A video looking at Warsaw Pact countries, like Bulgaria, Czechia or Romania, and their production and resupply for Ukraine would be great. I’m especially interested in the reports that domestic manufacturers (in Bulgaria) have been supplying a significant portion of ammo for Ukraine. Also the clandestine operations that were undertaken by Russia in places like Czechia against ammo depots. I think it would be a perfect topic surrounding defence economics, a favoured topic on this channel.
Shame the points of the 'first' episode werent taken as seriously in allied capitals as they might, because a year ago you made a good case that this was an artillery conflict and shortages would hark back to 1915. I suppose human nature always wants wars to be over quicker than they are, but this seems a case where we could genuinely have learned from history and fot ahead of the curve. Lets hope the lesson has been learned. Thanks.
HAH! Nope. Keeping all those artilery shell factories, cranking out ammunition we don't need running? That's expensive. Both for the companies who are producing a product that no one needs. Or the goverment/taxpayers, if it is directly funding the production of a shell excess. What I do hope, is when the war is over, the higher capacity is maintained, even if left unused.
@@Destroyer_V0i think he meant that its a shame that production didnt increase sooner :) Cause politicans thought the stockpiles would last long enough for this war
@@pirminp7090 While that certainly is one interpretation. More damning is the thought that we would NEVER need such a basic thing like artilleries ammunition in the vast quantities seen in prior wars, ever again.
This was the most informed, most logical and most thoughtful discussion of delivery of DPICM to Ukraine from any media source that I have come across in the past couple months. I won’t comment in detail on any of your insights because I pretty much agree with all of them. One small comment on my end where I would add a thought- at the end you said that if you were giving Ukraine a military aid package and could choose any systems, you would focus on artillery and throw in some storm shadow, gmlrs, etc. i would just add that throwing in a small amount for munitions that could be deployed from fpv drones would also be a cheap and productive use of resources. Do I think that fpv drones are better than gmlrs at counter battery fire? No. They’re probably inferior to dpicm for that as well. But they quite good at hitting grad systems and self-propelled artillery systems, and they’re better than gmlrs for stopping moving targets like tanks, bmps, and trucks full of fuel or munitions. So if you can deliver a few thousand munitions that can be strapped to an fpv, you can probably save tens of thousands of rounds of artillery that would be expended trying to hit moving targets. The fpv drones often don’t completely destroy, for example, a t90 tank, but if they hit the rear then they can stop the tank, the crew often abandons the tank, and then it’s much easier to hit with artillery or cheap drone-dropped grenades once it’s not moving and its top hatches are left open. So just as dpicm rounds allow Ukraine to expend fewer conventional artillery rounds and barrels, substituting fpv drones with rpg warheads can also slow the depreciation rate of artillery barrels and shells. I know that you also understand this since I watched your video on drones, but I thought i would mention it explicitly in a comment since you didn’t mention the benefits of this particular role for cheap fpv drones (and also sometimes bigger munition-dropping drones on some battlefields) as a substitute for artillery. Thanks for making this great video!
I have to tell you that I am very grateful to you for your videos. I appreciate your calm rational and factual delivery. More power to your Elbow! Thank you.
If Ukraine falters because Russia manages to outproduce the combined economies of the West... Well, let's just say I might develop Forest Whitaker eye.
I absolutely love your channel, fine sir. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this knowledge with us. It has greatly expanded my understanding of this war, and war in general. Thank you, kindly. I hope your well.
@@MeeesterBond17 perun uses russian sources and then proceeds to mock them, he then bases his analysis taking western sources at mostly face value, especially orix.
@@somedudeonline-i3t I mean, if they will claim to have shot down 150% of all Ukrainian aircraft, then post a gray-scale screenshot from Tiberium Assault when claiming to have destroyed a HIMARS system, they deserve mockery, wouldn't you say? And no, he's not taking Oryx at face value. He admits there's a lot of data duplication, but that the team take down duplicates as soon as they're pointed out. That explains why lost vehicle numbers sometimes go down, not up. Plus, visually verified losses are always going to be lower than real losses, so it's safe to use them without any massive fear of over-claiming lost Russian vehicles.
This channel is the best source I've found on information about the Ukrainian war from a strategic perspective. It's almost as if Perun is some kind of advanced AI that scans the entire internet for all available data on the was and compiles it into an easy to understand and informative short presentation.
Some people truly forget THIS IS WAR. This isn’t normal peacetime where civilians are the primary focus. Especially when dealing with an invader who openly suggests your ethnicity doesn’t exist, and you’re Russian, and you must not fight back, or else civilians die, but not the Russians killing the civilians. This is the difficult decisions in war
I think for the Ukrainians, the addition of cluster munitions to their arsenal was a pretty easy decision. It was only in some Western countries that it was a difficult one. 👍🙂
@@tellyboy17 It may have taken the US all this time to make that connection but I think Ukraine realized it within the first month of the invasion last year and began requesting them soon afterwards. They've just been waiting for the approval and delivery up until now.
I really want to watch a round table of you Beau and Lazar Pig, discussing logistics and specifically the "quantity has a quality of it's own" question.
I'm still in the middle of watching the whole thing, but I've noticed that from min 5:23 to min 6:12 the audio turned a little bad (I double checked with my phone, just in case I was hearing things). I'm guessing that the recording software messed up while exporting the audio file or something. The comment is just to highlight the issue to Perun, not meant to downplay any effort around the making of this video. Have a nice day, everyone.
Speaking as an American, our emotional support ammunition is important to us and we have a doctor's note saying we're allowed to take it with us anywhere we go.
It‘s hardly possible to top all those presentations here - brilliant work presented with an wonderful humour so even politicians could be able to follow. It would be great, if this work get much more popularity. Multiple talk shows miss again and again the point, which is clearly stated here. With big hunger for more!
"...circling like a band of particularly murderous paparazzi..." I believe the scale from least to most murderous is: Seagulls Stymphalian birds (see: Labours of Heracles) Murder hornets Recon drones Paparazzi
The worst "technical" conversion I've seen was a pick-up truck with four grad launcher barrels on the bed, one of which seemed to have been converted to some sort of sighting device. And it was touted as some sort of command post sniping weapon even though all you can do in the way of aiming is basically hope the unguided grad rockets will hit the right post code.
Another fantastic vid this week Aussie. Great timing for addressing the artillery a year later with the announcement of the DPICMs coming to battlefield. Keep up the great work. I'm hopeful next year your videos will address much of what is going on in Ukraine but looking back in hindsight at a war that has already ended. Would like some more gaming videos too. Try and make some time for gaming. You no doubt need some time to chillax by playing some strategy games. #StandWithKiwiland #StopEmuAggression
When people try to argue the "morals" of sending CM to Ukraine I have a hard time taking them seriously. The civilian cost of NOT supporting Ukraine far outweighs the potential UXO after the fact.
And people also seem to think that: A) UXO and landmines are somehow not already at the level where every single area that has seen combat actions need to be thoroughly demined before civilians can safely venture there again. B) The UXOs from cluster munitions magically turn into actual land mines, whereas a mortar dud does not turn into a land mine.
@@XxBloggs There is already hundreds of thousands of other unexploded munitions and millions of land mines that need to get cleared. Cluster munitions are no more, and no less, dangerous than duds of regular shells, mortars, rockets and grenades. The bomblets do no turn into land mines if they're duds. They're just duds. The original argument was that all dud-rates being equal then firing one ordinary shell is one potential UXO but a cluster shell is 88 potential UXOs (or however many is in the particular variant). What that argument (and I still vividly remember back in the 90s when every journalist was suddenly an expert) doesn't take into account is that it takes almost the exact same amount of time and effort to clear 1 square kilometer of ground of UXO and mines regardless of how many you find. So what I'm saying is: If you're concerned about children picking up stuff that explodes then you're concerned about mostly everything that goes boom. From 40mm grenades from grenade launchers up to about 120mm mortars are about the size a child might pick up, and none of them penetrate deep enough into the ground, when they fail to detonate, to not be a concern. The heavier shells like 152/152mm generally end up rather deeper in the ground, but a plow sheer could set them off. What this boils down to is that you're concerned about Russians brining war to a country, that don't want to just bend over and take it, because that's the root cause of UXOs in Ukraine.
@@XxBloggsit is still pretty concerning, but it is Ukraine requesting these to then fire to defend their own territory. it shows how dire it is and critical they need shells; considering the future risk is to their own civilians. This separates it from the use of cluster munitions on foreign territory.
As most objections against cluster munitions seem to be that they're difficult to clear up once the war is over, and since the war is fought on Ukrainian soil, I'd say let the Ukie's themselves decide. It's not like the stuff is especially immoral (compared to everything else), it's just a nuisance.
I doubt they are as hard to sweep as anti personnel mines. The bomb-lets are metallic. The risk to civilians is very different in Ukraine. All the battlefields will be utterly lethal from AT tank mines, AT personnel mines, and massive amounts of deeply embedded dud ordinance. The extra hazard posed by dud bomb-lets is trivial compared to the other hazards already laying about the battlefield. The post war cleanup task will be immense, failed cluster munitions will be a trivial component of that clean up. I'm unclear on the failure rate of Russian 152 mm shells, but they have fired them in millions. The bomb-lets are scattered on the surface, not intentionally camouflaged, and metallic.
@@tezzy5584 Well, apart from war being a crime in general, this isn't. Although I understand your frustration. My personal gripe is how the enemy always seems to use Kamikaze Drones (ew.. sounds insidious) while our side only uses very friendly innocent sounding Loitering Ammunitions.
Thank you for publishing the audio for your videos!!! Your material is so dense I need to hear it several times and at slow speed to process your data and analysis I found your audio on pocket casts but not on iTunes Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for the work and time you invest in your content Exceptional and generous
I wish every channel had the audio clarity and quality this one does. I just came from the Whistlerverse, which most will agree has very high production value, and yet the audio quality in this video was so different (better) that it was almost a slap in the face.
NY Times article dated July 16, 2023 points out how difficult mines are making the Ukrainian offense. PS - It’s interesting that the majority of news stories on cluster munitions don’t mention that Russians have been using similar weapons since day one. PS2 - Wonder if Ukraine could take a few artillery shells and repackage bomblets as a warhead for a drone attacking a ship or fuel farm in Sevastopol?
Bomblets would probably only do superficial damage to a ship. They’d probably penetrate the deck and the bridge roof, but ships are so large that they wouldn’t hit anything that would actually sink the ship. They might get lucky and hit a missile launcher and set off the warhead, but that’s.....well....it actually might be likely on a Ruzzian ship. Against fuel tanks, cluster munitions would probably be very effective. But you still have to get them there, and Ukraine unfortunately didn’t get the Storm Shadow variants that can hit Sevastopol.
@@bluemarlin8138 They could trash things like radars and communications antennae, and could potentially set off weapons stored on deck such as torpedoes.
Amazing analysis on a gruesome topic. Coherent and realistic. You must have spent hours and hours to realise this piece. Let's hope there is no need for another follow-up piece.
The line “Some systems like Grad are basically just a block of explosive rockets on the back of a truck. So much as tickle those things and they’re gonna cook harder than a Texas barbecue” actually had me laughing out loud.
7:19 As a former Artillery man, yes that's about right. Have a expression for lack of better wording called "steel on steel", where a shell hits a tank or other armored vehicle directly. One of the more sought after reports about what your rounds did. So yeah I'd say we'd be very happy to see a line of tanks moving nice and slow.
@Perun, I would like to thank you for a perfectly prepared high quality presentation. I appreciate all your work you put into these videos and I must say you have found a perfect format for me. Throughout the last year I am watching your channel, you have upheld a very high quality standard. I am very grateful for what you do.
30:04 in 1965 during the Battle of Ia Drang Valley, six 105 mm howitzers fired about 10,000 rounds over a few days, by the end of which only two guns were still firing. Over three days that would easily be over 500 rounds per gun per day.
@@aleekamuiHave you never watched a game before? The momentum and pacing changes all the time. If one side keeps the momentum long enough they usually win. Cluster munitions increasing available shell counts helps Ukraine keep the momentum.
@@user-ll7lf9pg1t I think those past game changers contributed significantly to Ukraine surviving up until now and having the propaganda and Initiative edge.
I think it could be interesting to hear you talking about military industry in Ukraine. How much do they make, what are they making and can they build up more.
One thing that has to be considered though when assessing the difference in value or worth of towed guns versus self propelled guns is that towed guns usually are manned by a crew of 7 to 10 people, while SPGs have a crew of 3 to 4. So every lost towed gun - doesn't have to, but might - imply much higher casualties.
@@TrangleC Oh they are and do stay away. Crews aren't stupid. They don't stand next to the artillery system unless they absolutely bloody well have to. By the way, that's impressively quick upvoting you do for yourself...
@@kalervolatoniittu2011 counter battery radar doesnt care about camo. If you perform a fire mission as an artillety piece, once you are finished you leave the premise as there is a very high probability of receiving some shells back at you in the following minute(s).
As an American I can vouch for the concept of emotional support ammo; i personally own an emotional support rifle.
They let you fly with it too?
@@Kenneth_James only in Florida, the lesser states dont care for it.
@@Kenneth_James
Checked of course, in a locked case.
I use mine for just a little more than emotional support, but yes I totally understand.
Only 1 emotional support rifle? What are you....Californian?
A video looking at Warsaw Pact countries, like Bulgaria, Czechia or Romania, and their production and resupply for Ukraine would be great. I’m especially interested in the reports that domestic manufacturers (in Bulgaria) have been supplying a significant portion of ammo for Ukraine. Also the clandestine operations that were undertaken by Russia in places like Czechia against ammo depots. I think it would be a perfect topic surrounding defence economics, a favoured topic on this channel.
Shame the points of the 'first' episode werent taken as seriously in allied capitals as they might, because a year ago you made a good case that this was an artillery conflict and shortages would hark back to 1915. I suppose human nature always wants wars to be over quicker than they are, but this seems a case where we could genuinely have learned from history and fot ahead of the curve. Lets hope the lesson has been learned. Thanks.
HAH!
Nope. Keeping all those artilery shell factories, cranking out ammunition we don't need running? That's expensive. Both for the companies who are producing a product that no one needs. Or the goverment/taxpayers, if it is directly funding the production of a shell excess.
What I do hope, is when the war is over, the higher capacity is maintained, even if left unused.
@@Destroyer_V0i think he meant that its a shame that production didnt increase sooner :)
Cause politicans thought the stockpiles would last long enough for this war
@@pirminp7090 While that certainly is one interpretation.
More damning is the thought that we would NEVER need such a basic thing like artilleries ammunition in the vast quantities seen in prior wars, ever again.
This was the most informed, most logical and most thoughtful discussion of delivery of DPICM to Ukraine from any media source that I have come across in the past couple months.
I won’t comment in detail on any of your insights because I pretty much agree with all of them.
One small comment on my end where I would add a thought- at the end you said that if you were giving Ukraine a military aid package and could choose any systems, you would focus on artillery and throw in some storm shadow, gmlrs, etc. i would just add that throwing in a small amount for munitions that could be deployed from fpv drones would also be a cheap and productive use of resources. Do I think that fpv drones are better than gmlrs at counter battery fire? No. They’re probably inferior to dpicm for that as well. But they quite good at hitting grad systems and self-propelled artillery systems, and they’re better than gmlrs for stopping moving targets like tanks, bmps, and trucks full of fuel or munitions. So if you can deliver a few thousand munitions that can be strapped to an fpv, you can probably save tens of thousands of rounds of artillery that would be expended trying to hit moving targets. The fpv drones often don’t completely destroy, for example, a t90 tank, but if they hit the rear then they can stop the tank, the crew often abandons the tank, and then it’s much easier to hit with artillery or cheap drone-dropped grenades once it’s not moving and its top hatches are left open.
So just as dpicm rounds allow Ukraine to expend fewer conventional artillery rounds and barrels, substituting fpv drones with rpg warheads can also slow the depreciation rate of artillery barrels and shells.
I know that you also understand this since I watched your video on drones, but I thought i would mention it explicitly in a comment since you didn’t mention the benefits of this particular role for cheap fpv drones (and also sometimes bigger munition-dropping drones on some battlefields) as a substitute for artillery.
Thanks for making this great video!
I have to tell you that I am very grateful to you for your videos. I appreciate your calm rational and factual delivery. More power to your Elbow! Thank you.
If Ukraine falters because Russia manages to outproduce the combined economies of the West... Well, let's just say I might develop Forest Whitaker eye.
And go in to politics as a war daddy just to make sure it NEVER happens again.
Its not being outprodused its how much they are willing to donate
@@shadowlord1418europe is literally getting stripped , only china can outproduce em all
I absolutely love your channel, fine sir. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this knowledge with us. It has greatly expanded my understanding of this war, and war in general. Thank you, kindly. I hope your well.
it's mostly propaganda tho.
@@somedudeonline-i3t Please clarify. Perun uses Russian and Ukrainian sources, but is sceptical of both.
@@MeeesterBond17 perun uses russian sources and then proceeds to mock them, he then bases his analysis taking western sources at mostly face value, especially orix.
@@somedudeonline-i3t I mean, if they will claim to have shot down 150% of all Ukrainian aircraft, then post a gray-scale screenshot from Tiberium Assault when claiming to have destroyed a HIMARS system, they deserve mockery, wouldn't you say?
And no, he's not taking Oryx at face value. He admits there's a lot of data duplication, but that the team take down duplicates as soon as they're pointed out. That explains why lost vehicle numbers sometimes go down, not up. Plus, visually verified losses are always going to be lower than real losses, so it's safe to use them without any massive fear of over-claiming lost Russian vehicles.
Yes, another 1+ hour powerpoint session ! (never thought I would feel that way before)
This channel is the best source I've found on information about the Ukrainian war from a strategic perspective. It's almost as if Perun is some kind of advanced AI that scans the entire internet for all available data on the was and compiles it into an easy to understand and informative short presentation.
54:35
"The Soviet Union was the Soviet Union." -Perun, 2023
Like him or not, he's spitting straight facts.
the floor is made of floor
Some people truly forget THIS IS WAR.
This isn’t normal peacetime where civilians are the primary focus. Especially when dealing with an invader who openly suggests your ethnicity doesn’t exist, and you’re Russian, and you must not fight back, or else civilians die, but not the Russians killing the civilians.
This is the difficult decisions in war
? Civilians are the priority in war.
I think for the Ukrainians, the addition of cluster munitions to their arsenal was a pretty easy decision. It was only in some Western countries that it was a difficult one. 👍🙂
@@tellyboy17 It may have taken the US all this time to make that connection but I think Ukraine realized it within the first month of the invasion last year and began requesting them soon afterwards. They've just been waiting for the approval and delivery up until now.
@@emilsinclair4190No, they're not. Survival of the country is always foremost, or we wouldn't have drafts.
I really want to watch a round table of you Beau and Lazar Pig, discussing logistics and specifically the "quantity has a quality of it's own" question.
Dear sir, nice to meet you at this intersection!
Not sure what you think Lazer Pig has to contribute to such a discussion, as he's just another shitposter regurgitating the latest trends.
Beau, Kraut and Perun on the NAFO roundtable would be great
Holy shit Perun thank you so much for another great vid to end my week, (or start my week). Looking forward to more great vids all the time. ❤❤❤❤❤
This is one of the best episodes you have put out in the last year! Thanks so much for your work!
Thank you Perun for another informative and thoughtful video. My son and I look forward to your videos every week and we always learn something new.
I'm still in the middle of watching the whole thing, but I've noticed that from min 5:23 to min 6:12 the audio turned a little bad (I double checked with my phone, just in case I was hearing things). I'm guessing that the recording software messed up while exporting the audio file or something.
The comment is just to highlight the issue to Perun, not meant to downplay any effort around the making of this video.
Have a nice day, everyone.
always good to note audio issues! especially if they don't come through on my hardware.
I used to think covert cabal was the junk food of defense entertainment, but he's put in a lot of valuable work to be honest.
Speaking as an American, our emotional support ammunition is important to us and we have a doctor's note saying we're allowed to take it with us anywhere we go.
@@holyknightthatpwns Worth it. :D
@@shorewall Pathetic 😳🤦🏼♂️
@@holyknightthatpwns America a leading supplier in unhealthcare.
It‘s hardly possible to top all those presentations here - brilliant work presented with an wonderful humour so even politicians could be able to follow. It would be great, if this work get much more popularity. Multiple talk shows miss again and again the point, which is clearly stated here. With big hunger for more!
Please consider publishing this masterpiece in parts to make it easier to link to your comprehensive analysis of cluster munition, for example.
Thank you Perun your analysis is always top notch
Who else has a weekly routine of meal prepping while listening to Perun's video in the background?
I've definitely cooked to this. Perun prep challenge: Can you finish a week's prep in 1 presentation 😁💪
Meal prepping?
@@Flyingjaffacake legit have tried that
"...circling like a band of particularly murderous paparazzi..."
I believe the scale from least to most murderous is:
Seagulls
Stymphalian birds (see: Labours of Heracles)
Murder hornets
Recon drones
Paparazzi
...
Let's train seagulls for warfare.
Densely detailed deductively dynamic, Dude! Dig it!
As always: Excellent analysis and delivery! TY!
The worst "technical" conversion I've seen was a pick-up truck with four grad launcher barrels on the bed, one of which seemed to have been converted to some sort of sighting device. And it was touted as some sort of command post sniping weapon even though all you can do in the way of aiming is basically hope the unguided grad rockets will hit the right post code.
I wonder if the sighting device was a few bolts ground to fine points like in Fallout 4 pipe weapons.
I would really like to hear more about what each Eastern European country is doing.
Thanks. 👍
Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦🇬🇧
You're the only game changer we need mate.
This one!!!! ☝️
"Our Man in Canberra"!
Thank you again and thank your patrons, contributors and sources
LIstening to you talk about this is a real pleasure. I like how you get into crunchy numbers and explain them.
Another fantastic vid this week Aussie. Great timing for addressing the artillery a year later with the announcement of the DPICMs coming to battlefield. Keep up the great work. I'm hopeful next year your videos will address much of what is going on in Ukraine but looking back in hindsight at a war that has already ended. Would like some more gaming videos too. Try and make some time for gaming. You no doubt need some time to chillax by playing some strategy games. #StandWithKiwiland #StopEmuAggression
When people try to argue the "morals" of sending CM to Ukraine I have a hard time taking them seriously. The civilian cost of NOT supporting Ukraine far outweighs the potential UXO after the fact.
And people also seem to think that:
A) UXO and landmines are somehow not already at the level where every single area that has seen combat actions need to be thoroughly demined before civilians can safely venture there again.
B) The UXOs from cluster munitions magically turn into actual land mines, whereas a mortar dud does not turn into a land mine.
@@XxBloggs There is already hundreds of thousands of other unexploded munitions and millions of land mines that need to get cleared. Cluster munitions are no more, and no less, dangerous than duds of regular shells, mortars, rockets and grenades. The bomblets do no turn into land mines if they're duds. They're just duds. The original argument was that all dud-rates being equal then firing one ordinary shell is one potential UXO but a cluster shell is 88 potential UXOs (or however many is in the particular variant). What that argument (and I still vividly remember back in the 90s when every journalist was suddenly an expert) doesn't take into account is that it takes almost the exact same amount of time and effort to clear 1 square kilometer of ground of UXO and mines regardless of how many you find.
So what I'm saying is: If you're concerned about children picking up stuff that explodes then you're concerned about mostly everything that goes boom. From 40mm grenades from grenade launchers up to about 120mm mortars are about the size a child might pick up, and none of them penetrate deep enough into the ground, when they fail to detonate, to not be a concern. The heavier shells like 152/152mm generally end up rather deeper in the ground, but a plow sheer could set them off. What this boils down to is that you're concerned about Russians brining war to a country, that don't want to just bend over and take it, because that's the root cause of UXOs in Ukraine.
@@XxBloggsit is still pretty concerning, but it is Ukraine requesting these to then fire to defend their own territory. it shows how dire it is and critical they need shells; considering the future risk is to their own civilians. This separates it from the use of cluster munitions on foreign territory.
As most objections against cluster munitions seem to be that they're difficult to clear up once the war is over, and since the war is fought on Ukrainian soil, I'd say let the Ukie's themselves decide. It's not like the stuff is especially immoral (compared to everything else), it's just a nuisance.
I think it make be the other way around? The US may have said you HAVE to clean it up afterwards If you want them?
I doubt they are as hard to sweep as anti personnel mines. The bomb-lets are metallic. The risk to civilians is very different in Ukraine. All the battlefields will be utterly lethal from AT tank mines, AT personnel mines, and massive amounts of deeply embedded dud ordinance. The extra hazard posed by dud bomb-lets is trivial compared to the other hazards already laying about the battlefield. The post war cleanup task will be immense, failed cluster munitions will be a trivial component of that clean up. I'm unclear on the failure rate of Russian 152 mm shells, but they have fired them in millions. The bomb-lets are scattered on the surface, not intentionally camouflaged, and metallic.
@@tezzy5584 Well, apart from war being a crime in general, this isn't. Although I understand your frustration. My personal gripe is how the enemy always seems to use Kamikaze Drones (ew.. sounds insidious) while our side only uses very friendly innocent sounding Loitering Ammunitions.
Thank you for publishing the audio for your videos!!!
Your material is so dense I need to hear it several times and at slow speed to process your data and analysis
I found your audio on pocket casts but not on iTunes
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for the work and time you invest in your content
Exceptional and generous
I wish every channel had the audio clarity and quality this one does.
I just came from the Whistlerverse, which most will agree has very high production value, and yet the audio quality in this video was so different (better) that it was almost a slap in the face.
Can't wait for the next bridge episode!
NY Times article dated July 16, 2023 points out how difficult mines are making the Ukrainian offense.
PS - It’s interesting that the majority of news stories on cluster munitions don’t mention that Russians have been using similar weapons since day one.
PS2 - Wonder if Ukraine could take a few artillery shells and repackage bomblets as a warhead for a drone attacking a ship or fuel farm in Sevastopol?
Ukrainian officials were asking for cluster munitions months ago for that purpose . Wanting do us the bomblets on drones.
In fact, there are a bunch of breathless headlines in western media (Reuters, CNN) about how Russia "will use" cluster munitions if the Ukrainians do.
Bomblets would probably only do superficial damage to a ship. They’d probably penetrate the deck and the bridge roof, but ships are so large that they wouldn’t hit anything that would actually sink the ship. They might get lucky and hit a missile launcher and set off the warhead, but that’s.....well....it actually might be likely on a Ruzzian ship.
Against fuel tanks, cluster munitions would probably be very effective. But you still have to get them there, and Ukraine unfortunately didn’t get the Storm Shadow variants that can hit Sevastopol.
@@bluemarlin8138 They could trash things like radars and communications antennae, and could potentially set off weapons stored on deck such as torpedoes.
I love the SK “emotinal support”
munitions. Actually had me Chucke
Fantastic, informative and refreshing insight on one of the core forces in the war.
Amazing analysis on a gruesome topic.
Coherent and realistic. You must have spent hours and hours to realise this piece.
Let's hope there is no need for another follow-up piece.
The line “Some systems like Grad are basically just a block of explosive rockets on the back of a truck. So much as tickle those things and they’re gonna cook harder than a Texas barbecue” actually had me laughing out loud.
Wish we could see the Tornado MW-1 munitions dispenser. Germany decomissioned the last ones in 2003 :(
Yes I remember those. Thanks for the memory.
7:19 As a former Artillery man, yes that's about right. Have a expression for lack of better wording called "steel on steel", where a shell hits a tank or other armored vehicle directly. One of the more sought after reports about what your rounds did. So yeah I'd say we'd be very happy to see a line of tanks moving nice and slow.
"...take turns trying to forge each others' signature." 😂😂😂 Thanks for my best laugh in days. It's just awesome.
@Perun, I would like to thank you for a perfectly prepared high quality presentation. I appreciate all your work you put into these videos and I must say you have found a perfect format for me. Throughout the last year I am watching your channel, you have upheld a very high quality standard. I am very grateful for what you do.
30:04 in 1965 during the Battle of Ia Drang Valley, six 105 mm howitzers fired about 10,000 rounds over a few days, by the end of which only two guns were still firing. Over three days that would easily be over 500 rounds per gun per day.
It's really the biggest game changer until now - unlocking the reserve of cluster munitions with the US.
@@aleekamuiyeah no, not a soul this side of the north Atlantic has claimed that.
We still need to get ATACMS and F-16s into Ukraine
Consider this a means of reducing the US inventory.
@@aleekamuiHave you never watched a game before? The momentum and pacing changes all the time. If one side keeps the momentum long enough they usually win. Cluster munitions increasing available shell counts helps Ukraine keep the momentum.
@@user-ll7lf9pg1t I think those past game changers contributed significantly to Ukraine surviving up until now and having the propaganda and Initiative edge.
I think it could be interesting to hear you talking about military industry in Ukraine. How much do they make, what are they making and can they build up more.
Thank you for your work. Your video on sunday is definitely one of my weekly highlights.
Perun, you got us a new video for my wife's birthday? You're the greatest
I'm just a few minutes in, and I have to respect your choice of handling such a controversial topic
One thing that has to be considered though when assessing the difference in value or worth of towed guns versus self propelled guns is that towed guns usually are manned by a crew of 7 to 10 people, while SPGs have a crew of 3 to 4. So every lost towed gun - doesn't have to, but might - imply much higher casualties.
On the other hand, crews stand to stay away from the artillery piece when not firing it, which is likely to decrease casualties!
@@johnbarrett915 They are not staying that far away that the hit of a 152mm round that kills the gun would not also likely kill the crew.
@@TrangleC Oh they are and do stay away. Crews aren't stupid. They don't stand next to the artillery system unless they absolutely bloody well have to.
By the way, that's impressively quick upvoting you do for yourself...
@@kalervolatoniittu2011 counter battery radar doesnt care about camo.
If you perform a fire mission as an artillety piece, once you are finished you leave the premise as there is a very high probability of receiving some shells back at you in the following minute(s).
"A bullet has your name on it. An artillery shell goes 'to who it may concern'."
Thank you for the repeated in-depth analyses that you provide. It is appreciated.
Brilliant production, eloquent presentation and thorough review. Thanks!