Apes of Kaimere
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Although ideal habitat is not in abundance in Kaimere, apes have evolved into a range of species adapted to open forests, wetlands, and highlands of the known world. Giant gibbons, bamboo-specialized orangutans, and aquatic apes can all be encountered in this strange new world.
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A shame Gorillas went extinct and fast, but Chimps being also extinct... Maybe it was for the best for the later as... Well, I can easily see Megaraptoran hunting not only Chimps but also humans if they don't have the ability to distinguish... Since chimps, intelligent as they are, can be a bit too aggressive...
I can imagine groups of chimpanzee killing a young cockatrice after seeing your comment for some reason💀
Imagine trying to hunt humans
That still of the silhouetted chimps was throughly terrifying, and I would love to hear more about them in the context of kaimere. They give me real “silent ones” vibes lol
Heck yeah. I was quite taken by the idea of something we consider mundane to be a cryptid/mythical creature in Kaimere.
@@TalesofKaimere them chimps better still be out there lol. I need more over violent apes!
Man I was so sad that gorillas couldn't survive in kaimere. A full grown Silverback adult male gorilla vs a raptor would've been a sight to see
I am sure an An'Garu or a highland orangutan could put a powerful hurting on any raptor
Hey ! Keenan ! Just in case, here a list of potential candidates of flamingos and their extinct relatives you can integrate into Kaimere.
- Flamingos : Greater flamingo (Phoenicopterus roseus), Lesser flamingo (Phoeniconaias minor), South American flamingoes (Phoenicoparrus genus), Phoenicopterus croizeti (Middle Oligocene-Middle Miocene of C. Europe).
- Palaelodidae/Swimming flamingos : Palaelodus and Megapaloelodus (Oligocene to Pliocene-Pleistocene)
Flamingos on earth and our culture had, and even today, a high impact and cultural depiction on differents societies. They are birds who was often eat as delicacies and a good food during the Roman Empire with Nobles and rich people eating flamingos. And, in addition, these birds were often close to the mythical Phoenix bird (not difficult to see why).
Due to their filter-feeder lifestyle, who is a diet very succesfull in Kaimere, there must be these bird that make it into Kaimere.
On Kaimere, Flamingos can be called as Phoenix like the Firebirds family with the Indrakai.
Also, it's also maybe possible too than flamingos on Kaimere can be violet/purple instead of pink/red due to their food being violet since this latter eat the violet algae/hive portal (like the sea food during the Kaishel special episode).
Flamingoes are also very good at surviving in climactic extremes - they can stand in boiling water or vibe as the water around them freezes solid.
The possibility that some of them could have beeen brought in as exotic animals during the Mercantile Age is an excellent possibility !
Hope that will give you ideas ! 😀
Idk why but a purple flamingo due to them filter-feeding magical microorganisms would be just such a cool minor worldbuilding detail
What niche do you think the swimming flamingos would have
@@rylanbrewer3320 Well... the same they had on Earth.
You can find more detailed on their ecology on their wikipedia fiches.
What wod they be calld on kaiemre
@@rylanbrewer3320 I don't know.
Staying up late at a school night watching Kaimere content. This is the life
This is the way.
These clade specific videos are great. Hopefully we will get a video about the fish or microfauna, since those are terribly underrepresented in spec projects as a whole
I think it's cool that there are different species of apes in Kaimere including gibbons since they don't get much exposure compared to great apes like humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, bonobos, and orangutans especially since most of the nonhuman great apes and gibbons are being threatened in the wild by habitat destruction, exotic pet trade, bushmeat trade, and overhunting which is horrible but conservation efforts are bringing them back. But I do like the unique apes in your Kaimere setting like the Kaimerans, An'Garu, Maku, and water apes since they are semiquatic apes that are skilled swimmers.
Really loved this episode!! The sound design is getting better and better I really enjoy it!!!
Really like the Moose patterned Buffalo Ape!! All the artwork is amazing!
Thank you so much!! Really loved working the ungulate inspiration into all three of the giants (moose, a few antelope for the an’garu, and forest buffalo got Gigantopithecus)
Imagine if chimps went to war with Gotwats, and how bloody and ruthless those fights would be.
2:17
HOLY SMOKES!
They’re HUGE!
Last time we saw them, they were only slightly taller than a person.
The An'Garu was once considered as a Pongine apes and also as a Gigantopithecus (either the same specie than the Kaimeran Giganthopithecus, as a subspecie we see here, or a relative that came from a older previous harvest), but more discoveries of the Assembly have put forward that it's not the case.
But this is why, on the Old Gigantopithecus' DeviantArt post, Pakardia is showned as part of the distribution of the Giantopithecus.
It's because the An'Garu was mistaked with this latter (but it's not difficult to see why).
I don't know how you do it but I almost always end liking your redesigns of certain creatures even more then the old designs. That rarely happens. The An'guru and Gigantopithecus are so great. I also appreciate the abandonce of gibbons as they are often overlooked compared to other apes (an absolute shame if you ask me). Chimps are turned into cryptid monsters, which fits them perfectly. Yet another 10/10 episode.
Thank you so much! I generally only redesign when my technique has improved or I learn more about creatures anatomy and want to reflect those improvements, and that definitely needed to happen with these apes. So glad at their reception!
I adore that Chimpanzees are basically Cryptids in this setting. Excellent as always! Great seeing one of my favorite groups getting fleshed out, and with such great variety as well!
Thank you! Yeah I had a lot of fun with that piece, and I quite like the idea of something mundane to us being mythical in Kaimere much like Gigantopithecus possibly inspiring stories of cryptids on Earth, but are very real and well documented in Kaimere.
Honestly I can kinda see chimps evolving to be smarter on kaimere due to all the threats. Especially due to them having many sub cultures that can vary a bit form one another. Probably for the best that they are probably extinct or we would have dangerous goblins on the loose.
I mean, if you described a chimp to someone who’d never seen one, wouldn’t it sound like a monster?
I like the idea of Apes that take up a large herbivore role
What you said about the Chimpanzees and Gorillas (short) history on Kaimere after their introduction is what you already mentionned in the big lines in your Facebook account post of the 24 June 2020, where you explain and share in more precisions how proprely you decide which animals you will choose and will survive in Kaimere, folowing their ecological niche, physiology, reproduction, diet etc...
And, in a attentive and extremely detailed inspection and study !
As a little insight into the thought process you go through when considering every of the animals that thrive in a setting defined by waves of invasive species from Earth.
On this post, using the Gorilla as example, you explain that this great ape specie couldn't survive on Kaimere because the size of adults, particularly males, makes climbing difficult and being tied to the ground and will let the Gorilla face too numerous predators, especialy carnivorous theropods, which constitute a too high challenge.
You explain, after that, that using Pakardia as a refuge due to the low number of great and big predators will be impossible, because this island is pretty (too) cold since the southern shore faces the polar sea they would seasonally be really cold and that impacted a lot of the flora and fauna. Gorillas are apes who don't support real cold temperatures, and Pakardia is not a good place for them, in addition to already have several ape-like creatures that will pose a too high competition with gorillas.
The cold combined with their inability to climb as adults are the two main reasons of what they don't make it on Kaimere.
They didn't make it on the Mainlands due to the high number of (often bigger than themselves) predators and didn(t make it in the southern islands and Pakardia because of the too low cold temperatures.
You also have the good attention to mention of the possibility that they could have evolved to be more arboreal to escape predators but it’s harder to adapt as a K selection specie, and who evolved slowly as a effect.
Along with post, you share justly a picture of a Gorilla facing two unknown undefined cockatrices on Kaimere, at the time of the last African Harvest at 255-248 kya, to depict the impossibility of this ape to survive in a world dominating by theropods dinosaurs.
The exact same things occured in Chimpanzees and Bonobos, althought, they are more arboreals and more aggressives, and can support more colder temperature in some degree, but it's many others conditions, that you explained in this video, mostly competitions with others apes sharing the same niches who are the reasons these latter apes don't make it too on Kaimere.
Being said, the rumors of this uncomfirmed relic Chimpanzee population, like for the one of the giant marsupial Diprotodon, can't be possible and being an actuality in modern Kaimere, since the rumors of the surviving Forest Giants Chalicotheres from before the Titans return in the Known World have been confirmed to be true for these latter.
Correction :
Being said, the rumors of this uncomfirmed relic Chimpanzee population, like for the one of the giant marsupial Diprotodon, "CAN" be possible and being an actuality in modern Kaimere, since the rumors of the surviving Forest Giants Chalicotheres from before the Titans return in the Known World have been confirmed to be true for these latter.
Sorry to have note "Can't" instead of "Can", I don't often read again myself before posting my comments.
Hope this note will pose the minds clearer.
Finally an Apes video and I finally got a look at the Angaru and Gigantopethicus. Great job Keenan.
Thank you!!
Do you believe that today i watched three times this video? Absolutely one of my personal favorites. Thanks for share with us this marvelous world
Thank you so much!!!
It looks like that orangutan is blessing the gibbon
Creation of Gibbon
@@TalesofKaimere AH AH AH AH ! This subtle Sixtine Chapel tribute/reference ! XD
Keenan ! You're really the beast !
Gibbons are funny little guys and orangs are just plain neat@@TalesofKaimere
Very great video! It's a shame gorillas didn't make it, would have been cool to see a branch of them become massive, Imagine that! A Kaimerean Megaprimatus Kong!! That'd be sweet! But the selection here is pretty good and I especially like little Sun Wukong reference with the An'Garu, they look awesome.
The Buffalo Ape and Swimming ape are awesome aswell and I'm glad orangutan s survive in kaimere.
Imagine if King Kong was based of a true story but skull island was actually pakardia and Kong was an An'Garu.
It's definitely something I plan on exploring!
@@TalesofKaimere it's sound very exciting !
Full admission, I have no idea what the concept of this is, I’m just here because the thumbnail caught my eye, but as far as I can tell most of this is just like, imagining what animal evolution would be like on a different planet?
Anyway I just want to say that the *art* really caught my eye even if the concept is confusing, the apparent imagining of a modern species of Gigantopithecus called the Highland Orangutan in particular is *fascinating,* I genuinely adore it so much.
Great job!
Thanks so much! Basically yes: pitch is several times throughout prehistory a portal harvested our life and set it free to evolve independently.
Hey Keenan, Great Video can you add these animals/creatures pls?
Turtles and Tortoises
Birds of Prey
Kaimere Bush Elephants
More Rhinos
Really appreciate this if you do :)
George got so curious he move to another planet
I have been waiting for this video for 4 months lol I love monkey
Thank you!! Haha yeah I’ve had this idea on the back burner for a while I was glad to finally have some time to sit down and finalize them.
"I Wanna Be Like You " 😆
It's great and cool that we have on Kaimere both the 1967 and 2016 version of King Louie !
Btw, have you seen these two Jungle Book movies by Disney ?
Because King Louie is by far one of my favotite Disney character ! Same for his iconic song !
I love both the two versions of the characters ! Because they are interesting in many ways
In the 1967 movie, Louie is a vibrant and energetic character. He's the king of the monkey who live in an Hindu temple.
Thus it's was a original character by the producers, being not a character fro the original books by Rudyard Kipling, and thus Orangutans don't live in India, the inclusion of this character was very enjoyable (and perfectly interpreted by Louis Prima).
In the 1967 movie, Louie is not at all an antagonist, despite some people think about him.
In this movie, Louie is just a normal ape, leader of the monkey in he jungle, that just want to learn the secret of the creation of the fire (aka the Red Flower) because he think that can make him a man, thing he want and wish.
He capture Mowgli, because his a young man, and think this latter can give him the secret of the creation of the fire (but Mowgli don't know that. He is maybe a man, but creating fire is something we learn and teach, it's not instinctive).
And propose a deal to Mowgli, to allow him to rest in the jungle if he give the secret of the Red Flower.
In this version, Louie is a person someone who can be seen as actually respecting the markets she does. And we understand that Louie will indeed respect his bargain with Mowgli if the latter teaches him how to make fire. And not that kind of person who breaks their promise when making a deal to abtain a specific thing. Louie isn't like that.
Originaly, during the production of the movie, Louie was mean to be a bad character, an antagonist, but the creators changed that to give the result we know today.
In the 2016 version (here interpreted by Christopher Walken), the developpement and evoltuion of Louie is quite interesting.
Here, in a tribute to the original idea the first movie I just mentionend, they made Louie a more serious, treatening and darker character.
His position as leader of the monkey and wish to have the fire don't change.
Like in the original, Louie is fully prepared to honor his deal with Mowgli and to protect him if this later give him the fire.
However, Mowgli refuse, and Louie decide to forced him to give it.
Louie is, at one point, buried under rocks and ruins of his own hindu castle, but don't die (like the ending generic show it).
I like the fact that they made him a Gigantopithecus in this version, because Gigantopithecus indeed lived in Mainland Asia. A good move to justifiate his existence as viable, since, like I said earlier, Orangutan don't live in mainland Asia.
And that make him more a danger since, well, is big and can attack directly the protagonists.
Also, Disney reconstruction/depiction of a Gigantopithecus is quite good, acceptable and accurate, even if not perfect I can imagine (he's just a giant orangutan, which is quite this giant ape was, but with some differences) but outside that, I like how they showned the things.
The An'Garu and the Gigantopithecus are the King Kong versions of Kaimere.
You even made a 2005 King Kong vs Vastasaurus rex tribute in a Twitter post the 2 august 2020, showing an An'Garu fighting and winning over two Weotchetu'ka abelisaurid.
The picture, as we can now said, is, on kaimere universe, a depiction of a testimony recorded made by kaimeran scientific.
But this picture was made at the time where Kaimeran thought that the An'garu was a subspecie of the current kaimeran Gigantopithecus, this is why the An'Garu itself is depicted under the appearance of this specie.
But outside that, the rest of this depiction must be quite accurate toward what happen when an male An'garu defend itself over this abelisaurid specie.
It's a little shame that you didn't use this picture, but okay, it's way a great episode noneless.
starting some time soon when i stop fucking procrastinating i'm gonna be posting menagerie style lineups of the various clades present on iwahe and i still have no idea how i'm gonna illustrate the ko-hmais ape like relatives, as i kind of imagine in modern iwahe theyre pretty rare and elusive.
When will you do the elasmosauride video?
Also i love your anthology
Edit:i mean like zanitel and it's relatives
Thank you!
Elasmosaurs have a sponsor, and are slated for December!
There two super-family of Old World monkeys, the Catarrhines (aka Tailed Monkeys/Monkeys with tails) and the Hominoidea (aka Tailess Monkeys/Monkeys without tails).
"Ape" is a scientific term who refer only to primates who belong to the latter, the Hominoidea (even if peple often abuse this term by applying it on others none Hominoidea apes).
Inside the Hominoidea, they are two groups of Apes :
- The "Lesser Apes", who only refer to the Hylobatidae familly, the one of the Gibbons, Siamang and extincts and extants relatives
- And the "Great Apes", who include us, Humans, Chimpanzees, Bonobos, Gorillas, Orangutans and and extincts and extants relatives.
Nicely done. For some reason, I thought Kaimere had an ape adapted for snowy climates if Pakardia doesn't already have that. I finished my Colossal Tiger profile.
Congrats! And the An'Garu has dense fur and can endure the often cold nights of the highlands, but they are not snow-adapted. Some macaques are, though.
Again, Great video! I was hoping for a video of examples of awesome but sadly extint species, like a documentary of earth extint animals like mammoths, smilodons or dinosaurs but for Kaimere
I remember there an An'Garu black and white illustration somewhere in your social accounts either on Instagramm, Facebok or Twitter, showing a old male An'Garu who manhandles a generic looking temnospondyl amphibian.
Should have been great to use it in this video, but okay, not a great loss.
I unfortunately lost that one. I only took a picture with my phone and lost that sketchbook so could not scan it. I do plan on recreating it if I do an an'garu special down the road. I have a LOT more to say about them than I could cover in this sort of episode.
@@TalesofKaimere Hope so that will happen ! :)
Also, today, when you made picture and sketchbook, alongside colored drawns, before scanning it, you clasified them in numerous pouches, like that you don't lost them ?
Also, I don't remember if yes, but i think it's possible to take for such videos, on your computer, pictures from your phone.
Like : you take the picture and send it into your gmail account by one way or another, and here, you take again the picture from gmail.
And from pictures you take from your gmails account, you can use them for whatevers you want !
Or better, you download the picture when you put it into your computer memories, and from here, you can use it for whatever you want too !
I have done this already time to time to imprint photos I take with my phone !
Silly question:
Have any Kaimeran cultures or civilizations tried to domesticate or tame ape populations for labor or warfare?
I can picture some guys trying to give the An'Garu weapons and armor to fight in battles.
There have been attempts, and that’s ultimately what the First Children did with their super soldier Homunculi, but there are no modern examples
Interesting thing I've heard about apes is that apes/monkeys are basically counters to big cats since they have color vision unlike most prey of cats and usually live communal so cats cats sneak up as well on prey and when found the prey will start making lot's of noise making them easily found out
That's generally true for smaller apes, but leopards are well documented bringing down gorillas over twice their size, so I reasoned that a 600 pound Gigantopithecus could be on the menu of a 300 pound Homotherium or Dinofelis.
@@TalesofKaimere yes I've heard of that too which was kinda surprising since they are ambush predators it makes more since apes have a much smaller field of view than a lot of prey species also makes more since considering how large the prey they can take down that have better field of view and more mobile
@@TalesofKaimere also not saying it's unreasonable for cat's to prey on apes
@@jacksonklark6119 I read of one instance in the book Man The Hunted by Donna Hart that leapt down on a sleeping silverback and ripped open a vein in his groin. He bled out before his troop even had a chance to react
I absolutely love this series. I wish I could see a modern descendent of kaprosuchus or as it’s called the “boar croc” in kaimere. Though they might have been lost in the dynastic extinction.
I don’t believe that particular genus was harvested, but there have since been other croc clades with robust ‘tusks’, some of which are present in the known world today!
8:00 did you get inspired by the swimming monkey from the book ''After-Man'' ?
Nope! Just made sense to have them in a context where there was so much water and fruit that would lure them in
@@TalesofKaimere genius
In total, there, as apes and great apes, in the Known Wolrd :
- at least one specie of aquatic ape, the "Water Ape"
- at least 5 Hylobatid species of Gibbon's relatives called "Gloved Gibbons" = the Gloved Gibbon, the Red Ape, the Golden Ape, the Garden Ape and the Buffalo Ape.
- 4 genus of Hylobatid true gibbons = the Common Gibbon (Hylobates genus), the Greater Siamang (Symphalangus genus), the Grinning Gibbons (Namascus genus) and the Masked Gibbon (Bunopithecus genus, Extinct on earth)
- The An'garu
- One Orangutan specie
- and the Giantopithecus (can count as an Orangutan too, and so, 2 Orangutan species in total).
Outside the Known World region, there almost one dozen species of true Gibbons that lived in the Western Continent.
4:50 - "Let us eat the man-creature!" Which of course makes me wonder if there are little kodama-like creatures in Kaimere somewhere. :D
I love the An'Garu! Would I be absolutely terrified of one if I ever were ever faced with them in person? Absolutely. But you have to admire an ape with a nice hairdo. Also buffalo apes?? Amazing. That is a Good Ape right there. Also, shoutout to the way you render hair and fur! Floffy Monkes.
Great video as always!! Something that’s been on my mind recently is the mechanics of how plant life is transported to Kaimere. Do they just randomly appear in suitable climates? Or are the seeds planted by the portal? It seems like an area that needs to be explained. Also if the last harvest was 250kya in Africa, then how does Maize exist in Kaimere? Maize’s wild ancestor is just a normal looking grass. Anyways excited to see what else is in store!
Well, knowing that, when replicated animals, the Portal alway introduce them in the same or closiest biome to the original one where they where taken (like a savannah animal introduce in a savannah or savannah looking biome on Kaimere) it's highly possible that the Portal do the exact same thing with plants.
Excellent question! The portal is actually more invested in flora than fauna, and is more careful in placing them in suitable climates. Would indeed be a topic worth covering.
Maize was one of many crops brought to Kaimere during the 'Mercantile Age' when Kaimerans briefly traded with humans around 3k years ago.
@@TalesofKaimere ahhh that makes sense. You really do have this all figured out! It’s honestly incredibly impressive.
@@jacobjerny7502 Thank you!
Hey ! Keenan ! Do you know Genndy Tartakovsky’s animated TV Show “Primal” ?
It’s an Adult Swim animated series who follow a caveman named Spear and a female T-rex named Fang and their survival journey in a prehistoric fantasy world where dinosaurs, evolved Cenozoic mammals and humans coexist.
This production become quickly very popular and received great positive receptions and awards, for the scenario, stories, action sequences, animation, atmosphere, cinematography and the emotion and feeling this show manage to give without any words being spoken at all.
If you don’t know it before, I highly recommend to you this show !
It’s amazing, and can maybe give you some ideas for Kaimere
Because Primal is a little like Tales of Kaimere : an Anthology where the protagonist face happiness, joy, sadness, death, love, horror and beauty.
Kaimeran and a "tamed" dromeiasaur
@@jungleclutter2686 Yeah, a Cockatrice will be a better option than a Nehamu or a Megaraptoran for the Fang version alter ego in Kaimere universe, if a story novella taking place in prehistoric Kaimere when Homo erectus was introduce on the planet.
A story like that would be very awesome and a great addition to the universe.
Honestly love how the apes of kaimere aren’t gods like how people think they are.
Absolutely. They are amazing animals and their strength is impressive, but very often overstated to the point of absurdity
Why did you change the Giantopithecus design ?
Can we considered the old design as a female or a uncommon huge male specien Gigantopithecus ?
Because, since you used this design in your video many time, it remain in one way or another 100% canon (as the creatures illustrations at the end of the first anthology book).
Old one had a number of anatomical issues, and I've been wanting to redesign for a while but was lacking in time. I also made some adjustments to their fur and features to better reflect their niche and ancestry.
Questions :
1- What about Tarsiidae (Tarsiers) and Lorisiformes (Loris and Galagos) on Kaimere ?
2 - What is the taxonomic relationship of the Water Ape with the others apes ? and his closiest relatives ?
3 - in a recent facebook post, you stated to me than only Adapiforms, Homo erectus' descendant (aka H. altus) are the only major primates outside the Known World, and that the New and Old World/Great Apes were all restricted to the Known Wolrd region due to open-land prairies biomes. But, obviousely, Apes and monkeys must have find their way on all the Western/Arvel Continent beyond the Known World, since almost all these landmass is covered by forests. You yourself confirm in his current video that many gibbons species find their way on this continent beyond the Known World borders. Right ?
4 - There must be apes and monkeys in the Known World and all of the Western Continent. But if there any of these types of modern apes on the Northern and Eastern Continents, it's because due mainly to the Houze Prairie that cut the Known World with most of the Northern Continent (and not allow apes to go farer on this latter and go cross the landbrige between the Northern and eastern landmasses). Right ?
5 - If Adapiforms and Homo erectus' descendant (aka H. altus) are the major primates outside the Known World, on Northern and Eastern Continents, they aren't however the only ones (major word dosen't mean every), and what others not modern and extincts on earth primates orders, as secondary groups, exist on these lands ?
1. They will be covered in future episodes.
2. The water ape's cladistics are not finalized and I will not go public with that just yet.
3. I may have misrepresented the situation in that FB comment. I meant the continents of the known world, not exclusive to the known world itself. There are no plans for nonhuman apes on the Eastern continent for example.
4. If there ever were nonhuman apes in Kairul, it would be as gibbons/small apes on floating debris along the great eastward current and in insufficient numbers to establish a healthy population. Nonhuman apes are only found on the continents of the known world, and yes: the houze barrier and Ushalek forest prevents their spread to the north and therefore the land bridge.
5. Adapiforms and humans are the only primates beyond the continents of the known world. While I may have some floaters, again they probably will not be in numbers to oust the established adapiforms.
Hey Keenan ! Some time ago, on Facebook, I ask you if there was possibility to have Ape-Men beings on Kaimere (because, well... is a popular trope in fantasy genre) and you awsner me that you have maybe ideas as homunculies.
But after seeing this video, in fact, many of the natural apes that exist on the Known World, like the Garden Ape, the Orangutan (as on earth for this later), and An'Garu, can be regarded as Ape-Men creatures since they can walk perfectly upright or/and have really great humans traits in many angles !
The Paradolicopithecus aka Kelani macaque can be also perceived by Kaimeran as a pygmy ape-man.
Same for the unconfirmed relic population of Chimpanzee.
Many Kaimeran must think that all of these natural apes are in fact, thus isn't the case, kind of homunculies made by the First Children between humans and apes.
So, in a way, we ALREADY HAVE several Ape-Men in Tales of Kaimere's universe ! And it's great !
But still, noneless, if you always have plans and will to integrate true Ape-Men Homunculies in Kaimere's lore, so, do it !
Because more they is, more happy and funny the things are ! ;)
As you said, I have many that more or less fit the trope, but there are plans for homunculi with ape elements, specifically the Qajarith chimpanzees that I mentioned.
@@TalesofKaimere Homunculies Chimpanzee ? Sound great and interesting !
I really love speculative evolution and this is great.
Well, I watch speculative evolution videos to get inspiration for my speculative evolution projects.
Heck yeah! Always glad to hear it. Happy worldbuilding!
The side profile of the swimming ape reminds me of a desmostylein, very unique. Also did any asropithicus come to Kaimere?
Thank you! And no, Asropithecus was not harvested.
It's A'F'ropith'E'cus, and not Asropithicus.
Afropithecus was a good animal, but sadly, even if this specie was harvested, she don't make it like Chimpanzees and Gorillas.
Just a question question : what about the H'azi and H'achake oragutans species ?
One of them, the H'azi, must be the Kaimeran Oragutan we see in this present episode, but what about the other ?
H'azi is the Arvelith word for the orangutan, and H'achake is their term for the garden ape.
@@TalesofKaimere Okay, and can we consider the Sep 19, 2021 "Great Ape of Kaimere" DevianrtArt post H'achake/Garden Ape design illustration as the female form of this specie (and the male version form as the current design of this video ?).
I doubt Gorillas died out because of the cold climate, Gorillas are actually better at handling colder climates than Chimps since the former retreat into the mountains in glacial periods & aren't dependent on fruiting trees. If you ask me, I think the competition with Gigantopithecus & the high density of predators did them in.
Hey Keenan, Awesome video as always.
I have to say, I think the Buffalo and Garden apes just look so satisfying for some reason, you did an awesome job bringing them to life!
I have a question if it's not a bother. You mentioned that there might be chimpanzees in the far west of Arvel, do you think that they have genuinely gone extinct or is it just that you haven't gone that way yet in your writing?
Actually, meta question here, so Kaimereans have not gone very far outside the known world (hence it being the known world) but you seem to also want to expand the scope from just the known world to the various other regions of the world slowly. From a lore perspective, is this the scholars of Bulundakoi (I'm sorry I'm not sure how I spell it) sending expeditions out to other parts of the world?
Much love for your videos and your creativity, you can be sure i will be purchasing your new anthology as soon as it is released!
Great work on all of this.
Thank you!!
Haaa finally, BIG MONKEYS (also known as Apes)
Heck yeah!!
It’s Kaimerin time!
Garden apes sound like bonobos a little bit in terms of behavior and size, which makes me wonder how they managed to be the ones that survived when by any logic the chimpanzees with their much more aggressive anti-predator methods, omnivorous feeding and warfare tactics should've allowed them to be the ones who prevailed over troops of enlarged, matriarchal-living gibbons. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me; they're the ones that spread further around Africa than the bonobos who are extremely similar to these Kaimeran "garden apes" altogether, and only exist because they became secluded from chimpanzees and didn't need to be *as* aggressive any longer (even though they're still apes, and therefore have plenty of it to boot). It's the aggression of chimpanzees paired with their relatively higher retained genes for tool use and cultures that allowed them to spread, almost like us.
Aggression isn’t ideal in every context. In some it’s great. Clearly not so good where they were replicated on Kaimere
Keep up the awesome work 😎😃😁🤩👍👍
Thank you!!
So other hominids like Australopithecus were never replicated or went extinct on Kaimere? Imagine if they survived and evolved into a different kind of ape
Were buffalo apes present during the Anchored Period?
Since they have done so well, probably even better than on Earth, Kaimere can be considered a real "Planet of the Apes"! LOL
Orangutans of Earth had much wider range in the Pleistocene and now are the heaviest climbing animal in the world, hardly ever coming to the ground.
Next to us, our close relative the Chimpanzee is a highly skilled tool user, but the scope of what tools they craft varies by region.
Gorillas are the strongest of the apes, 10 times stronger than a man, which leads to the misconception that they are brutal savage ogres, but in fact, they are mainly vegetarians.
Gibbons are called lesser apes in our world, but their brachiation is so great that they acrobatically swing through trees at high speed, making them the fastest arboreal animals.
It's also highly debated exactly when Humans first split off from the ape family tree, with multiple candidates from the Miocene and Pliocene in the fossil record.
We're all part of the same family, right? See what kind of conservation effort you could be part of to save your fellow apes!
BTW, my fantasy world is going to include many apes as well, including my own version of Sasquatch.
Random question: will the Juiji's design be updated (in theory, not necessarily in drawing) to match the new Notzokideu?
The old art is fine, though I will someday do a proper profile of the many species. That drawing represents only one of the many down there.
There are wild sheeps and goats in kaimere? Like Ibex, chamois or dall sheeps
Don't have finalized species but yes, there will be.
So the gloved gibbons don't have any close modern relatives, and are only distantly related to gibbons...
But what prehistoric taxa were they harvested from?
Fossil hylobatids around 12 mya. Since modern hylobatids share a recent common ancestor (4 mya iirc), the ancestor of gloved gibbons is in the same family yet fairly basal
@@TalesofKaimere Aaah ok that's really interesting!
Wojun are sloths, correct? Excited to see what's next, thanks Keenan.
Yup! Wojun are burrowing sloths related to Lestodon
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Hi Keenan, just curious, but what prompted the decision to change the An'Garu from a pongine to a gloved gibbon?
Mostly that pongines are notoriously bad swimmers and it made more sense for a smaller generalist to make the journey
Awesome
The First Children are fucking monsters! That extinct branch of Gigantopithecus apes likely wouldn't hurt a fly....
Probably sounded like Christopher Walken too.
@@samuelscott-schroeder8597 On helium (fucking demon Hobbits).
@@samuelscott-schroeder8597 It's ironic that you mention his name, since it's him who voice King Louie in the Jungle Book 2016 Disney version.
I love your world
Thank you!!
The water ape has to be inspired by the swimming monkey from After Man!
Was just a sensible step to take for fruit specialists relegated to mangrove jungles. Dixon’s designs are, like most spec creatures, things I actively avoid this early in my own design process
How good are water apes at moving on land? I imagine that they’re somewhat awkward and not very fast
10:44 How are thescelosaurs like qotaur able to live well in the highlands while adult megaraptorans and titanosaurs find the highlands unappealing and aren't common in that area?
Part of it is that qotaur do a decent amount of tree shoving in their own right, and descending from burrowing ancestors means they are more sure footed, but mostly it is common drakes and other thescelosaurs at or under a ton which live in the highlands.
I have two questions: what is the general interactions kaimerians have with apes and did any ape reach the eastern continent?
Apes aren't common near settled areas with the exception of Arvel, so there's not a lot of interaction. Apes almost hold a cryptid/mythical creature status because of the combination of their relative rarity near high concentrations of people and similarity to people.
If any apes are on the Eastern continent, it will be in the form of a few tiny gibbons drifting along the eastward currents, and probably not in sufficient numbers to establish a healthy population. Adapiform primates are much more common, and there are ape analogues in their stead.
The Water Ape remind me a lot the Swimming Monkey (Natopithecus ranapes) from Dixon's "After Man : A Zoology of the Future".
But overall, I like and laugh a lot that you have dared to intregrate a aquatic ape ! 😆
No, really, you must obviousely be aware how badly see, controversial and polemical the "Aquatic Ape Theory" is, but you were not afraid, if only for a second, to get your hands dirty ! And I love that !
But, seriousely, what you've done was good and not controversial.
In fact, despite the controversy, this theory isn't a dumb as she seem to be.
She often regarded by most people to be stupid, not scientific and not serious.
But it's a great misconception to perceived this theory as ultimatly being just unviable just because this subject seem to funny or was disregarded on one targeted example.
First, the "Aquatic Ape Theory" is a theory that was imagined in an attempt to explain how and why some of our human characterics/traits exist on us and not on others primates.
And the idea was that, on one point in our hominid lineage history, out ape ancestors pass a certain period in water before going again into land, with the targeted specific traits of us (like the flexible spine or the upright position).
Of course, that never happened, and what happen in reality is with the Australopithecus and relatives facing the evolution of the savannah biome in Africa and many others conditions that made them more sapient ovetime.
But if this theory can't be apply on humans and our hominid lineage, this same theory can however be apply on any others primates and apes, in their own evolution lineage (as futur evolution possibility and not past evolution of course).
I watch some time ago a fictive docuentary called "Mermaids: The Body Found" (2012), a programme airing on Animal Planet that attempted to describe mermaids in a scientific manner (in the same way they did with "Dragon: A Fantasy Made Real" (2004)). The documentary received polemical reception, even a bit unfair personnaly.
In this documentary, they portrayed mermaid as not humans that evolved to live in seas but instead relatives that have diverged from us at the time of Australopithecus.
They show Australopithecus like apes living during one period on coast, and evolved a upright position to better lived with half of the body in water.
After some time, some of these have go back in mainland and will give us, humans, and the others will go to sea and will give the mermaids.
At this point, the way they depict the aquatic ape theory is acceptable, even for our lineage side.
Also, it's quite worth it to mention the "Mers" creature from Primeval, who, like Unnatural History Channel notice it, are indeed a good example and case, even with the theorical evolution Unnatural History Channel give to them, of the Aquatic Ape theory when apply on others apes othrs than us.
It's also important to notice that it's not impossible to a homo sapien human, in futur evolution, to become aquatic ovetime, like the book "All Tomorrows" by C.M Kosemen and "Man After Man" by Dixon, show it.
Because, if in a certain furure started from our current era when I speak, condition will forced us to become more aquatic, it's obvious that our specie will received more aquatic traits to better lived in this new setting.
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All spec evo projects needs some kind of aquatic ape XD. I am quite suprised that arboreal orangutans made a niche in the known world but chimps didn't. To what branch of apes are gloved gibbons related the most. They are closer to dryopithecini or ponginae?
Much like big cats, the more arboreal apes generally found more success. Chimps also directly competed with the garden apes, while orangutans didn’t really have much competition since their size outclasses the other arboreal specialized apes in the area.
@@TalesofKaimere Also, H'azi is a name of kaimeran orangutan and H'achake is name for golden ape or these creatures are simply scramped?
@@1998topornik The h'azi is the orangutan and the h'achake is the garden ape. Some changes but overall concept is the same.
@@TalesofKaimere The old Garden ape/H'achake design can be considered as a female form ?
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This is the way.
Are the An'Garu sapient ? That they have a sapient intelligence ? To be exactly like us in term of intelligence and self-consciousness ?
Because the males is clearly shown with a hairclip within his hairs/mane ! This/Such element are always indicative of a sapient lifeform.
Plus, it's completely possible to this ape to be sapient and to noneless continue a primitive life since the Notzokideu fightless tapejarid is also himself sapient but continue to live an ape-like style.
Right ?
They are of near-human intelligence. The smartest non-human ape in Kaimere.
Are some kaimerean animals considered important symbols in. Some cultures
Absolutely
Questions: do Procyonids exist on Kaimere?
Yes. There are several species.
Kaimeran kākāpō
cool if magic corrupted biology but have strong minds and evo with the mutations? like non-arthropod or are evo multiple tails/ears/eyes or wyverns mutated evo to have 4 legs and two wings?
What's with the bone in the An'Garu's hair?
Their manes can get long enough to be a problem. The females will often braid or tie up their mate's mane, which is what happened here.
I do hope chimps still survive in Kaimere.
A fair hope
@@TalesofKaimere Indeed.
Ape yo ape
How dangerous are these giant apes to humans? I imagine they're relatively gentle overall and go out of their to avoid most humans, but can be curious or even protective in some strange circumstances towards Kaimere children and pets, etc, only getting very violent when harassed or threatened.
It turns out Chimpanzee hyper violence, which kinda worked in their own native Earth habitat, was not a rational and sustainable survival strategy against a broad cast ensemble of non-avian and avian predatory dinosaurs who got their number...
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ehehe monky time >:)
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Heyo
Return to monke
It’s what must be done
APES!
mmmm… monke
Indeed
Monke
what the hell is this?? what the hell is "Kaimere"???
The video pinned on my profile explains it, but in short, it is a fantasy setting made up of animals from Earth’s past set to evolve independently on a new planet
Monke
Indeed.