Those ifixit ads never get old. And I normally hate ads in videos
G'day Jay, Phil & Nick,
I have done some GPU BIOS Flashing but that was for putting back the Stock BIOS for GPUs like RX480/580 that had theirs changed for Mining & have seen that many people were doing this for those GPUs to turn say a Sapphire Nitro 480 to a 580, but I still prefer getting a stable OC that loads with Afterburner after Booting as I feel there would be less chance of Boot Failures than a BIOS Flash for an OC especially on older GPUs where components are worn.
BIOS swapping been around 10+ years now.
first card i did it was a 7970 BIOS on a R9 280x
and last one i did was a liquid vega 64 BIOS to a Vega56
and same liquid vega64 on my strix vega64
That Liquid Vega64 BIOS was crazy and had one hell
of an overclock potential when dialed in correctly
can you say how they ended up? I'm curious because I have a Vega56 on a second rig and I might try it...
@@jpfidalgo7 i have it for years (vega 56 with 64 bios) still it runs with no probems
@@Chrontard TY sir. Much appreciated.
Pam Beesly:
"They're the same card".
12:57 You've obviously never listened to any Rage Against the Machine songs before.
Using Linux, amdvbflash (apparently windows only supports -fa & -fp)
-f Force flashing regardless of security checkings (e.g. AsicID & BIOS file info check OR boot-up card).
-fm Force flashing bypassing BIOS memory config check.
-fs Force flashing bypassing BIOS SSID check.
-fp Force flashing bypassing BIOS P/N check.
-fa Force flashing bypassing already-programmed check.
-fv Force flashing bypassing newer BIOS version check.
Still rocking my vega 56 with a vega 64 bios on it xD. Was hoping to pick up a 3000 series gpu but then the shortage happend and now i'm sitting out till the 4000 series.
Jay, without a doubt, you have the best ifixit ads on UA-cam. Period 😂😂 please give us more of these sponsor ads
I've always wanted to see what crossfire does for Productivity, That is if it works at all
In general, productivity apps do not gain from SLI/CF at all, because the way they utilise the GPU does not involve inter-GPU communication. This is certainly true for any compute type load (such as rendering in AE or acceleration in Vegas) and for 3D apps like Maya it's also true. Games (way back) used SLI/CF (and people forget now that it did work very well) but pro apps typically don't. My CUDA research box had four GTX 580s (later 780 Tis), but no SLI connectors, not needed for all of them to be exploited by AE, Octane Bench, etc.
I did try game scaling with SLI connectors though, it worked up to 3-way for some games. but four cards rarely helped and was normally slower, though it depended on the game.
Note there are some pro tasks which do involve inter-GPU communication, but such tasks are not run on consumer hw as they tend to benefit from other pro features of Quadro/FireGL such as full speed PCIe return path, cache differences, ECC and more optimised drivers.
@11:57 You sound like Philip Seymour Hoffman’s capote here lmao
Depends if its the cli tool or the cards bios itself which validates the ssid. If the cli then a bit of assembly editing to jump the check would help 😀
I flashed my old Vega 56 card to a 64 for the memory boost as the memory chips were all the same. Free performance.
Dude I love Derek from VGG!
You can't "force it" in that since BUT
Back in the good old days of polaris you could use a bios editor (redbios, PBE,...) to change the subsystem ID so i just used to do it this to get around that error
Idk if such tools exist for the new stuff
You can force it, but you need to use Linux and a terminal. I've done it before
Back in the day I flashed my 9700 pro to 9800 pro and my Radeon HD6950 to HD6970... worked flawlessly. But all those things are nowadays not possible anymore, I also think OC doesn't make much sense anymore. Back in the day you could buy a celeron 300mhz and overclock it to 450mhz or a 2500k from 3.4GHz to 5GHz.... those times are gone!
That commercial never gets old. 10/10 :,D
Buildzoid pointed out that most of the 6950 XT uses better quality components than their 6900 XT counterparts
I just got done benchmarking my 6900XT Red Devil Ultimate w/ EK block to compare with my brand new 6950XT Liquid Devil that I just got today.
I don't expect much difference in performance as the big difference between these two cards is going to be memory speed. 18GBps for the LD vs 16GBps for the RDU. I'm upgrading as a divorce present to myself.
There are tools like the CH341A that are AMAZING for this kind of work
I just love the Ifixit intro xD
Team Brown GPUs would just completely shit on the competition
Not having sli is solely a money grab. Designed to make you buy more cards more often. And not having it is only hurting us and the environment. And benifits Nvidia.
There is an old trick though very rarely done as it requires a fair bit of skill but one could edit the timings for the vram and get a moderate performance gain even at stock clocks however overclocking the vram for additional gains becomes more limited.
The Radeon software now has a fast timings option for vram but no idea what the timings are.
try undervolt to 1150 and run test again :)
What is worth doing is turning off the power limits
my brother has a sapphire 5700xt, has had it for a couple years, and recently started getting crashes due to driver time outs and occasional BSODs. ran him through driver reinstalls and system driver updates until finally told him to get afterburner and knock 50mhz off the core clock which fixed the problem. yay for board partners pushing cards too hard amirite
The last card I did a software mod using an alternate BIOS was the Radeon HD 6950 and turned it into a 6970 as both cards had the same chips and pipelines but were soft disabled on the 6950.
Hello everyone, I am in need of some guidance, I have tried enabling SAM and XMP/ DOCP in the past and it causes my rig to boot loop, not sure if I did something wrong but I can't seem to get it working with those settings enabled.
Ryzen 5 3600 stock clocks
MSI x570 MPG Gaming Edge wifi bios ver: 7C37v1H
Ballistix 16 Gb @ 3200mhz but unable to run at rated speed
Sapphire Nitro 5700XT
931GB Seagate ST1000LX015-1U7172 (SATA )
476GB ADATA SX6000PNP (SSD))
1907GB ADATA SX8200PNP (SSD))
850W Corsair Rm 850X
I have looked all over different forums, have tried many different BIOS and still have the same issues, any advice or help would be appreciated because I haven't been able to figure it out
download ryzen dram calculator and typhoon burner use typhoon to rtead your ram (micron revision and bin) enter that info into dram calc set to 3200 safe mode take a picture boot into bios and enter timings manually
Is the ram supported?
The problem I’m always had with my crucial ram when I load the XMP is the Tfaw is set way too low for micron its set to300 like for Samsung b die if you know what I’m talking about you can try to load your xMP go into the DRAM timings check your Tfaw and if it’s something like 300 raise it up to 540
Definitely don’t text that scammer that’s acting like Jay two cents
Make sure you have the Ram in the right channels. Check your motherboard manual.
I’ve tried this between a 6900XT and 6900XTXH and it didn’t work. I had an XTXH version and needed XT for a hackintosh but it didn’t even work that direction.
the 6950 has the newest GDDR6 18Gbps chips and you are have the old 16Gbps that your trying to push fast, the 18Gbps chips are not bin 16Gbps chips
The actual RAM. Chips are the same, you only need the right BIOS, and just have the cards a little more voltage and looser mem timings.
Could you do a vid messing around with the 5800x3D and see if you can undervolt it or something?
I could be wrong, but I believe you can force the flash in HiveOS. Aside from mining, it’s also super easy to use to flash bios(s) onto GPUs.
but why would you want to when you can force overclock it get the same if not better performance in less time then fucking around with flashing the bios in the first place?
@@raven4k998 oh I’m not saying it’s a great premise to begin with, just a potential means to accomplish it
I have recently been experiencing issues with my gaming pc that I built just two years ago! I have no idea what’s wrong and fear that one of my components is broken. I will be playing and my pc just goes to no signal out of nowhere, without warning. I’ve tried using a different monitor, different cable, I’ve cleaned my ram, I’ve updated the drivers and nothing. Please help!