The world is MORE dangerous than during Cold War - and yet we cannot defend ourselves
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- Britain’s navy ‘can’t defend Britain’ from dangerous pre-war world, warns top admiral.
Admiral Lord West spoke to The Sun's Defence Editor Jerome Starkey on the World at War to discuss the current state of the UK armed forces and resilience on the home front.
- Contents of video -
00:00 - 00:19 - World at War introduction
00:19 - 02:02 - Britain’s navy can’t defend against modern adversaries
02:02 - 03:34 - Preparing for a pre-war world
03:34 - 06:33 - Britain needs new warships sooner
06:33 - 07:47 - Limitations of Britain’s armed forces
07:47 - 09:18 - Aircraft carrier capabilities
09:18 - 10:24 - RAF’s D-Day blunder
10:24 - 10:41 - Final comments
ENDS
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Sounds like the 1930's all over again, and who will pay the price for this incompetence when push comes to shove ?
Poland!
We all will
Defo even back then we had to purchases ships from US
@@David-Scuba Yes the yanks sold or swapped us their destroyers which were on their way to the scrappers anyway.
Defence is a Government’s main priority!!!! Scandalous.
LOL what BS
I think the Sun needs to interview David Murrin. He knows exactly what the UK needs to defend itself.
You have been invaded or invited the invaders....UK as we knew is gone.
which was not much to begin with
@@Greenturo
Unfortunately, many of our countries are suffering the same fate as we speak. Invaders invited in with little to no screening, allowing those who seek ill will of the modern free western world to hide and build within our borders, all under the guise of “woke humanitarian efforts”.
Yeah theh come here in dinghys
Remember that 4 letter word.... NATO? The one consisting of 3.5 million personnel.
UK is lucky it’s part of NATO.. BUT it desperately needs to up its military strength. If stuff hits the fan.. we will need a capable partner next to us.
"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse"
You have capable partners, not just one 🇪🇺
@@Akku-jv1lv amen brother. But it’s always smarter to be stronger, right? Just my opinion. We must not underestimate our enemies
Next to us is an overstatement,Next to the US as their lapdoggies is the actual statement.
Its funny. I see and hear comments from Europe about "We have NATO", not realizing that if every country takes that attitude, then "NATO" is toothless
They cut the number of ships. Worse still, they closed the land bases, for example, Daedalus, Fisguard, Protland, Royal Arthur, etc. Getting back the skills, knowledge, and quality of crew will take much longer than replacing the hardware.
Yeah the UK is not an empire anymore. That’s a GOOD thing. Generals always complain and say they don’t have enough money. Don’t get swept away by the hype machine.
Now we know where all the money for the five star hotels for dinghy divers has come from, the defence budget.
Our road tax also , our roads look like we have be bombed already
Absolutely mate. S
You’ve bought the lies…!? We spent all the war budget in AFGHANISTAN IRAQ and many places we need not be in getting our arses kicked….!? The Conservatives have austered all our tax money starving the NHS too, you lunatics are letting the Tory’s off light after now picking a fight with Russia without a stick nor stone to throw when Russia’s now amplified resources decides to strike!!
"They've all been a bit naughty"... That's such a British way to phrase something!
I like british accent, I have Jakarta accent close to american accent
Put the politicians making these decisions not to prepare in the front line when war comes.
The UK had better wake up.
They've been woken up for quite some time 🤣
Yep ..the fights at home first💉💉💉💉
Perhaps it is widely known but I was amazed top learn that the 2.5% rate of spending from next year will have to cover the cost of replacing all the kit given to Ukraine. I was told it will be barely enough to keep current programmes going with no increase in capability.
Need to spend more. Raise taxes on the rich. That's why they exist. They fund wars.
Under resourcing invites danger, and we have had thirty years of under resourcing while potential protagonists have been upping theirs. It's a scandal.
2 very expensive aircraft carriers,one is short on F35's,the other keeps breaking. To top it all,failed launches of our submarine nuclear missiles.
Well one and use the money for other defense more importantly needed
We need to invest in air defence and we need to fund the armed forces rather than sending money abroad wake up government
Go lovely limeys go! A strong Britain does nothing but help themselves and helps their allies: 🇺🇸😁👍🏻
Yes, the usa sadly now plays the role uk used to play by defending europe. You guys ( 🇺🇸) have more important areas, pacific
You'll know they're not good enough the next time we're invaded
This sounds very much like the caught with our pants down yet AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
I feel like if the US had a different president,some of these problems wouldn't exist...
hahaha, as if.
Yeah ,,, with Trumpy ,,, you'd already been lost . Sold by Donny for the D.r. Evil price of One Million Roubles .
I don’t think that’s true. David Cameron our foreign secretary is causing more issues than Biden ever has in making threats and winding up Putin
Why? The US military is the same no matter who the president is. It is funded by congress.
Definitely! We’re working on getting a different president.
Nudge unit working well
We are up the creek without a paddle Admiral.
Great work, Jerome. Very sobering!
Who can make the most drones Will be a deciding factor. We need to get drone production accelerated 1 million times greater than its current state.
the trump card (no pun intended) for drones hasn't been played yet
We have already created anti drone tech, they are not the answer. They were a stop gap whilst ammo and weapons were developed
It’s not the drones we should be concerned about making, it’s more Nuclear warheads, missiles or more defence weapons to shoot down any threats.
@@lukemorris4065anti drone defense? Why not drone offense?
@@zoecellis88Air defence system, like isreals iron dome
Our grandchildren Will suffer
The enemy already lives within
I would think a build up of military will give reason for China, Russia and Iran to escalate, because it certainly will create a response. The old adage, if you don't have a plan B then you don't have a plan A...
Question ... what is plan B... because plan A is years away??? Very good interview if it was a question, statement question dialogue.
as if they need a reason?
Both the countries you mentioned right now are building their own military capabilities.
I dont belive we spend £75 billion a year on defense, like where dose it go?
To your opening question - no. That simple.
It's high time the yUK stop spending everything on their nanny state while parasiting off the US's defense budget. GB needs to finally do their fair share.
Yes, that´s a painful and uncomfortable truth!!
no ameriKa needs to go home and dont come back
Are you daft 🤣
@@paraguard60no it's a complete fallacy said by warmongering Americans. You spend alot but you also have the biggest economy and over pay for everything. You also wage all the wars 🤣
We have done our part since before you were even a country. Sit down 😂
Lol... There's very little difference between the percentage of GDP spent on defense between the two countries and by the end of the decade the percentage of GDP going to the armed forces budget will be almost identical between the UK and US at around 2.5%!
Very Excellent , Thank You !!
Next government, we’ll be watching
The A 400 keeps breaking,the C130 was very reliable and loved by the aircrew.
The weaker we, the British forces, look, the higher risk of an actual shooting war.
Ah yes, because the Chinese and Russians look at UK military, not US military, before making the decision to strike. Honestly, you guys could do a lot better if you let go of that useless pride of being a "global power" and instead invest in an f'in Coast Guard and a Police Force.
It's OK our PrimeBeanCounter has a spreadsheet for that, as long as he's memo'ed Putin about not starting any wars in Europe before 2030 we're OK.
😂😂😂
If the UK isn't expediting things in all seriousness then later on if things do happen just remember what has been said on these videos.
If we weren't in NATO we could easily be invaded at the moment
Having capable armed forces is similar to having an umbrella at hand to avoid ruining your suit in a sudden rain shower. 🤔🌧️😜
Thank You for an AUDIO Video, not the "Sun" Silent Movie... !!!
amazing interview
The UK needs a larger Navy but I think it can be argued that the West especially the U.S. Australia, Canada and New Zealand rely heavily on the U.K. eavesdropping, intelligence gathering and cyber warfare/defense. Maybe it needs that and a larger army and Air Force. But I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say that the U.K. isn’t pulling its weight (like Germany).
I think the government needs to take this a lot more seriously if we’re in pre war times. Such as preparations I.E start upgrading or building Air raid shelters for the Uk citizens, stocking up all pharmacies with medication incase the worse was to actually happen Nuke wise, there’s already giving iodiene out in some countries to their citizens and proving citizens with basic knowledge on what to do is the worse should happen and giving out off grid emergency supplies. It’s better to be prepared than not
The Sun, You're amazing! Let's be friends and hang out!
The new article of the law, when the state of war worsens all around Europe and England, the investment of money in the army and defense automatically increases, without delay, the situation is very serious. We have very few weapons, the worst thing is because the enemy is also aware of this.
Spending on Defence WAS a message of strength. Nowadays, it has become like drawing bigger targets.
How can England even consider fielding a army leaving women children and the aged at the mercy of radical islam at home.
National service is way to go
It’s funny people still believe mainstream media, 4% makes up Islam the women and children alone would outnumber them, overpowering them by 10s of millions 👍👍👍
Who the hell would fight for this country? Fighting for who? People that hate us. F. O.
@@edwardvalivonis23 So you'd conscript a 5th column. Read history especially why the Austro/ Hungarians withdrew from WWI
all part of the plan. interesting how conspiracy theory always becomes fact..
No to much corruption, at the top
'Hollowed out'; what the hell do we spend £50B a year on then?!!! The waste in the MOD must be epic....
Private sector, triple billing and nice dividends for the donors. They thought it could work forever because the USSR collapsed and war was a thing of the past. Wait for the blame game to start.
So, when all these wars are bunch together, would the world not have hit the Midnight? Somebody should answer this question.
They need to remaster world at war 😮😮
Somewhat concerned that our expert here has got the in service dates completely wrong for the type 26 and type 31 frigates. First type 26 is being fitted out now for an in service date of 2028... and the first type 31 should be in a similar time frame. His dates are way out.
Still too far in the future when we could potentially go to war before 2028
🔥This is fine.🔥
probably training for the "probable" conflict , so like in russia .... huge parades are a bit tricky and easy to sabotage or strike ?
so rather have them on their toes then in parade mood !
We have not got a enough Royal Fleet Auxiliary ships and man power to fuel and supplies for the navy
A Europa, como um todo está condenando seu futuro reagindo tão covardemente frente à Rússia.
To illustrate the issues we have in the UK in defence - with a Regular Army that is at it's smallest, probably for ever, much is made of the 30,000 plus numbers within the Reserve . However despite politicians regularly citing these figures as an indication of the true strength of the British Army our Army Reserve units are allowed only 28 days training per man per year - barely adequate to cover their mandatory training and totally insufficient to provide properly trained personnel and units that could deliver during any major conflict (let alone providing any motivation for retention of the volunteers!). Indeed some units had to suspend training at the end of the last financial year under threat of losing some of this year's training budget , This is a scandal of mismagement of the Reserve by MOD and the chain of command and the shame of it is that in reality an increased training budget to provide (many) more days is a cheap fix - especially in comparison to anything else in the defence budget. Perhaps the Sun could investigate this !
Its the same in Australia
Between 2010 and 2015, the Conservatives cut the Army from 102,000 trade-trained personnel to 82,000.
As of 1 January 2021, the trade-trained strength of the army is 76,300. This is seven per cent below the target set in the 2015 Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR) of 82,000 personnel. The army has not met this target since the middle of the last decade.
The Royal Navy/Royal Marines and the RAF are also below their 2020 targets. It also shows that the armed forces as a whole is six per cent below the trained/trade-trained target of 144,000 by 2020.
Source: House of the Commons Library - UK Army to be reduced to 72,500
Published Tuesday, 23 March, 2021
They wanted four aircraft to do a flypast at the forthcoming 80 th D Day Commemoration they could only find one. Shapps is having to scrabble around to find the others. Probably end up going to get them from museums.
@@DavidSmith-ze2wi It is not a flypast. It is a parachute drop to celebrate the 80th anniversary of D-Day.
The Parachute Regiment had expected to honour its wartime heroes by sending over 450 men in four planes.
A Parachute Regiment source, said: 'While we don't put on a big show every year, the 80th anniversary is being seen as special as it's probably the last milestone for surviving veterans.'
He said that the regiment wanted four of the RAF's A400M to be provided to allow about 450 paratroopers to take part. But to the Paras' anger, only one aircraft - which can accommodate 116 Paras - was made available.
In contrast, America is expected to send at least six C-130s, with Poland and Canada also understood to be supplying planes for paracute drops.
Source: Daily Mail - Grant Shapps vows he WILL find more planes for mass parachute drop to mark 80th anniversary of D-Day landings after fury that defence cuts had left just ONE available
By JAMES TAPSFIELD, POLITICAL EDITOR FOR MAILONLINE and BRENDAN CARLIN
PUBLISHED: 19 May 2024 | UPDATED: 20 May 2024
Its easy country needs to cut in other areas to fund all 3 arms of defence
Cut money to teenagers having kids with no job or proper relationship and tell the bank we own to f off with the interest they charge for national benefits.
@@nick000002 yip id agree with that but theres stuff in health to that could be cut to
Tax the rich. Without the commonwealth their fortune dwindles. They aren't going to put skin in the game so they need to put their wallet in.
Cut more from NHS and pensions? Perhaps education ?
@@Mozart69938 never cut from education thats the driving force of a country
Should be 3% GDP immediately. Urgent reviews are needed in investigating the amount of money that gets wasted. 2nd largest defence budget in NATO and 6th largest in the world with nothing to show for it. Where is the money going?
Yes thats what I'm wondering. Is it deliberate, dose I go to the usa or do we not spend that much
WAKE UP BRITAIN
One word “nope”
How could the wars been prevented
when russia and china do not see anything as agression and stop their land stealing or "re-drawing" their borders to their own benefit ..... in the meantime south america and africa is pretty silent towards what happens , except in the UN !
only a few new leaders see the problem when a modern "super"power lends you aid thru infrastructure "improvement" with some "benefits" towards the autocrats !
You are quite ignorant really, on African matters!
by being strong
@@greenwave819 thats easy to say ...... But how strong? Nuclear threat strong , inhalation strong , pre-emptive strike strong , or denying any benefits towards agressor strong ?
All of the above@@jeroenberkenbosch7072
I think after the general election's Labour win, fears of conscription for all 18 to 23 year U.K citizens may be necessary, first in line likely the 6 months + unemployed. Our armed forces will need reinforcements in case we are required to be ready for the possible eventuality. Otherwise
'Defence' today is not really about defending the United Kingdom's seas, air space or a land army that can repel an invasion. Indeed, for most Western allied nations, isn't it really about offense and the protection of ecconmic and corperate long and short term interests? Continual NATO expansion and overt and covert actions against Russia (including a possible 2014 US lead coup in Ukraine) has more or less guarunteed that we are now fighting a proxy war with Russia and thus have enteted into a new Cold War era despite dire inequality and rising levels of poverty at home. War is indeed a racket! (Gen Smedley Butler!)
Putting Grant schapps in charge of defence is criminal
I hate how this ‘expert’ says that this was unpredictable. The outcome has been highly predictable since the UK got involved in Russia’s ‘special operation’. We should have been focusing on defence then
Boris talked Ukraine into it and then did nothing. And then buggered off.
Directed by Sun Peckinpah
😍👍🏅
I'll save you the watch. They are not ready.
If we keep on prodding others we have to except that one day they are going to prod us back.
Peace is where it's at 👍
Sack eem!
The defence is on its knees.
Sounds a bit naughty
😢😢😢
We need to stop opening our mouths and stop causing trouble does our Britain
Focus on home defense and not ships in the West Indies ?
Them ships are big sitting ducks wouldnt wanna be like my late father who was in British royal navy during war days and inc way with British away on the Russian convoys ..But they are sitting ducks are ships..Should also have much more updated jets for in the skies above Britain as seems hardly have anything and no use depending on Usa or any other country .
The Sun's owner in 2005 was trying to buy a Russian TV station. Keen to get into what was even then an Authoritarian state, to make a profit out of fascism.
It might amaze UK people to.know that Saudi Arabia has a bigger Air Force then they do. With newer and modern jets. Well you get what you vote for.
As an American, I ask, what does that mean for y'all? Here the conservatives live for defense spending. If your conservatives won't do it who will?
I Don't belive we spend the amount we say we do, defo gets offshored to acounts
well we cant do anything so just keep living until we cant 😁
This is a very dangerous game they are playing allowing Ukraine to strike in russia is going to end in tears
Why Always Some One Else's "Body Count" that Awakes the WORLD ??
What's the point of defending the country when we aren't aloud to be patriotic
Dont kill are young sunkak KEEP THEM OUT OF ARE FORCES
Right so let's make peace then
On who's terms? Ours or Putins/Xi?
It’s too late for that now. Plus our governments on each sides ego is too great!
Cold war never ended 😢
No but it chilled out a lot but with America muscling into Ukraine it's bound to warm things up. The head of Britain's armed services said in the last year for NATO and the US to move into Eastern Europe would worry the Russians but going into the Ukraine was poking the bear with a stick. That war has being going nowhere for over a year its time to negotiate. I don't think Putin's a good guy but things could get out of hand if they try and break the stalemate.
@@freebeerfordworkers Hey you might not have heard, it is Russia that is muscling into Ukraine
@@freebeerfordworkers i think it’s a business. But whatever it is, this ongoing war has to be stop.
@@freebeerfordworkerscountries can't muscle-in in a free market. Russia doesn't want to compete economically.
@@MehediHasan-wx3xjwhich one? There are centuries old powder kegs all around the world.
We have no chance anymore we did have a strong military now its weak and broken
Where’s the damn money going? JFC
Into the “Plan”
Russia can't defend themselves either 😂
They are willing to expend any number of lives to do whatever they want... The West however is not.
Who's attacking them? Other than some nuisance strikes from the Ukes...
Russia had a buffer zone with Ukraine and now, look at Putin…. On the other hand Putin was alsways afraid of NATO, that is what he said, but where are all the defences, not there, his fear was only played and even today millions fall for this bs…
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 Look like NATO is definitely thinking about it and when Germany rearm Arms god help Russia ,Japan's doing it now !
@@goot-if4km different times, it's not 1940 anymore the problem today is dictator Putin!
The Tories have completely failed to think about long term issues. Unfortunately it stretches belief that Labour will be be any better, almost certainly worse.
Both parties are complete mediocrities, and that is a charitable way to put it.
That is my question. In the US the conservatives typically are pro military spending. What happened in the Uk? Too many kick backs?
Why do you think the billionaires are all building bunkers?
Who?
@@jevgenijs39 Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey, Richard Branson, Larry Page, Peter Thiel, Kim Kardashian, Tom Cruise, Taylor Swift, Tom Brady, Shaquille O'neal, to name a few.
Yeah the millionaires are in the Uk too. And those at the top I.e the government and royals will be safe while us Uk citizens will be dust
Elon Musk will be off to Mars
The fact we have been spending less and less on military we should want to bump it up to at least 4% instead of 2.5% to get the army re established surely 2.5% is still far too low that was recommended years ago and we would have countless amounts of ammo and defence's so surely doubling that number will catch us up eventually.
Oh wait no windfall taxes very intuitive government we have. 20 trillion lost to brexit meanwhile tories are paying their bankers mates and company they have shares in.
Meanwhile Infrastructure suffers along with public sectors.
The uk government only has short term plans that bite the taxpayer 3x as badly as the previous fiscal policies.
The fact they don’t recognise the genocide that’s on going and keep supplying weapons shows how single minded and delinquent this government and labour our next tragic government will be. That said I would not trust reform or any other party either.
We spent all the money on woke projects.
Like healthcare? Spend your money on killing machine to feel safe. The killing machine CEOs thank you.
YOU did what? Omg, i don‘t care if you are woke or not, i am tolerant and we have bigger problems than your woke-phobia. Part of Putins system?
Such as?
@@AndyM_323YYYThe alphabet people for starters
@@EdwardThatch-ee7yx Is that the LGBT community? So what was the project and how much was spent?
The Vietnam war
Russia Afghanistan war
Falklands war
Iran Iraq war
Israeli 6 day war
Nigerian civil war
Yugoaslavia.
Indonesia Malaysia conflict
Sino Indian war
Indo Pakistan war
Loads of terrorist attacks all over the world.
Load of plane hijackings.
Lots of civil wars.
Think we have had it easy for a long time and forgotten the fairly recent past.
It's not as bad and that's a fact.
And not one in England
The sun man 😂😂😂😂😂
Jesús foretold the end of this world. Its the quesitos of time. He made it clear, the period is now, excepto the hourg
"The world at war" haven't you guys seen the "the day today war!" sketch?? that's how this looks.
Just makes one weep really. Two carriers that we cant man and cannot provide anywhere near the planes to use. Ohh and they havent even got catapults so they cannot launch anyone other planes but the F45!!!! Pointless floating football pitches. Oh and the C130 being retired years ahead of its fatigue life is beyond sad.
Lack of thought sums up are government
When Russia strikes we will know nothing about it anyway, we will not know we are dead - perhaps for a second we will realize that the insurance we paid out for a future cremation had been a waste of money LOL.The absolute hell on Earth will be for the survivors in their deteriorating bunkers going crazy with each other.
Sure, let's just pretend that NATO has no air defense, and won't shoot down 99% of those rusty soviet nukes. Then what will ruzzia do? they will have to bend over and become 2nd rate citizens with no rights for the remainder of their miserable existence, all because they trusted a clown named pootin. LOL.
One of those Hercules planes flew a few meters off the road in front of me once. Do they have a thing that if the pilot dies an auto land type of system activates so it doesn’t crash.
no
Sadly britian is in the same state as it was before ww2
How can a government that can't even arrange the timely repair of potholes on our roads, manage anything as complex as our combined armed services? 🤔 We are doomed and this will not get any better under a Labour government. 🙁
They’ll probably say the potholes are tank traps and foxholes, all part of their forward planning
Peace dividend turning into se urity mortgage - 2 sides to the same flipcoin