If not Suella Braverman, who can lead the Tories to an election win? | LBC analysis
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Suella Braverman’s hopes for Tory leadership have encountered an early setback as a key supporter is reportedly preparing to back Robert Jenrick instead.
Although no one has formally launched a campaign to replace Rishi Sunak following the disastrous 4 July election result, Ms Braverman is expected to be a front runner. However, the former Home Secretary’s anticipated campaign has been described as “dead before it has even started,” with right-wing MP Danny Kruger said to support Mr Jenrick.
In a sign of how long the contest could extend, former Business Secretary Kevin Hollinrake stated on Monday that a leadership race could last until the end of the year, adding, “I don’t think there is any rush.”
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The Tories lost because, amongst other things, they were incompetent, corrupt and mendacious. They left behind a country where over 200,000 died in the pandemic and where nothing works properly any more.
Dont forget the three hundred million that was spend on nothing
@@ShindyAdams It wasn’t on nothing it was their pension plans
@alan So they were responsible for the pandemic as well as the disastrous lockdown?
@@ShindyAdams You're gonna have to narrow that down a bit. Which of the many three hundred millions spaffed on nothing are you talking about? (They wasted ten times that on a track and trace system that didn't deliver, twice that on sending nobody to Rwanda, etc.)
I agree but I would take that further. I would say that the Tories were FAR TOO incompetent, AND they treated us like fools FOR TOO LONG, AND the other side did not appear to be incompetent. The Tories were incompetent for a long time, and they treated us like fools for a long time, and we still accepted that. But they kept the incompetence and disrespect going further, and eventually they crossed the line. Maybe the Tories would still be in power if Labor were led by Corbyn?
The fact this man considers himself “centre-right” given his affiliation to the Truss camp shows how unbalanced our political system is.
Indeed. The fact Reform chose not to stand against him tells you all you need to know about him.
Well what is he then ? Far far right ? What does that even mean ? What device measures how right wing someone is ?
Exactly, that he considers that a party that has already moved to far to the right just to inveigle with extremists like Farage should move even further right shows that like many very right wingers doesn't see how out of touch they are with the mainstream.
@@Edward-cv2gw stances, principles, and their ideological foundations
@@wildfire9280word soup, you’ve said nothing.
Jesus he's still saying they did a lot well 😂😂😂 he was the weasel that parroted BoJo's lies for a knighthood!
There should be widely distributed list of all who where given titles and honours by Boris Johnson. They are all complicit and in time they should be taken away...
Farage is a not a centre right candidate...
If Farage is the answer, you're asking the wrong question. The guy is a liability. It would be hilariously inept if he went back to the Tory party.
Like jumping in a dark room with a load of nasty snakes slithering about, I doubt he will do that.
why is this man getting air time? He was voted out, so can he leave please.
He obviously suddenly has free time 😂
So can claim success with welfare reform education and Brexit! Food banks, crumbling schools and a disastrous no deal . Successes we should all be proud of
Absolutely totally agree 👍
He triees to sound humble but this is just a bunch of excuses
Never, ever let the Tories back into power again.
You might want them back when Labour have taxed your bits off and they have given all social housing to illegal immigrants as Angela Rayner wants to do.
@@oorya1780 BS
Reform UK
@@Jack-je6ipyes way. Reform’s manifesto was the best by far.
@itsagoal182 The manifesto was a joke completely unfunded, reform are a 1 issue party all they have is immigration take that away and they have absolutely nothing.
People voted against the Tories, not because of the timing of the election nor anyone's hair-cut nor the length of Mr Sunak's trousers. The people voted AGAINST the Tories because of the extreme Damage they've done for years and years. We the people, have had enough of the countless lies and self-serving of the Tory party.
That is the reason the Tories are out.
Simple.
Mel in Devon 🍰🌻
Well said !
Just another delusional Tory! 🙄
Problem is when you have rich entilted ppl in govt, you have a system bent towards rich entilted ppl.
@tony Don't worry. You might be rich one day.
And so?
Shame it's taken people SOOO LOOOOONG to realised this obvious truth
If you were badly effected by austerity its not over because the government who introduced it say its over. Austerity caused debt and misery and that debt is still with lots of people. Thank you posh boys, over and out!
I would love Suella Braverman to be the next Tory leader, she couldn't run a chip shop never mind a country.
😂😂 Say it louder for those at the back
I agree, she is completely unelectable and if she gets the job I don't see her lasting until the next election. She will cause division within the party and as the Tories slip even further in the polls she'll be booted out. Bear in mind with only 121 MPs, it only needs 19 of them to write to the 1922 Committee expressing a lack of faith in the leader to trigger a confidence vote.
She would destroy the party. Fantastic
I agree. It would be a train wreck.
I have never voted Tory and have campaigned against them most of my life. But I don't want them to choose a bad leader who will destroy them.
If the Tories self-destruct, they will be replaced by something more malign. And if Braverman became leader, the chance of Farage joining the Tories would be much higher.
This country would be a worse place if Trump imitators became a major part of our political landscape.
Complete BS! Don't believe a word of this guy. I dont know, he doesn't seem trust worthy at all!
I think 25 years in opposition would be great for the tories and even better for the country.
Just 25?
Labour will be far worse, we can all agree on that.
@@itsagoal182 worse than what?
@itsagoal182 "I cant!"
250*
The Tories will not accept that Brexit and anti European rhetoric has been a big reason why they lost.
Lol it had absolutely nothing to do with that. Do you think red wall northern voted were lamenting foreign policy issues with the EU when they voted ?
It wasn't that, the Tories were divided on it. If they were united on brexit, not a problem. Labour had a similar issue.
@@Edward-cv2gw People were lied about brexit and too many believed the lies, look at the pro-brexit ads, obvious now just a complete bunch of lies, why, brexit was really for the rich to cut their taxes.
Sadly some still have not accepted how they were deceived.
You’re clueless if you think that
@Edward-cv2gw Red wall voters may not identify the issue but indirectly there living standards reducing is significantly linked to Brexit.
Tax revenue lost in trade and investment is replaced by a higher tax burden and reduced services we now witness.
They’re always sorry for their cause, the team etc. which is understandable.
Never do they stop to feel bad for the countless thousands of disabled and other vulnerable people who were driven to penury and despair. Grotesque poverty in the shadow of gargantuan wealth of a few. Thats what they stood for, and after the usual period of supposedly deep reflection, it’s what they’ll stand for again
If Sir Simon thinks the Labour Party is a Socialist party he is a bigger fool than he looks.
More left wing than Chairman Moa apparently
It's the nature of hard right wingers to imply that the centre left is hard left, and of the hard left to say that the centre right are hard right.
@@cricketerfrench7501 Chairman Moa must be some scary bird! Woof!
This man is talking like he didn't have 14 years to sort it out he just needed another 14 years to get it done
Wow. Open to fascists joining the Conservatives and wondering why they lost...
I just commented the same. How come I know more about what's going on, and I'm a fecking violin teacher.
@@DellaWilliams-vo3ezthey aren’t terribly bright, they just think they are.
You need to go educate yourself on what fascism means.
@@richardwilliams5387 still waiting…
@@itsagoal182 Keep waiting. I don't answer to you.
Imagine Suella as party lead. 😂
The austerity approach of cutting taxes on the rich while cutting services for everyone else was destructive and a failure.😢😢😢😢😢😢
How can you be in favour of individual liberty while opposing human rights?
@andrew Stop parroting nonsense and give us all a rest.
@@chatham43 Why not provide a rational argument?
@@chatham43Remember this is the party that wanted to remove government funding to ANY charity whonos critical.of Tory policies. These guys hate freedoms.
I doubt it matters. Until the Tories accept that sliding further to the right is a bad idea, the Tories can never recover.
They are as centre as you can get, only by being right of centre will they pick back votes.
The whole reason they lost was because they are not conservative anymore.
If they don’t right, they will never have power again… Reform now occupies 20% of their vote. Including mine.
I voted Tory all my life. If they don’t bring real, believable right wing policies to the table AND every wet Tory who lied to us is out of the party, I won’t vote for them.
I loved that line about Labour throwing a lot of money at a campaign. What a round about way of saying your sponsors are leaving you.
It's amazing how none of the Tories are willing to say "we lost because we are both crooks and incompentent, and the public noticed."
Well said👏👏👏👏👏
Vile Tory. No apology. No regrets. I want my human rights
Tories wrecked the UK
This guy is clueless
He is calling racism “CENTER-right”…
@alan..it's centre...how many more times?
@@chatham43 Correct.
Suella for the Tories for a generation, theyd disappear under her 😂
Yeah... Suella called Cruella😁
As long as they keep thinking that they lost because they were not conservative enough, the longer they will stay out in the cold....
...and the longer you think that...the sooner they'll be back.
@@chatham43 to steal, deprive us of our rights and enrich their mates?
Left wing government if he thinks Labour is Left wing he is a Facist people voted Labour because Starmer got rid of the Loony left and trots.
Labour are not a socialist party.
Fifteen years ago everywhere had an NHS dentist, nowhere had a foodbank.
@chris No foodbanks before 2010 then..?😂😂
@@chatham43 In 2009 41,000 British families had visited a foodbank in the last three months. By 2024 that number had risen to over 3,127,000. Of course, Rishi Sunak didn't have Sky TV when he was a teenager.
@@chrisoneill3999
Because their priorities are wrong
@@chatham43Foodbanks pre 2010 was for emergencies, they almost never seen people come in year after year.
More often would be people who just lost a job but had not managed to sort there benefits out.
Post 2010 it was a staple for even people in full time work.
And another thing..knighthoods for politicians have to stop. No second jobs, no knighthoods.
Did I blink and miss the analysis of why Braverman is finished, or was the title merely click-bait? Pah - what a waste of time.
Will these losers ever stop talking about themselves?
Country is centre right. Yeah that's why they elected Labour a centre right party, the tories are far far right now.
...so that's all right then?
Did anyone count how many times he said "I" so far?
Cruella is unbearable
Brexit, Covid handling, Truss' mini budget, Boris' parties while the rest of the country obeyed the rules -- yes I think Rishi was not the only problem. The WHOLE Conservative party is the problem. Farewell.
Austerity!...
And Marr is senile if he thinks Reeves sounded like Truss today, purely because growth was mentioned.
Truss is demented. Reeves not.
Cant listen to Marr these days, his questioning is really low quality now
...and Truss is a tory and Reeves isn't...or is she?
they now realise when the voting is against them that is the system, and as they said after brexit 52/48 the people have spoken and we should respect it , well they have spoken again and respect their choice and go away for a long time as we need them like a hole in the head, they have bled the system dry and still think they can get back quick
He honors Brexit to the last ditch? Credibility instantly gone!
14 years wasted trying to stop working people get on the housing ladder and selling out to Nimbys. Suddenly the boot is on the other foot and we should do something about building more houses. Too late mate.
@never And you want the opportunity to be another NIMBY?
And he still thinks they got things right !!!!! Deluded
Their obsession with Brexit is what ensured me never voting for the Tories again.
Its over because even her own MPs cant stand her
@@nigeltrigger4499 Not desperate, truthful. If you think Braverman is popular you need to give your head a wobble. Aside from that she's incompetent, hence sacked , and she would be the final nail on the Tories coffin
@@nigeltrigger4499if she becomes leader, the Tories will lose more seats at the next election, not gain them
I think I posted in the wrong thread previously! I f*cking hate the Tories and really don't care about Braverman!
The Tories harped on about the economy is now on the up.... Well the majority of the electorate hadn't seen or felt any benefits of this so called rise economically.
Racism and xenophobia can only go so far🤷
UK politicians both Labour and Tory are delusional that they can make any significant economic impact outside of the EU. Yes, Labour will be better than the tories but it’ll just be a slower rate of descent vs the tory free fall.
If Cruella isn't appointed leader she will defect to reform.
She is a perfect fit for the Nigel party of haters and populists.
love how he implied that Nigel Farage is centre-right. Maybe replace the word centre with hard and you're half way there
Why is he hard right? Give me one of his hard right policies
I don't think you know what the Hard right" is, thankfully we don't have them in this country.
@professorjamesmoriarty5191 the idea beer swilling,ex lbc presenting im a celeb contestant Nige is hard right is just absurd. Utterly absurd,but effective propaganda potentially to discredit him. Lie about someone to discredit them, it can work.
Any evidence that he is hard right? What was that? Shhhhh…
@user-hj2cr7pc8h By whose definition ? Who defines what is centre right,far right,hard right ?
No way the Tories can come back. The country hates them.
Everyone is wrong on housebuilding: the lack of housebuilding has nothing to do with the planning process or land supply. The housebuilders have built up massive land banks and they are also stockpiling planning permissions. What they have not been doing is building houses! They have been deliberately restricting housebuilding numbers in order to maintain the prices of new houses. In the process, they have largely destroyed the housebuilding workforce, so there is no way for anyone to increase the supply of new houses.
All crooks
Suella Bravermen for PM
The final nail in the Tory coffin
Funny how they have all these answers and solutions AFTER being in control of being able to fix them for the past several years.
Please, please, please that Suella Braverman be Tory leader and watched the party sink further into the mire 😂😂😂
A meaningless interview with a political myopic... Zero insight or humility.
“ I love Westminster” - Not I love my constituents and want to represent my constituents and serve them with Dignity and honour” Shame……minimum 15yrs in opposition….. go and do something else with your life
I think a majority in this country Simon hope you don't return
@paul But you don't know that...come back when you do...
I hope that Braverman is chosen. It will be hilarious how badly she fails.
It doesn't matter who is chosen, their party is divided.
The underlying issues..., huge greed, corruption , incompetence, people barely able to afford to eat or heat their home. How can this supposedly educated man really propose its anything more than base human greed, ignorance and immorality at the expense of an entire country and generation.
Apart from all that they weren’t too bad.
there isnt a tory that can run a country for the benefit of its people , rather than the benefit of the few, thats the problem and they have got away with it for 200 yrs with little opposition and this time they really have got routed and hopefully labour can prove the point that the people need a government that is for the many not the few
Simon plays well with other children but has difficulty identifying that the Tories are no longer in power and that nobody cares what he thinks
“Most left wing government since the 1970’s.” Oh Please, that’s so painfully pathetic as a statement.
And went unchallenged!
“Centre right” 😂😂😂
"Insight" and "Liz Truss" are words that don't belong in the same sentence
No illusions eh? Says the guy whose only criticism of 14 years of tory failure seems to relate to housing. I think there was a bit more to it...
There is only 1 candidate for the leadership but he lost his seat 😢 Last seen riding his penny farthing down the cobbled streets of York.
Liz Truss should be the next Tory leader.
It’s the least the party deserves.
"Deep thinking" in that shallow puddle of talent? Not going to happen.
who is this has been , didn't we have an election ?
All tories are trash
@pop So you voted reform?
Haha! Rwanda was going to work? Get up the yard!
Why is he being asked iif the new government is on the right track? He's a loser.
I hope Braverman does become the Tory leader. Let an extreme right wing Tory party squabble with an extreme right wing Reform party for the next 5 years :)
Call me Nostradamus, but, I have a strong belief that the next leader will be a traditional Tory, traditional in all aspects, traditional in thought, knowledge and, err, appearence..
15.2 million votes for the 'Centre-Left' parties as opposed to 10 million for the 'Centre-Right and Right' parties shows that the Country has shifted away from the divisive politics of the Right.
Funny how such a clearly "centre right" party and individuals need to constantly reference they are in fact centre right.
Just because a policy might “appear” the same, it’s very unlikely Reeves is another Truss.
Is that all you have?
Tories trying to warn us about Labour is a bit fkn rich after the last 14 years and more than DOUBLING THE NATIONAL DEBT
And they doubled CENTURIES of national debt in ONLY A DECADE!!
HOLY FRRK
Can you IMAGINE the size of the job Labour have on their hands??
Don't want to hear about them for a very long time. Could we ignore them and their deadly leadership campaign please. Please.
What a joke...... crashed the car into a tree and blamed the tree..... 😂😂😂😂😂
The knives are out already.
The corrupt opportunistic egos of the Tories is big part of their downfall.
Braveman will keep that legacy humming along.
Every tosspot arguing to leave or diminish the ECHR should be compelled to state which human rights they would be willing for their families to give up.
Hearing Tories talk honestly is so refreshing and maybe if they did it in the campaign maybe a level of trust would of been allowed
anyone who says they love Westminster and the way it operates should be banned from politics for life.
Is SB going to be the new leader going forward? 🤔 The odds are not going to be in her favour ✋️
“Human rights shouldn’t apply to some humans”. Horrendous party and outlook
Never forget they were in power for 14 years and left the country broken
The Tories just dont understand the hatred and contempt there is for them. Wake up!!
Please explain in detail what you got right .. 😂😂😂 never again ...
They had 14 years, if it didn't happen then, when was it supposed to happen? They wasted so much in time and public money
You didn't lose just because of house building.
You lost because you had 3 appalling and morally devoid Prime Ministers in 5 years.
It was the Tories that got us in to all the problems we are now living within, but they always say how they will fix them, but they made them in the first place. Its kind of like a Chef making the wrong meal for some one and then blaming it on the poor Kitchen staff, who was following the Chefs orders and instructions in the first place.
Why is it understandable that Sunak won’t/can’t’t stay on until another leader is found? Because he’s a coward? Because he never was and never will be a leader of anything again? Makes me chuckle how the mighty (and arrogant with it!) have fallen….
Nobody trusts the Tories anymore,after breaking so many rules they themselves introduced,I surely don't trust Braverman,go reform
please, please - let it be Braverman! .. that will ensure that they will move further to the fringe and oblivion
If the Labour party poured money into the campaign, as he alleges, where did all the billions go given to the Tories by their cronies? Oh, sorry, they're Tories with better things to spend it on.