The older AF-S has 3 big advantages: 1. It is parfocal meaning that if you need to zoom in and out to capture the action (sports, airshows, birds in flight) it doesn't have to refocus when you zoom in or out. 2. Almost no focus breathing. It is a true 300mm up close. The AF-P DX VR is not and you will lose a lot of zoom for up close subjects in comparison to the older lens.. 3. Compatible with more cameras. The new lens won't work at all on older bodies. The newer lens also seems to have more CA in some situations. But the newer lens focuses faster so long as you don't have to zoom while focusing. There are actually 2 versions of the AF-P DX lens - one without image stabilization. Make sure if you get the AF-P it is the AF-P VR. In 2018 you'd be crazy to try to skimp and get a non-stabilized lens.
Yeah, it seems like Nikon is really pushing the non-VR version of the AF-P with their DX cameras. I can’t imagine wanting a long zoom without VR, and I think many new customers will find themselves frustrated and then realize they need to drop another $500-600 for the VR.
I can confirm that the AF-S version seems to be parfocal. I don't recall the focus breathing performance. However, the AF-P (FF) version has almost instant, almost silent AF, which I think is more important for video. The AF-S version, not so much.
Hi, the problem is that there are 2 AFS lenses, no ? I believe there is an old 70-300 f/4.5- 5.6 VR and another more recent one which is 4.5 to 6.3 but I believe don't have VR. Would you know which one is the better of the 2 for image quality (sharpness/contrast) ? Thank you for any insight...
I've owned and used both of these lenses, on my old Nikon D300, and extensively, on my Nikon D7200 and D7500 DX DSLR bodies. The newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens just simply stomps the older AF-S G VR FX zoom lens. The newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens is lighter in weight, focuses faster, has better VR, and is much sharper than the older AF-S G VR FX zoom lens, especially from 200mm to 300mm. That's all that needs to be said. If you have a compatible DX and/or FX DSLR body, buy the newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens. You'll be very glad that you did. Good things! 👍
I have the the Af-s 70-300mm vr-ed FX lens mounted on my Nikon D90, I love the ability that shooting on a DX camera boosts the range to 450mm, I've taken shots that are totally amazing, Not being a professional, but some shots look so well focused and clear and colourful my friends always ask for blowups for their living rooms....lol Great Lens, so glad i picked it over a cheaper lens.
450mm yeah but still DX so half iso performance. Means that if you use the lens under 200mm the fx version will blow up the dx and also remember that the fx version has way more bokeh
I own the DX model of the AF-P 70-300 VR and it's a fantastic lens for the price. The autofocus is not only quiet but it's fast! Images are sharp and contrasty. I've taken some of my best pics with this lens. If the reader has a DX camera, I'd totally recommend it.
hi, I have both camera's. I will sell my AF-s model. The af-p is faster, but more important the af-p is espacially from 200-300 mm. much sharper. It is really one of the best Nikkor lenses i have used. It is at least as sharp as the 70-200 2,8 VR. It works really well on the z50 with the Ftz (II) adapter. The af on both the af-s and af-p is very accurate, i never miss a shot, de af-p is just faster.
i got to spend sometime with the 70-300 af-p dx lens with my d5200. things i didnt like plastic mount, f6.3 at 300mm. things i liked the autofocus was definitely lot quieter, im not sure if it was quicker as i dont have another long zoom lens to compare with. what took me by surprise was the vr i was able to get usable image at 1/10th of a second. another thing that surprised me was video as Matt said its not going to be as good as a dual pixel af system. however the P lens makes it possible to shoot in af mode for video even though my camera doesn't take full advantage of the P lens. in my opinion its worth going for the P lens its that much better than the Af-S lens for video. the absence of vr on-off switch might be a deal breaker for some
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Rest in peace Matt. You always showed examples of your work in the background and never talked about them. For what's it's worth, the picture behind you in this video is awesome; it looks like an Escher.
I just upgraded from the old AF-S version to the new FX AF-P version. The old version was very sharp up to 200mm, but could be frustratingly soft beyond that. The AF was actually pretty fast, but nothing beats AF-P for speed (and also silence). The AF-P also had that electronic aperture. This makes the FX AF-P much better for any action (AF is better) but also for video (AF much faster, AF and aperture silent). Also, the ergonomics: while both lenses are plastic consumer lenses, the old AF-S felt cheaper, and the zoom ring felt terrible (all kinds of uneven stiction). The AF-P's zoom ring feels great, and the MF ring feels even better (thanks partially to that electronic pulse stepper AF). Finally Nikon brought their lenses into the 21st century! Despite having a D7500, I didn't bother with the DX versions of the lens. They felt cheap, the mount was plastic, there are no switches for VR or AF, and the MF ring is on the wrong end of the lens. I don't know if the sharpness differences would have been visible, but the MTF charts made the FX look excellent for just about anything. US$600 well spent - and a bargain.
@@mikescuba1 Thanks for asking. The AF-P is significantly sharper beyond 200mm and I'd say somewhat sharper and more contrast-y under 200mm. The AF is much faster so that should also help your hit rate. I don't notice any difference in the quality of the VR. Out of focus rendering is maybe slightly worse in the P. Hope that helps! The P is a great buy.
@@gyozakeynsianism hey ! I have the old 70-300 with a D7200, and this AF is not really good, I want to change for the 70-200 f4 for sharper image and better Af, but the 100mm less... did you try the AF-P 70-300 FX for sport photography ? Like snowboard, cars, etc.. thx !
@@PokzyThose two are the ones I was considering (the 70-200 f/4 and the AF-P 70-300). The AF-P 70-300 has the faster AF (the P represents a modern stepper motor for AF), but (as you say) the 70-200 f/4 is sharper, and it's also better built. For fast action with intense AF needs, I'd still take the AF-P due to the faster focus. Also, I don't need the extra brightness at f/4, the AF-P is still very sharp, and the AF-P is half the price of the 70-200 and lighter too. I also use it at 300mm often. But if you don't need 300mm, want a brighter lens and want better build quality, the f/4 might be for you. Happy shooting!
@@gyozakeynsianism Thank you very much for your answer, In both cases I want to take used and not new, I found a 70-200mm f4 around 450€ but I can't find a used 70-300mm... I'm often at 300mm that's what holds me back a bit from the 70-200.. I will continue my research, thank you again for your answer.
I was kind of looking for the answer to the question you brought up. Other than FX compatibility, are there substantial quality differences between the FX and DX versions? I have the slightly older 55-300mm DX AF-S, and it is ok but is a little slow to focus at times and has a reputation for being a little soft above 200mm. Would the 70-300mm FX AF-S give me improvements in those areas? As for the S vs. P question, I am a still photo guy, and prefer a wider compatibility between lenses and bodies, so give me S over P.
I would like to tell you that we can use the middle range lens the Nikkor AF-P 70-300 ED VR 3.5 TO 6.5 F... Can be used on the FX Camera bodies by using the crop sensor option in fx bodies... There will be a FN button you will need to click that and with it u will need to see through the view finder where u will see the sensor getting cropped... The lens works in 1.2x crop sensor which is the secondary sensor setting and the third is the dx crop sensor which is the third crop sensor... Note that if u use this lens on FX body u will need to crop the sensor or u will get the vignetting on photos... 1.2x and dx crop. Also note that i have a nikon D750 so I'm telling my camera settings however probably the D750 posses the same settings of all nikon cameras FX bodies... Video mode is awesome u may not need to crop the sensor in video mode... There will be 0% vignetting... If any more questions please reply on this same comment below...🙏
Hi, Would you know if the AF-P DX version has a better Bokeh rendering than the FX version, which is said to be pretty bad ? Thank you for any insight...
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The pulse stepper AF motor is much faster (and almost silent). I've had both lenses and it's no contest. Also the AF-P is much, much sharper at the long end. The old version is very soft - even with a 16MP camera.
@@bassangler73 True, but I wasn't the only one complaining about softness at the 300mm end. Maybe you got lucky! In any case the new one is super sharp, and one can imagine QA improving in the 10 years between the introduction of the two models (reducing variation).
I ownd 70-300mm af-s also.................you are right, it does lose contrast toward the 300 end of it, I know this for sure because I have the prime 300mm af-s, which is a great lens. My 70-300mm af-s died today, after 3 years of unbelievable heavy use, i am surprised it lasted this long!! but sad to see it go. i may but the af-p vr dx version of it....i think the stepper motors are faster....my cheapo kit lens af-p 18-55mm dx vr, is too fast to see it focus!!! and is ultra sharp.............if the af-p vr 70-300 is anything like it, then it should be good
I used to own the AF-S 70-300mm G VR and it was a lemon!. It's soft from about 220mm to 300 mm and the focus ring is sticky. It felt cheap and nasty. Not one of Nikon's better lenses. I have the newer AF-P lens on order - I expect that to be better but we shall see!
I am torn between the AF-S 70-300 VR and the DX AF-P 70-300. Right now I am on the side of AF-S even tho it is $100 more. Any thoughts on which I should get? Thanks
Hi, the problem is that there are 2 AFS lenses, no ? I believe there is an old 70-300 f/4.5- 5.6 VR and another more recent one which is 4.5 to 6.3 but I believe don't have VR. Would you know which one is the better of the 2 ? Thank you for any insight...
Ok for me the older AF-S VR is much more desirable for stills, with one caveat. + AF-S is f/5.6 @300, not 6.3 like the AF-P. + AF-S has wider camera compatibility. Will work on all DX and FX cameras released in the last decade or more. AF-S has an external physical VR switch on the lens. VERY important: Only the newest cameras released 2017 and later have the ability to toggle VR on and off in the camera menu for the AF-P. On older bodies VR is always on whether you like it or not for the AF-P - Softer between 200-300 if you don't stop down to f/8. Not terrible but it is noticable. - AF-S motor has been known to fail on this model, and the fix is too expensive so it goes in the bin and you buy a new one if this happens out of warranty. This is the caveat. Honestly stepper motor or not, I think Nikon's gone backwards here.
Could you help me, in a choice of a 70-300 lens for use in a D7200, I look for the best optical quality, should I buy AF-S or AF-P I know the need to update the firmware for use of AF-P, but that does not matter, look for the best optical quality for photography, I do not care about video. Thank you
The AF-P has no switch (VR ON/OFF and M-M/A have to be accessed from camera menu system), works only on newer cameras released after 2013 (some D5500, D5300 or D3300 will need the latest firmware installed), the only advantage it has is the silent stepper motor - a great advantage in video. It is not optically superior to the AF-S version. The AF-S version works on most models, but focuses noisily in video mode.
I got a D5300 about a year and a half ago, do you think my camera would need a firmwire update? I've been researching this lens and can't decided what it all means for me! You sound like you know your stuff so maybe you can explain this further?!
I tend to disagree. I loved the AF-S but broke mine and had to go AF-P FX. It does not have the anti aliasing filter which means sharper images. It allows focussing objects about 1 foot closer than the AF-S. I would sped the extra money and get an AF P FX lens rather than the AF-P DX lens, better glass.
@@pietracuore Hi. Great points on the AF-P FX lens! I just don't understand the comment about "no anti-aliasing filter"...I thought those were in camera, rather than in lens.
Hi Matt. Does the AF-P version have sufficient optical properties (sharpness, micro-contrast, etc.) to work well with the Nikon Z7 (+FTZ Adapter)? Thanks!
Is the AF-P only quieter than the AF-S in movie mode or overall? I broke my AF-S 70--300 mm lens (that I loved). I can replace it with an FX (full-frame) AF-P 70-300 E and use it with a D500. I would mainly take bird photos. Will the FX lens work well work on the DX camera.
If you are very close to small birds, they may hear the autofocussing motor of the AF-P 70-300 FX VR. It is quieter but small birds close up were skittish yet a hawk was not. I too broke my AF-S 70-300 mm lens that I also loved. I ended up getting the full frame AF-P. but I also had to get a compatible camera so got a D500. The FX lens works great on the DX D500 camera. I have taken superb small-bird photos. The FX AF-P has decided quality advantages over the DX version. Most bird photographers are not so close to the bird that the almost imperceptible auto focus noise would be a problem. The FX lens has a manual focus ring to override the autofocus. If you haven't already got the FX lens, I'd do it. That's exactly the lens/camera combination I have and I love it.
Hey Matt. My only question and interest is this please.....is the AF-P VR SHARPER than the AFS VR? Thanks. I want sharpness and image quality with VR. Thanks.
Yes, it is sharper but the AF P FX version has better glass than AF P DX. By rights there seems to be two reasons why it's sharper -- 1) no anti-ailasing filter; 2) VR through more f stops. I had the AFS VR for several years and loved it. I now have AF P VR FX and love it too and amazed at the sharpness of it.
@@pietracuore did you notice any difference in Image quality comparing both FX lenses by yourself? (Differences in AF Speed and AF Motor noise are obvious of course). I'm Not talking of the DX Models of course
Hi. Which one is good- nikon d5300 with 18-55 lens or d3400 with Lens AF-P DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR + AF-P DX Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G ED VRs?My main motto is for day to day photography ( Sharp images). Not professional photographer. Please help
It'll work fine! I have this lens and use it on my D7500. It's great - sharp and the AF is super fast. However, you may be perfectly satisfied with the DX AF-P 70-300 VR, which is cheaper.
Depends if you use a tripod stand when using your lens and how much you shake while using it without it. VR helps with shaking and will notice better quality but not by tons. It all depends how much you shake while taking your photos lol
Unless you are using a tripod or maintaining very high shutter speeds, the VR is very important in a lens this long. If you are taking sports photos during the day, it is probably bright enough to maintain shutter speeds over 1/500, which is best for sports anyway. If, for some reason, you needed to use a somewhat slower shutter, get the VR.
It would be nice if you let us see some of your photos. Many times you say, "I've used this lens in the past", but show us some of your photos taken with the lens you are critiquing. I question of you are even a good photographer, the proof is in the pudding.
Nikons autofocus is great and smooth, you just use the wrong settings. Af-f wide, shutter mode. When you actually record, with a af-p lens, its dead quiet
Alfred Ho you may already have the answer by now, but here I go anyway. The AF-S is a focusing system which works with pretty much any Nikon DSLR ever made. The AF-P lens is a new system, and will work only with bodies introduces after 2015. There is at least one exception, in the D7200, which can have the firmware updated to work with AF-P.
For your information. This guy took his own life in November. Some say it was partly to do with negativity of comments and dislikes on his channel. Think again before being mean, You'll never know what effect it can have on people. RIP Matt Ballard
The older AF-S has 3 big advantages:
1. It is parfocal meaning that if you need to zoom in and out to capture the action (sports, airshows, birds in flight) it doesn't have to refocus when you zoom in or out.
2. Almost no focus breathing. It is a true 300mm up close. The AF-P DX VR is not and you will lose a lot of zoom for up close subjects in comparison to the older lens..
3. Compatible with more cameras. The new lens won't work at all on older bodies.
The newer lens also seems to have more CA in some situations. But the newer lens focuses faster so long as you don't have to zoom while focusing.
There are actually 2 versions of the AF-P DX lens - one without image stabilization. Make sure if you get the AF-P it is the AF-P VR. In 2018 you'd be crazy to try to skimp and get a non-stabilized lens.
syousef thank you!
Yeah, it seems like Nikon is really pushing the non-VR version of the AF-P with their DX cameras. I can’t imagine wanting a long zoom without VR, and I think many new customers will find themselves frustrated and then realize they need to drop another $500-600 for the VR.
I can confirm that the AF-S version seems to be parfocal. I don't recall the focus breathing performance. However, the AF-P (FF) version has almost instant, almost silent AF, which I think is more important for video. The AF-S version, not so much.
SOLD! got myself an AF-S for a steal ($100 in mint condition, FX ) instead of a much more expensive AF-P. I love parfocal lenses :)
Hi, the problem is that there are 2 AFS lenses, no ? I believe there is an old 70-300 f/4.5- 5.6 VR and another more recent one which is 4.5 to 6.3 but I believe don't have VR.
Would you know which one is the better of the 2 for image quality (sharpness/contrast) ?
Thank you for any insight...
I've owned and used both of these lenses, on my old Nikon D300, and extensively, on my Nikon D7200 and D7500 DX DSLR bodies.
The newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens just simply stomps the older AF-S G VR FX zoom lens.
The newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens is lighter in weight, focuses faster, has better VR, and is much sharper than the older AF-S G VR FX zoom lens, especially from 200mm to 300mm.
That's all that needs to be said.
If you have a compatible DX and/or FX DSLR body, buy the newer AF-P E VR FX zoom lens.
You'll be very glad that you did.
Good things! 👍
I have the the Af-s 70-300mm vr-ed FX lens mounted on my Nikon D90, I love the ability that shooting on a DX camera boosts the range to 450mm, I've taken shots that are totally amazing, Not being a professional, but some shots look so well focused and clear and colourful my friends always ask for blowups for their living rooms....lol Great Lens, so glad i picked it over a cheaper lens.
450mm yeah but still DX so half iso performance. Means that if you use the lens under 200mm the fx version will blow up the dx and also remember that the fx version has way more bokeh
I own the DX model of the AF-P 70-300 VR and it's a fantastic lens for the price. The autofocus is not only quiet but it's fast! Images are sharp and contrasty. I've taken some of my best pics with this lens. If the reader has a DX camera, I'd totally recommend it.
what type of nikon do you have?
How much is it
your opinion it is what I needed to buy the lens. thank you!
Will I get the crop factor with dx lens ? Or this happen only if I got fx version
@@frenchfries8745 bit late but I also have the same question
hi, I have both camera's. I will sell my AF-s model. The af-p is faster, but more important the af-p is espacially from 200-300 mm. much sharper. It is really one of the best Nikkor lenses i have used. It is at least as sharp as the 70-200 2,8 VR. It works really well on the z50 with the Ftz (II) adapter. The af on both the af-s and af-p is very accurate, i never miss a shot, de af-p is just faster.
i got to spend sometime with the 70-300 af-p dx lens with my d5200. things i didnt like plastic mount, f6.3 at 300mm.
things i liked the autofocus was definitely lot quieter, im not sure if it was quicker as i dont have another long zoom lens to compare with. what took me by surprise was the vr i was able to get usable image at 1/10th of a second.
another thing that surprised me was video as Matt said its not going to be as good as a dual pixel af system. however the P lens makes it possible to shoot in af mode for video even though my camera doesn't take full advantage of the P lens. in my opinion its worth going for the P lens its that much better than the Af-S lens for video.
the absence of vr on-off switch might be a deal breaker for some
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Rest in peace Matt. You always showed examples of your work in the background and never talked about them. For what's it's worth, the picture behind you in this video is awesome; it looks like an Escher.
It's the Gugenheim.
I just upgraded from the old AF-S version to the new FX AF-P version. The old version was very sharp up to 200mm, but could be frustratingly soft beyond that. The AF was actually pretty fast, but nothing beats AF-P for speed (and also silence). The AF-P also had that electronic aperture. This makes the FX AF-P much better for any action (AF is better) but also for video (AF much faster, AF and aperture silent). Also, the ergonomics: while both lenses are plastic consumer lenses, the old AF-S felt cheaper, and the zoom ring felt terrible (all kinds of uneven stiction). The AF-P's zoom ring feels great, and the MF ring feels even better (thanks partially to that electronic pulse stepper AF). Finally Nikon brought their lenses into the 21st century!
Despite having a D7500, I didn't bother with the DX versions of the lens. They felt cheap, the mount was plastic, there are no switches for VR or AF, and the MF ring is on the wrong end of the lens. I don't know if the sharpness differences would have been visible, but the MTF charts made the FX look excellent for just about anything. US$600 well spent - and a bargain.
How do the images compare between the S and the P. Is there any noticeable difference? Many Thanks
@@mikescuba1 Thanks for asking. The AF-P is significantly sharper beyond 200mm and I'd say somewhat sharper and more contrast-y under 200mm. The AF is much faster so that should also help your hit rate. I don't notice any difference in the quality of the VR. Out of focus rendering is maybe slightly worse in the P. Hope that helps! The P is a great buy.
@@gyozakeynsianism hey ! I have the old 70-300 with a D7200, and this AF is not really good, I want to change for the 70-200 f4 for sharper image and better Af, but the 100mm less... did you try the AF-P 70-300 FX for sport photography ? Like snowboard, cars, etc.. thx !
@@PokzyThose two are the ones I was considering (the 70-200 f/4 and the AF-P 70-300). The AF-P 70-300 has the faster AF (the P represents a modern stepper motor for AF), but (as you say) the 70-200 f/4 is sharper, and it's also better built. For fast action with intense AF needs, I'd still take the AF-P due to the faster focus. Also, I don't need the extra brightness at f/4, the AF-P is still very sharp, and the AF-P is half the price of the 70-200 and lighter too. I also use it at 300mm often. But if you don't need 300mm, want a brighter lens and want better build quality, the f/4 might be for you.
Happy shooting!
@@gyozakeynsianism Thank you very much for your answer,
In both cases I want to take used and not new, I found a 70-200mm f4 around 450€ but I can't find a used 70-300mm...
I'm often at 300mm that's what holds me back a bit from the 70-200..
I will continue my research, thank you again for your answer.
I was kind of looking for the answer to the question you brought up. Other than FX compatibility, are there substantial quality differences between the FX and DX versions? I have the slightly older 55-300mm DX AF-S, and it is ok but is a little slow to focus at times and has a reputation for being a little soft above 200mm. Would the 70-300mm FX AF-S give me improvements in those areas? As for the S vs. P question, I am a still photo guy, and prefer a wider compatibility between lenses and bodies, so give me S over P.
Would the FX version work ok on a D5600? I'm struggling to find DX versions.
I would like to tell you that we can use the middle range lens the Nikkor AF-P 70-300 ED VR 3.5 TO 6.5 F... Can be used on the FX Camera bodies by using the crop sensor option in fx bodies... There will be a FN button you will need to click that and with it u will need to see through the view finder where u will see the sensor getting cropped... The lens works in 1.2x crop sensor which is the secondary sensor setting and the third is the dx crop sensor which is the third crop sensor... Note that if u use this lens on FX body u will need to crop the sensor or u will get the vignetting on photos... 1.2x and dx crop. Also note that i have a nikon D750 so I'm telling my camera settings however probably the D750 posses the same settings of all nikon cameras FX bodies... Video mode is awesome u may not need to crop the sensor in video mode... There will be 0% vignetting... If any more questions please reply on this same comment below...🙏
Hi,
Would you know if the AF-P DX version has a better Bokeh rendering than the FX version, which is said to be pretty bad ? Thank you for any insight...
Dear friend.. Thanks for your great video.
▪ Question 🙋🏻♂️. I'm a Birdwatcher.. So because of pandemia and Budget. I bought a NIKON D5,000.. (old one but still works) Do you recommend this or other lens for my Old Nikon 📸..?
Thanks, just purchased G, for 140, 10$ for cover, 15 tax, so $165 out door, so far pleased, was very clean.
Save a little more and get the 70-300 afs ed if vr / its currently $499 and has a true silent wave ring motor
bassangler73 True. Be nice if I could afford the tamaron 15-600 lens. Maybe one day
The pulse stepper AF motor is much faster (and almost silent). I've had both lenses and it's no contest. Also the AF-P is much, much sharper at the long end. The old version is very soft - even with a 16MP camera.
@@gyozakeynsianism mine is sharp at 300mm but there is probably a lot of difference from one copy to another
@@bassangler73 True, but I wasn't the only one complaining about softness at the 300mm end. Maybe you got lucky! In any case the new one is super sharp, and one can imagine QA improving in the 10 years between the introduction of the two models (reducing variation).
I own the AF-S and its contrast goes flat past 200mm. It really is optically dated, loved it on D70, OK on D90, meh on D7200.
I ownd 70-300mm af-s also.................you are right, it does lose contrast toward the 300 end of it, I know this for sure because I have the prime 300mm af-s, which is a great lens. My 70-300mm af-s died today, after 3 years of unbelievable heavy use, i am surprised it lasted this long!! but sad to see it go. i may but the af-p vr dx version of it....i think the stepper motors are faster....my cheapo kit lens af-p 18-55mm dx vr, is too fast to see it focus!!! and is ultra sharp.............if the af-p vr 70-300 is anything like it, then it should be good
Yes! That too!
Hi
Good information. Thanks....
I would like to know which on of these is apt, good and fit for Nikon D3300?
Both will fit. F-mount
I used to own the AF-S 70-300mm G VR and it was a lemon!. It's soft from about 220mm to 300 mm and the focus ring is sticky. It felt cheap and nasty. Not one of Nikon's better lenses. I have the newer AF-P lens on order - I expect that to be better but we shall see!
I am torn between the AF-S 70-300 VR and the DX AF-P 70-300. Right now I am on the side of AF-S even tho it is $100 more. Any thoughts on which I should get? Thanks
Care to share which one you've got..?
The AF-S 3.5_5.6 has a metal mount, the AF-P 3.5_6.3 has a plastic mount!
Is the AF-P 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 sharper than the AF-S 70-300mm f4.5-5.6?
mahal holiday af-p is sharp close to 70-200 f4 in same f stop
The AF-P is way sharper at the long end (past ~200mm the AF-S is quite soft). They're about the same at the short end - surprisingly sharp.
@@narongpontemcharonsub2566 Interesting?
@@narongpontemcharonsub2566 Thanks for the info
@@gyozakeynsianism Thanks for the info. The 70-300 seems to perform just as good as expensive lenses that cost 1,200 and 2,000 dollars.
Hi, the problem is that there are 2 AFS lenses, no ? I believe there is an old 70-300 f/4.5- 5.6 VR and another more recent one which is 4.5 to 6.3 but I believe don't have VR.
Would you know which one is the better of the 2 ?
Thank you for any insight...
What to buy
70-300mm AF-P a non VR version (second hand), or the 70-300mm AF-S Vr (brand new)? I need help, please, i have Nikon D7000.
at 300mm vr anyday
The AF-P 70-300 does not work on a DX7000. This camera is to old. The lens works on my DX3400 .
Ok for me the older AF-S VR is much more desirable for stills, with one caveat.
+ AF-S is f/5.6 @300, not 6.3 like the AF-P.
+ AF-S has wider camera compatibility. Will work on all DX and FX cameras released in the last decade or more.
AF-S has an external physical VR switch on the lens. VERY important: Only the newest cameras released 2017 and later have the ability to toggle VR on and off in the camera menu for the AF-P. On older bodies VR is always on whether you like it or not for the AF-P
- Softer between 200-300 if you don't stop down to f/8. Not terrible but it is noticable.
- AF-S motor has been known to fail on this model, and the fix is too expensive so it goes in the bin and you buy a new one if this happens out of warranty. This is the caveat.
Honestly stepper motor or not, I think Nikon's gone backwards here.
Fx not Dx, dumbass
Could you help me, in a choice of a 70-300 lens for use in a D7200, I look for the best optical quality, should I buy AF-S or AF-P
I know the need to update the firmware for use of AF-P, but that does not matter, look for the best optical quality for photography, I do not care about video.
Thank you
Can we use this afs 70-300 f4.5 - 5.6g old lens with nikon Z5??
How will be the autofocusing performence ?
The AF-P has no switch (VR ON/OFF and M-M/A have to be accessed from camera menu system), works only on newer cameras released after 2013 (some D5500, D5300 or D3300 will need the latest firmware installed), the only advantage it has is the silent stepper motor - a great advantage in video. It is not optically superior to the AF-S version. The AF-S version works on most models, but focuses noisily in video mode.
I got a D5300 about a year and a half ago, do you think my camera would need a firmwire update? I've been researching this lens and can't decided what it all means for me! You sound like you know your stuff so maybe you can explain this further?!
I've read otherwise
I tend to disagree. I loved the AF-S but broke mine and had to go AF-P FX. It does not have the anti aliasing filter which means sharper images. It allows focussing objects about 1 foot closer than the AF-S. I would sped the extra money and get an AF P FX lens rather than the AF-P DX lens, better glass.
@@pietracuore Hi. Great points on the AF-P FX lens! I just don't understand the comment about "no anti-aliasing filter"...I thought those were in camera, rather than in lens.
@@stevetqp9152 - exactly . . .
Hi Matt. Does the AF-P version have sufficient optical properties (sharpness, micro-contrast, etc.) to work well with the Nikon Z7 (+FTZ Adapter)? Thanks!
Unfortunately matt isn't with us anymore man
Is the AF-P only quieter than the AF-S in movie mode or overall? I broke my AF-S 70--300 mm lens (that I loved). I can replace it with an FX (full-frame) AF-P 70-300 E and use it with a D500. I would mainly take bird photos. Will the FX lens work well work on the DX camera.
If you are very close to small birds, they may hear the autofocussing motor of the AF-P 70-300 FX VR. It is quieter but small birds close up were skittish yet a hawk was not. I too broke my AF-S 70-300 mm lens that I also loved. I ended up getting the full frame AF-P. but I also had to get a compatible camera so got a D500. The FX lens works great on the DX D500 camera. I have taken superb small-bird photos. The FX AF-P has decided quality advantages over the DX version. Most bird photographers are not so close to the bird that the almost imperceptible auto focus noise would be a problem. The FX lens has a manual focus ring to override the autofocus. If you haven't already got the FX lens, I'd do it. That's exactly the lens/camera combination I have and I love it.
@@pietracuore Good tip, thank you...
Hey Matt. My only question and interest is this please.....is the AF-P VR SHARPER than the AFS VR? Thanks. I want sharpness and image quality with VR. Thanks.
Yes, it is sharper but the AF P FX version has better glass than AF P DX. By rights there seems to be two reasons why it's sharper -- 1) no anti-ailasing filter; 2) VR through more f stops. I had the AFS VR for several years and loved it. I now have AF P VR FX and love it too and amazed at the sharpness of it.
@@pietracuore did you notice any difference in Image quality comparing both FX lenses by yourself? (Differences in AF Speed and AF Motor noise are obvious of course).
I'm Not talking of the DX Models of course
Af-p doesn't work with my d300. Works great with my d5300.
Had to go af-s with d300.
Terry Christopher that’s the catch with AF-P: it only works with bodies made after about 2015.
Only d3500 can work with afp lens because d3500 come with afp lens kit
Hi. Which one is good- nikon d5300 with 18-55 lens or d3400 with Lens AF-P DX Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR + AF-P DX Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3G ED VRs?My main motto is for day to day photography ( Sharp images). Not professional photographer. Please help
Estaría bueno que subtitularan estos vídeos porque están bueno los temas de debaten. Yo que no entiendo ingles me pierdo de sus vídeos.
RIP Matt
Just looked it up. Damn, I didn't even know it happened. RIP, Matt...
Hi, i have a Nikon D3500 and wanted to get this lens (AF-P 70-300mm t/4.5-5.6E ED VR Lens ) its not DX so would that matter.
It'll work fine! I have this lens and use it on my D7500. It's great - sharp and the AF is super fast. However, you may be perfectly satisfied with the DX AF-P 70-300 VR, which is cheaper.
My D5600 came with the 70-300 non VR....how's this quality of the 70-300 VR compared to it?..is it worth selling my non VR to get it?
Tom Pajak hell yeah
Depends if you use a tripod stand when using your lens and how much you shake while using it without it. VR helps with shaking and will notice better quality but not by tons. It all depends how much you shake while taking your photos lol
Sim, vale a pena trocar, totalmente diferentes a AFS VR para melhor
Tom Pajak u
Unless you are using a tripod or maintaining very high shutter speeds, the VR is very important in a lens this long. If you are taking sports photos during the day, it is probably bright enough to maintain shutter speeds over 1/500, which is best for sports anyway. If, for some reason, you needed to use a somewhat slower shutter, get the VR.
Thanks for the education!
Its working in d3200
Is this af-p lens compatible with niKon d5100?
No. For a D5100 you need AF-S. The AF-P system is pretty new and only works with newer generations of camera bodies.
It would be nice if you let us see some of your photos. Many times you say, "I've used this lens in the past", but show us some of your photos taken with the lens you are critiquing. I question of you are even a good photographer, the proof is in the pudding.
Miss you Matt. RIP
Arto! Im on a budget and I would like to know if the AF S version can be used on low light situations?
They're both awful in low-light on my Nikon D5300. Not fast lenses AT ALL.
Not really. They're both slow lenses. Honestly are awful in low light except if the subject is unmoving and the camera is on a tripod.
Af-p is much faster in focusing and zero noise produce.
whould you recommend Nikon Nikkor AF-S 55-300mm VR over Nikon Nikkor AF-P 70-300mm f4.5-6.3 ED VR lens ?
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Is there much difference in image quality between the S & P. I will be using it on a D750 FX
Get the latest AF-P version. Much better.
In 70 300 AF s vr auto focus is working
You put it out there. You are gonna get comments. That simple.
sir , does Nikon 70-300 mm 4.5-5.6 if ed vr af s compatibe in nikon d3400??
Yes it is.
Nikons autofocus is great and smooth, you just use the wrong settings. Af-f wide, shutter mode. When you actually record, with a af-p lens, its dead quiet
Can i use afs lens in d3300
Yes, you can.
can we use AFP lens to mount on AFS camera?
Alfred Ho you may already have the answer by now, but here I go anyway. The AF-S is a focusing system which works with pretty much any Nikon DSLR ever made. The AF-P lens is a new system, and will work only with bodies introduces after 2015. There is at least one exception,
in the D7200, which can have the firmware updated to work with AF-P.
Hey would you recommend the a7s/a7r ii or the Nikon d850 for both film and photography
a7iii is the best option for film and photography both
in short: if you want to shoot video, select a Canon, if not, choose the cheapest.
This seriously sucks!!
Boring video, just a talking heah! Bah!!
Talking head! Bah!! So boring
For your information. This guy took his own life in November. Some say it was partly to do with negativity of comments and dislikes on his channel. Think again before being mean, You'll never know what effect it can have on people.
RIP Matt Ballard
Boring video, just a talking heah! Bah!!