I'VE BUILT A REAL GLUE COMPRESSOR!!!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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What glue did u use to build the compressor
Elmer's glue
Glue from the audiophile shop, wrapped I gold with gold flakes, smoked with snake oil, drank and then pissed out by the pope.
For a small lone of a million dollars
Gyraf glue
@@parp that was funny 😂
cytomic xD
"they will sound equally as shit in the wrong hands" is my favorite comment regarding compression ever.
Three things addionally.
1. Use a power switch that switches both poles, so you never have 230V inside when switched off.
2. Connect GND of the mains to the housing and to the ground of the circut.
3. Add a fuse
Everything I know about electricity I learned from Electro Boom 😄
Search for "photonic induction".
Don't forget the FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!!
Edit, he didn't forget it, and it was actually a part of the video, nice.
What a great looking build!
Remember, the stock VCAs dont need trimming (pre-trimmed), and if you check the beginners assembly guide, youll see where the LED goes :)
Thanks for making this, looks and sounds great :)
Great work ! Welcome to the Kit Addiction ! lol
I remember hearing somewhere that you can never have enough VCAs. I wonder if it's the truth.
@@MisterNiles In modular synthesizer world that is correct.
I want to make that one
hi, where can i get this kit? I searched your website but I didn't find anything
Having a rack full of great gear you made yourself is outstanding! Very awesome!
I have worked on an SSL 4000 G series console and this actually does sound very much like the transparent nature of a genuine SSL that I remember. The mix you used was obviously already quite clean and good but I very much enjoyed the almost non-existent, silky texture of the compressor across it. Super rad!!! And definitely worth it for around US $800.00 (for the kit and components, not including your extras)
I think it's awesome you built this yourself. Obviously you are an audio engineer first and that is where your main talent lies. However, it is very impressive that you are also teaching yourself the physical engineering and design aspects to the tools you use. I don't understand the negative comments, as if they have forgotten you do many different things as an audio engineer and do them well or have somehow made a claim to have done something you didn't do despite them watching a video in which you document exactly how you did it. You did not say you designed the compressor (although you DID make changes according to history of the device, an actual design and engineering choice).
Also, I recently saw you mentioned by Kazrog in regards to their True Iron plugin, and was very happy to recognize your name in the advertisement. Knowing your Snake Oil series, I was blown away to realize you may have actually said something positive about a digital plugin. LOL cheers dood you are an inspiration
I just bought a Black Lion Bluey for that price. Who the hell you kidding? $800 is fricken ridiculous for a kit. I'd choose my Bluey over this any day of the week too.
I didn't expect a diy kit to sound that good.
Glad you liked the project!
@@GOLY_DK As someone stuck in the software swamp, I'd love to give something like this a go someday. I had no idea this was a thing until now.
VINDSVEPT!! Didn't expect to see you here, love your stuff!!
@@billykranberry6077 Oh, thank you :)
Lots of hate for a guy just sharing his work...
@Infinite Possibilities i dont see hate
the like/dislike ratio seems pretty good to me though.
And people also love to bitch about nearly non-existent hate to also feel superior and morally sound.
You SUCKS boy... Just enloy ...
I guess im asking the wrong place but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the password. I would love any assistance you can offer me!
Amazing. You really are an engineer at heart.
Respect for you're work, I'm about to built a preamp first, this content are motivation !
Famous last words: "Idk let's just turn it on" 19:18
Nice work. Some holes in the case just where the trims are located will make later calibrations easier. May be.
Moderately useful hot tip: If you only bend the resistor/ diode legs over at 45°, they'll still hold onto the p.c.b. securely and be much easier to solder/ clip the excess legs and reduce the chance of solder "bridges"
Also if you place the populated p.c.b. on a tea-towel or the like you'll be able to apply a little pressure while soldering for a snug component fit!
BTW, this was an awesome project to watch you build! More content like this please! 😊👍👍👍
If you bend legs at 45 degrees or thereabouts to hold them in place and then, when about to be soldered, set them to zero degrees (i.e. straight through the hole in the printed circuit board without a bend) the components will be much easier to remove if required. Believe me, too much heat stress or mechanical stress on a plate-through printed circuit board or the component that you are soldering or removing is not good. I do all my soldering in this way and it is very reliable. The tea towel idea is a very good one or you could try some foam rubber or similar. I would also raise my work surface so the eyes are about 20 to 25 cm away and I use a strong light to illuminate the work. I do a lot of surface-mount this way and use cheap magnifier-type reading glasses to see what I'm doing (sometimes more than one pair!).
@@hoppyhopster8498 I just tape the components with masking tape to the top of the board and leave the leads straight. bending them at all is just a horribly bad idea as you pointed out for later removal. But I will put in a bunch and use masking tape to hold them down and solder them. done. No bending allowed or required.
@@Wizardofgosz Good idea, thanks for the tip.
Drill holes to access the trimmers through the chassis.
Loving those Riechelt Elecronik parts bags, takes me back to my first job assembling electronics for a startup
Great vid! Note that for safety (regulations) you should always include a fuse in the power connection. And if you're using a grounded power connector you should ground the case. And while you're at it, simply replace the current power socket with a fused one that includes an EMI filter. They're cheap and will prevent your house from burning down plus suppress high frequency noise from the power lines.
Nice build! One suggestion: change the trim pots to real pots on the case (maybe on the back so you don’t disrupt the front panel), so you can always recalibrate easily without even opening the unit and you can play with the distortion too! cheers!!! :)
Wouldn't you need access to VCA pin #4, to check mV level? In my experience, calibrating THAT218x by ear is easier said than done lol
Nice work! And yes i agree the term "Glue" gets thrown around as loosely as "Love".
I really like your video and tutorial of building this kit. You've inspired me to look into not only the same kit, but possibly more of them. I didn't know these kits were available.
Thank you very much for posting this video in this manner.
Excellent !
In the old days we didn't have kits, I built my own compressor using an LED/LDR module, I made myself.
Apparently it's no longer possible to order, too bad I came across this too late! It seems to be a nice useful compressor!
This was all interesting. but I was also thinking: you have lovely nails, you should try some brightly coloured nail varnish. Just a thought....
This is awesome! I am very interested in building something myself in the near future! ⛰
What's with the snobbery guys?
It's a great place to get inspiration and encouragement to learn how to "build" your own gear.
Great video my friend, thanks for your time
wow i didn't even know this was 'a thing'. thanks for doing it. would love to see more on this and the beloved components we should be seeking out, like the dbx parts you put in.
19:38 "There is no smoke coming from it, so that's a good sign!" - Now listen kids! THAT'S a true expert talking now :-D (I love it)
Sounds great, pretty transparent… Really interested in how it sounds with more distortion!
Built my own GSSL. Love it. I highly recommended it and prefer it more then any plugin. I did have trouble with a bad build as it can be confusing on some of the wiring and polarities..so if you don't have patience then get someone else to build it for you or help you.
I do offers builds too :)
You can make your life easier with PCB holder and a form to bend components. To hold component in place before soldering, fix it with masking tape!
Nice! It actually sounds pretty good, too
You could turn that trimmers on the solder side thing to an advantage. Drill small holes to the bottom plate under the trimmers and you can adjust them without opening the case.
I really like this video. I’m always interested in building equipment.
Wasn't expecting that electroboom reference. Made my day tbh😂😂
Also a big THANK YOU from me! I thought about getting the kit but I wasn't sure if the benefit was big enough to justify the work. Now I know. 👍🏻
sounds awesome!
I say: Drill 2 small holes in the base plate to acmes the trim pots with a plastic screw driver. Thank you for the video, it's a good build.
@Will B - I was just going to say that. Thanks for verifying that solution.
Hahah I laughed at 19:23 when you backed the hell away from it when you powered it up. I've been working with electronics/electricity for years and I still do that every time I try something [usually with mains] for the first time.
Yeah, it is always possible that a component pops... I don't want to have it in my face...
great assemble great video what a sound give me 2 of them nice versatility wow
You could add a simple LED (powered through a simple resistor by the +V rail) somewhere near the back of the VU meter. In that way you have both a power indicator and a backlight.
About those trim pots, why not just drill two small holes lined up with the pots on the under side of the case? Remember the azimuth pots on old cassette decks with that hole on the underside? Same idea, and that way experimenting will be much easier, or just changing it for whatever reason when ever you want to. I'll have to see how much the DBX vca's cost, Canadian money is so far down compared to when I was your age, 30% down which is great for exporting but not importing! It sounds good, and even better in a lossless environment. Thanks for the video, good information and a money saver as well.
Impressive love the sound
Glad you like the project!
I was so intrigued that i skipped til the end, and OMG IT SOUNDS SO GOOD
I always build the power supply first, and test for correct voltages before populating the PCB with the signal components, and particularly the harder to find(more expensive in some cases) parts like vcs'a and FETs. I've built some great mic pre's and 1176 comps along with an La2a build I'm currently working on. It's great to see other people posting videos on this topic! Well done!!
Word!
Dealing with a SSL Clone that seems to be inoperable, do you have a breakdown of wiring for power,bypass, and sidechain, and voltages to and from the transformer?
i immediately ran to the power outlet and sticked my finger in the hole after learning about elictric safety in the intro ;)
Best way to learn it :-)
Ive actually done that before. Once with a paperclip, the other time I had a chrome dog chain and an exposed outlet with a night-light plug 🔌 hanging half way out of it. I took the dog chain and would fling half of it towards the exposed plug/outlet while holding on to the other end of the chain.
Once I flung the chain towards the plug and it touched the bare metal hanging out of the outlet and exploded, with the shocks sending me flying with sparks everywhere.
I was a dumbass kid.
I cut a power cable with cable cutters once.
While it was plugged in.
The spark blinded me and the pop made my ears whistle and the safety switch cut the power, so I was there in the dark, blind, partially deaf, feeling very stupid but grateful to be alive and unharmed to feel all of that.
After a few seconds of silence a buddy that was with me asked if I was ok, I said yes and then we switched the power back on, after unplugging the cable.
We laughed really hard at that point, and when we checked the cable cutters there was a hole in the blades that was exactly the shape and diameter of the copper.
I was dismantling an old TV, one that had the big tube with flyback transformer, well I cut the wire cathode wire? and the voltage from the charged electrolytic capacitor going through the transformer killed me. (Not really, just flew me across the room)
Nice project.
Hi,
You have to add the OXFORD OPTION (or TURBO MODE) to have the real sound of the SSL4000 comp sound,
Because of a missunderstand schematics reading, the one who made this kit at is origin didn't see that the sidechain had to be in stereo signal, going throught 2 disctint VCA and then mono VCA signal (yes you have to add an extra VCA for the side chain) raher than "monoing" a stereo signal to 1 VCA sidechain
The result when listening is totally different
The version you made tend to reduce your stereo width and put the mono more in the back (but it's really intersting)
The turbo version or oxford version (the real SSL4000 comp) doesn't change the stereo width
Try to add the turbo kit and you'll see the real difference, tell me what you think ;)
Built one of these years ago, not from the kit just the PCBs. Really love it and have been running mixes through it for 10 years with no troubles. Oh, except the power up is really odd and I have to flick it on and off a few times to get it to start up. :D
That is probably a powersupply "latch-up" problem. Common with specific brands of voltage regulators (the 7815/7915). Just replace these two with a known-good brand, and it'll probably behave..
@@JakobErland thanks! very good to have some idea what's the problem after a decade of using it! I'm very used to powering it on this way now but if I have a DIY day I'll try that out to fix it. Thanks:).
i love that you quoted electroboom .... that guy is awesome
You should have put offset pins on the VCAs so you could remove them and attach them without soldering to the main board. But this sounds very good. Congrats.
That's great very cool .
Waves is probably going to make an emulation of this...
...complete with the screws because you love them so much.
Great idea!
you should install the turbo PCB addon for stereo sidechain detection it's a must have. I also have a hi pass sidechain filter on mine and it helps a lot for dense programs with loads of low end. Enjoy this awesome FX !
*Nice workaround with the trim pots* .
BONUS - Drilling aligned holes in the bottom plate would give you access to them after assembly ??
Drill some holes on the bottom to access the trim pots.
Great project bro! Thanks for sharing. This video makes me a happy audio engineer :)
"if you die because of electricity I am not responsible" dude you think some dude that is already dead is gonna be like: "It was that youtuber white tea studio's fault!" lmaooo
This is great, maybe I'll try one sometime - good project!
*full bridge rectifier*
So I checked the link. That just is a place to buy the circuit board. But it looks like you bought a kit... I'm a little confused. Any help you or anyone reading this can give me would be appreciated. Thanks
You inspired me to built my mown 1176 hairball audio compressors
Everybody build glue compressor German eBay is full on glue compressor,like ssl! And the prices are low, really low!
Grettings from Germany, like your Show!
Where did you get the case parts from? How did you get one that had all of the holes drilled in the right place?
Please recommend me, trying to have pro recordings guy, your top 10 diy kits to build. I want to start to revive this part of my life from when I was young. It's so fun.
Name of the song you tested it with? it SLAPS
I'm not 100% sure but i think it's sandstorm
Where did u get all the parts from. I can't seem to get the that2181 ic. Please let me know coz I kinda bought all other parts but can't get the that2181 ic
It sounds great.
My thoughts on improvements...
Put an "On" indicator light on the front panel.
Put the trim pots for the VCAs on the front panel, or at least you could drill access holes in the bottom of the unit.
Nice.
yes, that will be more clever to do
At least someone suggested drilling holes in the bottom of the case, way better option than opening it every time you need to trim it. Plus testing with the case open is a good way to destroy hard work by being clumsy (like me).
Sounded really good! No plugin can yet compress 20 db and still sound like a smart move lol
Exactly ... I love to shave off 20db off the front of a snare to grab to ambience and mix it in with the original ... sounds like ass in digital
big case for a pcb and a tranformer
nice one!!
Very good UA-cam channel for DIY audio equipment is ”Götz Müller-Dürholt“. He also build the GSSL comp and is German, but many videos are also available in English.
Love that German dude
Informative and entertaining. 🍻
AMAZING! This is my 2020 goal !
I would love to hear an A/B between the included VCAs and the DBX 202Cs! Snake oil??
I ask as I was inspired by this video to blow €600 on the PCB grinder kit for this and want to know if the upgraded VCAs are worth the money (and time!)
this man is a genius
I was so shocked when I compared the GSSL my brother built me to the Glue compressor, as I could not tell them apart when A/Bing them with a drum loop from the DAW. So the realization was 2-fold one that VSTs today sound amazingly close to HW and second that my brother has nailed the build 🚀
As for where the HW is useful, tracking guitar was amazingly good pushing the input stage with a real instrument creates something that no plugin can match. But once it's digital the difference was gone, even when running it in and out through the AD/DA. HW and SW were consistently behaving the same.
I got confirmation to my findings by speaking with some developers, and some of the secret sauce lies in impedance and how different analog equipment interacts with eachother.
So basically folks if you want to make amazing music today, and you don't record don't let not having HW stop you.
For mixing plugins are top these days!
The SSL mixer and compressor are a part of Reason by the way
Ooooh can I have it?
Was the attack increasing in time as you turned it clockwise?
i knew electroBOOM would show up 🤣🤣🤣
Enjoyed this, thank you.
Quality video🔥🔥 enjoyed alot🔥
This is really cool. I wonder how far you could take this. Like would it be just as easy to build SSL eq's and Neve pre's?
Ever heard of multimeter ?
Very interesting video, more like this, please.
I would just like to say that I love all your videos. I woke up on the 23rd September 2019 paralysed from the chest down. I have followed you for the last two years that i spent in hospital and it has been inspirational and has kept me very upbeat in the way you present all your videos. I thank you for all that you do in the way of guidance and advice. I will continue following you as long as you continue posting. Thank you again. Danny
bro are you better now?
Its sounds so f*** good and its building by your own, be proud! Please share the song name with us.
Why don't you drill two small holes on the bottom plate so you can do the calibration without taking it apart in such a sketchy manner?
Where did you find this info 5:28 about what to use differently when using 202C's ? two 50K pot trim and two 1M ohm resistors. What else? and where does those resistors go? You have a link?
Don't shock your self.
Says that to Electric Boom...
Ensomniux 99 electro boom
Don't be harsh man? I was impressed, I don't know how to do it so it gave me the motivation to learn electronics (I know it's hard) and I enjoyed seeing it work.. I give this 5*****
Really nice! :)
But your lead-bending before soldering makes my toes curl 😂
That sounds sweet! Thank you for showing us :-)
just watching for entertainment this time, always luv ya channel!
greez from basel
i feel you wytse not having compressor stand and having to use some superfancy awsome modules
So pricetag is at 479 Euro. How much would a not self made comparable compressor cost then ?
What did you have to change, when using the dbx instead of the THAT vca'a, other than the 1M resistors?
wao , amazing , how many you spend for all packege ? and is easy build ? congrat for your new stuff bro
Package was 550-ish