The genius behind the "Waveboy Industries" set of floppy additions to the EPS-16+ was Ensoniq's VP of DSP engineering, Bob Mauchly. I had the pleasure of meeting up with Bob at an AES conference in NY in the mid-90s, but had to wait to talk to him because he was engaged in a conversation with Wendy Carlos (engrossed is more like it -- one is never casually engaged in a conversation with Wendy Carlos). Bob was a gracious host and entertained me with insights into the development of the DSP algorithms used in the DP/4, DP/4+, and EPS-16+ for which he was responsible directly.
I wonder if Bob Mauchly is related to John Mauchly who was one of the inventors of the ENIAC computer at the University of Pennsylvania in the 1940s and went on to invent the UNIVAC and pretty much created the field of computer science and began the commercial computer industry that we know today. Both lived in that suburban Philadelphia area, where I am also from. (I was quite familiar with Ensoniq as they were practically in my backyard and once bought an SQ 2 from one of their sound designers. I still have a TS 12.) I did not know either Mr. Mauchly but my former wife actually went to high school with John Mauchly's daughter, Eva.
Holy cow this brings back many memories. I used the Mirage, then the EPS16, wanted the ASR-10 but then jumped into PC production instead. Has such a distinctive sound.
There's no better sound than sequencing ensoniq and Akai sounds into my DAW in 2024. I never grasped the use of compression on drums from the start..I'd rather do it like 1990s and dump or trigger drums from my hardware. For that Matter bass and synths sound better doing it that way. I like to either add or lower the bass on my mixer or kicks until they don't clip. And just like that I have a Fuller sound going into the DAW, that way it's less work mixing. Imo
I once borrowed a friends EPS16+ for a couple of months in the early '90s and there were some Waveboy disks in his collection, I remixed some of my existing tracks with some of his samples and remember really enjoying working with this kit, we used to exchange disks of our tracks and work on each others projects, it stopped things becoming staganant and samey
very suprized to see this video pop-up i used to use one of these exclusively till about 04 when i switched to Ableton. I still have mine packed away in a road case! very cool vid!
Amazing sounds. All these years I had no idea it was even possible to create these creative effects with this old sampler/workstation. The EPS with its limitations is quite versatile. Thumbs up!
Rez Filter can sound pretty fat if you use it as an effect on multiple elements of a track. Also the ability to resample with the effects is a great feature in the EPS-16 Plus. ua-cam.com/video/qTZZHfmXKsQ/v-deo.html
Grreat video! I had an EPS 16+ but didn't know about the Waveboy disks. The keyboard on the full unit had what I found to be a very pleasing texture/feel. Nice memories :)
This brings back memories when I used Wavestation/AD as extra FX processor during the mix. Vocoder, delays and chorus were cool as I remember... Cheers! S
Hi Espen! It's fantastic doing a video on Bill (yes, that's his true first name) Mauchly's effects. I hope you will do another video on the Voder and I recommend you use it in your music. There's nothing like it elsewhere in terms of sound and user interface. I was arguably the first one to use it on a professional album production in 1999 and I am proud of that. One of the effects you used is the frequency shifter. It sounds great with anything Try it with voices. There's also a basic FM effect disk. The resonant filter disk contains Minimoog samples as well. Thanks to the famous Ensoniq low end, these samples sound great so I used them before I could afford a Minimoog. I used all the effects and the superb transwaves. These disks will give you a lot of inspiration and fun, I promise! Thank you!
Cool video, Espen. These machines, especialy ensoniq's ones, were more than "samplers I record and play", actualy, they were musical instruments, with their own way to make sounds. My old EPSm "classic", can't handle theses FX disks but, well, If one day I find an ASR10, which can cope with that, at a fair price... (as I already have an EPS I think an ASR could be a good complement)
Your channel is interesting, I have a lot of Ensoniq stuff, including those floppies. They sound nicely, very powerful tools. Last night I plugged a guitar into the Audio-In algorithm on a Eps16+ and a second algorithm into another Eps16+, in series: sort of dirty "poor man" Dp2, much fun...
Really cool find! Even with 90s tech though, that had to be a crazy complicated machine to produce. I could see hooking something like this up to a modular synth running a sequence. Could have a sixteen-step sequence run for hours and never have two identical sounds. 👍️
I have the DP4 and I reckon it cut its way through a lot of studios, there’s some amazing FX there altogether. High range response of the verbs is really nice for hats
Anyone with an EPS/16+or ASR.... Just in case you don't know... Heres a handy tip. If you want to take a value to the middle value (Say 0 or -64+64, or the middle of the Numeric/Alphanumeric values) , just press the Up and Down Arrows buttons simultaneously.. It can sometimes help to navigate more quickly.
Great content as always Espen! Seems like a a disk for the Mirage that made it a kind of a wavetable synth. I know not the same as waveboy but similar vein as in redefining what it did. I have an EPS 16+ also I need to use once in awhile. I might have to find a copy of waveboy. Also, Bill Mauchly is the son of John Mauchly. John was one of the co developers of the ENIAC computer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC. technical.ly/person/bill-mauchly/
this is a very important sampler for street music, so like... boombap hiphop, techno, house, uk rave, breakbeat, jungle, etc. that's what I think of with this sampler, just like the early akai's... I don't think it's suited for the 80's pop sound but it can obviously do that too., EDIT: basically, if you're using it to mimic corny saxophones and slap bass, you're using the sampler wrong... stick some overdriven sub bass 808s in it and kick-you-in-the-face tekno hoover real underground shit noises, and it;s YA BOI
That's great the floppy still works on your sampler. If the floppy goes out you may not be able to find another. I have a Korg 01W-FD and the floppy stopped working. It's a 720k drive and the firmware has to match. The floppy is no longer made and finding one that will match is very difficult. Here's the shocking thing with my situation. I have all my custom sounds saved to the floppy. The Korg 01W-FD has a CR-2032 battery that has to be replaced every 5 years. If the battery is removed without jumping power to the keyboard, then all sounds are lost and the default sounds have to be loaded in, with no way to re-load the custom sounds from the floppy. For all those 01W's sitting around collecting dust, the battery will eventually go dead and any custom sounds will be gone. It's probably a good idea to leave your sampler turned off if you are not using it. That way the floppy might last longer.
Have you ever considered to buy yourself a Floppy to USB device? You could then load the patches into a software editor on your computer...and from there send the patches back (when needed) via MIDI Dump from the PC straight into the RAM memory of your 01/WFD (assuming that you already have a MIDI-Interface for your computer...or an audio-interface with MIDI Ports). This one seems to be a "720K" type: www.amazon.de/Ccylez-5-Zoll-USB-Diskettenlaufwerk-Kartenleser-Ultraflaches-Diskettenlaufwerk-default/dp/B08BG1ZTS6/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=264UUQXFCLJZF&keywords=Ccylez+3%2C5+Zoll+USB+Diskettenlaufwerk%2C+Tragbarer+Kartenleser+Ultraflaches+Externes+Diskettenleser%2C+720+KB&qid=1650718621&sprefix=ccylez+3+5+zoll+usb+diskettenlaufwerk+tragbarer+kartenleser+ultraflaches+externes+diskettenleser+720+kb%2Caps%2C102&sr=8-1
Nice video. I’m a great fan of all the Ensoniq products. Do you plan to make a video with the Fizmo (seen in the back)? This one is a killer for weird ambient atmospheres.
It's quite spectacular. It's sort of reversed vocoder, as you can't use your own vocal, it makes vocal sounds out of what you put in in terms of sounds or MIDI. I will make a video at some point. It's on the to-do list. ;-)
Espen make sure you create some backup disks as well as a few hard drive folders (give Anders a backup copy as well) if these disks are the endangered species you say they are.
The album will be out this year. A digital release and a cassette release. I've talked about this in a couple of videos lately. I will not release it on CD. The cassette release will be a limited run and everyone will be signed and numbered. I'll take preorders as soon as I have mixed and mastered the album. Will notify on my channel here. Cheers
@@EspenKraft Ok. This is digital music so a little weird you do not want to release a CD. I am 43 years old and have grown up with an audio cassette. I used a lot of cassette in my younger days. I'm not a cassette type man or analog guy anymore. I stopped using cassette a long time ago. Yes I still have tandberg TCD.310 and some other newer ones but do not use them anymore. Ok. This is digital music so a little weird you do not want to release a CD. Downloaded music for me has less value than a CD and LP. plate.
Well, this album will be neither digital nor analog. Since I both record and mix this album analog, I wanted to release it on either vinyl or cassette, but I came to the conclusion that I wanted a cassette release the most. Maybe even more nostalgia for me. The digital online release is just for the thousands of people that won't be able to get the cassette. I went through the entire recording process in a video recently. Nothing weird going on here.
@@EspenKraft Ok. Correct me if I say something wrong. This is a music type from the 80's and then people did not use data editing. You use digital instruments and have the ability to edit this on a PC. for minimal sound loss. yes we live in a time when far too many do not care about sound quality. and a time when too many people listen to music on something that is not so good. But there are those who like good sound quality But even if there is no sound quality priority or CD. release, the music you make is still good.
I use more analog machines than digital ones on this album. I don't make music based on what's trending, neither in terms of gear, nor workflow. I've talked about this many times. I make music using the synths, samplers and drum machines from the 80s, because that is what I love. I record on analog tape and transfer to digital for editing. I then mix it out analog. That's how I want to do it.
the venerable eps16+, as all ensoniq samplers, gets crazy hot after a while, so she begs for some ventilation \ rack space in between. I am sorry, i know I sound kind of picky p.i.t.a., but since you are (deservedly) very popular, then people assume that it's ok to just stack vintage racks as bricks...I am a big fan of your videos, but the EPS16+ rack is my girlfriend, I couldn't shut up, sorry... :)
That's OK. I've never put any space between modules in the rack. Been doing it since the 80s. It's only dead things, not girlfriends... Not to me at least. ;-)
I assume metal case to metal case interaction also can work like a decent cooling block similar to the metal on theprocessor of the computer meaning that the hot metal actually is a good thing?
Ai Accident - So the metal on the bodies of the rack units above and below would serve as a heat sink. Maybe so, if the surrounding units are not active and aren't generating heat themselves.
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The genius behind the "Waveboy Industries" set of floppy additions to the EPS-16+ was Ensoniq's VP of DSP engineering, Bob Mauchly. I had the pleasure of meeting up with Bob at an AES conference in NY in the mid-90s, but had to wait to talk to him because he was engaged in a conversation with Wendy Carlos (engrossed is more like it -- one is never casually engaged in a conversation with Wendy Carlos). Bob was a gracious host and entertained me with insights into the development of the DSP algorithms used in the DP/4, DP/4+, and EPS-16+ for which he was responsible directly.
What a great story! Thanks for sharing.
great tidbit here
Cool!
I wonder if Bob Mauchly is related to John Mauchly who was one of the inventors of the ENIAC computer at the University of Pennsylvania in the 1940s and went on to invent the UNIVAC and pretty much created the field of computer science and began the commercial computer industry that we know today. Both lived in that suburban Philadelphia area, where I am also from. (I was quite familiar with Ensoniq as they were practically in my backyard and once bought an SQ 2 from one of their sound designers. I still have a TS 12.) I did not know either Mr. Mauchly but my former wife actually went to high school with John Mauchly's daughter, Eva.
Holy cow this brings back many memories. I used the Mirage, then the EPS16, wanted the ASR-10 but then jumped into PC production instead. Has such a distinctive sound.
It really does have that classic sound!! I was thinking the same thing.
There's no better sound than sequencing ensoniq and Akai sounds into my DAW in 2024.
I never grasped the use of compression on drums from the start..I'd rather do it like 1990s and dump or trigger drums from my hardware. For that Matter bass and synths sound better doing it that way. I like to either add or lower the bass on my mixer or kicks until they don't clip. And just like that I have a Fuller sound going into the DAW, that way it's less work mixing. Imo
I once borrowed a friends EPS16+ for a couple of months in the early '90s and there were some Waveboy disks in his collection, I remixed some of my existing tracks with some of his samples and remember really enjoying working with this kit, we used to exchange disks of our tracks and work on each others projects, it stopped things becoming staganant and samey
very suprized to see this video pop-up i used to use one of these exclusively till about 04 when i switched to Ableton. I still have mine packed away in a road case! very cool vid!
Cheers!
Wow. I just pulled out my Ensoniq TS-10 this week to tweak it a bit.... Great machines the Ensoniqs.
Great stuff Lars! Yes going to be playing around with my TS-10 this weekend too 🙌
Amazing sounds. All these years I had no idea it was even possible to create these creative effects with this old sampler/workstation. The EPS with its limitations is quite versatile. Thumbs up!
I just want to applaud you for the tape deck shelf in the background. Mounting a rack adapter the wrong way to the wall is a fantastic idea!
Using rack adapters as shelfs is something I've been doing for years :P I have several videos with tape in focus btw.
@@EspenKraft I've never noticed this. I have several of these adapters in my basement gathering dust. Look s like they will start a 2nd life soon. :-)
I've always wondered what these WAVe BOY discs advertised in the back of old issues of the Transoniq Hacker sounded like, great video!
Thanks!
i believe they're still for sale
Rez Filter can sound pretty fat if you use it as an effect on multiple elements of a track. Also the ability to resample with the effects is a great feature in the EPS-16 Plus.
ua-cam.com/video/qTZZHfmXKsQ/v-deo.html
Grreat video! I had an EPS 16+ but didn't know about the Waveboy disks. The keyboard on the full unit had what I found to be a very pleasing texture/feel. Nice memories :)
Cheers!
i had them back in the days, used them sooooooo much
I was wondering when you were going to do a video on this thing. And this thing sounds incredible!
This brings back memories when I used Wavestation/AD as extra FX processor during the mix. Vocoder, delays and chorus were cool as I remember... Cheers! S
Cheers!
Hi Espen! It's fantastic doing a video on Bill (yes, that's his true first name) Mauchly's effects. I hope you will do another video on the Voder and I recommend you use it in your music. There's nothing like it elsewhere in terms of sound and user interface. I was arguably the first one to use it on a professional album production in 1999 and I am proud of that. One of the effects you used is the frequency shifter. It sounds great with anything
Try it with voices. There's also a basic FM effect disk. The resonant filter disk contains Minimoog samples as well. Thanks to the famous Ensoniq low end, these samples sound great so I used them before I could afford a Minimoog. I used all the effects and the superb transwaves. These disks will give you a lot of inspiration and fun, I promise! Thank you!
Cheers!
@@EspenKraft Yes, if you have the Voder disk, please do a video..!
Wow. The ESP16+ Sounds great! Nice work.
Thanks!
Cool and impressive sampler. Super sounds! Now I'm seriously missing out on my old keyboards. Thanks for uploading another great video. 👍👍
I had the Waveboy disks BITD and I can verify they were an excellent addition to the EPS-16+.
Cool video, Espen.
These machines, especialy ensoniq's ones, were more than "samplers I record and play", actualy, they were musical instruments, with their own way to make sounds.
My old EPSm "classic", can't handle theses FX disks but, well, If one day I find an ASR10, which can cope with that, at a fair price...
(as I already have an EPS I think an ASR could be a good complement)
Thanks man!
Your channel is interesting, I have a lot of Ensoniq stuff, including those floppies. They sound nicely, very powerful tools. Last night I plugged a guitar into the Audio-In algorithm on a Eps16+ and a second algorithm into another Eps16+, in series: sort of dirty "poor man" Dp2, much fun...
Cool! I love upgrading my classic gear with modern stuff. Just picked up the Hypersynth cards for my DX, would make a great review from you!
Cheers!
Really cool find! Even with 90s tech though, that had to be a crazy complicated machine to produce. I could see hooking something like this up to a modular synth running a sequence. Could have a sixteen-step sequence run for hours and never have two identical sounds. 👍️
I have the DP4 and I reckon it cut its way through a lot of studios, there’s some amazing FX there altogether. High range response of the verbs is really nice for hats
Love Ensoniq! Got the DP4 and EPSr
I wonder what this would sound like to use as an impulse for a convolution reverb/ gorgeous sounds, as always!
Thanks!
I really like that idea. I just saw that you could load up any audio as an IR. Makes me want to go exploring!!
Nice video and performance. 👍👍👍 Have a great day. 😊 Greetings. 😎
Anyone with an EPS/16+or ASR.... Just in case you don't know... Heres a handy tip.
If you want to take a value to the middle value (Say 0 or -64+64, or the middle of the Numeric/Alphanumeric values) , just press the Up and Down Arrows buttons simultaneously.. It can sometimes help to navigate more quickly.
Good tip
Great content as always Espen!
Seems like a a disk for the Mirage that made it a kind of a wavetable synth. I know not the same as waveboy but similar vein as in redefining what it did. I have an EPS 16+ also I need to use once in awhile. I might have to find a copy of waveboy.
Also, Bill Mauchly is the son of John Mauchly. John was one of the co developers of the ENIAC computer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC. technical.ly/person/bill-mauchly/
Thanks!
You're referring to Mirage SoundProcess OS (3rd party).
Wow, very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
I love ensoniq keyboards I was hoping you would use sounds from an sd1 or vfx for some of your 80’s music too
“THE LONGEST SAMPLED SUMMER”
Thanks for the video Espen.
this is a very important sampler for street music, so like... boombap hiphop, techno, house, uk rave, breakbeat, jungle, etc.
that's what I think of with this sampler, just like the early akai's... I don't think it's suited for the 80's pop sound but it can obviously do that too.,
EDIT: basically, if you're using it to mimic corny saxophones and slap bass, you're using the sampler wrong... stick some overdriven sub bass 808s in it and kick-you-in-the-face tekno hoover real underground shit noises, and it;s YA BOI
There's no such thing as using any instrument wrong if you use it to fulfill a musical vision. ;-)
That's great the floppy still works on your sampler. If the floppy goes out you may not be able to find another. I have a Korg 01W-FD and the floppy stopped working. It's a 720k drive and the firmware has to match. The floppy is no longer made and finding one that will match is very difficult. Here's the shocking thing with my situation. I have all my custom sounds saved to the floppy. The Korg 01W-FD has a CR-2032 battery that has to be replaced every 5 years. If the battery is removed without jumping power to the keyboard, then all sounds are lost and the default sounds have to be loaded in, with no way to re-load the custom sounds from the floppy. For all those 01W's sitting around collecting dust, the battery will eventually go dead and any custom sounds will be gone. It's probably a good idea to leave your sampler turned off if you are not using it. That way the floppy might last longer.
Have you ever considered to buy yourself a Floppy to USB device? You could then load the patches into a software editor on your computer...and from there send the patches back (when needed) via MIDI Dump from the PC straight into the RAM memory of your 01/WFD (assuming that you already have a MIDI-Interface for your computer...or an audio-interface with MIDI Ports). This one seems to be a "720K" type: www.amazon.de/Ccylez-5-Zoll-USB-Diskettenlaufwerk-Kartenleser-Ultraflaches-Diskettenlaufwerk-default/dp/B08BG1ZTS6/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=264UUQXFCLJZF&keywords=Ccylez+3%2C5+Zoll+USB+Diskettenlaufwerk%2C+Tragbarer+Kartenleser+Ultraflaches+Externes+Diskettenleser%2C+720+KB&qid=1650718621&sprefix=ccylez+3+5+zoll+usb+diskettenlaufwerk+tragbarer+kartenleser+ultraflaches+externes+diskettenleser+720+kb%2Caps%2C102&sr=8-1
Can you explain me how to load the wave boy effect? If got an floppy emulator, and the wave boy on it but don't know how to load it.
How to load effects into the EPS16+ is described very clearly in the manual. Section 11-12 describes how to load effects.
1:04 "See I have originals of all the ST-01 instrument discs for soundtracker!" :)
Cool 😎🎧 video 📹 as always man.
Cheers!
Am I able to transfer these discs onto a zip disc and use them through the scsi?
I have no idea.
Could EPS 16+ or ASR-10 (with the Waveboy here) efx be routed to use externally dude 😎 thanx EK
My esq1 is on the blink anyone know who could fix it in the u.k?
I have an eps 16+ i was given but its a keyboard version
Are the MR61/76 effects the same as DP/4? They are named the same
No idea.
Nice video. I’m a great fan of all the Ensoniq products. Do you plan to make a video with the Fizmo (seen in the back)? This one is a killer for weird ambient atmospheres.
I did my Fizmo video last year. ;-) It's on my channel.
I was always intrigued about the waveboy Voder disk -- do you have that?
Yes, I have that too.
@@EspenKraft Is it any good? Will it feature in a future video? There are no examples of it online!
It's quite spectacular. It's sort of reversed vocoder, as you can't use your own vocal, it makes vocal sounds out of what you put in in terms of sounds or MIDI. I will make a video at some point. It's on the to-do list. ;-)
@@EspenKraft Thanks!
Espen make sure you create some backup disks as well as a few hard drive folders (give Anders a backup copy as well) if these disks are the endangered species you say they are.
I have image file copies of all my most important floppies.
Hello. You said you'll be releasing an album soon. when it comes out? will you release a CD. ? signed?
The album will be out this year. A digital release and a cassette release. I've talked about this in a couple of videos lately. I will not release it on CD. The cassette release will be a limited run and everyone will be signed and numbered. I'll take preorders as soon as I have mixed and mastered the album. Will notify on my channel here. Cheers
@@EspenKraft Ok. This is digital music so a little weird you do not want to release a CD.
I am 43 years old and have grown up with an audio cassette. I used a lot of cassette in my younger days. I'm not a cassette type man or analog guy anymore. I stopped using cassette a long time ago. Yes I still have tandberg TCD.310 and some other newer ones but do not use them anymore.
Ok. This is digital music so a little weird you do not want to release a CD.
Downloaded music for me has less value than a CD and LP. plate.
Well, this album will be neither digital nor analog. Since I both record and mix this album analog, I wanted to release it on either vinyl or cassette, but I came to the conclusion that I wanted a cassette release the most. Maybe even more nostalgia for me. The digital online release is just for the thousands of people that won't be able to get the cassette.
I went through the entire recording process in a video recently. Nothing weird going on here.
@@EspenKraft Ok. Correct me if I say something wrong.
This is a music type from the 80's and then people did not use data editing.
You use digital instruments and have the ability to edit this on a PC. for minimal sound loss.
yes we live in a time when far too many do not care about sound quality. and a time when too many people listen to music on something that is not so good.
But there are those who like good sound quality
But even if there is no sound quality priority or CD. release, the music you make is still good.
I use more analog machines than digital ones on this album. I don't make music based on what's trending, neither in terms of gear, nor workflow. I've talked about this many times. I make music using the synths, samplers and drum machines from the 80s, because that is what I love. I record on analog tape and transfer to digital for editing. I then mix it out analog. That's how I want to do it.
WTF had no idea this existed!
Reminds me of Mission impossible.
Is your album coming out on wax?
I've talked about this in a couple of videos recently. It will be released on cassette as the only physical medium.
@@EspenKraft Nice, I'll purchase one when you release it if it is a reasonable price.
I'll be taking pre-orders when it's mixed. That's the only way you can buy one.
@@EspenKraft You will make a video announcing this I imagine? Is it with vocals as well?
@@noahc.6901 I did a video announcing this. Here:
ua-cam.com/video/eGcEW2R3QMo/v-deo.html
This is not a "pop" album and it will have no vocals.
Somewhere in the world, Tom Shear just looked up.
the venerable eps16+, as all ensoniq samplers, gets crazy hot after a while, so she begs for some ventilation \ rack space in between.
I am sorry, i know I sound kind of picky p.i.t.a., but since you are (deservedly) very popular, then people assume that it's ok to just stack vintage racks as bricks...I am a big fan of your videos, but the EPS16+ rack is my girlfriend, I couldn't shut up, sorry... :)
That's OK. I've never put any space between modules in the rack. Been doing it since the 80s. It's only dead things, not girlfriends... Not to me at least. ;-)
I assume metal case to metal case interaction also can work like a decent cooling block similar to the metal on theprocessor of the computer meaning that the hot metal actually is a good thing?
Ai Accident - So the metal on the bodies of the rack units above and below would serve as a heat sink. Maybe so, if the surrounding units are not active and aren't generating heat themselves.
@@anonymoushuman8344 yepp so maybe to avoid to stack a triplicate of this very unit ;)
Ai Accident - But if I had three of them I might want to run all three at once. :)
Nothing sounds like a EPS16+
I would say thank you but now I’m considering spendin 350$ on a bunch of old floppy’s 🤦🏻♀😂