Proof of a pre trib rapture pay attention to the cloud and clouds Jesus appears in.Acts chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 cloud. Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 cloud. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming with the Clouds. This is the second coming of Jesus. God bless.......
Frank Merolillo, you are a Deceived Moron, and a "pre-trib" Pharisee !! You are so Blinded, that you cannot even understand what I as a Theologian, am presenting to you here below !! 1.Thess.4:15 declares that; ...."We that are Alive, shall Not 'Prevent' them that are Asleep" ( those "DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST" mentioned in verse 16 !!! So tell me, What part of; ..... "Caught-Up Together with Them", of verse 17, ( these "DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST" ) Don't you understand ?? As such "DEAD In CHRIST" Must include the Tribulation MARTYRS, that by the Definition of being "Martyrs", qualify them as part of being the "DEAD in CHRIST" !! Or are you just plain "Brain Dead" ?? The passage of 1.Thess.4:15-17, explicitly Proves, that No RAPTURE is Possible, BEFORE those "that are asleep". ( verse 15 , the "DEAD In CHRIST", that must "RISE FIRST".) And they will Not Rise until what we read in verse 16 is said to happen, that; ... "The LORD will Descend from Heaven with a Shout, with the Voice of the Archangel and with the Trump of GOD; ( an End of tribulation Time-Line ) As verse 16 continues to declare, that; ...."The DEAD In CHRIST Will RISE FIRST" !! Which I Already have alluded to, and such "DEAD in CHRIST", must INCLUDE ALL the Tribulation MARTYRS !! And Rev.20:4 makes it Clear that they are Not Raised ( Resurrected ) until the Very End of the Tribulation. And Rev.20:5 declares that This is The FIRST RESURRECTION !! ( that is Separated from the SECOND RESURRECTION, by EXACTLY "One-Thousand" Years !! ) "Then verse 17, puts the Last "Nail in the Coffin" of this HERETICAL "Pre-Trib" Rapture HOAX, by telling us, that;...."We that are Alive and REMAIN", ( Who according to verse 15, cannot "Precede" these that are Asleep, the "DEAD In CHRIST" ) That We will be "CAUGHT-UP", ( RAPTURED ) "Together with THEM". ( That means at this Same End of Tribulation Time-line, as Christ is ONLY COMING BACK a Second Time !! ( Heb.9:28. READ IT in the KJV , you Braiwashed Moron ! ) Joe Schimmel Won that debate Hands Down !! As He presented the TRUTH of the Scriptures, that you you Brainwashed , Dumb'd Down, and deceived "Pre-Tribbers", are to Indoctrinated by these "Pseudo Scholars", like the Idiot DOUG STAUFFER , to even Begin to Comprehend the Truth of God's Word !! Doug STAUFFER is a Blabbering IDIOT, I sent him a Copy of my Book on his request, But he is too much of a Moron to understand it , and did not even have the Decency and Courtesy to thank me !! What an Absolute JERK !! Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
Thank you, but does not work that way...look up Matthew 24:30; Matthew 26:64; Mark 13.26, 14:62 "clouds" is Second Coming so your theory of Luke 21:27 singular cloud has not basis. Sorry, but must look up every scripture and not force private interpretation.
@@FaithIndependentBaptistChurch , Doug Stauffer, No you must Not "Look up Every scripture", as the scriptures you referred to, are NOT Foundational to the First Resurrection, and the SUBSEQUENT Rapture !! Only 1.Thess.4:13-18, and 1.Cor.15:22-23, and verses 50-54, are the Only part that is the Foundational Text, concerning the RAPTURE ! As Such, 1.Thess.4:15-17, can Not be "Negotiated Away", as it is the "Binding Factor", that Proves that; ...."We that are Alive and Remain, will not PRECEDE these that are Asleep". ( the DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST", of verse16 ) And the Other FACT of verse 16 is , that these "DEAD IN CHRIST, RISE FIRST", Must Include All the Martyrs, since Righteous ABEL, including All of the MARTYRS of the Latter Half of the TRIBULATION, /9 /rev.6:9-11, as they are Part of, and included in the "DEAD In CHRIST", that "RISE FIRST" !! And DOUG, if you disagree with THAT FACT, then you have Declared Yourself A biblical Moron and a HERETIC !! So 1.Thess.4:15-17, is basically; "CHECK MATE" , for the Deceased FREEMASON, John DARBY , and His "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE Theory !! And DOUG, If you can be Honest, This is Also the "END of the LINE" for You, to promote this FRAUD and FALSEHOOD, as you have likewise Become "CHECK-MATE" in your presenting this HERESY !! My Invitation to you, to meet with me, so that you can be instructed into the TRUTH of the scriptures still stands, But up till now, you seem to have been too Arrogant to accept, as it seems you think of yourself as some "Big Brain" Coming down the Pike !! When in Essence you are nothing More than a "Indoctrinated Pseudo Scholar", and a Pharisee !! And if you think I am being "unkind" or "Un-Christian" in Telling you the Truth in this Way ! Then Consider the Fact that JESUS likewise never spoke Kindly to the Pharisees of His Day Either !! Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
I really hate it when people attack the KJB. Man that really gets under my skin! 😡
Proof of a pre trib rapture pay attention to the cloud and clouds Jesus appears in.Acts chapter 1 verses 9 10 11 cloud. Luke chapter 21 verses 27 and 28 cloud. In Revelation chapter 1 verse 7 Jesus is coming with the Clouds. This is the second coming of Jesus. God bless.......
Frank Merolillo, you are a Deceived Moron, and a "pre-trib" Pharisee !! You are so Blinded, that you cannot even understand what I as a Theologian, am presenting to you here below !!
1.Thess.4:15 declares that; ...."We that are Alive, shall Not 'Prevent' them that are Asleep" ( those "DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST" mentioned in verse 16 !!!
So tell me, What part of; ..... "Caught-Up Together with Them", of verse 17, ( these "DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST" ) Don't you understand ?? As such "DEAD In CHRIST" Must include the Tribulation MARTYRS, that by the Definition of being "Martyrs", qualify them as part of being the "DEAD in CHRIST" !! Or are you just plain "Brain Dead" ??
The passage of 1.Thess.4:15-17, explicitly Proves, that No RAPTURE is Possible, BEFORE those "that are asleep". ( verse 15 , the "DEAD In CHRIST", that must "RISE FIRST".)
And they will Not Rise until what we read in verse 16 is said to happen, that; ... "The LORD will Descend from Heaven with a Shout, with the Voice of the Archangel and with the Trump of GOD; ( an End of tribulation Time-Line )
As verse 16 continues to declare, that; ...."The DEAD In CHRIST Will RISE FIRST" !! Which I Already have alluded to, and such "DEAD in CHRIST", must INCLUDE ALL the Tribulation MARTYRS !!
And Rev.20:4 makes it Clear that they are Not Raised ( Resurrected ) until the Very End of the Tribulation. And Rev.20:5 declares that This is The FIRST RESURRECTION !! ( that is Separated from the SECOND RESURRECTION, by EXACTLY "One-Thousand" Years !! )
"Then verse 17, puts the Last "Nail in the Coffin" of this HERETICAL "Pre-Trib" Rapture HOAX, by telling us, that;...."We that are Alive and REMAIN", ( Who according to verse 15, cannot "Precede" these that are Asleep, the "DEAD In CHRIST" ) That We will be "CAUGHT-UP",
( RAPTURED ) "Together with THEM". ( That means at this Same End of Tribulation Time-line, as Christ is ONLY COMING BACK a Second Time !! ( Heb.9:28. READ IT in the KJV , you Braiwashed Moron ! )
Joe Schimmel Won that debate Hands Down !! As He presented the TRUTH of the Scriptures, that you you Brainwashed , Dumb'd Down, and deceived "Pre-Tribbers", are to Indoctrinated by these "Pseudo Scholars", like the Idiot DOUG STAUFFER , to even Begin to Comprehend the Truth of God's Word !!
Doug STAUFFER is a Blabbering IDIOT, I sent him a Copy of my Book on his request, But he is too much of a Moron to understand
it , and did not even have the Decency and Courtesy to thank me !! What an Absolute JERK !!
Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )
Thank you, but does not work that way...look up Matthew 24:30; Matthew 26:64; Mark 13.26, 14:62 "clouds" is Second Coming so your theory of Luke 21:27 singular cloud has not basis. Sorry, but must look up every scripture and not force private interpretation.
@@FaithIndependentBaptistChurch , Doug Stauffer, No you must Not "Look up Every scripture", as the scriptures you referred to, are NOT Foundational to the First Resurrection, and the SUBSEQUENT Rapture !!
Only 1.Thess.4:13-18, and 1.Cor.15:22-23, and verses 50-54, are the Only part that is the Foundational Text, concerning the RAPTURE !
As Such, 1.Thess.4:15-17, can Not be "Negotiated Away", as it is the "Binding Factor", that Proves that; ...."We that are Alive and Remain, will not PRECEDE these that are Asleep". ( the DEAD In CHRIST that RISE FIRST", of verse16 )
And the Other FACT of verse 16 is , that these "DEAD IN CHRIST, RISE FIRST", Must Include All the Martyrs, since Righteous ABEL, including All of the MARTYRS of the Latter Half of the TRIBULATION, /9 /rev.6:9-11, as they are Part of, and included in the "DEAD In CHRIST", that "RISE FIRST" !! And DOUG, if you disagree with THAT FACT, then you have Declared Yourself A biblical Moron and a HERETIC !!
So 1.Thess.4:15-17, is basically; "CHECK MATE" , for the Deceased FREEMASON, John DARBY , and His "Pre-Trib" RAPTURE Theory !!
And DOUG, If you can be Honest, This is Also the "END of the LINE" for You, to promote this FRAUD and FALSEHOOD, as you have likewise Become "CHECK-MATE" in your presenting this HERESY !!
My Invitation to you, to meet with me, so that you can be instructed into the TRUTH of the scriptures still stands, But up till now, you seem to have been too Arrogant to accept, as it seems you think of yourself as some "Big Brain" Coming down the Pike !! When in Essence you are nothing More than a "Indoctrinated Pseudo Scholar", and a Pharisee !! And if you think I am being "unkind" or "Un-Christian" in Telling you the Truth in this Way ! Then Consider the Fact that JESUS likewise never spoke Kindly to the Pharisees of His Day Either !!
Morgan Sorensen ( Biblical Theologian )