April, this is an awesome video, great team work! I would go back over the ceiling and place screws at 6" on center of the perimeter of each sheet with a minimum of 8" centers 'in the field of the boards', (we used old 1970's sheetrock screw guns) even if the boards/sheets have several nails holding everything in place now. (Also I would place battens at 4'o.c. each directions to cover the exposed OSB joints, just fancier for some people.) Use screws that penetrate at least twice the depth of the thickness of the OSB board, but be sure they penetrate at least 1.5" minimum into the ceiling joists, or two times the thickness of the fastened board, which is a "considered standard" or which ever is greater, (ie 1" thick boards requires 3" screws) my 1968 Basic Minimum Carpentry Practices. Many people will tell you this is overkill for screw length, but I learned ""the hard way." Remember, "nothing too strong ever broke." Off subject just a little, sorry. From 1968, at age 20 and during the 70's decade an employee and I could install 20'X20' plywood ceilings in 2 hours, without nail guns! Time was money and I was building/contracting homes for a 100% fixed fee. Less labor used and a more effective use of materials was more profit for me. Again we worked harder not always smarter. The employees (age 40 was my youngest employee, up to age 57) were paid the top scale for carpenters of that era, more than some Texas carpenters as I had 3 from Dallas, who were longtime employees working for me. That said, many things are vastly improved in today's world and much easier but many people seam to make them harder hoping technology is the answer to everything. But manual labor jobs must be done for the tech people to look good, projects still have to be put in/on the ground, like the physical work you do for your videos. I could make a small fortune (if I had a LARGE one to start with...lol) in today's world by offering a fixed dollar cost completed structure. And that is the only way I would want to work, no surprises for the Contractor or the Homeowner. But 68 is too old to learn current construction trends and styles....ahh the good old days. ....13
Glad I happened upon this. I have to do the same repairs in my garage. Unfortunately, it has blown in insulation & it will be a mess! The ratchet strap idea for the door track is great. I was stressing over how to do that part.
I see that everyone has commented on items like fire codes, staggering the joints, off gassing, etc. I got one more. It looks like your ceiling joists are on 24 inch centers instead of 16. To prevent sagging, one by fours need to be run perpendicular to the joists @ 16" O.C.. Use of construction adhesive is also a plus. A fire resistive paint may need to be used on the OSB.
Good good stuff! yep So anyway I will be making some videos as soon as I figure it all out one of them will be how I added storage / tool wracks into my garage between the rafters instead of closing them in like this. the units are basic book shelving unit with filled in bottom / backs, it would be the bottom when their in the up position and back when they are swung down to were we can access the tools or stuff ( paints glues ext. ) real handy and saves a boat load of floor space for bigger power tools and the like. Keep the videos coming.
Yeah the only 1/2" OSB the big box store sells is for roofing. The backing is radiant barrier. Lol, yeah no big blow outs on this one but working together all the time isn't for either one of us. ; )
I see someone already talk about the codes and the fire rating. I deal with fire codes for a living. You also have problems with off gases from your vehicles going to to the living areas. I know Ft. Worth would have made you pull a permit to do that kind of work and would not pass the remodel. No preaching, just concerned. I am glad to see you and Cody working together. Just don't scratch the car.:)
When my Dad was renovating the house when I was a child, he built a square shaped frame out of 2x4 planks with a vertically moving insert which could be slowly lifted up with the piece of drywall ontop using a crowbar at each corner then sliding a screwdriver into 2 holes in each piece to act as a pin. It was crude but worked very well and it saved on going out and buying a specialty made device like the one you guys used. Just a thought if anyone wanted to replicate it.
Awesome job guys! I enjoyed watching you and Cody tackle this project. As someone that is also used to working alone in the shop it can be "interesting" when you add another person to the mix... even more so when that person is your spouse. Keep up the good work and for the love of everything that is holy watch out for those curbs ; )
With the weight of the insulation over time those nails will pull out of the rafters, you may want to go back and add some drywall screws in, so your panels will stayed in over time, nails will always work loose over time with temperature and humidity changes. looks good and iit's nice to see both you and your husband working together.
Beautiful woman who is smart , handy not afraid of hard work loves her husband and can laugh at herself makes you 10x more beautiful. Love your work and attitude.
Good call on renting that drywall lift! I've used a big T to hold up one end while my head holds up the other and that is no fun. Headache for a week. lol Looks much better now.
***** I've tried something similar before. It was a total waste of time. That drywall lift is golden...the lesson is not too cheap out! Especially when doing multiple sheets. So much easier and less hassle.
+Steve Carmichael I spent 10 years fitting plasterboard (your drywall) with just my head and a set of steps, takes practice but in the end I could do a full ceiling with 10 foot X 4 foot, 5/8 sound board :)
As I posted - for my garage ceiling, I purchased a dry wall life from Harbor Freight. On sale now for $215 but with the 20% coupon and then add sales tax, the final cost was $188. They are offered used on Craig List for $150 - so after my use, I will offer for resale $150 and take $125. So my final cost will be about $63. Compare that to a rental. Here a weekly rental for this lift is $200. The HF lift is a well-built product but not as user friendly as the rental. Take care then it is a great alternative to renting.
Grab some orange safety cones, then go to a big parking lot somewhere and place them to mimic a parking slot and practice backing up into them. Do this for an hour or so and you'll be a pro at backing up. :-) Great job on the ceiling, it's looks great, now he needs to paint the walls white to match. Thanks for the vid April!
I helped a guy do a similar job years ago when most people used nails for drywall or whatever they were sheeting with. He was in a hurry because he only had a little time off work so he decided to drive in screws with a hammer. It worked surprisingly well I thought.
You might be in violation of building codes for a garage ceiling, especially for 24" centers. Also, the sheets should have been staggered. Of course if there is a code violation then the staggered sheets point is moot. The garage shall be separated from the residence and its attic area by not less than ½” gypsum board applied to the garage side. Garages beneath habitable rooms shall be separated from all habitable rooms above by not less than 5/8” Type X gypsum board or equivalent. Where the separation is a floor-ceiling assembly, the structure supporting the separation shall also be protected by not less than ½” gypsum board or equivalent. (IRC sec. R309.2)
1/2" material with the 24" spacing may not support the insulation over time. May start to sag if you don't put in some cross bracing between the rafters. Cool that you are getting free insulation though. I'd love to get my garage insulated one day.
great job ! nice to see young love able to work together without killing each other 😊 on a side note here in the uk it would be expected to stagger the joints across the boards to prevent cracking later. we would also be expected to use plaster board (think you guys call it gyprock ? over there) and you would be expected to plaster skim after as part of fire regulations.
For future reference you should stagger the joints for strength. Since you started with a full sheet on the first row the next row should start with a half sheet.
Love the extras at the end. She can't back up but she can go in circles really fast in "some cars...um trucks I mean". Yeah trucks. She doesn't do circles in fast cars. Neveeeeer
Great job. Maybe should have staggered the joints of the osb though to improve the rigidity of the ceiling joists. Also, the gaps between the joints would drive me crazy... I would get some 1/4" lattice molding and trim the ceiling joints with it. It'll give it a board and batten appearance, and hide the gaps. Once painted white to match, it would look great. I also commend you for choosing osb with a heat reflective veneer on one side. This will also work as a Vapor barrier to prevent attic humidity from attacking the osb. Don't worry about backing up the truck. Forget about using the mirrors to do it. Turn your head and look directly through the back window to back up. Much more instinctive and much easier that way. You will be surprised at how easy it was to back up that way.
If you ever use a drywall lift again, pull out the two legs that are on each end of the jack to where they are within a few inches from the end of the sheet, You'll have better support and balance. I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall and maybe a few hundred sheets of plywood all by my myself using my own jack. A few years before I retired I hung a very large garage and workshop using Advantec, which is a superior grade of OSB and no gaps were required.
Thanks for the video, great team work, Being a woodworking enthusiast and motor enthusiast, I'm confused as to who's shop I like more........anyways, keep up the good work, I look forward to your future videos.
5/8" firex drywall for attached garages with staggered seams. With all the toys and car, there's nothing to stop fumes and anything else from easily making its way into the main dwelling. Not trying to be negative, but if anything ever happened that stemmed from the garage, and you're homeowners insurance company saw this video, you may be outta luck with coverage.
Thank for the video...always enjoy your projects. I was wondering if this garage is attached to your house? I live in Northern Virginia and if you have a garage that is attached to living space (house), the entire inside of the garage needs to be drywalled, taped, and mudded for fire resistance and to be air-tight to the living areas to avoid fire hazards and carbon monoxide issues with having a vehicle inside. I would recommend checking your local building codes to make sure you're good with OSB ceiling. If it does require drywall for code compliance, you could still sheet the ceiling with drywall over top of the OSB and then you'd be good (you would be in compliance for codes and you would still be able to screw in anywhere in the ceiling to hang something so long as your screws were long enough to go through the drywall and the OSB). Also, would recommend driving in screws on the OSB...nails are good but can work loose over time. Thanks again for all of your videos!
Enjoy your channel. You should stagger the seams when sheeting w OSB... Drywall... etc. The drywall coming off the ceiling would typically be due to moisture (the roof probably leaks)
Just to second what others have said, check about building codes for your area on fire protection, especially as they can change if you are fitting new ceiling material, plus also about screwing the boards up, not to sure about the 6 inch centers mentioned, now I know it is a UK spec, but in a 4 foot wide board as a rule of thumb it is 5 screws in the end of a board, then 4 screws into each ceiling joist in the middle of the board, if you are nailing it up double the amount :)
no it wouldn't break your neck. I've had a full sheet fall on top of me and I was fine. Granted I had a helmet on, it didn't take away from the fact that my neck was fine.
Nice job! Ambitious project. I too have questions about fire code. I believe if you don't have a room above garage you can use 5/8" sheetrock on wall adjoining living space, mud and taped up to top chord of truss and you'd be okay. Just a though. keep on keeping on!
Gitr done for the free insulation installation! haha. No vapor barrier though? The insulation just sits on the osb? i do not know much about this or texas humidity
Wow, another great project! The old ceiling wasn't really good in shape, as you had seen by the removing of it... you touched the old plates less craftful and they fell down! :D Have fun with the new ceiling!
Awesome makeover in your garage!!! I am getting a list of materials to do the inside of mine and was wanting some pointers I guess. I want to hang them vertically on the walls, but have heard that they need to be offset. Is that true, and if it is, how much offset do I need to make it?
IS your OSB rated as fire resistant ? I suspect not.(not certain of current BOCA code) As your garage is attached, BOCA code required two layers of 1/2 inch drywall OR 1 layer of 5/8 ths.on any wall adjoining the house when I built mine 25 years ago. You may not ever have an issue I realize...but you and youre viewers who might copy what youre doing .understand this....If you do have an issue where a fire starts in your garage and quickly spreads to your house....your insurance company COULD say sorry the house damage not covered...your modification is not code compliant. I have seen this type of thing personally. The most recent was a guy added a small store to the front of his house. He had a small fire which was determined to have started in his remodel.....which was not on record as having been inspected by the county. Fortunately the house was not totaled....but the claim was denied. Folks...be careful what you learn on the internet. By the way, I am suspicious of the drywall that your builder used in your garage. I suspect it was not rated MR (moisture resistant) and its hard to tell but it should have been 5/8ths for that span.
Agreed. In just about every application OSB is not fire rated and my guess is that old drywall was not fire rated either. And layer of ⅝, or even ¾, type X drywall over that ceiling would be highly recommended. And some type X on the walls would be good too. Building codes and insurance companies are fairly loose on grandfathering in old work, but the moment you start to do anything other than topical work you must meet or exceed current code.
Steve Hardy knows what he's talking about, and he must be old too because BOCA isn't the current code adopted by most municipalities these days. It's actually the IBC (International Building Code) in most states, or a modified version in states like CA an FL. Codes are typically updated every three years so it's best to check with your local AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) to find out what the current adopted code and regulations are before doing something like this. Regular gypsum board does offer some inherent fire resistance however the big difference between it and Type X are the fibers that are added to hold the gypsum together while the paper burns away. The original sheathing was certainly a little better than OSB. It appears that no second story exists above the garage so the ceiling doesn't necessarily require a fire rating. It's hard to tell what conditions really exist, from the video, however I can clearly see that the exterior walls have OSB sheathing while the wall that separates the garage from the living area either has gypsum board or plaster, however it doesn't appear to extend to the underside of the roof. It stops at the horizontal joists (I think) when it should extend to the sloped roof rafters. It would need to extend to roof in order to be affective, so it's possible that the removed gypsum board was originally fulfilling the need to provide separation, when the house was originally built. Bottom line, I would argue that it does still matter and I am surprised that a home inspection didn't catch this. I would remove this video from UA-cam if I was April. It could become a liability with the future homeowners.
+Bruce A. Ulrich I've never seen it here in NY, but have heard of before, basically its just radiant OSB. Here is a link to some info on it. www.buildgp.com/thermostat-radiant-barrier-faq
Nice trick in painting!! Never enjoy painting ceilings! Here though you would not be allowed to use anything other than a fire rated drywall and no gaps of any kind at all in a garage for walls or ceiling.
you two are so funny. I know he was just being a smartallic but if it makes you feel better I tease my wife about how she backs in too. I'm looking at doing the same thing to our garage at our new house the only thing I won't have to do is pop the breaker because the last people that lived here yanked the power line off the garage when they got evicted
Great video like your getting your family in video to i plan on building hunting cabin and will be trying to find that type of OSB never seen it before.Keep up the great work and god bless
Good job and cool to see you two working together. I hope one of those Dirt bikes is yours( my wife rides and I love going out together)! Cool deal on the neighborhood insulation. Did everyone just pitch in a little for rental of the machine and materials? I like the idea of OSB for the ceiling. Makes it easy to hang things. I have a lot of stuff stored on my ceiling. Ladders and such.
Looks awesome !! Did you have to take a magnet to the driveway to make sure no nails went into tires? Pulling nails from rafters had to be my least favorite job in doing a similar project. Thanks for sharing!!
Only because I haven't seen a similar comment/question, is there a reason behind starting the full sheets on the same side? I've always been taught to stagger seams for strength and appearance. My second question is whether you followed up the nails with screws. If you're looking to attach thing to the ceiling 'willy-nilly' then the nails may back off over time.
You did fine backing up! You didn't hit anything. In aviation circles, we say a good landing is any landing you can walk away from; a great landing is where they get to use the airplane again. You get to use your truck again! I had the same problem with the wallboard falling from my carport ceiling. Nailing wallboard to the ceiling is never a good idea in my experience. Sure it will last for a while, until the home warranty expires.
When i work with my dad i always end up pulling the nails and i have found that using a long crowbar i the easiest and fastest way to do so because you dont need to constantly move the ladder.
April, this is an awesome video, great team work!
I would go back over the ceiling and place screws at 6" on center of the perimeter of each sheet with a minimum of 8" centers 'in the field of the boards', (we used old 1970's sheetrock screw guns) even if the boards/sheets have several nails holding everything in place now. (Also I would place battens at 4'o.c. each directions to cover the exposed OSB joints, just fancier for some people.) Use screws that penetrate at least twice the depth of the thickness of the OSB board, but be sure they penetrate at least 1.5" minimum into the ceiling joists, or two times the thickness of the fastened board, which is a "considered standard" or which ever is greater, (ie 1" thick boards requires 3" screws) my 1968 Basic Minimum Carpentry Practices. Many people will tell you this is overkill for screw length, but I learned ""the hard way."
Remember, "nothing too strong ever broke."
Off subject just a little, sorry.
From 1968, at age 20 and during the 70's decade an employee and I could install 20'X20' plywood ceilings in 2 hours, without nail guns! Time was money and I was building/contracting homes for a 100% fixed fee. Less labor used and a more effective use of materials was more profit for me. Again we worked harder not always smarter. The employees (age 40 was my youngest employee, up to age 57) were paid the top scale for carpenters of that era, more than some Texas carpenters as I had 3 from Dallas, who were longtime employees working for me. That said, many things are vastly improved in today's world and much easier but many people seam to make them harder hoping technology is the answer to everything. But manual labor jobs must be done for the tech people to look good, projects still have to be put in/on the ground, like the physical work you do for your videos.
I could make a small fortune (if I had a LARGE one to start with...lol) in today's world by offering a fixed dollar cost completed structure. And that is the only way I would want to work, no surprises for the Contractor or the Homeowner. But 68 is too old to learn current construction trends and styles....ahh the good old days.
....13
Great teamwork. Oh, the joys of overhead sheet work.....a lift is WITHOUT DOUBT the only way to go. Is that a DIYTyler "Hair Pin" I see @0:10 ??
Lol, Yeah I love your pencil the best because it's orange.
Glad I happened upon this. I have to do the same repairs in my garage. Unfortunately, it has blown in insulation & it will be a mess! The ratchet strap idea for the door track is great. I was stressing over how to do that part.
Girl you need ur own show! Love the projects you get done!!!! Amazing Amazing 👏
Been there too many times.
Own a hundred year old home. Your garage is my every day life...lol
Great job April
I see that everyone has commented on items like fire codes, staggering the joints, off gassing, etc. I got one more. It looks like your ceiling joists are on 24 inch centers instead of 16. To prevent sagging, one by fours need to be run perpendicular to the joists @ 16" O.C.. Use of construction adhesive is also a plus. A fire resistive paint may need to be used on the OSB.
Good good stuff! yep So anyway I will be making some videos as soon as I figure it all out one of them will be how I added storage / tool wracks into my garage between the rafters instead of closing them in like this. the units are basic book shelving unit with filled in bottom / backs, it would be the bottom when their in the up position and back when they are swung down to were we can access the tools or stuff ( paints glues ext. ) real handy and saves a boat load of floor space for bigger power tools and the like. Keep the videos coming.
Never saw OSB with that type of backing on it. Great job, no violence at all. I can't work with my wife.
Yeah the only 1/2" OSB the big box store sells is for roofing. The backing is radiant barrier. Lol, yeah no big blow outs on this one but working together all the time isn't for either one of us. ; )
I see someone already talk about the codes and the fire rating. I deal with fire codes for a living. You also have problems with off gases from your vehicles going to to the living areas. I know Ft. Worth would have made you pull a permit to do that kind of work and would not pass the remodel. No preaching, just concerned. I am glad to see you and Cody working together. Just don't scratch the car.:)
Oh Boy, that Garage sure is coming along nicely. Excellent work, Looks Fantastic!
I just did this to my new garage/shop this weekend, The drywall lift is definitely the way to go.
When my Dad was renovating the house when I was a child, he built a square shaped frame out of 2x4 planks with a vertically moving insert which could be slowly lifted up with the piece of drywall ontop using a crowbar at each corner then sliding a screwdriver into 2 holes in each piece to act as a pin. It was crude but worked very well and it saved on going out and buying a specialty made device like the one you guys used.
Just a thought if anyone wanted to replicate it.
Awesome job guys! I enjoyed watching you and Cody tackle this project. As someone that is also used to working alone in the shop it can be "interesting" when you add another person to the mix... even more so when that person is your spouse. Keep up the good work and for the love of everything that is holy watch out for those curbs ; )
With the weight of the insulation over time those nails will pull out of the rafters, you may want to go back and add some drywall screws in, so your panels will stayed in over time, nails will always work loose over time with temperature and humidity changes. looks good and iit's nice to see both you and your husband working together.
Oh good tip! I'll go back and add a few.
I left mine open for extra storage space and ventilation. Nice finished look on your project.
Hahahahahaha...I love that he said good luck...and then you actually needed it to back the truck up!! Good stuff, love you guys!!!
Hit the curb or the car......Good choice! LOL Great seeing a video with you and Cody working together.....Love to see more!
Cody's headshake when she was backing up..... hilarious, he knew what was coming!! Lmao!
Beautiful woman who is smart , handy not afraid of hard work loves her husband and can laugh at herself makes you 10x more beautiful. Love your work and attitude.
Ah, the good old B.C. days (before Covid). Today the OSB alone is nearly $500. Y'all did good.
Hey April, it funny how everyone must point out everything you did wrong, didn't do, etc. Great video!
Haha yeah, it's the nature of things. ; )
Good call on renting that drywall lift! I've used a big T to hold up one end while my head holds up the other and that is no fun. Headache for a week. lol Looks much better now.
+Steve Carmichael I did the same thing. Why!!!!! I wish I had that thing.
***** I've tried something similar before. It was a total waste of time. That drywall lift is golden...the lesson is not too cheap out! Especially when doing multiple sheets. So much easier and less hassle.
+Steve Carmichael I spent 10 years fitting plasterboard (your drywall) with just my head and a set of steps, takes practice but in the end I could do a full ceiling with 10 foot X 4 foot, 5/8 sound board :)
As I posted - for my garage ceiling, I purchased a dry wall life from Harbor Freight. On sale now for $215 but with the 20% coupon and then add sales tax, the final cost was $188. They are offered used on Craig List for $150 - so after my use, I will offer for resale $150 and take $125. So my final cost will be about $63. Compare that to a rental. Here a weekly rental for this lift is $200. The HF lift is a well-built product but not as user friendly as the rental. Take care then it is a great alternative to renting.
Grab some orange safety cones, then go to a big parking lot somewhere and place them to mimic a parking slot and practice backing up into them. Do this for an hour or so and you'll be a pro at backing up. :-) Great job on the ceiling, it's looks great, now he needs to paint the walls white to match. Thanks for the vid April!
It was fun seeing you all working together. Nice job.
I helped a guy do a similar job years ago when most people used nails for drywall or whatever they were sheeting with. He was in a hurry because he only had a little time off work so he decided to drive in screws with a hammer. It worked surprisingly well I thought.
You might be in violation of building codes for a garage ceiling, especially for 24" centers. Also, the sheets should have been staggered. Of course if there is a code violation then the staggered sheets point is moot. The garage shall be separated from the residence and its attic area by not less than ½” gypsum board applied to the garage side. Garages beneath habitable rooms shall be separated from all habitable rooms above by not less than 5/8” Type X gypsum board or equivalent. Where the separation is a floor-ceiling assembly, the structure supporting the separation shall also be protected by not less than ½” gypsum board or equivalent. (IRC sec. R309.2)
1/2" material with the 24" spacing may not support the insulation over time. May start to sag if you don't put in some cross bracing between the rafters. Cool that you are getting free insulation though. I'd love to get my garage insulated one day.
At 3:15 I lost my mind. She gave him that little wink lmao. That was frickin adorable :D
I saw your video before you didn't wear gloves. Today you did. That's good. PPE should be wear all the time.
Hi April,
You and Cody work well together. Hope we see more of the both of you. Great comment about your truck. :-)
April, driver's side reverse light
is out, on the Toyota truck.
GREAT video!
steve
great job ! nice to see young love able to work together without killing each other 😊
on a side note here in the uk it would be expected to stagger the joints across the boards to prevent cracking later. we would also be expected to use plaster board (think you guys call it gyprock ? over there) and you would be expected to plaster skim after as part of fire regulations.
For future reference you should stagger the joints for strength. Since you started with a full sheet on the first row the next row should start with a half sheet.
Oh good info, thanks.
It's a nice teamwork ..... and well done ... congratulations April...
you shouldn't use ellipsis like this, it makes you come off as a sarcastic douchebag.
Love the extras at the end. She can't back up but she can go in circles really fast in "some cars...um trucks I mean". Yeah trucks. She doesn't do circles in fast cars. Neveeeeer
Great job. Maybe should have staggered the joints of the osb though to improve the rigidity of the ceiling joists. Also, the gaps between the joints would drive me crazy... I would get some 1/4" lattice molding and trim the ceiling joints with it. It'll give it a board and batten appearance, and hide the gaps. Once painted white to match, it would look great. I also commend you for choosing osb with a heat reflective veneer on one side. This will also work as a Vapor barrier to prevent attic humidity from attacking the osb.
Don't worry about backing up the truck. Forget about using the mirrors to do it. Turn your head and look directly through the back window to back up. Much more instinctive and much easier that way. You will be surprised at how easy it was to back up that way.
OSB with radiant foil backer on it ! how cool is that ! I wish my home depot had that in stock
Hi April , I was just wondering everywhere I lived the garage had to have a fire rated sheet rock is Texas different ?
Actually that's a pretty cool project to do!! I like the idea of a painted, reflective OSB wall for a garage.
Doesn't meet building code though and could invalidate insurance in event of a fire, Drywall only in an attached garage.
If you ever use a drywall lift again, pull out the two legs that are on each end of the jack to where they are within a few inches from the end of the sheet, You'll have better support and balance. I've hung thousands of sheets of drywall and maybe a few hundred sheets of plywood all by my myself using my own jack. A few years before I retired I hung a very large garage and workshop using Advantec, which is a superior grade of OSB and no gaps were required.
Thanks for the video, great team work, Being a woodworking enthusiast and motor enthusiast, I'm confused as to who's shop I like more........anyways, keep up the good work, I look forward to your future videos.
the drywall lift is a godsend. I did a whole house by myself with one of these.
Thank You for doing this video. Now my issue with my garage ceiling makes sense.
Genius move using a ratchet strap when doing the garage door. Can’t believe I haven’t thought of that before, could have saved me so much grief
You're a little genius you have very good eye for project work 😊
Thank you!
5/8" firex drywall for attached garages with staggered seams. With all the toys and car, there's nothing to stop fumes and anything else from easily making its way into the main dwelling.
Not trying to be negative, but if anything ever happened that stemmed from the garage, and you're homeowners insurance company saw this video, you may be outta luck with coverage.
Thank for the video...always enjoy your projects. I was wondering if this garage is attached to your house? I live in Northern Virginia and if you have a garage that is attached to living space (house), the entire inside of the garage needs to be drywalled, taped, and mudded for fire resistance and to be air-tight to the living areas to avoid fire hazards and carbon monoxide issues with having a vehicle inside. I would recommend checking your local building codes to make sure you're good with OSB ceiling. If it does require drywall for code compliance, you could still sheet the ceiling with drywall over top of the OSB and then you'd be good (you would be in compliance for codes and you would still be able to screw in anywhere in the ceiling to hang something so long as your screws were long enough to go through the drywall and the OSB). Also, would recommend driving in screws on the OSB...nails are good but can work loose over time. Thanks again for all of your videos!
Agree I think that is code every where.
my father had to do this with his garage even though the house had asbestos siding.
updated lighting too, awesome that will make a nice change for him, & see you both worked together nicely :) looks great
Drywall lifts are awesome. I bought one for about $150 about 10 years ago. Used it last week to move my air filter.
You did good as a team recovering the ceiling. BTW nice looking C6.
Nice job! It's great to see a couple work well together to accomplish this task. Liked this video 4 sure.
Enjoy your channel. You should stagger the seams when sheeting w OSB... Drywall... etc. The drywall coming off the ceiling would typically be due to moisture (the roof probably leaks)
Looks much better and brighter
Just to second what others have said, check about building codes for your area on fire protection, especially as they can change if you are fitting new ceiling material, plus also about screwing the boards up, not to sure about the 6 inch centers mentioned, now I know it is a UK spec, but in a 4 foot wide board as a rule of thumb it is 5 screws in the end of a board, then 4 screws into each ceiling joist in the middle of the board, if you are nailing it up double the amount :)
I actually found your channel via Diresta after binging through his entire channel.
You're awesome! Subscribing!
Great job and video, with teamwork thrown in for good measure. Thanks for sharing.
Although this project was years ago, it was fun and knowledgable watching. Everything except the doughnuts!!! LOL.
I didn't notice any new ply going up for an attic floor?? The lighting looks much better now as well....
Excellent video April. Thanks for showing this.
Good call on renting a drywall lifter, April. They work awesome!
cool to see cody´s shop...and of course you guys working together! sweet rides :)
Woah.. scary how easy the drywall falls down. Good work, guys!
+Toolify Scary indeed, those sheets are HEAVY. I'm willing to bet it could break your neck if you were under it. :(
no it wouldn't break your neck. I've had a full sheet fall on top of me and I was fine. Granted I had a helmet on, it didn't take away from the fact that my neck was fine.
Just because your neck didn't break, doesn't mean it can't happen. I mean, that's a pretty silly statement.
Any time the dogs or husband make the video, that's a big plus!
Nice job! Ambitious project. I too have questions about fire code. I believe if you don't have a room above garage you can use 5/8" sheetrock on wall adjoining living space, mud and taped up to top chord of truss and you'd be okay. Just a though. keep on keeping on!
Well done! I'm surprised Cody was parking his car in the garage. That sheetrock came off scary easy. I'm jealous of the big boy toys. :)
Gitr done for the free insulation installation! haha. No vapor barrier though? The insulation just sits on the osb? i do not know much about this or texas humidity
Looks like there are a lot of fun toys in that garage! Awesome to see you two working together:)
Great job guys. now I am thinking about doing this in my garage.
Getting ready to put a white metal ceiling in my detached garage! Great tips here!!
watching your video was great to get ideas for when i get my garage up ..... So thankx
looks like you had fun. that rent-a-thingy probably saved you guys a lot of time and sore muscles, good thinking!
I had to stop and rewind... was that a door in the attic? Looks great!
Wow, another great project!
The old ceiling wasn't really good in shape, as you had seen by the removing of it... you touched the old plates less craftful and they fell down! :D
Have fun with the new ceiling!
Drywall lifter. That's what I got out of it. Didn't think to use one of those. Nice work.
Awesome makeover in your garage!!! I am getting a list of materials to do the inside of mine and was wanting some pointers I guess. I want to hang them vertically on the walls, but have heard that they need to be offset. Is that true, and if it is, how much offset do I need to make it?
I live by the words, drywall ceiling? "Lets rent a drywall lift". I love those things
Good forethought with the radiant barrier backing on the OSB.
Great collab! Have a super Sunday April! 😉 Oh...you need a new bulb for your reverse light on the drivers side😜
; ) Haha yeah yeah, it's on the list. You have a good Sunday as well.
IS your OSB rated as fire resistant ? I suspect not.(not certain of current BOCA code) As your garage is attached, BOCA code required two layers of 1/2 inch drywall OR 1 layer of 5/8 ths.on any wall adjoining the house when I built mine 25 years ago. You may not ever have an issue I realize...but you and youre viewers who might copy what youre doing .understand this....If you do have an issue where a fire starts in your garage and quickly spreads to your house....your insurance company COULD say sorry the house damage not covered...your modification is not code compliant. I have seen this type of thing personally. The most recent was a guy added a small store to the front of his house. He had a small fire which was determined to have started in his remodel.....which was not on record as having been inspected by the county. Fortunately the house was not totaled....but the claim was denied. Folks...be careful what you learn on the internet. By the way, I am suspicious of the drywall that your builder used in your garage. I suspect it was not rated MR (moisture resistant) and its hard to tell but it should have been 5/8ths for that span.
Agreed. In just about every application OSB is not fire rated and my guess is that old drywall was not fire rated either. And layer of ⅝, or even ¾, type X drywall over that ceiling would be highly recommended. And some type X on the walls would be good too. Building codes and insurance companies are fairly loose on grandfathering in old work, but the moment you start to do anything other than topical work you must meet or exceed current code.
Steven Hardy Doesn't matter now that they're moving
Steve Hardy knows what he's talking about, and he must be old too because BOCA isn't the current code adopted by most municipalities these days. It's actually the IBC (International Building Code) in most states, or a modified version in states like CA an FL. Codes are typically updated every three years so it's best to check with your local AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) to find out what the current adopted code and regulations are before doing something like this.
Regular gypsum board does offer some inherent fire resistance however the big difference between it and Type X are the fibers that are added to hold the gypsum together while the paper burns away. The original sheathing was certainly a little better than OSB.
It appears that no second story exists above the garage so the ceiling doesn't necessarily require a fire rating. It's hard to tell what conditions really exist, from the video, however I can clearly see that the exterior walls have OSB sheathing while the wall that separates the garage from the living area either has gypsum board or plaster, however it doesn't appear to extend to the underside of the roof. It stops at the horizontal joists (I think) when it should extend to the sloped roof rafters. It would need to extend to roof in order to be affective, so it's possible that the removed gypsum board was originally fulfilling the need to provide separation, when the house was originally built.
Bottom line, I would argue that it does still matter and I am surprised that a home inspection didn't catch this. I would remove this video from UA-cam if I was April. It could become a liability with the future homeowners.
+Steve If you think you can close every loophole an insurance company can use to deny your claim, well, good luck with that, lol.
Glad you didn't get hurt at 1:36 when the old sheetrock attacked you.
I've never seen OSB with a silver backing. What was that? Good idea to just paint that white instead of drywall. Looks nice.
+Bruce A. Ulrich I've never seen it here in NY, but have heard of before, basically its just radiant OSB. Here is a link to some info on it. www.buildgp.com/thermostat-radiant-barrier-faq
hi April ive just subscribed love your videos wish i had half your talent with wood. love your little wave at the end .
Nice trick in painting!! Never enjoy painting ceilings! Here though you would not be allowed to use anything other than a fire rated drywall and no gaps of any kind at all in a garage for walls or ceiling.
Great job thAt board lifter is a dream plus I love that mini on the driveway
you two are so funny. I know he was just being a smartallic but if it makes you feel better I tease my wife about how she backs in too. I'm looking at doing the same thing to our garage at our new house the only thing I won't have to do is pop the breaker because the last people that lived here yanked the power line off the garage when they got evicted
great job you 2! looks much better and will last a lot longer!
not a small job ,but some jobs are necessary---- good job. that dry wall didnt seem that old? wonder what caused it ?vapor ?heat? past roof leaks?
Great video like your getting your family in video to i plan on building hunting cabin and will be trying to find that type of OSB never seen it before.Keep up the great work and god bless
Good job and cool to see you two working together. I hope one of those Dirt bikes is yours( my wife rides and I love going out together)! Cool deal on the neighborhood insulation. Did everyone just pitch in a little for rental of the machine and materials? I like the idea of OSB for the ceiling. Makes it easy to hang things. I have a lot of stuff stored on my ceiling. Ladders and such.
Looks awesome !! Did you have to take a magnet to the driveway to make sure no nails went into tires? Pulling nails from rafters had to be my least favorite job in doing a similar project. Thanks for sharing!!
I just swept the garage really well, with everything from the floor moved out it was really easy. : )
Only because I haven't seen a similar comment/question, is there a reason behind starting the full sheets on the same side? I've always been taught to stagger seams for strength and appearance. My second question is whether you followed up the nails with screws. If you're looking to attach thing to the ceiling 'willy-nilly' then the nails may back off over time.
If the nails are ring shank or screw type, then no worry but screws are the best.
Good job April! But you need to be careful. Love you!
2:17 - #spidercody lol!
Lol! ; )
Great video as always April.
Aww that was too cute, husband and wife working together like that! :D
New ceiling looks great.
You did fine backing up! You didn't hit anything. In aviation circles, we say a good landing is any landing you can walk away from; a great landing is where they get to use the airplane again. You get to use your truck again! I had the same problem with the wallboard falling from my carport ceiling. Nailing wallboard to the ceiling is never a good idea in my experience. Sure it will last for a while, until the home warranty expires.
Good job thanks for the tutorial. Is there any reason why you didn’t isolate the ceiling are we supposed to isolate only the walls ??
When i work with my dad i always end up pulling the nails and i have found that using a long crowbar i the easiest and fastest way to do so because you dont need to constantly move the ladder.
very good, I hope and have driver's license hahaha, the material used is thermal and anti mo and termites ???