Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 Revisited + Filming Locations!
Вставка
- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- Here's my re-review (revisit) of one of the most hated Halloween films (which I love), Rob Zombies Halloween 2! Plus we visit some choice filming locations from the movie!
LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE TO DRUMDUMS!
Fair Use Disclaimer: I do not own any pictures/videos contained within this video.
"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."
Facebook: Facebook.com/Drumdums
Twitter: Drumdums
Instagram: Drumdums
Letterboxd: letterboxd.com/...
Killer Flicks FB Page: / killerflicks
Business Inquiries: Leem6453@yahoo.com
My rating system:
Looped In Hell
2 Hours Lost
Humdrum
Purchase Worthy
Trapped on an Island
Opening Music: In Life's Wake (Incinerator) - Розваги
wow,you changed my mind about this film,I actually did like this movie.
myerscollector712 Awesome! Thanks for watching.
That movie was utter garbage.
@@NinteddyRose shut up bitch! No one cares!
Betty Bros RZH2 is my second favorite in the franchise
@@NinteddyRose so much garbage
Glad I'm not alone in appreciating H2
I think if you separate the fact that it is in the Halloween franchise, it really stands alone as a unique psychological slasher.
Drumdums I agree 100%
i think people overlook a tiny major detail. when you look at the remake of "IT" its still billed as Wes Craven's It. however with Halloween we get Rob Zombie's, denoting one should expect a different take on the story and characters. i think if more remakes were done this way, they would be better. We get to see Loomis in a different light, just as real as the original, because we all know both kinds of doctors exist. Moreover, its just better to follow your own path, just keep the central characters in play.
@@maxxsteelthegod7617 Wes had no involvement in it nor did he create the film it that's a Stephen King film, and Wes Craven did anoes not halloween
Actually, R.Z. H2 did inspired some brutalities in Halloween 2018.
Halloween 2 does go deeper than most horror films and I can appreciate that.
Exactly. I loved that about it.
Mooky Blaylock Um says who? A horror movie can be scary and also have a thought provoking message.
This movie is the most beautiful and painful Halloween movie. Not the better, but is so damn good and unique!
Completely agree.
I love this film it’s probably building a cult following
Always liked this film more than Zombie’s 2007 remake - The way Myers grunts when he kills, the extreme violence, and the dream sequence homage to the original Halloween 2. Lots of great cameos. Most others think it’s “wierd” and I get it, but there are elements of this film to be appreciated. That decapitation with the shard of glass is brutal as hell.
Also drove a VW Golf back in the day so amused when Michael flips it in that scene prior to the final showdown, and then it just blows up.
So great to see that someone cares so much about this film. Basically every reviewer on UA-cam is nitpicking this film to death and making fun of things that aren't even funny or bad. I remember the controversy when this movie came out. Some angry Halloween fans even started a petition to stop the production. And then there is of course this hilarious and unobjective amateur documentary "How Rob Zombie Destroyed the Halloween Franchise", which is basically a concatenation of twisting statements of Rob Zombie and a lot of whining why his "Halloween" is the root of all evil.
I first saw "Halloween II" back in 2009 when it came out and loved it from the beginning. It is such an intense movie. Especially for a slasher flick it's so unconventional and interesting. I love the atmosphere, the performances, the visuals, the rawness and it's free-spirited soul. Also the movie is somewhat important to me. As a teenager I had a hard time to be really me. I couldn't accept myself over a long period of time and in some way this film seemed to understand all this.
So awesome that you're a fan of H2. Love your channel!
Best wishes from Germany
Thanks so much man. Yeah I can tell you're passionate about this film like I am...and that's awesome.
FilmfundeGER same, everyone hates it but its so GOOOOD
Are you kidding me? That documentary shed light on this film and he actually was right. Rob Zombie made the movie unwatchable and ruined Michael Myers. And what statements did he actually twist? They were really shit that Rob Zombie really said
@FilmfundeGER I also liked H2.
@outsiderkid93 The thing is most horror filmmakers say contradictory shit in interviews, it's just that it only tends to be pointed out when slasher film fans particularly hate a filmmaker`s films. John Carpenter flip-flops every 2 fucking months but he`s the franchise creator so we can`t criticize any of his shit or unoriginality!Also,Rob Zombie makes actual films,not sugarcoated corporate popcorn products like most Hollywood "movies" are nowadays!Also,John Carpenter changed his mind on remakes long before Zombie did but it was fucking crickets when Carpenter did that shit but when Zombie did it "Oh,what an outrage,what a sellout!I thought you were one of us,man!"People change their minds in this world all the fucking time!Deal with it!
i loved this film, i loved how dark, trippy and gritty it was, literally my favorite halloween film it's just so much fun
I'm one of the few who loves Rob Zombies H2, also! 🔪🎃🖤 This is the BEST review of the film, I've literally ever seen on here. 👏👏
Thank you!! I had so much fun with this one because I was out of town in Covington and got to visit all the sites. I remember heading out to the Bracket house. It's out in the middle of nowhere...and I almost ran out of daylight. I filmed my review in the hotel room haha.
I’m one of the few who love this movie.people never really gave it a chance
I actually prefer rob zombies H2 over the first reimagining.
Me too!
The second felt a little more authentic to rob zombie and what I would expect from one of his films. The first felt like a forced replica by the studios with a little added backstory to call it different lol
I actually liked the hospital fake out when I saw it in theatres. That’s what was shown and promoted the most and to get an entirely different (and I mean different in every definition of the word) I was also a bit relieved it wasn’t just a Halloween II cop out remake.
It was ushering out the playing it safe, paying respects to the original to makin it his own.
Agreed. One thing that always bugs me is how everyone says this is a remake of 2, which it's not at all.
I loved this film. And how psychological it was,the first was physical. This was psychological. And you literally see Laurie slowly break apart piece by piece,from what happened and what she finds out. To the point Michael shows up,and she hits her breaking point.
Thank you!! If you look at it in a different light you can see how great it really is. Love that it was filmed in 16mm too.
Fantastic review and I hope people go back watch the movie after watching this review! I personally have always loved this movie, and I also prefer the theatrical version of the director's cut. There are definitley elements of the director's cut I love,but overall the theatrical cut is the best. Very underrated film and in the future I see this movie becoming a cult classic. I've noticed people appreciating this movie over time though.
Annie's death is my favorite scene too. Very emotional and I remember get a bit teary in theaters when she died because we've followed Danielle Harris in the series from a child to an adult. She is very likable!
Yeah I'm so glad Danielle Harris was in these movies. She was excellent.
Rhine1988 I thought it was lame that they tried to make it an emotional scene.
Brad Dourif's acting especially when he finds her body.. smh. he sold it, you feel that pain a s a parent.
100% agree with u on the Annie death scene. It is brilliant! I love the music that plays behind the scene when Sheriff Bracket brakes down and Laurie is running for her life. The way Rob shows how broken Annie's father is at that moment is powerful. The acting pulled the scene right off the page and into our hearts. For a moment you cry along with sheriff Bracket. Laurie holding her dieing friend and running for her life are such an emotional scenes as well. Your heart races along with Laurie from the moment they pull up and enter the house. I'm so happy you brought this scene up. I don't understand why so many fans hate on this film. For one, it's different and I appreciate that. Two, it's pretty damn good if you actually drop any prejudice toward Zombie making a Halloween sequel. I hope people watch this movie again, cuz there truly is more there. Watch it with a fresh outlook. I give this film a solid B++
Cinsational Cinema Thank you!! People seem to constantly overlook the emotional impact of this film.
I respect you for defending this film and you do deliver some good points but no matter how many times I put myself through the horror of watching this film I end up hating it every time! I do agree this film does have some powerful scenes like when poor Anne dies and Laurie is holding her and both Daniel Harris, Scott Taylor Compton and Brad Dourif deliver excellent performances in this scene but the scene itself is a disaster along with the rest of the movie! The idea of seeing Laurie after surviving the events of the first film was a great idea and it had major potential but it doesn't work and frankly H20 did it better of doing what this film tried to do but failed at doing! The movie is a mess from beginning to end though I admit the first 15 minutes were pretty good and there are a few instances goring the movie where things actually showed potential but than it just went right back to disaster! The dialog in the film is terrible and Laurie is screaming and whining so much of the film it's so hard to even root for her character and frankly I ended up caring more about Anne and Sheriff Bracket and don't even get me started on Doctor Loomis, that was not Doctor Loomis in any shape or form! The bottom line this film is a disaster and it's a real shame frankly the 3rd act I felt should have focused on Laurie and Anne battling Michael and Dr. Loomis and Sheriff Brackett showing up at the end to help and the farm house setting was the perfect setup for this but instead Rob Zombie killed off poor Anne despite knowing how much Danielle Harris means to the Halloween fan base and frankly gave her such a meaningless death it's just an insult! When I have the time I am going to rewrite this films script and fix it so it could be the great film it could have been but for know I have no choice but to give this train wreck a 0 out of 10!
Yeah I know you and many do not like this film at all and I completely
respect that. Thanks for taking the time to hear me out. Really
appreciate it.
can you explain hOW it was a disaster?
There basically are no charavcters..in this movie..the characters are not well made in any way..the performances are good, but the characters them selfes are not good. Quick editing and gore for gore sake.... you cant root for anyone in this movie.. the movie just looks..bad to..the cinematography is ugly. The acting besides laurie nd bracket is not good.. but in those cases where acting is good..it doesnt matter much because the characters they are doing these good performances with are not good.. and what makes it a disaaster are the horse scnes..and other schenes that are trown into it..that just dont make sense at all.. i get what he wanted to say..but he could have done it in a much better way.
ummm... in my opinion, its quite the opposite when it comes to character development.
Rob Zombie put a lot of detail and attention into character development than John Carpenter ever did (he says himself, his concern was a simple story and to scare the audience, character development wasn't his strong suit which is why he hates to write scripts)..
In comparison, you get a wealth of complexity from Rob's characters.
From Michael himself, to Sheriff Brackett, we get to see multi-dimensional characters and makes for a more compelling story and intensity.
Both versions push the boundaries for their own respective times, which is why i think they are both brilliant.
What made the original in 1978 so groundbreaking, wouldn't be today and I'm sure even Blumhouse knows this and we shouldn't expect the new movie to be made in that way either, that would be just selling nostalgia.
Far as the characters though, we get to she how Brackett lives with the situation and get to see him as a person, not just a cop on the scene to pay Loomis' wing-man.
Speaking of Loomis, it was a great different look for him.
A true psychiatrist in the real world would believe Michael dead and try to get on with his life (rational guy instead of occult doctor) We actually get to see his insight in what drives him in general, what it must have been like to treat him for so long, etc.
Him being the polar opposite to the original Loomis was another area where Zombie did great.
You get to see loomis in Turmoil, his trying to use fame to cope, denial that Michael is back.. I feel the times Rob fails, is when he re-uses certain dialogue and key moments from the originals,especially concerning Loomis and laurie.
In the end i agree with Rob, if the idea was just to remake a perfect original, its pointless to make, but to make your own version of it, thats worth doing..Part 2 was even better, i also think some people subconsciously feel that giving credit to the remakes, somehow diminish the impact of the original...
Give it 15, 20 years, it will be in the same boat as Halloween 3 now.. a great, misunderstood entry in the horror genre.
btw, i loved the scenes with the horse and ghost mom, Michael IS insane after all, if we are looking through his eyes at these moments, we should expect it took distorted. #BrilliantTouch
This is one of my favorite movies, I'm so glad I'm not alone in that. I love the visuals, the characters, the cinematography etc. The soundtrack is my favorite out of all Tyler Bates soundtracks, which is my favorite composer. There's so many specific shots in here that I love and take inspiration from. It's just overall a great film. I like it a better than the first remake, and I love that movie too.
I used to hate these movies but after I rewatched them last month I’ve fallen in love. This movie is absolutely genius and is in my top 5.
Yep. So many are coming around to this one.
As a huge fan of the Halloween franchise and Rob Zombie, I was excited about this movie. I knew people were bashing it because it was so different than any other Halloween movie and changed Michael. For me, it's like the perfect mix of traditional Halloween and the grit and nastiness of RZ films like The Devil's Rejects. I really love this movie, and I'm proud that Michael was brought back to the screen. I'll always support the horror community.
Hell yeah. I'm noticing a lot of love for this movie as the years pass. Thanks for watching Rysie!
That happens with a lot of movies. Its hated on its original release but in retrospect is better understood and liked.
Agreed. This one connected with me immediately, but I've had it happen on occasion with other films...Interstellar is a good example.
Awesome re-review, Drumdums. This film is so underrated it's not even funny.
Fun fact, friday the 13th part 6 was shot in Covington, GA.
NightManDark yes one scene was the sheriffs office
Yep. I went there and i drove to the camp about 30 minutes from there.
one correction bro, Angel Myers was Laurie's real name in this one, not her mom's. the Strodes name her Laurie...Mom name was Deborah
Haha I know. I realized that directly after I recorded it. I cringe every time I hear myself say it haha.
cool, i was like come on man, stay through. don't start slipping now lol
@@DrumdumsMovieReviews it's fine a lot of youtubers make mistakes.
I like how we don't actually see Annie getting brutally stabbed to death. We can only hear her scream in terror off screen. I don't think I could bear seeing it. Very effective move. Great review Lee!
Agreed. I think it made the scene that much more terrifying.
You know what. The Rob Zombie films and Halloween 4 and 5 are my favorite ones. The only thing I didn’t like about Halloween 2 from Rob Zombie is the mom on the horse. But I have only seen it twice, theatrical and director cuts. What I like about Halloween 2 from Rob Zombie is it’s basically Halloween 2 in a dream sequence and then it’s a mix and modernized Halloween 4 and 5 but with Laurie instead of Jamie.
I actually like the Director’s Cut more, the ending is amazing
Please expand so I understand
It’s your opinion
Awesome video, really cool adding film locations. Great job yet again 🤘👍
So much respect man, Halloween 2 is my favorite horror film of all time. It’s the only Rob Zombie movie i’ve gotten to see in theatres, and the first Myers theatrical experience i had. Its so gritty, and dreary and violent. That is what horror is, at least to me. Its supposed to leave you disturbed and upset, wish there was more merch around still for this gem
I wasn't around yet when you posted this, and never really knew you feel pretty much the same way about this movie as I do. Awesome.
Yeah I love this movie so much.
Thank Gawd for intelligible and brilliant UA-cam reviewers such as yourself, Drumdums. Saw H2 (2009) 4 times in the theaters upon release (!!) -- and it still improves and impresses with each viewing. The film is an emotional powerhouse and is superbly designed and executed, both in art direction and performances. That visual graphic of the "ripped off", exposed, rotted Michael mask **shivers**, what a courageous and haunting image ...
This review is excellent. I've argued these points along time. When I came out of this movie first time I watched it I felt dirty I was like what the hell have I just seen. Then I went again and everytime I saw it I was amazed just how good it actually was. A very disturbing brutal Halloween film
Yeah I think you have to separate the normal Halloween films from this one to fully appreciate it. Thanks for watching!
Drumdums I've realised you can't argue the original core Halloween fans. Don't get me wrong the first is a classic but after that the sequels were pretty bad and got worse apart from h20. I was glad they chose rob zombie for these 2 halloweens because I knew he'd make Michael scary and brutal again and let's
Be honest he's the most brutal he's ever been. Halloween 2 wasn't perfect and I some things could have been different in it but like you say he had the balls to do his own thing
Agreed and I applaud him for bringing his own vision to the franchise.
i think if Rob zombie did them but they were billed as remakes of "John Carpenter's" Halloween, the original core would have a point. I think its just misunderstanding on their parts so their expectations were set up to fail.. RZ definitely made Michael scary again. Very
I personally loved that Michael spoke. There's a deleted scene from the 2007 film where young Michael kept telling Loomis he needed to get out of Smith's Grove and Loomis said that would never happen. So Michael's response was "Then I have nothing else to say" or something like that. That was the moment he decided to be silent. So for Loomis to be the person that Michael chose to go mute and Loomis being the one that Michael finally breaks his silence after all those years is brilliant.
That's the only thing I don't like about Zombie's films. I like that Michael is a blank slate in the original series.
+Drumdums I can respect that. Out of the original franchise, I only liked 1, 2, and 4. H20 was ok because i love Jamie Lee Curtis so much, but the movie itself fell flat. Only thing I enjoyed was the last act of her and Michael going at it. So to each his own. I like that RZ showed how Michael was a psychopath from the get go. They always teach it starts will killing animals. And I also like he did more than just kill Judith. He was a savage.
Awesome Re-Review! I love this film also, and would probably watch this movie over the original H2.
Thank you!
It's not even close to being as good as the original H2. Just my opinion though.
Rob zombie halloween 2 is one of my favorite Halloween movies
I really liked both RZ's Halloween movies. I loved halloween 2 more... just a treat visually and the emotions are far superior to other horror movies.
Both RZ movies are different and brought something new ..far better than halloween 4-8 .. great review mate.
I find myself throwing them in quite often, even the first one. There are some really fun moments in his first one actually.
Drumdums yes im a big fan of the original and part 2.... then i accept part3 as a stand alone... then i dont acknowledge the other sequels... they ruined it for me... but when the renake came out i was thrilled to have something different.. and then H2 i loved...great to see a genuine review of this movie... well done mate..
H2 is underrated IMO, it's very much a you either really love it or really hate it movie. There's alot of good ideas here and I appreciate Rob Zombie wanting to take a more psychological approach to the character. Really make it his own vision and not just a rehash of previous iterations! Great review!
Yep. It makes no apologies, and I love that about it.
This was one of your best reviews/revisits! Maybe because I'm a Halloween fan.. Damn, this movie was scary. Don't make me watch it again :)
Take out the White horse nonsense that was shoehorned in to get his wife back and this film is solid. BTW I wore that exact shirt in my last few reviews! Haha
Haha this is one of my favorite shirts. I don't get the white horse either. But this is one of the most daring and artistic movies in the franchise. Love it.
@Drumdrums The white horse was explained at the very beginning of The Film!"White Horse-Symbolizing purity,instinct and the release of powerful emotional forces,especially rage,often resulting in ensuing chaos and destruction."-Excerpt from "The Subconscious Psychosis of Dreams. Also,in The Book of Revelation in The Bible Death is said to ride a white horse and in both Halloween franchises Loomis compares Michael to both Death and The Devil constantly!
I wouldn't say underrated, people have reasons to hate it, but i personally love it!
I know this video 2 years ago. I agree with you. Rob zombie's halloween 2 was defrint and there's alot of things i like about rob zombie's halloween 2. Great video man.
And I love that it was shot in 16 mm.
okay know I'm 7 years late on this but a minute in u played a banger of a song starting with a dope convo ur aseptic on the movie was great couldn't agree more awesome review
Thank you Matt!
I know this is old but this os one of my favorite video's man.. I love halloween 2 and this was one of the first video's that introduced and the covenant brought me to you.! I love watching relatable movies especially fun horror. I love the shinning and the original texas chainsaw plus rameros day of the dead. Did you ever see that as a kid growing up.?? That would be an awesome video to try next.!!
matthew borne actually I've only seen a couple of Romero's dead movies. Dawn and Day. Thanks so much man.
I really loved this film. I thought that the points you made were exactly why I loved it. It showed Lori’s fragile state so well and I truly appreciated that aspect of it so much. It was so refreshing.
I also find this one under appreciated. Even though I wouldn't go as far as to say that I overall loved the movie, I certainly favor it over Zombie's first remake since it was so different. The trauma aspect of the movie really carried the film gracefully. It's not perfect to me, but it defintely doesn't deserve the hate it typically receives.
Yes this one feels more cohesive than his first outing.
Just watched both of them last night, been awhile since I have. Free of any expectations and just chilling, I really enjoy them.
Glad im not the only one that Loves this film
This is still my second favorite Halloween movie. Halloween 4 is still my favorite
Great video.... I agree with you on everything you said. I've always loved this movie. I prefer the theatrical cut too but Annie's death in the directors cut with the montauge scenes....
Keep up the great work.
Oh yeah Annie's death is done so well. Those scenes were heartbreaking. Thanks for watching man!
really well done review with the locations being an awesome bonus. I love it that he did try with the sequel to do something different even if the attempts don't always hit the mark. I have an odd affection for H2 despite that there are absolutely no redeeming characters aside from Annie and the Sheriff. Was happy that "31" has him in full Devil's Reject's mode again.
I definitely want to give 31 another try. It didn't really grab me the first time, but it has stayed with me since which is a good sign. Thanks for watching!
I have a really complex case of PTSD where 2 seperate incidents cause it...my point is I agree with you 100% on the fact that Zombie really captured the pain and the sad reality of what living with PTSD is like. With how little knowledge and insight is put out there for the masses regarding PTSD....I can really appreciate it because we as a whole need more knowledge and understanding on PTSD and mental health issues in general.
Sorry for your struggles man.
Yay!! :D Lee, this was such a fantastic revisited review for this highly underrated & really misunderstood psychological horror/drama masterpiece. Really cool seeing you at the locations you saw & looking handsome as usual. :) As you know, I just love this film very much & it still is my favorite horror film. Amazing video, buddy. Hugs. ♡♡
It was so surreal being at these locations. I want to live in Covington now so I can go there everyday haha.
I loved this one. Also been a fan since 82 when I saw the first two for the first time. This film has everything a good horror movie has. Weird imagery, and a streak of viciousness.
I absolutely love Rob Zombies H2. The hate it gets angers me lol. It was by far the most terrifying since the original Halloween. Michael was more brutal then every other Halloween film combined in my opinion.Michael in H2 is the one that i would be afraid of the most. Rob Zombies H2 was a slasher combined with psychological horror. It's just so much deeper and unsettling than any other film in the franchise. And how people say the characters are underdeveloped is BEYOND me. The characters are literally two different people from Rob Zombies H1 to H2. Both physically, emotionally and mentally. This is what happens to people who have suffered traumatic events.
Thank you for getting it! i known this from the first time i saw H2
It's a classic! Thanks for watching.
Awesome Review, I shall give this film another shot and I hope I appreciate and adore it the way you do if not then at least I tried 😊
Haha thanks man!
No Problem :)
I rewatched H2 and H1, and im gonna say
I think H2 is better. There could've been so much potential for H1. If I were to have a say on it, I would have done it much differently. I would probably have the movie start with Loomis talking to kid Micheal in the Sanitarium, with this terrible murder spree hinted in the background, then spiral down as Michael starts to not talk and becomes emotionless. Then the nurse would look at the picture of Michael and Angel saying the typical, "Cute baby, couldnt be related to you..." and have Michael look up, not in rage, like the original, but emotionless. It would cut to a small flashback to Michael killing everyone in the house and killing Judith. The difference would be, and I know this would be a BIG difference and change the course of the movie completley, Michael would go to kill little Angel as well. His mom rushes through the door cuz she heard the cries of Judith and thinks it was Ronnie abusing everyone and super drunk, only to find Michael staring at the baby, emotionless and with blood all over his clothes, walking slowly toward her. Blah blah Michael's mom stops him, police are called, etc. After Michael escapes as an adult, a lot would change. The kills would be completley different. Bob would not be stabbed through the wall, and Lynda would not be simply choked. I liked the impact that the attack had on Annie into the second, so I would keep that. Also, less shakey cams. All in all, Michael would be looking to immediatley kill Laurie. Not sympathize with her and say, 'heyyo im yo brotha'. It would be like the original and he would just try to kill her. Why? Why? Because its more mysterious. In the actual H1 you basically just have to be nice to the guy and he wont kill you. The baby wasn't corrupted so he didnt kill her, and the mom cared about Michael so he didnt kill her. Okay, sure. Not in my movie. It would be a lot more mysterious.
Back to H2. H2 felt a bit better with the story. I respect that it was different from the original H2. And yeah, Im glad they added the Hospital dream sequence just to give everyone a taste of what Zombie's version would play out in the hospital. Another thing I am glad they didn't make the hospital thing real. Cmon, it would take Michael FOREVER to walk all the way to the Hospital. And I think they realized that. Also, the whole "Hobo Myers" thing actually makes so much sense. Yes, he technically still does have the jumpsuit on under the other clothes, but people have to take into account that it was turning toward Winter cuz, yknow, Halloween is in fall, and the movie takes place one/two years after. Michael would be wandering around, scrounging for food and staying warm. Sure Mikey is a tough guy, but cold is cold, and if you're cold enough, your body is gonna start shutting down. Also, it makes sense that the mask is getting more and more rotted. I only wish the girl didn't rip that chunk off of his mask exposing his face. And Michael only putting on the mask for kills was a great move. I also give a huge hand for the whole Annie death. It really WAS emotional, and I felt terrible that she died, and even more terrible that Laurie never got the chance to fix their friendship. And you can see that when Laurie is crying with Annie on the bathroom floor. She will never be able to forgive herself for how she treated Annie. Even at the end when Laurie is in the white room and smiles, its like...Laurie just was completley broken. From what she had to see and endure. The people she loved die and always being in costant fear, stress, and anxiety. It makes sense. She broke. Her mind is not whole anymore. And with Loomis, of course he's gonna try and profit from all the events of the first movie. Actually, he was trying to make something out of Michael before Michael even escaped in the first place. I also love the performance of Mr. Brackett seeing his daughter. It was terrible enough already from the first movie, but to know that he failed, no matter how hard he tried that night, to keep Annie out of danger. It made me tear up seeing him cry over the memories he had with his daughter.
In fact, the Sheriff is probably my favorite character. He tried so hard to support Laurie from what she had been through, and he was just the nicest guy. And it shows when he finds out Loomis exposes Laurie in his book. The anger from trying to keep Laurie away from this and Loomis just exposes this all out to everyone.
This movie is actually not as bad as people are all saying it to be. My gripe is just a bit of the dialogue and the nudity. It seems a bit pointless at parts. Also, with the whole Michael talking, maybe it would've been better if he said something different, like "Boo" when he gets shot by the snipers at the end and falls against the shed equipment. All in all, It's pretty good, anmd I even like the soundtrack. Its gritty and dark, like you know something absolutley terrible and sinister was coming. Anyway, sorry for the long essay, but I agree with you Drumdums.
(P.s. Michael probably smelled SO BAD, like, bad enough where the cop at Annie's house should've smelled him from getting a smoke haha)
in 1991 or 92' Friday the 13th in Dallas TX 3 friends and I were at a Danzig concert which was all ages which allowed us to get in with tickets, and White Zombie opened up for Danzig I was the youngest out of my friends we were all on LSD , so my friend's were in 7th grade and I was in 6th grade so we are frying sack so hard that the small venue was packed and I could not hear the music properly and non the less it was a great concert , since I was younger my friend's had me go to the bar and get free water since it was so expensive like 5 bucks so I used the I'm young and dehydrated card,Rob threw out a bunch of CDs to the crowd which I was able to get one,very awesome experience it was my first concert,thanks for the review,peace ,also at the concert I remember Rob's guitar player was playing the Twilight Zone's intro song that everyone knows while Rob was interacting with the audience stating that the date was Friday the 13th, I remember looking behind me and these hot ass chicks were getting into the song with their boobs hanging out if I recall correctly,it might have been because I was frying so hard,also I think the Rob Zombie Halloween movies bite extremely bad,bad casting and writing for Myers great casting for Danielle Harris and her blond sister from 4 the character Rachel , I believe it was this one where she had a cameo as a cop I believe,not shur may have been Rob's Halloween 1
Loved your story man. I saw him in concert a few years ago. Fantastic experience.
Wow I'm gonna have to watch this movie again from your point of view.
glad to see this movie is getting the love it deserves and it's finding a audience and a cult following I love this movie
The dream sequence at the beginning I thought was awesome. It showed just his relentless rage. One of the things I thought was interesting if not the most interesting aspect was it seemed like Michael was kinda back in that adolescence innocent state majority of the time he's just wandering. But as soon as that mask went on that darkness awakens and he just eliminates anything and everything in his way. And another thing that I think people get shitty about this movie is in regards to the psychological game and link between Michael, laurie, and their mom and how they're seeing/dreaming this stuff. But in the original H2 they kinda touched on that when laurie was dreaming/hallucinating and seeing her brother and having flashbacks of her mom. But people seem to forget about that aspect of the original H2.
Agreed. I found Myers so interesting in this one actually. I love how bold this film was.
To be fair though, if it had been Danielle Harris that was in H6 and died, I'm sure it would have been much more impactful. But I get what you mean about the scene in RZH2.... Dourif did a great job as did Danielle.
Agreed. That is a good point. It always pains me to know just how close she was to being in H6. I can't believe they wouldn't pay her that $5K. Thanks for watching btw!
Robs creative mind is insane! There is always a reason for why he does what he does even if we don't know it lol thanks for sharing! These movies are the best!
Agreed. There is definitely only one Rob Zombie, and he has an interesting view on horror.
you got to see the sheriff's house- how awesome! great movie!!
Stephanie...it was one of the coolest experiences ever!!
Rob zombies Halloween 2 is not
Only my favorite Rob zombie movie but one of my favorite Halloween movies too. If you can separate it from the original Halloween movies and look at it in its own “universe” if you will. I really love the Rob zombie versions, especially H2. Love your reviews BTW. Keep up the great work!
This gave me a better understanding of H2
When I saw it in the theater I didn't like it and honestly haven't seen it since. I think I'll need to rewatch it.
Watched 2 of your reviews on this... gonna go back and rewatch... actually excited to do it. Happy October everyone!!
Thank you for this! I've always loved this film, I agree with everything you said! It's just that eerie gritty atmosphere he creates, I love the dream sequences and visions... Im saving watching again until October!!
I'll definitely be watching it again this October as well.
The beginning scene of the hospital was intense. Straight brutal
I know a lot of people hated this movie and I didn't like about 75% of it. I think this is one movie that would have benefited from being a straight remake. Those hospital scenes he did - harrowing and visceral are the words that come to mind. Had the movie just taken place in the hospital and been basically a remake of part 2. I think we might have had a classic on our hands. I still don't like part 2. But I love this video, thanks DD.
I actually like this movie! Great review :) I think this movie is underrated, you connect with these characters. And that scene with Brad Dourif, it kills me!
Agreed. That scene is so brutal!
Just watched H2 for the first time in awhile. As a stand alone it would of been a good slasher movie. As a Halloween movie it just didn't work it was missed a opportunity there's some really awesome kills and some great acting. Michael was reduced to a Jason rip off with the whole mom white horse thing. The score wasn't effective for a Halloween movie neither was Michael without his mask. A little of the classic theme in some scenes. And the classic stalk theme would of made the hospital scene so much better
Yeah I don't see this as a "Halloween" movie when I watch it. It works so well as a standalone though.
@Ran Hunt The hallucinations of his mother were not a reference to Friday The 13th,they were a reference to the original inspiration for both Halloween and Friday The 13th:Psycho!The white horse`s meaning was explained at the beginning of The Film and it`s also associated with Death in The Bible.Which horseman of The Apocalypse is Michael often compared to by Loomis,again?
This was the first Halloween movie I saw in theaters
That CCL 1980 Tee is hard as nails!
Thanks to you I gave this film another chance and went in open minded. Needless to say I now have a totally new perspective on this movie it’s actually really good!
So true i got it too but some people just hate its my 2nd favorite one in the series also some people thought this ruined the series but rember love hurts lol love this movie
Agreed man. Really enjoy this one.
Angel Myers is Lauries real name in robs h2 version Laurie is her adopted name, Deborah is her real mother
Haha I know. I've been corrected about 100 times already. :p
Went back and rewatched this for the first time all the way through since it came out last night and as I posted in KF this morning, my opinion changed a lot on this movie. I still have many issues with it that I had the first time around but the emotions of this movie that it takes you through is undeniably incredible and the atmosphere is amazing. If RZ would have made these 2 movies standalone films about a new serial killer there is no doubt it would get so much more love and be thought of as one of the best 2 movies of this generation but the fact it’s a Michael Myers movie makes it extremely hard to get past and just enjoy it for what it is
Awesome Jordan! Glad you are coming around to it.
Just want to correct a minor mistake you made in this video, rob's wife isn't angel myers, she's Deborah Myers. Angel Myers is laurie's real name.
I didn't care for H2 when I first saw it. I picked up the DVD for cheap and revisited it because of your review. I am now a fan! Great atmosphere! And this movie is brutal!
It's really garnering quite the cult fan base.
At first I hated this movie. It has grown on me to a degree. My main problem is the way loomis was portrayed in this sequel. The first 15-20 mins of this movie are what I was so hoping for.
Loomis is definitely the biggest issue for me too.
Happy to know I'm not alone. Avoided H2 for many years because of the bad reviews (I enjoyed H1, but wasn't blown away by it). But man! What a treat! (No pun intended) As you said, H2 is a completely different take on the Halloween mythos. Carpenter only wanted to showcase an unstoppable force, whereas Zombie seems to be more interested in exploring how different people deal with trauma (even Michael) and family, with lots of nice aesthetic twists along the way. As someone who enjoys a horror flick every now and then but is not a fan, I find it's a pity how this sequel was sidelined, while the newer but clearly formulaic 2018 sequel has met critical acclaim.
Yep. It really is such a misunderstood movie. I love the balls Rob had in this one.
I’m sure you’re getting tired of my comments Lee. Man, I’m so glad you mentioned Annie’s kill. I wrote a review for this movie when it came out and I really disliked it at first. But the biggest positive I wrote about was Brad Dourif and Danielle Harris’s performances. I wrote that the movie didn’t deserve performances like that because the rest of it was shit.
Years later, I’m more on your side of the fence. I still don’t like how Sheri Zombie is shoehorned in with a different child actor playing young Michael. I think you’re right, with proper editing, mixing the director’s cut and theatrical cut would make this an incredible watch. I’m actually a fan of it as I post this in 2019.
Thanks for always reading my stuff Lee and thanks for getting me through these slow times at work. You’re doing more for morale around here than you realize.
Dan Casteel Brother I will never get tired of your comments. #blessed
Drumdums I work construction here in Cleveland and sometimes it’s in a down period. I also have a special needs little boy so between those two things, your channel is the first stress relief I automatically jump to. Brother, you’ve helped me so much more than I can even tell you. When I feel overwhelmed by autism and think I can’t take any more, you help take my mind off things. Thanks so much Lee.
It was great to watch someone review this movie who really appreciates it. Maybe it's not for everyone but I thought Rob did a great job with it. I found Scout Taylor Compton's portrayal of Laurie very refreshing & honest in this film.
Yeah I think it’s a highly misunderstood film.
So true dude, I had very mixed to disappointed thoughts for a couple years after it came out it wasn't until 2012 where I really really loved this movie.
Awesome! Glad you came around man. It gets better with every watch.
RZ’s H2 is so highly underrated it’s criminal
Hell yeah!
Great re-review! Makes me want to give this movie a second chance. As Halloween 4 is my favorite sequel in the franchise, so I'd would love for you to revisit that movie of possible. Thanks for all you do, love the videos!
Thanks man, and Halloween 4 is so important to me. It's the film that got me into the series. I'll definitely be revisiting that one!
I'm glad I watched this video for like the 4th time this now one of my favorite halloween movies
I love the theatrical ending so much
Me too!
@@DrumdumsMovieReviews main reason why I watch iy
I can't say i loved H2, but there are some scenes i really digged. I took my sister with me to the theatre to see it, and my sister HATES horror movies. She was so turned off by how gruesome the movie was, but when Annie died and Mr. Brackett found her, my sister and I both started tearing up. He did such a great job and so did Scout in that scene.
It's not my favorite, but I'm a fan of the classic Halloween especially 1 2 & 4.
with the exception of Halloween III:Season of The Witch
the problem is that the sequels between 1981-2002 including the remake and it’s sequel is that they got so top heavy with the mythology lore and backstory that it took away from what makes Michael Myers really scary
Somewhat agree - think the problems started with part 5 and the Thorn storyline, but then the franchise regained its former glory with H20. Unfortunately they then sabotaged that return to glory with Resurrection. Wish Resurrection had never been made, and the original franchise just ended there prior to the remake. It was a good ending to Laurie’s story and the Myers character in that continuity.
I detest RZ movies so much. I never really appreciated his visions because they are very specific in his style of filmmaking. However H2 does have a special place in my heart because of all the points you mentioned in this review. Although you love the dream sequence, i still can't give RZ a free pass on that one. LOL. I hated that dream sequence because it was just a WTF moment for me when Laurie woke up and I was just sooooooo mad!!! Best part of the movie was Danielle Harris. I was more interested in her development in the movie and wanted to know what will happen to her. I think she made the movie more so than Scout. And you summed it up beautifully regarding Danielle's character. I really LOVE H2 despite it's flaws and love it more than RZ's Halloween. I think i may pop this one in my Blu Ray and revisit this one. Great review!!
I'm half and half with him. And I'll even admit that he's not a good writer at all. But I do enjoy House, Rejects and this one immensely.
People say Laurie is an annoying bitch in this one. But I loved her and felt awful for her. Her life, almost everyone she loved was destroyed in one night. She's traumatized to hell and back plus we find out she shares Michael's insanity. And then she finds out that not only was she adopted but the person responsible for all this pain and loss is her older brother who also killed her older sister and drove her birth mother to suicide. Who wouldn't be a total ruin after all she's suffered through? Laurie was the best thing about this movie. Very tragic character. I actually teared up at the end. That heartbreaking cover of "Love Hurts" while we see the tragedy and chaos of everything that's happened. Michael's insanity destroyed his family from the inside out. So I do enjoy this film. It's not the best but it's most definitely not the worst. Great review, Lee. Like always!
I definitely need to watch this again. I watched the directors cut the first time and didn't realize it so this time I am going to watch the theatrical version. I live really close to Covington GA and didn't know it was filmed there. I am going to make a trip soon!! Also I wanted to tell you recently I went camping at Hard labor State Park and at the time I didn't realize that it was where Friday the 13th Part six was filmed! Great review!!!!
I forgot about that. Next time I visit Atlanta I'm hitting that up!
You should! It is awesome!
No Problem Lee love Your Reviews
Thank you!
I personally didn't like this movie but after watching this i look at it a different way and now i might try to watch it! Thanks
Awesome man. Let me know what you think.
Just now watching this in 2020 and it just so happens I live 10 minutes from Covington. Really crazy how all these monsters were just miles away and might just have to check out the locations!
It was so cool visiting those locations. Surreal.
Just saw your twitter post. I'm telling ya - a lottttt of people hate this movie. Not I. No sir. There may be some bad stuff in it - but the cinematography is fucking gorgeous. Michael is brutal. And Brad Douriff gives a GREAT and emotional performance. That scene where he finds Annie makes the movie. I love this movie, always have and always will. Great vid bro
I LOVED this movie!!! I only watched the director's cut though. I would love if you could make a video going more into the detail about the differences from one version to other. Great review as always and even greater seeing more people love this film :D
Great idea! Might have to do that. You should definitely give the theatrical a watch. Much better ending imo.
I’ve always loved this film. Great revisited review! This is one of my favorites in the franchise.
Oh yes I love this one so much.
Drumdums Glad to hear it!
I may have to revisit this. I haven't seen this since it was in theaters and I didn't get it and didn't like it. Your review shed some light on it that may help me to appreciate it more. Thanks'
No problem man. Definitely check out the unrated version. It's 15 minutes longer and really shines in the character dept.
Amazing review, I agreed with everything you said, the scores amazing. I went to see this at the cinema and remember not liking this at all, then I rewatched it and it was so much better, your spot on about the endings. I like rob zombies movies, I think he try's to mix things up.
Agreed. It gets better with every viewing.