I bought an L4060 9 years ago from Messicks, and it's been an awesome machine. My primary specs of importance were frame size and weight for snow plowing. In almost all hp specific applications I can adjust tractor operation to suit, but with traction and weight.... You either have it or you don't.
We love our Grand L 3560 LE. We are in that need for this size of tractor for our family mini ranch with goats. This traçtor can handle the small to medium size round bales with proper ballast. I watched enough videos to learn that: Rim Guard in the tires, a 400 pound implement in the back along with a custom suit case weight rack welded to it that can hold our 12 suit case weights of just over 550 pounds. We also had a dealer that only orders these tractors with the more robust loader. Another advantage with that loader is that you can get the hydraulic SSQA option, which is so convenient. Especially good option as you get older. LOL Neil probably ought to do a video on it as well as some after-market options that you can have for non Grand L tractors. We also added the 3rd function and the 3 rear remotes.
On our farm I needed loader capacity to lift, stack, and carry heavy round bales. I couldn't afford a grand L tractor. So I went with an L4701 (now it is a L4702). It has the lift capacity we needed for the price we could afford. It is a great tractor. It is also a pretty large tractor.
Bought a used L4740 for my horse farm and absolutely love it. Tons of power for brush hogging, running a PTO chipper and plenty of weight/size for moving round bales or dragging the box blade around the driveway.
I have the L3902 and treat it as the tool it is. This tractor can do some work! Yea I wish it had a better seat and tilt wheel but other than that it has performed every task I've asked from it.
Choosing to go with the L4060LE over with L3902 was a great decision. I love the machine. I didn’t think I would care much for the HST+ transmission but boy was I wrong! The HDS is so useful on my hilly property. My tractor is always in Low gear where I live but being able to shift down to Low/Low while approaching a drop without having to stop to change gears is great! The extra weight of the larger machine helps me bang out the gravel road to my private neighborhood in no time. I can resurface the whole road in an hour or two with my land plane versus all day with my neighbors 1025R. I can’t wait to start clearing out some of my land!
At the time I bought, the Grand L 3560 with the 805 loader was only about $3k more than the 3901. I didn't even consider the 3560, because I assumed it was way out of my price range. Little did I know... Hoping to upgrade to a 3560 when the time is right. The bigger size of the 3560 might make it tough to do what I do and fit where I need to fit, but the creature comforts, quieter HST and increased lift capacity front and back will be well worth it.
Be wary clearing land with these tractors. They are not designed to work in rough conditions, they are designed to work on fairly clear fields. A stick thrown up by a tyre could puncture a filter or snap a line and ruin your day. Take it easy and slow, be aware as much as possible of what is going on. I have a larger MX5200 tractor and it is vulnerable to sticks and rocks.
@ I will keep that in mind. Most of the heavy duty clearing I have to do is in the corners of the lot that my home is on. I’ll be yanking small trees and moving the bigger ones that I cut down with my grapple. So the tractor will be in areas that are already cleared. We do have a couple of lots that are extremely overgrown and there is a bunch of trash on them including a stripped mobile home on one. Those ones are more concerning. I’m planning on using my hand brush cutter to do the first walkthrough and cut with those lots so I can remove or mark out objects that would be hazardous to the tractor.
Nice comparison Neil. If a person is unsure about what to get for the tasks they need to do get with the salesperson that is well versed in the different tractor models to explain the differences between each model and how it compares with the tasks that you need it to do. Thanks Neil
I didn’t have seat envy for my L3301 until I watched this video and saw the LX seat. Dang! Now my rear is going to hurt every time I use it! Thanks, Neil!
Just set a customer up with an LX3520 and is the perfect match for what they are looking to do. That machine is so smooth. With rear ballast the 3520 and 4020 are beasts on that chassis. I still really like the 3902 but again it just depends exactly what the customer is looking for. 3902 is a great tractor
With the onset of more hydraulic powered implements, the hydraulic gpm is becoming a more important spec. I hope the manufacturers are looking at this.
@MessicksEquip agreed, yes there are pto driven hydraulic power pacs for the 3pt but it would be nice to have something that is built into the tractor. A "high flow" tractor that would be par with a standard flow skiddy/CTL. Kubota definitely has the know how to do it and do it the right way , we just need them to look at the industry shift that's happening
@ Yup. For the vast majority of people with low gpm tractors, a power pac plus the cost of a hydraulic driven implement is going to be cost prohibitive, unless your doing a commercial business. The need for higher gpm pumps already built into smaller tractors is going to become a race if the trend continues with more hydro powered equipment.
Since the standard L models do not have a mid PTO, how do you power a snow blower on the front of the tractor? Do you need a shaft going all the way to the rear PTO?
It’s annoying how relatively expensive the smaller compact tractors are. A 3560 is the same price (essentially) as a 4020. Ouch, if you’re like me and need a small tractor for small spaces. I love my cab B2650 (other than the hydrostatic whine, which is untenable), and I understand your have to pay for features, but i sure wish I could get away with a grand L size.
Speaking of B2650 and cabs. I wish Kubota or someone would have made a canvas cab for the open station B series! Would be so nice when plowing or blowing snow!! They would have sold a lot of them I suspect...
@@MessicksEquip Would be pretty useless I think, all you'd do is be spinning tires all the time and never accomplish anything I would think. I have the BX2680, it breaks traction a lot it seems like.
I think all the tractor are price way to high now days unreal there is no reason for that. They are just a peace of equipment that is in the dirt. But they are nice to have. Just to high. I guess I’m just pissed off that the government got into it. Where they had no business.
I bought an L4060 9 years ago from Messicks, and it's been an awesome machine. My primary specs of importance were frame size and weight for snow plowing. In almost all hp specific applications I can adjust tractor operation to suit, but with traction and weight.... You either have it or you don't.
We love our Grand L 3560 LE. We are in that need for this size of tractor for our family mini ranch with goats. This traçtor can handle the small to medium size round bales with proper ballast. I watched enough videos to learn that: Rim Guard in the tires, a 400 pound implement in the back along with a custom suit case weight rack welded to it that can hold our 12 suit case weights of just over 550 pounds.
We also had a dealer that only orders these tractors with the more robust loader. Another advantage with that loader is that you can get the hydraulic SSQA option, which is so convenient. Especially good option as you get older. LOL
Neil probably ought to do a video on it as well as some after-market options that you can have for non Grand L tractors. We also added the 3rd function and the 3 rear remotes.
On our farm I needed loader capacity to lift, stack, and carry heavy round bales. I couldn't afford a grand L tractor. So I went with an L4701 (now it is a L4702). It has the lift capacity we needed for the price we could afford. It is a great tractor. It is also a pretty large tractor.
Bought a used L4740 for my horse farm and absolutely love it. Tons of power for brush hogging, running a PTO chipper and plenty of weight/size for moving round bales or dragging the box blade around the driveway.
We really appreciate your videos out here Neil. Always great information and you helped me decide what tractor to get when I bought mine 5 years ago.
I have the L3902 and treat it as the tool it is. This tractor can do some work! Yea I wish it had a better seat and tilt wheel but other than that it has performed every task I've asked from it.
Great comparative study and discussion, Neill!👍
Choosing to go with the L4060LE over with L3902 was a great decision. I love the machine. I didn’t think I would care much for the HST+ transmission but boy was I wrong! The HDS is so useful on my hilly property. My tractor is always in Low gear where I live but being able to shift down to Low/Low while approaching a drop without having to stop to change gears is great! The extra weight of the larger machine helps me bang out the gravel road to my private neighborhood in no time. I can resurface the whole road in an hour or two with my land plane versus all day with my neighbors 1025R. I can’t wait to start clearing out some of my land!
At the time I bought, the Grand L 3560 with the 805 loader was only about $3k more than the 3901. I didn't even consider the 3560, because I assumed it was way out of my price range. Little did I know... Hoping to upgrade to a 3560 when the time is right.
The bigger size of the 3560 might make it tough to do what I do and fit where I need to fit, but the creature comforts, quieter HST and increased lift capacity front and back will be well worth it.
Be wary clearing land with these tractors. They are not designed to work in rough conditions, they are designed to work on fairly clear fields. A stick thrown up by a tyre could puncture a filter or snap a line and ruin your day.
Take it easy and slow, be aware as much as possible of what is going on. I have a larger MX5200 tractor and it is vulnerable to sticks and rocks.
@ I will keep that in mind. Most of the heavy duty clearing I have to do is in the corners of the lot that my home is on. I’ll be yanking small trees and moving the bigger ones that I cut down with my grapple. So the tractor will be in areas that are already cleared. We do have a couple of lots that are extremely overgrown and there is a bunch of trash on them including a stripped mobile home on one. Those ones are more concerning. I’m planning on using my hand brush cutter to do the first walkthrough and cut with those lots so I can remove or mark out objects that would be hazardous to the tractor.
Nice explanation of these tractors. Thanks for sharing with us.
Nice stuff. Answering questions for so many.
Thanks for this info... Love the info and content.
Nice comparison Neil. If a person is unsure about what to get for the tasks they need to do get with the salesperson that is well versed in the different tractor models to explain the differences between each model and how it compares with the tasks that you need it to do. Thanks Neil
I didn’t have seat envy for my L3301 until I watched this video and saw the LX seat. Dang! Now my rear is going to hurt every time I use it! Thanks, Neil!
Thank you
I want a Grand L with .25 acre property 😊
Great video
Nice, short, informative video.
I like his style too. No drama or games. He is just getting to the point and not trying so hard to sell it.
Just set a customer up with an LX3520 and is the perfect match for what they are looking to do. That machine is so smooth. With rear ballast the 3520 and 4020 are beasts on that chassis.
I still really like the 3902 but again it just depends exactly what the customer is looking for. 3902 is a great tractor
Great. But its all about the PTO pump for the work speed and irritation factor, or lack of that. A slow moving bucket is a pain...
Is the displacement of the engines the same? Do they have the same torque? Have the same ability to drive the hydraulic pumps?
I wish Kubota would put a dual clutch in the 2502F/DT & 3302DT series.
With the onset of more hydraulic powered implements, the hydraulic gpm is becoming a more important spec. I hope the manufacturers are looking at this.
Agree. We've been asking for high-flow tool carriers for awhile now.
@MessicksEquip agreed, yes there are pto driven hydraulic power pacs for the 3pt but it would be nice to have something that is built into the tractor. A "high flow" tractor that would be par with a standard flow skiddy/CTL. Kubota definitely has the know how to do it and do it the right way , we just need them to look at the industry shift that's happening
@ Yup. For the vast majority of people with low gpm tractors, a power pac plus the cost of a hydraulic driven implement is going to be cost prohibitive, unless your doing a commercial business. The need for higher gpm pumps already built into smaller tractors is going to become a race if the trend continues with more hydro powered equipment.
Got a 400 hour ls 573 cab machine for 40g like 3 years ago...
Any idea when info about the MX4900HSTC is coming out?
similar to what IHC did with the 856 Customs
Not sure it would be a big seller but an MX4000 would also be an interesting option for the agricultural type user.
Mx5000 is on its way this year. Your not the only one who thinks this way.
Buy at least one size up from what you think you need.
You're going to want it.
Since the standard L models do not have a mid PTO, how do you power a snow blower on the front of the tractor? Do you need a shaft going all the way to the rear PTO?
You don't 😄. You buy an LX or Grand L that have Mid PTO.
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I need to know the torque difference. HP is relevant vs. torque and a high % torque rise.
You can get the blocked numbers off the spec sheet, and look up the torque curve on the Kubota engine USA website.
It’s annoying how relatively expensive the smaller compact tractors are. A 3560 is the same price (essentially) as a 4020. Ouch, if you’re like me and need a small tractor for small spaces. I love my cab B2650 (other than the hydrostatic whine, which is untenable), and I understand your have to pay for features, but i sure wish I could get away with a grand L size.
I do agree. Size is not always a indicator of cost.
Speaking of B2650 and cabs.
I wish Kubota or someone would have made a canvas cab for the open station B series! Would be so nice when plowing or blowing snow!! They would have sold a lot of them I suspect...
Choose the one that doesn't require you to take out a mortgage to pay for it.
When the T7 blue power 340 will be When’s gonna be on the lot
Another is on its way. Probably a few months though.
So when is the 40HP engine coming to the BX series LOL.
Nothing would surprise me any more
@@MessicksEquip Would be pretty useless I think, all you'd do is be spinning tires all the time and never accomplish anything I would think. I have the BX2680, it breaks traction a lot it seems like.
I think all the tractor are price way to high now days unreal there is no reason for that. They are just a peace of equipment that is in the dirt. But they are nice to have. Just to high. I guess I’m just pissed off that the government got into it. Where they had no business.
Way to many compact tractors in the Kubota lineup and many overlapping. You need a semester course just to understand it. Just my opinion.
Once it can cause too much competition with in brand.
I totally agree that there's too many models
When you really understand their purpose, you can see that they are targeted towards different users
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