I bought it when it first came out and made extensive use of it, since I didn't have the financial means to buy a lot of gear. I'm still using it, but mainly on the monitor. It might be not as fancy as other effect processors - but I never thought of it as a bad piece of gear.
Yeah and the cassette 4 track was considered to be a pile of rubbish as well, back when higher quality digital recorders or DAW's started to beome popular and even though I still record 95% of my music digitally, you guys are the reason I wanted to go back in time, purchasing some old cassette portastudios just to be able to create something really different from what I usually do and since I sorta started out with one of those 4 track machines, I thought: "hmmm.... wouldn't it be interesting doing a project on one of those?" I'm working on such a thing right now! :D Hint: inspiration: "Nebraska (of course) your work and some other influences." It's gonna be great! I'm also gonna mix it OOTB with some of my outboard gear I usually use only on the way in (to my DAW) and of course I'm gonna make a backup of the whole (unmixed) project in Pro Tools, but.... long story short: back in the day, people called Springsteen crazy, putting out an album that's just him playing the guitar/singing which's recorded onto a cassette, mixed down onto a cassette; etc and I recently listened to it again and it's amazing! "How would it have sounded if Bruce had a laptop beside his bed with Pro Tools, Cubase or whatever and recorded that album using that system..... who knows, but the fact remains Nebraska's something special and it does have a certain vibe to it. I'm glad I finally have a proper working 424 now and a simple Fostex X-12 to do whatever I want with. Thanks again for inspiring me! :D Reason for this comment: once someone makes something great with one of these units, whether it's a recorder or a digital reverb/delay... whatever... all of a sudden, everyone wants it (sometimes for rediculous prizes) to discover they're NOT Springsteen nor Dream Machine or whoever, haha.
Josh Homme of QOTSA uses a Peavy Decade amp (just for a few songs it’s not by any means his main amp and I believe it’s only used on a few newer songs)
Exactly! ie: the Peavy Decade practice amp.. Literally couldn't give 'em away before, but since it came to light recently that Josh Homme used one when recording Songs For The Deaf, now everybody and their brother is either wanting one, or trying to sell them for _hundreds_ of dollars! 😅
If Ms Wakeman would stop tinkling the ivories occasionally (so we can hear the reverb trails) and the demo was in stereo (like the Peavey is), we might actually get to hear the damned thing, lol. This is straight out of Monty Python. Subscribed!
That brown one with the built in limiters? I used to own one. Sounds pretty good, but noisy, as always. Not great for dub reggae, not enough "boing". I have heard it used on some music on the Truth and Soul label (coincidentally recorded on a Tascam 388) and it sounded great.
Here is the track they did with a 388 and that Fostex reverb. Pretty great tune, and the verb has that nice shimmer to it. ua-cam.com/video/pCA0GxFrbcI/v-deo.html
@@christopherJSmokeandMirrors Wow that track sounds legit amazing! Thanks for sharing. The unit I have on the line is a black unit with orange and yellow knobs. Or maybe it just looks black in the text message pics? At any rate, this track has persuaded me to give it a try.
@@robertsyrett1992 The flip side of the record was a song called Stand Tall. Also another amazing 388 recorded tune that uses that reverb. Yeah that guy looks black but i think its a dark brown, maybe they used two different shades, like they did with the Tapco spring reverbs. It has optional rack ears, and yeah orange and yellow knobs. To be honest, I think the secret to making reverbs sound great is delaying them for just a few milliseconds to give "space". Joe Meeks records from the 60s taught me that trick. Also, eq the reverb itself. At Abbey Road in the 60s they eq the reverb to take off the top end and bottom end, leaving just the mid range. Also, if you can use a DBX style compressor on the reverb itself, you can set it to bring up the tails of the reverb so they have more length and detail. All of these tricks can make even the worst reverb sound very cool and very useable. This is just me speaking from my experiments though, everyone may find their own path.
I dig that reverse sound! I’m fan of obscure reverbs and have covered a few on my channel if you’re curious 😊, maybe a collab in the future would be nice? Ok, thanks!
Starting to understand why the last album sounds so muddy, I have the pedal version of this and its pretty good overall but never actually used because Ive also got a Flint, an MXR M300 and a Surfy Bear compact
I bought it when it first came out and made extensive use of it, since I didn't have the financial means to buy a lot of gear. I'm still using it, but mainly on the monitor. It might be not as fancy as other effect processors - but I never thought of it as a bad piece of gear.
Yeah and the cassette 4 track was considered to be a pile of rubbish as well, back when higher quality digital recorders or DAW's started to beome popular and even though I still record 95% of my music digitally, you guys are the reason I wanted to go back in time, purchasing some old cassette portastudios just to be able to create something really different from what I usually do and since I sorta started out with one of those 4 track machines, I thought: "hmmm.... wouldn't it be interesting doing a project on one of those?" I'm working on such a thing right now! :D Hint: inspiration: "Nebraska (of course) your work and some other influences." It's gonna be great! I'm also gonna mix it OOTB with some of my outboard gear I usually use only on the way in (to my DAW) and of course I'm gonna make a backup of the whole (unmixed) project in Pro Tools, but.... long story short: back in the day, people called Springsteen crazy, putting out an album that's just him playing the guitar/singing which's recorded onto a cassette, mixed down onto a cassette; etc and I recently listened to it again and it's amazing! "How would it have sounded if Bruce had a laptop beside his bed with Pro Tools, Cubase or whatever and recorded that album using that system..... who knows, but the fact remains Nebraska's something special and it does have a certain vibe to it. I'm glad I finally have a proper working 424 now and a simple Fostex X-12 to do whatever I want with. Thanks again for inspiring me! :D Reason for this comment: once someone makes something great with one of these units, whether it's a recorder or a digital reverb/delay... whatever... all of a sudden, everyone wants it (sometimes for rediculous prizes) to discover they're NOT Springsteen nor Dream Machine or whoever, haha.
Excited to hear it
Growing up my folks bought me mostly Peavey products. Honestly, I have never had one single problem with anything Peavey. Thanks for the video!
Josh Homme of QOTSA uses a Peavy Decade amp (just for a few songs it’s not by any means his main amp and I believe it’s only used on a few newer songs)
People hate something "inexpensive" until they see someone else get good results with it, then it becomes 5 times more expensive on Reverb.
Exactly! ie: the Peavy Decade practice amp.. Literally couldn't give 'em away before, but since it came to light recently that Josh Homme used one when recording Songs For The Deaf, now everybody and their brother is either wanting one, or trying to sell them for _hundreds_ of dollars! 😅
Call this unit the peavey bad monkey reverb and it’ll go up in price lol
This is so true
If you can find a useful setting that helps you bring forth what your hear in your head, then it is a good unit.
I see L/R outputs on the back of the unit, so I'm guessing the reverb is stereo. Is there a reason why the audio demos in this video are in mono?
Good eye! It can do stereo but I was just being lazy
If Ms Wakeman would stop tinkling the ivories occasionally (so we can hear the reverb trails) and the demo was in stereo (like the Peavey is), we might actually get to hear the damned thing, lol. This is straight out of Monty Python. Subscribed!
The Mississippi swamp boing is delicious.
But the "Fuzz City" angled rack is the wall flower of dreams.
Ampex or Ampsex?..Only time will tell.
How do you feel about Fostex spring reverb?
That brown one with the built in limiters? I used to own one. Sounds pretty good, but noisy, as always. Not great for dub reggae, not enough "boing". I have heard it used on some music on the Truth and Soul label (coincidentally recorded on a Tascam 388) and it sounded great.
Here is the track they did with a 388 and that Fostex reverb. Pretty great tune, and the verb has that nice shimmer to it.
ua-cam.com/video/pCA0GxFrbcI/v-deo.html
@@christopherJSmokeandMirrors Wow that track sounds legit amazing! Thanks for sharing. The unit I have on the line is a black unit with orange and yellow knobs. Or maybe it just looks black in the text message pics? At any rate, this track has persuaded me to give it a try.
@@robertsyrett1992 The flip side of the record was a song called Stand Tall. Also another amazing 388 recorded tune that uses that reverb. Yeah that guy looks black but i think its a dark brown, maybe they used two different shades, like they did with the Tapco spring reverbs. It has optional rack ears, and yeah orange and yellow knobs.
To be honest, I think the secret to making reverbs sound great is delaying them for just a few milliseconds to give "space". Joe Meeks records from the 60s taught me that trick. Also, eq the reverb itself. At Abbey Road in the 60s they eq the reverb to take off the top end and bottom end, leaving just the mid range. Also, if you can use a DBX style compressor on the reverb itself, you can set it to bring up the tails of the reverb so they have more length and detail. All of these tricks can make even the worst reverb sound very cool and very useable. This is just me speaking from my experiments though, everyone may find their own path.
Get a Surfy Bear unit and youre done!!!!!!!
I would crank up that reverb so much it would sound like a Phil Collins song
featuring the vocoder .
I dig that reverse sound! I’m fan of obscure reverbs and have covered a few on my channel if you’re curious 😊, maybe a collab in the future would be nice? Ok, thanks!
Love mine!
Plenty of good sounds there.
If it were the 80s, and all I knew was spring reverb; this would make lot's of sense to design
I don't think there is any piece of gear that is worthless. If it affects an audio signal, it can be "used"
Perfectly stated.
Bank-2 A-F, and te reverse reverbs at the end are worth the ten bucks you'll pay for this.
my thoughts exactly!
Some should a/b this with some strymon pedal so we raise the price… 😂
If you ever need a really terrible Radio Shack digital reverb, I'll donate it to the Fuzz City cause.😇
Starting to understand why the last album sounds so muddy, I have the pedal version of this and its pretty good overall but never actually used because Ive also got a Flint, an MXR M300 and a Surfy Bear compact
LMAO
At times it almost sounds like a doubler.
it's a bit bland
Agreed