Count dooku/Darth Tyrannus actually died when he lost his hands. All that was left was an old man, too shocked and scared to even speak. Sir Christopher Lee was truly one of the greatest humans to ever live.
Dooku was an outcast during his time in the Jedi order and was ostracized by the majority of his peers for just being way better than them. Even though they didn't see eye to eye on everything he had a great relationship with Qui-Gon and was pretty much the only Jedi he fully respected and trusted. Full disclosure I didn't do any of this research myself I learned all of it from other videos on this channel 😅😂
@theshadowstrike6 Nope, you did a decent summary. Dooku and Anakin WERE actually very much alike, this is correct. Both are prodigies in Force aptitude that rarely surface (Anakin moreso for obvious reasons). Both had a mistrust of the Jedi and the very philosophy the Jedi held, and also disputed the Jedi Council as to what the Jedi's real role in galactic society should be. Both had superiority complexes because of the skill and Force aptitude they had, and both were literal genius prodigy lightsaber duelists. Both were former Jedi turned Sith. They were remarkably similar.
Anakin regretting killing dooku makes a lot of sense to me…except for at the time he killed him, when you include what dooku did to him in the clone wars
Arguably the cheesiest yet classiest Dracula. And I was pleasantly surprised when I revisited GoldenEye: Rogue Agent and saw he did indeed voice Francis Scaramanga in the credits.
Would highly recommend watching The Wicker Man from 1973. Christopher Lee said it's the best film he had done and despite how old it is it is a very interesting film.
I never really saw it as tragic. Each time something pushed him further to the dark side, he also had the choice to do the right thing. 2 of the 3 times he even had someone there to guide his choice the right way. And with dooku when he had a bad influence could have gone to anyone and explained the situation. How he felt regret and how the chancellor coated him to do it. But he bottled it up. He made a bad choice and could have corrected it but just didn't. He couldn't take it back, but he could do the jedi thing and atone. He actively chose the easy/bad path when he had the option to go down the right path. The only truly tragic thing that ever happened was the council not letting anakin and Obi Wan check up on his mom after his visions. They could have definitely taken a day or 2 to do this. Force visions especially ones of impending disaster were fairly common and acted on regularly. They only stopped him because it was his mom which was ridiculous.
@@chiefsprinkles they course corrected way to hard when trying to treat him like any other youngling. Knowing/being told he's the chosen one and joined under such abnormal circumstances. He was different and did need to be singled out sometimes and handled more delicately.
@@wilrip78The Jedi had lost their way a long time ago before Anakin arrived. Keep in mind the Jedi had compromised their rules throughout the Clone Wars, they even sanctioned Dooku’s assassination before Anakin executed him. Both the Jedi order and the Republic needed to undergo change a reformation if you will.
@@wilrip78 yeah they didn’t even want him at first since he was already 9 years old! Once he was in he was always getting teased by the other students because he was wayyy better than them! Being called the Chosen One from that age up until ROTS was definitely boosting his ego and looked down upon at the same time! The Jedi in all their hubris
I can understand how Anakin felt. He and Dooku were extremely alike. Anakin was good man. He was under pressure for days,no sleep,dreams,worries. Windu was right to kill Palpatine. I completely agree. Anakin hated himself fully,dark side and Vader when he became him. See you soon
The story of Anakin is a sad tragedy. He is my favorite SW character. I have trouble watching Ep3 due to this fall, and you think every time you watch that “not this time, don’t do it!”
What you said may be right, but I think you're overlooking something. It goes back to how his life on Tatooine. As Shmi said, "The Republic didn’t exist on Tatooine." To Anakin, to Shmi, and to the others at Mos Espa and elsewhere in the Outer Rim, the Republic was a distant paradise, where all the problems seemed to have been solved. But none of them were living in paradise. Anakin, Shmi, and all the others were good people trying to survive. They had to resort to your own resources to survive. They had to do whatever you must to survive. They didn’t care about the means. All they cared about was the end - their survival. That extended to other things as well. When they were wronged, they’re going to do whatever they could, whatever they must to correct it. Whether they acted out of justice, retribution, or revenge, it didn’t matter. All that mattered was that the one who wronged them was punished. And they were going to do all that whether it met the approval of the Republic or not. Whether it meets the approval of the Jedi or not. That stuck with him ever since he left Tatooine. His childhood on Tatooine had shaped his way of thinking, and no amount of Jedi teaching could or would ever undo that. And over the course of the war, he did what he felt was necessary to save others.. And he didn't care how he went about it. Tal Merrik was one example. Choking Poggle the Lesser to learn how to save Ahsoka and Barriss was another. In his mind, and from how he grew up, the ends justified the means. From his viewpoint, neither the Jedi nor Padmé could ever understand that because they didn't grow up the way he did. Did his time on Tatooine make him vulnerable to the dark side? Yes. Was he an agent of evil? No. I would call him a dark hero. He said he shouldn't have killed Dooku. But look back to his life on Tatooine. Neither he, nor his mother, nor the people of Mos Espa ever received justice from the Republic. Naboo never received justice for what happened in TPM. Honestly, I don't think Anakin believes in Republic justice. To him, justice is seeing the Separatists leaders dead. I said he wanted them - Dooku, Grievous, Gunray, and all the rest dead. Not necessarily that he wanted to kill them, though there were three exceptions - Dooku, Grievous, and Gunray. Gunray's obvious. Dooku - for his hand. Grievous - for all the Jedi he had killed. If Anakin were presented with the opportunity to kill them, he would have taken it. Gunray, Tambor, and Poggle were taken prisoner at one point, yet they were all free and leading the Separatists in ROTS. We saw how Gunray escaped, but we don't know how the other two did. The Republic had them in custody. In Anakin's mind, the Republic had the chance to interrogate them, learn what they knew, then execute them. And the opportunity slipped through their fingers. He wasn't going to take the chance of that happening here, even if he had already severed Dooku's hands. He can feel regret all he wants, but deep, deep down in him, he felt completely justified here. In his mind, Dooku was going to be sentenced to death for his acts, so he delivered it. Sooner than planned, but... If the Jedi and the Republic had a problem with that, then maybe they should have been more decisive and more active in delivering justice to Tatooine and the Outer Rim Territories long ago. If they had, then maybe things could have been a lot better. The Clone Wars would never have happened. And maybe his dark path could have been avoided all together.
Good point. His upbringing on Tatooine doesn't get taken into account and talked about enough. He spent his formative years, the most crucial ones, evolving as a powerless slave in the harsh, chaotic and lawless world that was Tatooine and at the mercy of the ruthless beings which ran it, a world under the influence of the Dark Side. Anakin knew and had been surrounded by and steeped in the Dark Side from his very birth, and it shaped him. There's a reason the Jedi generally didn't accept older kids, as they might've been negatively impacted by previous life experiences in their most essential formative years, and might become dangerous themselves. That was especially true of Anakin, and it was only very reluctantly that the Jedi accepted him into the order, refusing to do so at first, and they only made an exception because of his supposed status as the chosen one and Obi-Wan's commitment to Qui-Gon in the end. But it's interesting how the Force chose Tatooine of all places as the world for the chosen one to be conceived and born into, a world outside of the influence and control of the Republic and the Jedi, and hardly the most nurturing environment for the chosen one to evolve in. Maybe the Force wanted and needed someone who had experienced injustice and lawlessness, and the evil of the Dark Side on a very personal level, unlike all those Jedi which grew up in the privileged safety of the Jedi temple on Coruscant. Asides from his potential, Anakin’s personal experiences on Tatooine as a child are what set him apart from the others and the reason why he empathized with and cared about others, and about putting an end to the injustice and lawlessness in the galaxy so much and on such a deep level. At his core, what drove him was his desire to prevent others from suffering what he did as a child on Tatooine.
@@enki6676 I don't know about the Force choosing Tatooine, or about Tatooine being a world under the influence of the Dark Side. Definitely not like how Byss from the Dark Empire comics, Korriban/Moraband, and Exegol were. And the closest thing you have to law on Tatooine are the gangsters and the Hutts, and that's not very reassuring. The only time his upbringing on Tatooine was ever brought up was when they dealt with the Zygerrian slavers. And in the course of that, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, and Rex got a small sample of the life of a slave that Anakin endured throughout his childhood. I may be out of line here, but while Anakin would have strongly objected to the Death Star destroying Alderaan, if it had targeted Nal Hutta and Zygerria instead, he would have mourned the deaths of the slaves and those who were innocent, but he wouldn't have mourned the deaths of the slavers at all. He made his point very clear as to how he felt about the slavers when he was basically forced to rescue Rotta from the Separatists. As far as he was concerned, Rotta could have rotted in hell, and if it were possible, Anakin would have arranged to have Daddy Jabba join his son there. He had every right to hate the Hutts, and the Jedi had no right to tell him otherwise. He probably had his own ideas of pursuing and enforcing justice upon the Hutts. Now why he didn't do that as Darth Vader, I don't know. I mean, he hated the Hutts, and the Sith Lords drew upon their hate to make themselves stronger, and the Hutts were as nominally loyal to the Empire as they were to the Republic. To Imperial eyes, the Hutts were a source of disloyalty, and such sources needed to be stamped out. So why didn't he do that?
@@ytafan4068 While Tatooine might not have been as deeply steeped in the Dark Side as much as those other worlds were, it was definitely under its influence. Chaos and lawlessness are attributes of the Dark Side, and those were pretty much what defined Tatooine, which was full of evil, although lesser evil compared to other places. But "you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy" as Obi-Wan said. That was the world Anakin came from. It's quite fitting that this was the world which gave birth to Vader. As for Vader not going after the Hutts, I can only guess, but he was a different person by then, a Sith who believed in might makes right and the survival of the fittest. Very Nietzschean. He resigned himself to accepting the universe as it was, instead of trying to change it, or atleast what he believed it to be, an endless struggle for power and survival, and while he loathed the Hutts, he might've acknowledged that they had earned their place in the food chain. And they might've been useful to the Empire in some capacity, although which I'm not sure.
@@enki6676 I don't know if this is part of the current continuity or Legends continuity, but the mercantile fleet the Hutt had were used to help alleviate the shipping demands that constructing the Second Death Star brought on.
I can't believe Anakin would do anything to hurt Qui's sweet old master. You know the Dukemister actually let Qui-gon have 2 scoops of ice cream on his 27th birthday.
i never read the novel but i always interpreted the infamous "dew it" as a force charged suggestion from palps. anakin wasnt able to perceive it, but it pushed him to take an action that palpatine basically needed to happen right then and there. if you view the events of the movies under the lens of "palpatine was in control of everything until vader throws him off a catwalk" then "dew it" is the moment he put the leash around vaders neck. the leash is exchanged from dooku to anakin and doesnt come off until he can see his son's skeleton glowing 30yrs later. i think if anakin hypothetically resists the "dew it" that he would force lightning all of them right then and there and be clear of three masters and the only person who could incriminate him to the jedi. after that he could arrange for order 66 and probably get the same overall victory. luke and leia are in the oven cooking already to replace vader.
Anakin feeling guilt dosent surprise because I read the attack of the clones novelization where mixed in the grief of shmi’s death is guilt and shame following the massacre . And I know he dose because we see it on Anakins face through padme’s pov . And both actions clearly horrified him even if he lies to himself to remain sane . Both actions clearly cause anakin ptsd . And are key points that palpatine uses to gaslight and manipulate anakin later .
Exactly, I’m glad that you understand that Anakin is a deeply conflicted person. Sadly Anakin never got the trust and the emotional support that he needed from the Jedi. He needed a family instead of a Jedi order that kept trying to shape him into what they wanted him to be instead of accepting him as he was. He needed compassion and understanding.
I remember when that comic book of episode 3 came out (that you are image referencing) and how it came out like a month before the movie.. my 14 year old self didn’t have the discipline to not read it 1000 times and essentially spoil the movie.
I see the story of Anakin as the ultimate tragedy/redemption story, and it fully reveals the paradox of choice. As you say, becoming a Sith is a series of choices, but did Anakin really have a choice at any point? What would have needed to be different, in order that he could have made a different choice? He had a destiny to fulfill. I've appreciated his redemption far more as an adult, than I did as a child, it has even helped me heal some of my own traumas.
Also had Anakin spared Dooku, then Sidious's plans would have been catastrophically flawed at best if not setback at the least Since he showed mercy, that was a step further into the light
Luke had said it to his face, "Your overconfidence is your weakness." And he was right, Sidious overconfidence in his grip on Vader proved to be his undoing. And it's interesting to note that Luke's father made the opposite choice and did not show mercy to Dooku were his son did show mercy to him. Had Anakin shown him mercy it very well could have saved both Anakin from his own fall but the galaxy as well as it's possible Dooku would have outed Palpatine as Sidious right then and there.
I didn't know know that Anakin felt bad it's why he became paranoid about Padma and Obi wan it makes sense as to why Darth Sidios wanted Anakin conflicted enough to make him turn when Mace tried to kill Palpatine
I wonder if there's anything in the star wars books that tell what could have happened if the council had explained to anakin why they wanted him to spy on Palpatine would anakin have been more willing to spy on Palpatine had he understood why the council wanted him to spy on him
Would love to see a breakdown of each different type of clone trooper and imperial trooper and rank their “elitness” and what they were used for! Love your vids!
Anakin was an illustration of what happens when a troubled hero lives long enough to become an even greater villain and monster. He's also an illustration of what happens when one gives into ones most extreme emotions and allows their thinking to be controlled by them. Love in extreme can lead to jealousy. Jealousy can lead to hate and anger. Hate can lead to even greater pain and misery. Until that all that someone has left. And by that time? They won't even remember what love felt like or why it mattered.
Courts rarely give custody to the father. If the father has custody over the child, it is either the mother is unfit to take care of the child or she is abusive.
I really hope the "What If" Star Wars goes down the other Path with the Duel of Fates. They were talking about "What if Padme turned to the Dark Side" major meh, there. If Qui Gon had beat Maul, EVERYTHING would have changed. Qui Gon was not only the one who would have properly trained Anakin, but Dooku would have also struggled. It was mentioned that Dooku was mad at Palpatine when Qui Gon passed. Plus it's largely why Dooku held back against Obi Wan, he didn't want to kill Qui Gon's apprentice to the point it made Palpatine mad at him at times. The real "What if" I want to see of Star Wars is Qui Gon surviving and just how the Clone Wars would have played out, Heck how would Mortis have played out with Qui Gon there as his master. So many questions if the Duel of Fates had ended differently.
I still think, with the added context of how many people Anakin killed in the Clone Wars show, his hesitation to kill Dooku is utterly confusing to me. I need a better explanation.
In all fairness, with hindsight killing him was the correct choice. They would have just be captured by Grievous and Dooku would have gone free, at least that's how it should have seemed afterwards. Though it is a future justification of past actions still something to consider.
wtf is it with english speakers and "coup de gras" which is clearly meant to be "coup de grâce", a "mercy kill / final hit" and not a "hit of fat/grease"... not gonna lie, it always is making me crack a smile, whenever I think about it. It's more funny than bad. Nice vid, cheers.
If he deeply regretted killing Dooku, why did he continue to listen to the guy who told him to do it? He's either incredibly slow(most likely going by the Plagueis story scene) or he's very mentally ill. Nothing in the prequels resembles the tragic fall old Ben Kenobi refers to in the original film. Anakin just seems dangerously fickle and psychotic from EP II onwards.
Dooku understood the assignment before Anakin. They're made for each other. Imagine if Dooku and Anakin both were alive as Sith Lords. Their downfall would be their pride, but it would be one hell of a fight to stop them.
anakin was the biggest hypocrite he didn’t wanna kill dooku “bc it wasn’t the jedi way” but soon as palpatine said do it he did it but when windu wanted to kill palatine his ass wanted to intervene for his selfish reasons 💀
Well it's his fault for not fallow his teachings. I mean seriously he was surrounded but very powerful Jedi's he is one of the few that can talk to a member of the console. He was in denial he always wanted to be evil. I have a very short temper, but I have yet to do anything that I'll regret when it comes to my anger. I mean if empathy and a moral code can't stop you from doing something nothing will.
Did Palpatine have the authority to order Anakin to kill Dooku? I would think so, even without his emergency powers, being the commander in chief of the Republic. Although, I'd think such an order would have to go through a chain of command before reaching Anakin.
Not sure but this video leads me to believe that Anakin's better nature was at play when he told Windu Palpatine should be tried. Or perhaps he was just trying to play to Windu's better nature as an excuse to keep Palpatine alive because he "needed" him.
I don’t get why anakin was so shook about dooku when he literally massacred a whole tribe of tusken raiders 3 years earlier. I know both screwed with him, but I feel like him murdering dooku is a much smaller offense. I don’t see this as a writing flaw. It’s more of a character flaw which adds to complex psychology of anakin/vader
It's the biggest mistake Palpatine made, the reason he failed in the end. Leaving Dooku alive gives Anakin someone to disarm the Separatists before he goes ham in the control room. To start the process of dismanteling the things that will fall into the Rebel's hands
Yeah Dooku might have been a dangerous Sith Lord. But he was on his knees in front of you Anikan defenceless. Really should have been the time the chosen one 1️⃣ took a step back and realised what was going on
I honestly don't see what the big deal was , Dooku was a enemy combatant and deserved no mercy . Besides , Anakin was only following orders from the Supreme Chancellor......... so that makes it all right .
Also if you remember theres no way anikan would have been able to rescue the chancellor, carry obi wan, and keep dooku as a captive, while also having to deal with grevious.
I truly pity Anakin Skywalker. It'd be best to use the World between Worlds to kill Sidious before Master Yaddle's demise...Prevent the Clone Wars, yet allow those good men 2 B born.
I ask all of you jedi sympathizers that would condemn Lord Vader for carving up his rival , what were your thoughts when the jedi assassin mace windu was going to murder Supreme Chancellor Palpatine in cold blood ?
I think you would be a very wise and powerful Jedi. Tell me, where do you see yourself in the star wars universe? And if you see yourself as a Jedi what color would your lightsaber be?
In all Honesty, Anakin should have known Palpatines intentions with him urging to kill Dooku but when he suggested to leave Obi that should have been a huge red flag IMO I mean this guy is supposed to be the chosen one and he's not picking up on this? Being a chosen one you should be able to be even more aware of your enemy then your typical run of the mill Jedi to me this is a flaw in the overall story..... At this point Anakin should have been Sharp as a razor.... And seen right through the BS of Palpatine....to me its BS he didn't see it... I mean even a normal person even a half wit would have been alarmed by Palpatines tone in regards to Dooku.... I mean seriously.... This entire scene is just not believable IMO and it's sloppy overall
Count dooku/Darth Tyrannus actually died when he lost his hands. All that was left was an old man, too shocked and scared to even speak. Sir Christopher Lee was truly one of the greatest humans to ever live.
In shock -- but also had too much ego to beg for his life
@@Ainttrippin bookends well with Palpatine's later snake-in-the-grass begging
Anakin could have learned a lot from Dooku, they actually had a whole lot in common
Could you explain? I'm not disagreeing I'm just curious/don't know a lot about dooku
Dooku was an outcast during his time in the Jedi order and was ostracized by the majority of his peers for just being way better than them. Even though they didn't see eye to eye on everything he had a great relationship with Qui-Gon and was pretty much the only Jedi he fully respected and trusted. Full disclosure I didn't do any of this research myself I learned all of it from other videos on this channel 😅😂
@theshadowstrike6 Nope, you did a decent summary. Dooku and Anakin WERE actually very much alike, this is correct. Both are prodigies in Force aptitude that rarely surface (Anakin moreso for obvious reasons). Both had a mistrust of the Jedi and the very philosophy the Jedi held, and also disputed the Jedi Council as to what the Jedi's real role in galactic society should be. Both had superiority complexes because of the skill and Force aptitude they had, and both were literal genius prodigy lightsaber duelists. Both were former Jedi turned Sith. They were remarkably similar.
Anakin regretting killing dooku makes a lot of sense to me…except for at the time he killed him, when you include what dooku did to him in the clone wars
Anakin did learn a lot from Tyrannus. Probably all he ever could've.
RIP Christopher Lee 🙁
The legendary actor who was Count Dooku and Saruman (LOTR) amongst many other roles
Arguably the cheesiest yet classiest Dracula. And I was pleasantly surprised when I revisited GoldenEye: Rogue Agent and saw he did indeed voice Francis Scaramanga in the credits.
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Would highly recommend watching The Wicker Man from 1973. Christopher Lee said it's the best film he had done and despite how old it is it is a very interesting film.
Anakin is one of those characters who would definitely make the worst choices in an Rpg video game
Fear and Hunger would eat him up 😂
Man… Anakin was really going through it in Revenge of the Sith. Makes his fall even more tragic.
I never really saw it as tragic. Each time something pushed him further to the dark side, he also had the choice to do the right thing. 2 of the 3 times he even had someone there to guide his choice the right way. And with dooku when he had a bad influence could have gone to anyone and explained the situation. How he felt regret and how the chancellor coated him to do it. But he bottled it up. He made a bad choice and could have corrected it but just didn't. He couldn't take it back, but he could do the jedi thing and atone. He actively chose the easy/bad path when he had the option to go down the right path.
The only truly tragic thing that ever happened was the council not letting anakin and Obi Wan check up on his mom after his visions. They could have definitely taken a day or 2 to do this. Force visions especially ones of impending disaster were fairly common and acted on regularly. They only stopped him because it was his mom which was ridiculous.
@@wilrip78 Yeah I get you! So many factors go into his fall to the dark side! If only the Jedi were only a little more compassionate towards Anakin.
@@chiefsprinkles they course corrected way to hard when trying to treat him like any other youngling. Knowing/being told he's the chosen one and joined under such abnormal circumstances. He was different and did need to be singled out sometimes and handled more delicately.
@@wilrip78The Jedi had lost their way a long time ago before Anakin arrived. Keep in mind the Jedi had compromised their rules throughout the Clone Wars, they even sanctioned Dooku’s assassination before Anakin executed him. Both the Jedi order and the Republic needed to undergo change a reformation if you will.
@@wilrip78 yeah they didn’t even want him at first since he was already 9 years old! Once he was in he was always getting teased by the other students because he was wayyy better than them! Being called the Chosen One from that age up until ROTS was definitely boosting his ego and looked down upon at the same time! The Jedi in all their hubris
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I can understand how Anakin felt. He and Dooku were extremely alike. Anakin was good man. He was under pressure for days,no sleep,dreams,worries. Windu was right to kill Palpatine. I completely agree. Anakin hated himself fully,dark side and Vader when he became him. See you soon
Anakin Skywalker: "I regret killing Count Dooku because Christopher Lee is one of my favorite actors."
RIP Christopher Lee🪦
The story of Anakin is a sad tragedy. He is my favorite SW character. I have trouble watching Ep3 due to this fall, and you think every time you watch that “not this time, don’t do it!”
"Dooku was an unarmed prisoner" I see what you did there
You must be a genius among the little people
Yeah, but he did some underhanded things...
Yeah but he did some underhanded things...
Unhand him.
The moment he killed Count Dooku he not only became the next Dooku, but he would become far worse than Dooku ever was
What you said may be right, but I think you're overlooking something. It goes back to how his life on Tatooine. As Shmi said, "The Republic didn’t exist on Tatooine." To Anakin, to Shmi, and to the others at Mos Espa and elsewhere in the Outer Rim, the Republic was a distant paradise, where all the problems seemed to have been solved. But none of them were living in paradise. Anakin, Shmi, and all the others were good people trying to survive. They had to resort to your own resources to survive. They had to do whatever you must to survive. They didn’t care about the means. All they cared about was the end - their survival. That extended to other things as well. When they were wronged, they’re going to do whatever they could, whatever they must to correct it. Whether they acted out of justice, retribution, or revenge, it didn’t matter. All that mattered was that the one who wronged them was punished. And they were going to do all that whether it met the approval of the Republic or not. Whether it meets the approval of the Jedi or not.
That stuck with him ever since he left Tatooine. His childhood on Tatooine had shaped his way of thinking, and no amount of Jedi teaching could or would ever undo that. And over the course of the war, he did what he felt was necessary to save others.. And he didn't care how he went about it. Tal Merrik was one example. Choking Poggle the Lesser to learn how to save Ahsoka and Barriss was another. In his mind, and from how he grew up, the ends justified the means. From his viewpoint, neither the Jedi nor Padmé could ever understand that because they didn't grow up the way he did. Did his time on Tatooine make him vulnerable to the dark side? Yes. Was he an agent of evil? No. I would call him a dark hero.
He said he shouldn't have killed Dooku. But look back to his life on Tatooine. Neither he, nor his mother, nor the people of Mos Espa ever received justice from the Republic. Naboo never received justice for what happened in TPM. Honestly, I don't think Anakin believes in Republic justice. To him, justice is seeing the Separatists leaders dead. I said he wanted them - Dooku, Grievous, Gunray, and all the rest dead. Not necessarily that he wanted to kill them, though there were three exceptions - Dooku, Grievous, and Gunray. Gunray's obvious. Dooku - for his hand. Grievous - for all the Jedi he had killed. If Anakin were presented with the opportunity to kill them, he would have taken it. Gunray, Tambor, and Poggle were taken prisoner at one point, yet they were all free and leading the Separatists in ROTS. We saw how Gunray escaped, but we don't know how the other two did. The Republic had them in custody. In Anakin's mind, the Republic had the chance to interrogate them, learn what they knew, then execute them. And the opportunity slipped through their fingers. He wasn't going to take the chance of that happening here, even if he had already severed Dooku's hands.
He can feel regret all he wants, but deep, deep down in him, he felt completely justified here. In his mind, Dooku was going to be sentenced to death for his acts, so he delivered it. Sooner than planned, but...
If the Jedi and the Republic had a problem with that, then maybe they should have been more decisive and more active in delivering justice to Tatooine and the Outer Rim Territories long ago. If they had, then maybe things could have been a lot better. The Clone Wars would never have happened. And maybe his dark path could have been avoided all together.
Good point. His upbringing on Tatooine doesn't get taken into account and talked about enough. He spent his formative years, the most crucial ones, evolving as a powerless slave in the harsh, chaotic and lawless world that was Tatooine and at the mercy of the ruthless beings which ran it, a world under the influence of the Dark Side. Anakin knew and had been surrounded by and steeped in the Dark Side from his very birth, and it shaped him. There's a reason the Jedi generally didn't accept older kids, as they might've been negatively impacted by previous life experiences in their most essential formative years, and might become dangerous themselves. That was especially true of Anakin, and it was only very reluctantly that the Jedi accepted him into the order, refusing to do so at first, and they only made an exception because of his supposed status as the chosen one and Obi-Wan's commitment to Qui-Gon in the end.
But it's interesting how the Force chose Tatooine of all places as the world for the chosen one to be conceived and born into, a world outside of the influence and control of the Republic and the Jedi, and hardly the most nurturing environment for the chosen one to evolve in. Maybe the Force wanted and needed someone who had experienced injustice and lawlessness, and the evil of the Dark Side on a very personal level, unlike all those Jedi which grew up in the privileged safety of the Jedi temple on Coruscant. Asides from his potential, Anakin’s personal experiences on Tatooine as a child are what set him apart from the others and the reason why he empathized with and cared about others, and about putting an end to the injustice and lawlessness in the galaxy so much and on such a deep level. At his core, what drove him was his desire to prevent others from suffering what he did as a child on Tatooine.
@@enki6676 I don't know about the Force choosing Tatooine, or about Tatooine being a world under the influence of the Dark Side. Definitely not like how Byss from the Dark Empire comics, Korriban/Moraband, and Exegol were. And the closest thing you have to law on Tatooine are the gangsters and the Hutts, and that's not very reassuring.
The only time his upbringing on Tatooine was ever brought up was when they dealt with the Zygerrian slavers. And in the course of that, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, and Rex got a small sample of the life of a slave that Anakin endured throughout his childhood.
I may be out of line here, but while Anakin would have strongly objected to the Death Star destroying Alderaan, if it had targeted Nal Hutta and Zygerria instead, he would have mourned the deaths of the slaves and those who were innocent, but he wouldn't have mourned the deaths of the slavers at all. He made his point very clear as to how he felt about the slavers when he was basically forced to rescue Rotta from the Separatists. As far as he was concerned, Rotta could have rotted in hell, and if it were possible, Anakin would have arranged to have Daddy Jabba join his son there.
He had every right to hate the Hutts, and the Jedi had no right to tell him otherwise. He probably had his own ideas of pursuing and enforcing justice upon the Hutts. Now why he didn't do that as Darth Vader, I don't know. I mean, he hated the Hutts, and the Sith Lords drew upon their hate to make themselves stronger, and the Hutts were as nominally loyal to the Empire as they were to the Republic. To Imperial eyes, the Hutts were a source of disloyalty, and such sources needed to be stamped out. So why didn't he do that?
@@ytafan4068 While Tatooine might not have been as deeply steeped in the Dark Side as much as those other worlds were, it was definitely under its influence. Chaos and lawlessness are attributes of the Dark Side, and those were pretty much what defined Tatooine, which was full of evil, although lesser evil compared to other places. But "you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy" as Obi-Wan said. That was the world Anakin came from. It's quite fitting that this was the world which gave birth to Vader.
As for Vader not going after the Hutts, I can only guess, but he was a different person by then, a Sith who believed in might makes right and the survival of the fittest. Very Nietzschean. He resigned himself to accepting the universe as it was, instead of trying to change it, or atleast what he believed it to be, an endless struggle for power and survival, and while he loathed the Hutts, he might've acknowledged that they had earned their place in the food chain. And they might've been useful to the Empire in some capacity, although which I'm not sure.
@@enki6676 I don't know if this is part of the current continuity or Legends continuity, but the mercantile fleet the Hutt had were used to help alleviate the shipping demands that constructing the Second Death Star brought on.
Well said
Its always interstate to see how complex Anakin/Vader really is. Hes has more layers to his character than people give him credit for.
I can't believe Anakin would do anything to hurt Qui's sweet old master. You know the Dukemister actually let Qui-gon have 2 scoops of ice cream on his 27th birthday.
Anakin knows dooku is qui gon’s master and killing him is not what he wanted if he were still alive.
Amazing look into the troubled mind of Anakin Skywalker.
Anakin should have been suspicious on Palpatine especially how he most abandoned Obi-Wan .
Sidious got Anakin addicted to mountain dew so he'd be conditioned to act when he heard "dew it" 🤣
i never read the novel but i always interpreted the infamous "dew it" as a force charged suggestion from palps.
anakin wasnt able to perceive it, but it pushed him to take an action that palpatine basically needed to happen right then and there.
if you view the events of the movies under the lens of "palpatine was in control of everything until vader throws him off a catwalk"
then "dew it" is the moment he put the leash around vaders neck. the leash is exchanged from dooku to anakin and doesnt come off until he can see his son's skeleton glowing 30yrs later.
i think if anakin hypothetically resists the "dew it" that he would force lightning all of them right then and there and be clear of three masters and the only person who could incriminate him to the jedi.
after that he could arrange for order 66 and probably get the same overall victory. luke and leia are in the oven cooking already to replace vader.
Anikan should've been granted the rank of Jedi Master. He could sure as hell fight like one
Anakin feeling guilt dosent surprise because I read the attack of the clones novelization where mixed in the grief of shmi’s death is guilt and shame following the massacre . And I know he dose because we see it on Anakins face through padme’s pov . And both actions clearly horrified him even if he lies to himself to remain sane . Both actions clearly cause anakin ptsd . And are key points that palpatine uses to gaslight and manipulate anakin later .
Exactly, I’m glad that you understand that Anakin is a deeply conflicted person. Sadly Anakin never got the trust and the emotional support that he needed from the Jedi. He needed a family instead of a Jedi order that kept trying to shape him into what they wanted him to be instead of accepting him as he was. He needed compassion and understanding.
He shouldn’t have done it. He was an unarmed prisoner. It’s not the Jedi way
DO IT!
Unarmed 😂😂😂
Wich was why Palpatine wanted Anakin to do it..
The first major step to corrupt the chosen one
@@larsolsen7825 First step? He had already killed Qui-Gon and supported Anakin's massacre of the sandpeople
You mean unhanded.
It’s interesting how much his mind fractured he saw himself as 2 completely separate people and it makes a lot of sense
I remember when that comic book of episode 3 came out (that you are image referencing) and how it came out like a month before the movie.. my 14 year old self didn’t have the discipline to not read it 1000 times and essentially spoil the movie.
I see the story of Anakin as the ultimate tragedy/redemption story, and it fully reveals the paradox of choice. As you say, becoming a Sith is a series of choices, but did Anakin really have a choice at any point? What would have needed to be different, in order that he could have made a different choice? He had a destiny to fulfill. I've appreciated his redemption far more as an adult, than I did as a child, it has even helped me heal some of my own traumas.
Dooku had information that could possibly have prevented the fall of the Jedi.
Also had Anakin spared Dooku, then Sidious's plans would have been catastrophically flawed at best if not setback at the least
Since he showed mercy, that was a step further into the light
Luke had said it to his face, "Your overconfidence is your weakness." And he was right, Sidious overconfidence in his grip on Vader proved to be his undoing. And it's interesting to note that Luke's father made the opposite choice and did not show mercy to Dooku were his son did show mercy to him.
Had Anakin shown him mercy it very well could have saved both Anakin from his own fall but the galaxy as well as it's possible Dooku would have outed Palpatine as Sidious right then and there.
The coup de grace came not when Anakin scissored but when a Headlamp did
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Another great video, thank you.
I didn't know know that Anakin felt bad it's why he became paranoid about Padma and Obi wan it makes sense as to why Darth Sidios wanted Anakin conflicted enough to make him turn when Mace tried to kill Palpatine
Another great video dude
Well. Anakin is the chosen one destined to destroy the Sith. It didn't say how he would do it.
I wonder if there's anything in the star wars books that tell what could have happened if the council had explained to anakin why they wanted him to spy on Palpatine would anakin have been more willing to spy on Palpatine had he understood why the council wanted him to spy on him
Would love to see a breakdown of each different type of clone trooper and imperial trooper and rank their “elitness” and what they were used for! Love your vids!
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Another great video always learning something new about my favorite character anakin
Your channel has become my favorite star wars channel
Wow paralleling Anakin’s regret and shame in killing Dooku with Mace Windu about to kill Sidious is an amazing insight.
Imagine a world where Qui Gon trained Anakin and then Dooku was able to shape and refine him further.
Dooku was to swaggy to be left alive.
the art in this ep is fire
Anakin: Dooku is a sith lord and I must kill him.
Later,
Palpatine: Yo I'm the main sith lord.
Anakin: Oh cool! Can I join?
Dooku had his mother brutalized and tortured to death.
Anakin was right to have killed him despite not knowing it
That's a deleted scene so it's non canon.
Anakin was an illustration of what happens when a troubled hero lives long enough to become an even greater villain and monster.
He's also an illustration of what happens when one gives into ones most extreme emotions and allows their thinking to be controlled by them.
Love in extreme can lead to jealousy.
Jealousy can lead to hate and anger.
Hate can lead to even greater pain and misery.
Until that all that someone has left.
And by that time?
They won't even remember what love felt like or why it mattered.
Dooku created his own fate. He knew there wasn’t any other way out.
Great video and great analysis of anakins emotional state at the time
Dude I love your videos, I watch them as a last bastion of GREAT Star Wars content.
Anakins life is a tragedy itself
Courts rarely give custody to the father. If the father has custody over the child, it is either the mother is unfit to take care of the child or she is abusive.
With Anakin, he had no father but his mother.
And totally forget the BS canon that Disney gives. The legends one.
He should of pulled his sabers back, and said: I'll spare you if help me perfect lightsaber combat.
I really hope the "What If" Star Wars goes down the other Path with the Duel of Fates. They were talking about "What if Padme turned to the Dark Side" major meh, there. If Qui Gon had beat Maul, EVERYTHING would have changed. Qui Gon was not only the one who would have properly trained Anakin, but Dooku would have also struggled. It was mentioned that Dooku was mad at Palpatine when Qui Gon passed. Plus it's largely why Dooku held back against Obi Wan, he didn't want to kill Qui Gon's apprentice to the point it made Palpatine mad at him at times.
The real "What if" I want to see of Star Wars is Qui Gon surviving and just how the Clone Wars would have played out, Heck how would Mortis have played out with Qui Gon there as his master. So many questions if the Duel of Fates had ended differently.
I love that pic at 1:01
Edit:Okay, I admit I was surprised Anakin could still feel guild after he slaughtered that village, non combatants included, children included.
I still think, with the added context of how many people Anakin killed in the Clone Wars show, his hesitation to kill Dooku is utterly confusing to me. I need a better explanation.
The Clone Wars was made after the Prequel Trilogy.
Anakin had a choice to make but he couldn’t exactly handcuff Dooku anymore…
In all fairness, with hindsight killing him was the correct choice. They would have just be captured by Grievous and Dooku would have gone free, at least that's how it should have seemed afterwards. Though it is a future justification of past actions still something to consider.
I would love to see a what if Windu spoke to Anakin about what he saw on anakin's face in this video
wtf is it with english speakers and "coup de gras" which is clearly meant to be "coup de grâce", a "mercy kill / final hit" and not a "hit of fat/grease"... not gonna lie, it always is making me crack a smile, whenever I think about it. It's more funny than bad. Nice vid, cheers.
The Chosen One got halfway through the assignment and went “Can I get a rain check?”
Awesome video as always but I gotta say Palpatines eyes and Anakins lips are cursed in these illustrations lol. 4:25
If he deeply regretted killing Dooku, why did he continue to listen to the guy who told him to do it? He's either incredibly slow(most likely going by the Plagueis story scene) or he's very mentally ill.
Nothing in the prequels resembles the tragic fall old Ben Kenobi refers to in the original film. Anakin just seems dangerously fickle and psychotic from EP II onwards.
Dooku understood the assignment before Anakin. They're made for each other. Imagine if Dooku and Anakin both were alive as Sith Lords.
Their downfall would be their pride, but it would be one hell of a fight to stop them.
anakin was the biggest hypocrite he didn’t wanna kill dooku “bc it wasn’t the jedi way” but soon as palpatine said do it he did it but when windu wanted to kill palatine his ass wanted to intervene for his selfish reasons 💀
I mean yea… that was the final act towards villainy. The entire prequel movies and series was basically Anakin compromising his morality
i imagine yoda's hate towards him, which didnt need many pretexts to manifest, increased even more with this.
Well it's his fault for not fallow his teachings.
I mean seriously he was surrounded but very powerful Jedi's he is one of the few that can talk to a member of the console.
He was in denial he always wanted to be evil.
I have a very short temper, but I have yet to do anything that I'll regret when it comes to my anger.
I mean if empathy and a moral code can't stop you from doing something nothing will.
My whole problem about him feeling this much guilt is he proceeds to murder chdrens not long after this... he even kind of suffocate Padme as well...
😅The darkside is like a drug. Palpatine is the drug lord, feeding lies to Anakin.
Did Palpatine have the authority to order Anakin to kill Dooku? I would think so, even without his emergency powers, being the commander in chief of the Republic. Although, I'd think such an order would have to go through a chain of command before reaching Anakin.
Anakin was never a good person. He always desired power and believed in controlling the situation thru that power.
Someone messed up. In that comic panel where Dooku is about to be beheaded he apparently regrew his hands.😄
Not sure but this video leads me to believe that Anakin's better nature was at play when he told Windu Palpatine should be tried. Or perhaps he was just trying to play to Windu's better nature as an excuse to keep Palpatine alive because he "needed" him.
Anakin wasn't guilty. No one can resist the power of the dew it.
Dooku was un "unarmed prisoner"
Lol
I don’t get why anakin was so shook about dooku when he literally massacred a whole tribe of tusken raiders 3 years earlier. I know both screwed with him, but I feel like him murdering dooku is a much smaller offense. I don’t see this as a writing flaw. It’s more of a character flaw which adds to complex psychology of anakin/vader
“Dew it!”
It's the biggest mistake Palpatine made, the reason he failed in the end.
Leaving Dooku alive gives Anakin someone to disarm the Separatists before he goes ham in the control room. To start the process of dismanteling the things that will fall into the Rebel's hands
It gives him back-up against Obi-Wan, who fails in the attempt.
Palpatine gets his order 66, when the Jedi detain Dooku first
Honestly I wish Anakin Skywalker would've been trained by an ancient Sith.
By the way ROTS goes I think Obi-wan thought Anikan was a sith directly after killing Dooku
wonder what would of happened if anakin left the order to get help for what he did
Yeah Dooku might have been a dangerous Sith Lord. But he was on his knees in front of you Anikan defenceless. Really should have been the time the chosen one 1️⃣ took a step back and realised what was going on
This makes me wonder how long passes between the start of ROTS and the end?
I honestly don't see what the big deal was , Dooku was a enemy combatant and deserved no mercy .
Besides , Anakin was only following orders from the Supreme Chancellor......... so that makes it all right .
He killed Dracula and then became Dracula himself.
Anakin regretted killing Dooku right after doing it.
He just wanted to hurt him, not kill him.
Also if you remember theres no way anikan would have been able to rescue the chancellor, carry obi wan, and keep dooku as a captive, while also having to deal with grevious.
I truly pity Anakin Skywalker. It'd be best to use the World between Worlds to kill Sidious before Master Yaddle's demise...Prevent the Clone Wars, yet allow those good men 2 B born.
Did he feel this way about the tuskens?
Tbh dooku could have been redeemed i do believe he could have been saved
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Lmao ain’t no way
So could Anakin he's regret shows it
I agree
no, they WOULD do nothing.
Anikin regretted killing count Dookie because he was the shit. Lol
Doku was a well meaning elderly man who was forgetful
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Lmao
Painful, just thinking about it.
But he didn't regret killing the children... Wow
Ah, doesn't matter, I'm sure some random chick already did the same thing 100 years ago...
first steps steps to the dark side... what about the sand people?... what about the slavery in the novels?
I ask all of you jedi sympathizers that would condemn Lord Vader for carving up his rival , what were your thoughts when the jedi assassin mace windu was going to murder Supreme Chancellor Palpatine in cold blood ?
I think you would be a very wise and powerful Jedi. Tell me, where do you see yourself in the star wars universe? And if you see yourself as a Jedi what color would your lightsaber be?
In all Honesty, Anakin should have known Palpatines intentions with him urging to kill Dooku but when he suggested to leave Obi that should have been a huge red flag IMO I mean this guy is supposed to be the chosen one and he's not picking up on this? Being a chosen one you should be able to be even more aware of your enemy then your typical run of the mill Jedi to me this is a flaw in the overall story..... At this point Anakin should have been Sharp as a razor.... And seen right through the BS of Palpatine....to me its BS he didn't see it... I mean even a normal person even a half wit would have been alarmed by Palpatines tone in regards to Dooku.... I mean seriously.... This entire scene is just not believable IMO and it's sloppy overall