There's a half mile stretch of I-635 in Kansas City, Kansas where you'd be going north on 635 while going south on K-5. :) Nevermind that I hate 635 just north of Fairfax there. It has a somewhat sharp curve before the Missouri River Bridge.
Same thing happens with I-69 and I-96 in Michigan, just west of Lansing. If you are driving north, you will be on 69 East and 96 West at the same time.
Depends in which language. The original name is Spanish though. As many other names in that part of the world that was under Spanish rule for a few centuries.
For me, the biggest oddity is that the Carolinas have gotten away with having a measly 2-lane I-95 for so long. Often can cause killer jams around midday if you catch it at the wrong time on a roadtrip, especially if there's a rubberneck incident. This is the main corridor of the US East Coast we're talking about!
I agree, I went to Charlotte NC and the interstates were a pain. On I-85 it was 2 lanes the whole way high amounts of construction and literally no interstate lights.
Half of virginia has this issue too, once you leave Petersburg and head down farther south, it's only 2 lanes, and you don't see the third lane until lumberton, NC where you get like 4 miles of 3 lane highway, then it goes away and it properly returns once you cross the savannah river and enter Georgia
@@joeorebaugh4693 In order to get to I-81, you have to take I-26 through northeast Tennessee to get onto it. Or, if going up I-77, you have to drive into Virginia to get onto I-81.
The Breezewood Interchange is like that because the Pennsylvania Turnpike (the road I-70 joins to run concurrent with through much of PA) was built nearly 20 years before the Interstate Highway System. There were a lot of real weird rules and policies basically prohibiting direct interchanges between interstates and toll roads in the early days of the Interstate System. Hell a (semi) direct connection between the Turnpike and I-95 just north of Philly was just completed in 2018.
The PA Turnpike "intersection" with I-81 is another example of where there isn't a direct connection between the two. Not as bad as Breezewood but plenty of trucks to slow you down.
Actually there are plenty of indirect interchanges between tollways and freeways. Examples include I-65, I-94, US-31, I-69, I-75, I-280, I-71, and I-77 between Chicago and Cleveland. Federal funds can be used to do improvements on toll road interchanges, as when modifying a simple junction to an interstate-standard interchange, but only if the section containing that interchange has its tolls removed upon the payment of the bonds on that route. For example, the Indiana Toll Road paid construction costs to upgrade the Indiana Toll Road's connection to US 27 (a simple intersection at old US 27) into another interchange when I-69 was built. Without paying for the interchange back in the 1960's the eastern-most 35 miles of Indiana Toll Road would now be freeway. Indirect interchanges are perfectly acceptable in the Interstate system; some of those have never been tolled, such as the one between I-71 and I-76 in Ohio
That interchange between tolled/untolled highways kind of explains the anomaly that I-57 and I-294 in the Chicago area didn't have a direct connection until recently as well.
I-69 generally follows a north-south path but once you get north of Lansing, Michigan, it takes a huge turn to the East in order to get to Port Huron, MI. The signs on the highway from this point to the Canadian Border read East/West I-69 instead of the traditional North/South (since it's an odd number interstate) I-69
And I-94 in Port Huron travels North/South even though it's even-numbered. As someone from Ontario who only ever uses the last sections of these two interstates, it's a bit ironic.
Here's an oddity for a future video. Interstate 99 in Pennsylvania, in addition to being out of the grid, doesn't even directly connect to the rest of the interstate system, being connected indirectly with I-76/70 on the southern end by a Breezewood, PA style interchange, and on the northern end the interstate stops at a traffic light about a third of a mile from I-80. However, there is part of I-99 that is connected directly with the system, which is in New York, connected to I-86. Also, I-238 in California should get a mention, since there's no I-38.
It can be connected to I-68 (Cumberland MD), and it could reach Rochester, New York. The problem is that all odd numbers for Interstates between "67" and "95" were taken .
I 99 was made for 2 reasons 1 the guy who wanted it put there didn't like the the normal numbers and wanted something special for his state so he was able to get i99 but during the contraction phased it was never finished as it was supposed to go from NY down into central pa Us 15 takes up most of the planed part of I 99 and has signs still saying future I 99 on it as it would head south on the current us 15 then west over us 230 I believe till it reaches where I 99 is today
@@MetroHam You're talking about "Bud" Shuster. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Shuster I also mentioned I-99 above. By the time it was started all the odd numbers between 90 and 100 had been taken, and because I-99 is north-south, it had to be odd.
One of the major reasons for the interstate highway system Is for national defense and the interstate highway that cuts through the center of the island of Oahu directly connects 2 military bases which was extremely important when it was planned in the 1960s.
There was an Air Force base where H-1 ends near Le`ahi (Diamond Head). On the other end, it was further extended past PHH after its original construction. If Alaska can have interstate highways, you can extend H-1 towards Disney.
Hawaii’s Interstate System highways are explained by the seldom used full name of the system, “The Dwight D Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways.”
@@rrchapman The end of H-1 at Kahala has no military connection. There was never an Air Force base near there. The closest military location was Ft. Ruger, which consisted of the interior of Diamond Head Crater as well as an exterior portion as well, but that ceased to exist in the 1980s.
Back in the early 60's, I-78 continued through Manhattan and to the Belt Parkway. Obviously the Belt Parkway isn't interstate standard so eventually I-78 was terminated in Jersey City. This explains how there is a I-678 and I-878 miles from I-78.
In general, if you see an interstate that goes to a whole lot of nothing or just seems unnecessary, it means that there were most likely plans for it to extend farther/be larger than it ended up being. One example is I-189 in Burlington, VT.
There were also plans for an I-289 which would've branched off just north of the Richmond interchange, gone through Essex and Williston with direct access to the then-IBM campus and end at VT-127 in Colchester. Only the portion between Routes 117 and 2A in Essex, and an extension to Susie Wilson Rd. to meet at the latter, were ever built and after a decade or so it was downloaded and re-signposted as VT state route 289.
Slight misconception-the term “interstate” actually refers to its funding, as interstates are funded by a combination of multiple state governments and federal money, rather than state highways that are funded purely by the state they’re in. While it’s up to each state’s DOT to maintain the roads, the initial money for constructing them came from several different sources, hence the name interstate. There are plenty of “intrastate” interstates like I-45, I-4, I-2, and I-12, all that received federal funding. The Hawaii ones are just the same, only they have an H in front due to the fragmented nature of the state away from the mainland.
@@stephenplatt5048 Actually, the Puerto Rico ones are signed as interstates... sort of. They use the ordinary "major highway" solid blue shield used for other highways in Puerto Rico, but with a small sign above that says "INT" which stands for "interstate." Oddly, through, they're signed as INT-1, INT-2, and INT-3, even though they're officially designated Interstates PR1, PR2, and PR3.
The term interstate (as a regular adjective, not a name) means that it spans multiple states, not that it's federally funded. You might be able to stretch the definition and say that certain Interstate highways receive interstate funding and maintenance as well as federal funding, but that is still not the case for the Hawaiian highways. Of course the Interstate highway system as a whole does span multiple states, so I still don't think the name is necessarily a misnomer, but so do the federal highways which if I'm not mistaken are funded and maintained in a similar fashion.
When you look at the full name of the Interstate system (Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways) and think about the system as a means of national defense, it actually makes perfect sense why Hawaii has Interstates. Hawaii's Interstates connect all of the major military installations on O'ahu. I-H1 runs from near the Coast Guard station at Barbers Point to the Hawaii National Guard base near Diamond Head, and passes by Joint Base Pearl Harbor Hickam. I-H2 is an offshoot of I-H1 and ends near Wheeler Army Airfield and Schofield Barracks. I-H3 is another offshoot of I-H1 which ends at Marine Corps Base Hawaii.
@@notmuch_23 the I-81 in NY connects Syracuse to Canada and in just north of Watertown they built 781 as effectively Fort Drum's driveway. (Its a combination Air force & Army base) The interstate is originally intended for national defense and they just let us drive on it. Granted an obsession happened in the 60s with building them in places they don't belong and to clear "urban blight" (poor nieghborhoods).
In the early days of the interstate system there used to be multiple suffixed Interstate routes. I-76 in NE-CO used to be I-80S, I-82 in WA-OR used to be I-80N, and I-76 in Ohio used to be I-80S as well. There's also an officially designated I-480N in Cleveland, Ohio, but is only signed as such on mile markers.
The old I-80N was actually the current I-84 which runs from Portland through Boise to Ogden. I-82 in Eastern Washington and Oregon has always been I-82. That's why there appears to be a sequential anomaly (I-82 north of I-84) but it was correct under the original highway numbers.
@@toborobo Fun fact -- What is now the western I-84 was originally numbered I-82, and what is now I-82 wasn't marked down as an Interstate corridor at the time (1956). The original I-82 even had a split terminus, with the western I-86 labeled as I-82N and I-84 labeled as I-82S. However, 82S only ran to Tremonton, UT at a junction with I-15. It wasn't until a small section of current I-84 was added between Riverdale and Echo that the road became I-80N the entire way to Portland. In my mind, this is where AASHO screwed up. This I-80N was the longest suffixed interstate in the system, at almost 800 miles. It should have stayed as I-82, with I-82N becoming I-86 (like it is today) and current I-82 becoming I-88, both of which were available at the time of the change (1958). Alternatively, I personally think it's criminal that Portland, a major West Coast city, doesn't merit an I-x0 interstate; Portland should have been I-80's western terminus, with San Francisco getting an elongated I-70.
One of my favorite quirks is the junction of I-215, I-515, and I-11 in Las Vegas. They all start/end at the same interchange, which is bizarre. I remember being confused by that while driving through that area. The north end of I-476 ends in a big u-turn feeding into three separate trumpet interchanges, all in the name of collecting tolls.
BRO I just found out about the interchange today, yea it’s weird. I was looking at the huge viaduct connecting to it and I found out about it. Apparently they fixing it up and making it better, so that’s good
I imagine that when I-11 is built all the way through the Vegas metro area and extended to Carson City that I-515 signage will disappear. US 93 will probably be truncated to start northeast of Vegas at I-15. I-215 and CR-215 should be redesignated with a rerouted US-95 that goes along the western and southern flanks of the Vegas Valley through Henderson. That would clear up that interchange quite nicely from the mess of signage it is now. Then again, it's only one scenario for US-95. I don't know what's in store for that route when I-11 comes into its own.
You forgot I-40 around the TN/NC border where it goes thru the mountains. Its 55mph, curvy, tiny shoulders, dangerous as hell. Every 2-3 years there is a rock slide that blocks one or both sides of the road for a few weeks. Honestly though its an impressive feat of engineering considering the terrain.
It's very interesting to see every once in a while lol. It's one of the only things that I like about NC that is amazing. Even then I think the 55 mph is too arbitrary since depending on traffic you could go 70 there
The old I 84 and I 87 interchange in Newburgh, NY used to be like that. Had to get off the highway to go on a state route for 100 yards and then can get on the other interstate. About 15 years ago they redid the entire thing
I-176 in Pennsylvania (between the PA Turnpike/I-76 in Morgantown and US 422 near Reading) was the same way: you had to get off onto PA Rt. 10 and go into Morgantown (near the Berks/Chester County Line) just to get to I-176 at a traffic light. Eventually, both the PA Turnpike Commission and the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) built a new alignment of I-176 to allow a direct connection to the PA Turnpike. Then again, Pennsylvania is also home to another "Breezewood Interstate", as I-676 has to use a stretch of local streets in Philadelphia to get to New Jersey, via the Ben Franklin Bridge (something that couldn't be avoided as it would have destroyed Franklin Square, which not only it was supposed to be where Franklin conducted his famous kite experiment, but also served as a Potter's Field).
4:31 No it won't it's been confirmed by the Arizona Department of transportation that when I-19's sign's are replaced (which could happen soon given the new infrastructure bill) it will be in miles
LOVE THESE VIDEOS! My favorite oddity is interstate 93 in northern New Hampshire, more specifically the Franconia notch. It becomes a super two parkway. Also, only five states base most of their exits on a sequential basis rather than by mile marker, and they are New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire.
Up until the mid-80s, I-93 ended on either side of Franconia Notch, and extending it through was hugely controversial because building a full 4-lane highway with Interstate-standard grades and curves would have been caused huge environmental damage to one of the most scenic locations in NH. The two-lane parkway was the resulting compromise.
The Breezewood junction in Pennsylvania isn't that odd when you consider the PA Turnpike was built in 1940 before the Interstate system. The interchanges connected to US highways in town, which spawned all the gas stations and hotels. Only in the past 20-30 years have links been built from interstate to interstate. Up until the early 1990's to continue on I-76 in King of Prussia through to Philadelphia you had to exit and go on local streets for a bit. I wonder if the local businesses that would be bypassed by a direct link exerted some political power to keep direct links from being built.
Also, since at first the government wouldn't fund toll roads, the Turnpike Commission refused to build new interstates that they thought might be unwanted competition.
To correct you, as I am a lifelong resident of Southeastern Pennsylvania, the PA Turnpike's "Philadelphia Extension" (going from Carlisle to Valley Forge and King of Prussia) ended at where the present-day I-76 intersects with US 202, continuing on into Philadelphia as the infamous (and pre-Interstate) Schuylkill Expressway. The "Delaware River Extension" (I-276), going from Valley Forge (which was rebuilt as a trumpet interchange) to the Delaware River Bridge to New Jersey, is the section of the PA Turnpike that did not have a direct connection to I-95 when the latter was built in the 1960s. This was due to existing Federal laws in place, and required one to either exit at the Bensalem interchange (US 1) or the Delaware Valley interchange (US 13). When Congress passed legislation in 1982 that allowed the State of New Jersey to cancel the Somerset Freeway (which would have built a stretch of I-95 from Trenton to I-287 near Somerset, with I-95 becoming part of the NJ Turnpike at the Metuchen-Edison exit), the legislation required that I-95 be rerouted into NJ, via a direct connection to the PA Turnpike near Bristol. That is the new interchange that was opened in 2018, closing the most notorious gap in the Interstate Highway System.
@@rwboa22 The PA turnpike in that section was also realigned in the 60's or so to bypass two tunnels in that area. The reason why the "ramp" to breezewood is so long is that ramp was part of the original turnpike alignment prior to it being realigned
There's also a photo of the Kansas Turnpike pavement ending abruptly at the Oklahoma state line near Winfield in 1956. It's a hilarious image to behold. But the Kansas Turnpike predates the Interstate Highway Systems, albeit by only a few years.
You forgot interstate 99, it's supposed to be east of interstate 95 but it's not it's in the middle of Pennsylvania. The reason is because one congressman REALLY wanted I99 to be in their state and Congress specifically made an exemption for this interstate in the highway code just so he could have it
There's also the fact that US-15 in New York from Painted Post to the PA state line was recently given the I-99 designation, thus creating a section of I-99 separated from the rest of it.
Not that odd considering lots of interstates are not where they should be. Parts of the future 69 are west of 45, 82 is further north than 84, and parts of 15 will be well west of where 11 will be. Not to mention 238 in the Bay Area, The numbering is just a guide, and as long as the route is in the general area logic would dictate... now if 99 were in Idaho, that would be weird.
I-97 in Maryland is not only in a single state, it's all within a single COUNTY. Also, there should be a whole video on wrong-way concurrencies. I think you covered the most notorious one (77-81 in SW Virginia) , but there are certainly others such as on i-376 just south on the Ft. Pitt Tunnels.
One of my favorite oddities in the Interstate system is how I-75 and I-85 merge in Atlanta into one highway to run north-south through downtown. The weird part is how the merged section also doubles as a crossing: at the north end of I-75-85, I-75 splits off to the northwest to go to Chattanooga, while I-85 splits off to the northeast to go to The Carolina’s; at the south end, I85 splits to the southwest to go to Alabama, while I-75 splits off to the southeast to pass the Hartsfield International Airport and go through Macon and down through Florida. And ironically, the bypass I-475 around the western edge of Macon is shorter than the path through Macon.
I-475 was intended to actually be the route for 1-75. Macon leaders were upset that the interstate was bypassing Macon, so they lobbied to have it come through Macon.
Yes! The 75/85 "connector" in downtown Atlanta always confused me when I lived there. Especially on the north side where 75 & 85 split. Looking at a map, 75 goes nw and 85 ne, but on the actually split , the traffic lanes that lead to 75 are on the RIGHT side of the road and the lanes leading to 85, are on the LEFT! Soooo many people get that confused, and they're is no easy way to backtrack to get on the intended intestate.
@@mocowan6642 But, the overwhelming majority of traffic to Florida moves onto I-475 until south of Macon. It even reads "Bypass to Valdosta". The I-75 section through Macon is four lanes instead of six lanes like I-475. It is also not kept up as well. Pretty much, the most of the traveling traffic that goes on that stretch of I-75 are people who want to get to Savannah or I-95 by way of I-16. South of the I-75/I-16 junction, it's pretty much local traffic until it merges with I-75.
@@chadnga8 I have a few of those "Oh crap! I'm in the wrong lane!" moments every time I drive through Atlanta. I-285 gets me when I somehow go from the far right lane to the far left, even though I never actually change lanes. At least I remembered the I-85 North quirk this time, and managed to fight my way over to a correct lane in time. I-75 through Macon was not fun when I used to drive over there. The scariest part was always going from I-75 North to I-16, where I would drive around a sharp curve and immediately run into(almost literally)traffic backed up at the first exit. I haven't been there in many years, so hopefully it has been improved, but I don't think there was room to do much.
In downtown Cleveland I-90 makes a sharp 90° turn where you have to slow all the way down to 35 mph, it’s known as dead man’s curve locally. Always seemed strange to me that a major interstate would make such a sharp turn out of nowhere and i’ve yet to see a similar instance anywhere else in the US.
Yeah, don't get me started on the whole Breezewood situation! Lol! I grew up about 20 minutes away from there, in the 90s! Believe me, that area is a nightmare! The reason I-70 doesn't directly connect to I-76, is because I-76 is the PA Turnpike and is a toll road! The Turnpike was originally constructed in the 1930s and 1940s, and I-70 much later! That whole area definitely has some interesting history! I think you should check into the PA Turnpike history, you could probably make some great content with that! By the way, keep up the great videos!
2:28: A lot of interchanges on the Pennsylvania Turnpike look like this - this design allows there to only be one tollboth for the entire interchange, regardless of what direction you're going! Maybe less important now that human toll collectors have been eliminated... 4:47: Hawaii isn't "dumb"; the interstate system is funded by the federal government, so having interstates lets Hawaii take advantage of that funding. But that requires them to use the interstate branding for those roads.
Your final sentence is not accurate. Alaska and Puerto Rico get their share of Interstate Highway funding, and certain roads are designated as Interstates A1 through A4 and PR1 through PR3 for administrative and funding purposes, but they are not signed as such, as Hawaii has chosen to do.
Yes you described a trumpet interchange. The difference is I 70 West dumps onto US 30 at a traffic light. Then you go through more intersections before taking the on ramp to continue onto I 70 West.
Running immediately south of downtown St. Paul for several miles, the posted speed limit for 35E is only 45mph. I believe it is the slowest interstate highway speed limit in the US. Locals call it the "practice freeway!"
An interesting oddity in my town Kingston NY is the home of the 7th smallest Interstate (and 5th smallest signed Interstate), I-587. It's 1.4 miles long with no exists and is also dual signed as NY Rt. 28 and starts and ends into two roundabouts.
This was the first of your videos I have watched and I love all of the weird stuff you dug up! My only feedback is it is too quick to understand each point so if you continued to show the map you are discussing instead of switching to your clip of the beaver with the earth, we would get more time to understand your amazing points. Keep up the great work!!
I've been on that I-70 interchange!! Being in Maryland, I took it traveling to Cedar Point and I was SO CONFUSED. I literally had no clue why the GPS took me off the highway, just to get back on, but I never thought much more about it until this video lmao
Here's one in my parts - Interstate 275 in Knoxville, Tennessee has a very heavy "kink" between the Heiskell Ave Exit and the Oldham Ave/W Woodland Ave exits instead of just going straight through. That's because when it was built there was a very large Norfolk Southern railyard in the planned route. With them having significant power and play so-to-say, I-275 was rerouted to have said kink in the layout as not to disturb the railyard.
Yeah its through Franconia Notch state park. Live about an hour and a half south of there, speed limit is pretty low to its 40 mph if I'm remembering correctly.
@@matts7019 I was recently driving through Baton Rouge. It was multiple lanes the whole way through, maybe for a few years it was while they did bridge work?
@@schalitz1 Might be the case. Haven't been there in a long time but I've heard complaints from people 8n the area about it being 1 lane. Might have been an eternal roadwork project.
Amen on Breezewood! I always felt they should add legalized gambling there--if anywhere. It already has the bright lights and hotel rooms. But it shouldn't have interstate traffic pushed through it. In fact, I'd like to see I-68 should be extended west, its Cumberland, MD leg rerouted, and I-70 be given that new way west along the "National Freeway." Another place along I-76 that makes one interstate (I-81) use a traffic-laden street is in Carlisle, PA. It's long overdue for I-76 to be toll-free and "opened up." The traffic on it is is strikingly low because the fares (and access) are issues.
your lisp is endearing. i had a friend back in kid times who had a lisp just like that. good memories. you chose the perfect animal mascot to represent the voice. great channel and vid man. love stinkpieces on the highway system
I-10, a cross country major route swings down to New Orleans in Louisiana, where I-12 forms a by pass that is 30 miles or more, shorter than staying on I-10 all the way. Same thing happens in the city of New Orleans proper, where I-610 creates a shortcut to I-10, saving 4-5 miles by taking the I-610 shortcut instead of staying on I-10.
This is one thing I really wish they'd decided differently back when my parents were kids. I-10 should just follow what they called I-12, and I-59 should extend south to New Orleans. The other part of I-10 just northwest of New Orleans probably would have been I-10S in this scenario, and later changed to I-110 or I-6 or something.
I-310 and I-510 in metro New Orleans which by themselves don't really make a lot of sense originally were supposed to be part of I-410, a southern beltway that was going to go through suburbs or swamp but for some reason was cancelled
All 4 of the Interstate 180’s have some quirks: You nailed the Wyoming one. The one in Pennsylvania is signed east-west for it’s entire route even though half of the route runs north-south. The other interesting part is that the exit numbers go up as you go east and down as you go west, which is not the standard format. And the ones in Nebraska and Illinois both have exit numbers that go down as you go north and go up as you go south, which is not the standard format.
The worst part about the Breezewood connection is that it's a 90 degree turn, so you can't even merge smoothly onto the interstate. You're forced to come to a stop or at least slow down below 20 mph. I'm guessing they know it will affect the local economy if they fix it, but it was just a really stupid idea.
Love this stuff! Anything to do with geography! Great job, perhaps you could do a feature on the toll roads in the United States I think that would be really interesting! You know something like shortest, longest, cheapest so on and so forth!
In Castaic CA, and Charlotte, NC the interstate crosses over and drives on the left. In Castaic, it is due the grading requirements to climb the south side of the Grapevine connecting the central valley to Los Los Angeles Basin. In Charlotte, it is to accommodate a rest stop.
The original plan was for I-78 to go straight through Manhattan and cross Brooklyn toward JFK airport. When I was a kid, the parallel eastbound highway spur off Belt Pkwy approaching the airport was labeled I-78. It was changed to NY 878 later since it was clear I-78 would not be built. If it were, then all of these would have connected.
Interstate 93 through Franconia Notch in New Hampshire is the only stretch of interstate that is a single lane in each direction, with a 45 MPH speed limit. This is so it doesn't have too much of an environmental impact on the Notch area.
Both I 70 quirks are because one of the segments are paid toll roads. A straight simple interchange would lead to backups on the main non toll highway. The longer oval like curve that crosses itself allows for less backups. While the one that goes on the main road in town had to also consider the terrain and lack of space. While some backups occur, imagine having to put the toll booth in right past the on ramp from town. Backups would likely bring thevtiwn to a standstill
Up until 2002, I-865 in Boone County, Indiana was designated as I-465, so there was a time when I-465 intersected with itself. Also, if you ever plan on doing a video of interstates that were planned but never built, there's I-165 in Indianapolis.
I also spoke with a student from IU that said I-465 and the interchange with what is now I-865 is used as an example of how not to build interstates. How the original idea was that every interstate needed two "end points." That mindset has since been long abandoned. As beltways, such as I-485 in Charlotte, has no "end points," as it is a continuous beltway.
@@Dratchev241 I may be wrong in this, but I believe US31 from Indianapolis north to Michigan was going to be I-67 in the early planning stages of the Interstate Highway System.
@@joshroller9449 i believe that is correct, I do know I-69 was to connect in downtown Indianapolis at the 65/70 north split, you can actually see the ramps that were made for it in sat view. 69 was to run north a bit before going northeast on binford. US-31 is currently being upgraded and will likely become I-67 sometime in the future, only a few spots for them left to finish in northern Indiana.
I-10 in Baton Rouge narrows to one lane and it isn’t because of construction; it’s simply designed that way. This is the only stretch of interstate in the US that does this.
69 W/C/E is because Congress mandated the specific number 69 on a path with those three branches, so AASHTO's (the organization that usually decides Interstate and US route numbers) hands were tied. That same legislation also said that I-94 between Chicago and Detroit is *also* Interstate 69 for some reason, but since it's already built and that's a pretty stupid stipulation, nobody really cares if IDOT, InDOT, and MDOT just never get around to signing that part of I-69.
Another weird situation that people don’t talk about is I-94. It’s normal at first, but once you get to Milwaukee, I-94 starts heading south to avoid Lake Michigan. But the signs are signed for I-94 EAST/WEST. They could have just terminated I-94 in Milwaukee and had the remaining portions Re numbered. I-94s portion where it heads south to Chicago could had been replaced by a longer I-41. Also they should rename I-94 in Indiana and Michigan I-86 or I-98.
I-84 and I-91 around Hartford Connecticut is interesting. Mostly because of the number of spur routes or bypasses that were planned then canceled. You can still see some evidence of this today. Canceled interstates: I-291(partially built), I-284,I-484,I-494 and I-82 to providence, RI. Along with a whole number of state highways planned then canceled.
As I understand it I-84 was headed to Providence, part of that alignment is I-384 today. The current I-84 that goes to Sturbridge was I-86 until the 1980's.
We just used the Breezewood I-70 I-76 nightmare and boy... was it a nightmare. We were thrown completely off guard by it and since we were pulling a 30 foot long camper it was absolute hell. I have no idea why the didn't just make it an interchange!!!
Not really having anything to do with interstates, but with a regular US route... I think Route 3 in Massachusetts is so weird. US Route 3 terminates in Boston, but then Massachusetts Route 3 takes its place throughout the rest of its trip to Cape Cod. What's even weirder is that US Route 3 and Massachusetts Route 3 are considered the same highway by MassDOT. So US Route 3's mileage signs continue off of where MA Route 3's mileage signs left off.
Another example is U.S. 33 with a southern terminus in Richmond, VA. That number continues as VA primary 33 through to West Point, at the western edge of the York River.
One oddity is that Texas has four instances of Exit 0 (zero). There is one in each direction on Interstate 10 and another pair on Interstate 40, both extremely close to the boundaries with New Mexico.
I-74 starts in the Quad Cities and ends in Cincinnati, OH but then suddenly pops up in North Carolina in 3 random sections: one that goes around Mount Air near the Virginia border, one that starts near Winston-Salem and goes south to near Ellerbe, and one in between Maxton and Lumberton. and some of these stretches are part of state routes that just become interstates.
Supposedly, whenever I-74 is finally completed, it will meet I-77 somewhere in West Virginia, then run concurrently with I-77 all through Virginia and into North Carolina, where it currently splits from I-77 in Mt. Airy. Then it would feed into U.S. 52 on a stretch currently labeled as "Future I-74 Corridor." In Winston-Salem construction is currently in progress on a road that will split I-74 from U.S. 52 and head south to connect with the next completed piece (Exit 196 off I-40 on what was formerly U.S. 311 until that route was truncated). That piece then feeds into I-73 and those two interstates run together for a while. The third and final piece is in southeastern NC and will supposedly extend into SC ending near Myrtle Beach.
I-70 through Glenwood Canyon in Colorado is double-decked for some stretches as the canyon was too narrow to allow for four full lanes to be laid down. Also, when it was built, a bike/recreation path was designed into it from the beginning.
I live in St. Petersburg and I could never really understand the reason for I-175 and 375. It's only another mile to get on to the interstate without it.
Interstate 78 traverses a pair of one-way streets in Jersey City, NJ, between the eastern end of the NJ Turnpike’s Newark Bay extension and the Holland Tunnel. I-78 does not end in Jersey City, but rather continues through several traffic lights and through the Holland Tunnel, ending across the river in New York.
Exactly. I don't see why they couldn't instead run I-70 down the I-695 bypass down the west and south sides of the metro area and instead make that part of I-70.
I travel through the town of Breezewood when I travel to Niagara Falls. I always just end up turning left on US RT 30. Another interstate junction mess is I-70/I-76 and I-99 just north of Bedford, PA. If you want to go from either interstate you have to exit off the interstates to US RT 220 and get back on the interstate you need to get onto. That's why in Breezewood, I turn left onto US RT 30 because there is an interchange between RT 30 and I-99.
Hawaii is allowed to have "Interstate" highways because they serve interstate commerce (a.k.a. tourism). Actually, I-H3 is more about national defense, but that's always been another stated purpose of the Interstate system. Also note that I-H201 only got designated as such in the last 20 years; the road itself already existed under a state highway designation. Alaska and Puerto Rico have Interstate highways too, they're just not signed. Also the ones in Alaska don't have to be built to freeway standards. I'd also like to point out that Hawaii doesn't have the only intra-state Interstates. Other notable examples include I-4, I-19, and I-97. Lastly, here's something I find amusing. In Texas, they tend to abbreviate their Interstate Highways as IH-xx instead of just I-xx, so while Hawaii has I-H2, Texas has IH-2!
@@highway2heaven91 Yes, that's just one of *four* Interstates that don't leave the state of Texas, not counting the three-digit ones. But Texas is a big state, so this isn't super surprising.
The real insult to the Interstate name is I 45 in Texas. You may want to look up Alaska's Interstates as well to better understand what the Hawaii H interstates are all about.
I-45 originally should have gone north of Dallas to Kansas City via Tulsa, then to the Canadian border on what is now I-35 with the present I-29 designated as I-35 instead
Puerto Rico also has 3 paper interstates, but only parts of one of them is a freeway. The others are just glorified commonwealth routes. All 3 of them are signed as commonwealth routes.
Another oddity is Interstate 49's northernmost segment in Kansas City. Instead of continuing up to I-70/I-35 in downtown, it terminates at the Grandview Triangle (officially named Three Trails Memorial Crossing). The Triangle is where I-435, I-49, I-470 meet. US 50 and US 71 also cross through the interchanges. The kicker about the Triangle is that the city of Grandview, Missouri is actually south of there. The Triangle is wholly within KCMO. In the 70s, the residents revolted against upgrading US 71 to an interstate. Oddly enough, there is already enough land to upgrade that stretch of 71. However, there are 3 traffic lights within a 5 mile stretch. 71 has a wide median there. The mainline lanes actually follow where the frontage roads would be in both directions. The traffic on that part of 71 is at times heavy. But, no plans to extend 49 north any time soon.
I never call that group of interchanges by its official name. I still call it the Grandview Triangle. Pretty much everyone in the metro still calls it as such. It got a huge overhaul in 2007 or so. So much better than it was. It had sharp curves and was quite dangerous. 435 east/northbound still is a bit sharp with just 2 lanes though.
@@willp.8120 yeah. We have several hot messes: the Grandview Triangle and the Johnson County Gateway (where I-435, I-35, and K-10 meet). Although K-10 doesn't directly meet with I-35. However, both southbound and northbound 35 have trailblazer shields for K-10. We also have the Alphabet Loop in downtown kcmo. If you aren't in the correct lane, you're SOL. Lol I-29 and I-435 overlap for about 3-5 miles near KCI Airport. I -635 milemarkers don't reset when crossing the state line. Then again, none of the 3di Interstates do that when crossing statelines (except for i-470). I-470 in kcmo is only 67 miles from the I-470 in Topeka. These 2 470s are not connected or related to each other.
@@DerekWitt Those Kansas suburbs are very nice. I drove the area years ago and it had a nice, new look and feel, coupled with easy travel, and a general "freedom feel" in the air. It reminded me of the America of old. Nice place. I much preferred the Kansas side to the Missouri side. It just looked a lot nicer.
@@willp.8120 I like living on the Kansas side. Wyandotte County is not bad (kck east of 65th st rough in a few places). Johnson County isn't shabby. But a few like Prairie Village (we call it Perfect Village) and Leawood have a hollier-than-thou reputation. Perhaps unfounded? Perhaps not? The only real complaint I have with the suburbs here is the roads in how they're laid out. I have to also often spell out my street name. Lol But, it's spread out and not too crammed in. Places like Lee's Summit and Liberty aren't bad eithe on the Missouri side. Lately cities here have been building apartment buildings way too quickly. I'm just praying they're not shooting themselves in the foot (as the saying goes).
Probably should have mentioned how interstate is a misnomer and their original purpose is to connect military installations. Connecting cities is mostly a side effect. Hawaii's H1 connects the now-defunct Barbers Point with Hickam AFB but contiues through Honolulu, H2 connects H1 to Schofield Barracks and Wheeler Airfield, thereforre also connect the towns of Wahiwa and Mililani, and H3 connects H1 to Marine Corps Base Hawaii, also connecting Kaneohe. H201? Not too sure why it has to be an auxiliary route, but it is.
Near my hometown of Stevensville, Michigan. I 96 or US 31 runs north up until Benton Harbor and then abruptly ends, leaving a few miles of unconnected highway to sit for about 40 years because of an endangered butterfly species. They just started construction to meet I 94 and I, I 96 and US 31 together. Not super interesting but interesting to me because it's my home. Buddies and I were able to bike a mile or so of unconnected freeway. Fun stuff
That’s nice that they’re finally finishing it. I went to WMU and my best friend lived in Baroda, so I took that road a number of times around 10 years ago. It was always peaceful to drive on since there were hardly any cars on it, especially compared to 94.
Yeah it was always weird seeing that stretch of what looks like abandoned highway running north of Napier Ave, but in actuality has never been used at all.
The thing with Interstates 375 and 175 in Florida is that they were originally suppose to extend west more into Pinellas County in the 80s with one going to St. Pete Beach or Treasure Island and the other one going to Clearwater Fl. None of those stuff never happened. Now there’s discussions on tearing down I-175 but leaving 375 which is much shorter in distance then 175 the one they want to tear down 🤦♂️
I think the plan to tear down at least one of them should move forward. I would be okay with both of them being torn down and replaced with local roads. Clearly people can drive around Pinellas County without the western extensions that never happened.
Interstate 676 through Philadelphia and Camden new jersey has a section that has a traffic light and a massive half roundabout. 676 Eastbound in Philly splits to be a ramp into i95 or continue as itself. If you continue 676E you come to a traffic light and then go 180 degrees around a big sculpture with options to get off into various small roads and also traffic merging on before it crosses over the Ben Franklin bridge into nj
How I'd make sense of the triple split of I-69: I-69 East (Brownsville) becomes an extension of I-37 with the part leading into Corpus Christi becoming a spur to it (337). Per another comment already, convert I-69 West (Laredo) to go across to Corpus Christi instead and call that I-6 (eventually it would take over I-337 above). That leaves only the McAllen branch as I-69 but does far south Texas really need two interstates to the Mexican border (maybe it does, I've never been there)?
I live near Brownsville and it’s absolutely necessary that we need an interstate, I’d consider Brownsville and McAllen area a giant metro since I know many people go to and from each other for work and college. The whole region would have a population of a little over a million. That’s bigger than corpus and Laredo metro combined
It kinda does need all those routes. Laredo is the major commercial land crossing from the US to Mexico. Brownsville has a large amount of traffic to and from. McAllen is a major originator of produce, and has needed the highway connection for a long time. Lloyd Bentson did the logical choice with access to federal money and spent money in all three directions.
A project was recently completed which completes I-95 to make it contiguous. However, they renamed the part that goes further north through PA to NJ as I-295 West/East when it is a north-south highway, and when it gets to the border at the Delaware River, it switches to North-South even though it makes a loop around Trenton, meaning on the west side, going north means using South I-295. Weird naming.
I live in St. Pete, FL, and you'll be pleased to know there is a proposal to remove 375 and shorten 175. My guess is that they're numbered as separate spur because each has 3 exits, even though you can only use them to access 275 and not each other.
Excellent video! Glad to see you channel is growing. If you do some research into MN interstates you'll find a really short one and one that was considered and never built. Ideas for your growing future.
Try I-40 through Memphis. It doesn’t actually run through Memphis because of an environmental lawsuit some 50 years ago that stopped it in its tracks. They tried to fix it about 20 years ago by re-designating the north leg of the I-240:loop as I-40 and fixing two key interchanges, while what was supposed to be the real I-40 just runs under the name Sam Cooper Blvd. (with its signature green signage in place) to the point it was stopped by the suit. I think there is still a sign along this road-to-nowhere section - or there was until very recently - saying you’re on your way to Little Rock when you’re not. You’re really just going to the zoo, albeit a very nice zoo. Psych! Then there’s what’s left of I-240 that is now called I-240 east and west, even though it actually runs more north and south for much of its distance. Or, how about the other remaining leg of I-240, which also runs north and south through town. There’s also the funky way I-55 goes through town, where you essentially exit and then get right back on - though they did finally fix this at least to some degree. It’s still not very elegant and causes quite a backup when there is the slightest amount of traffic. Oh, the area also has an operating I-269 loop, even though any meaningful I-69 is decades away from making it into the area. I almost forgot to mention the new I-22. It enters the city from the southeast but can’t connect to the main interstate system because it travels its final leg along a business route. They completed I-269 loop and connected it that way, but the connection with 269 is so far out of the way it doesn’t work well for either long or short-haulers. Check out the area. It’s full of interstate quirks.
MY favorite oddity has since been fixed unfortunately(?). For many years on west bound I 280 in Essex County New Jersey, the exit for the Eisenhower Parkway has two off ramps. The second ramp, Eisenhower Parkway South's exit, was marked "Exit Only" from the middle lane.
I think a good video series that you could do would be unfinished/incomplete/future interstates; for instance, Interstate 69 South of Indianapolis, or Interstate 74 Southwest of Cincinnati, or pretty much all of Interstate 73. There's a lot of other examples, but those are 3 that stand out. 73 and 74 are basically connected at the hip Ohio southward, so that would help any research you do. Also, with regards to oddities in the interstate system: -I-278 does not Intersect with I-78 and I-238 exists. Period. It's treated as an auxiliary of I-40 in California, as there is no I-38, but it's still signed I-238. -There's technically interstates in Alaska, but that's just for funding purposes and they aren't singed as such. Puerto Rico has interstates too, although again, just for funding purposes. -I-68 in Cumberland Maryland is very weird, having ridden through there in a car. Not quite Breezewood weird, but weird even still. -Not really an oddity with the interstate but more so a fact of West VIrginia's geography, but the WV Turnpike is the straightest road in that part of the state, and that's saying something with how many dips and curves it has. -Finally, that time I-77 and I-81 merge. You're either travelling on both I-77 South and I-81 North at the same time, or I-77 North and I-81 South at the same time. The more you know.
Pennsylvania example is a weird one. Only explanation I see is I-76 is the Pennsylvania Turnpike where they charge tolls and each spur interchange exit has a toll plaza, thus prohibiting direct freeway interchange. Similar oddities also found in Carlisle and Bedford. I wonder if you can further cover dummied freeway ramps to nowhere. Since you covered I-180, another example include Korean War Veterans Pkwy in Staten Island. Due to environmentalism concerns and protests, it ended into the streets before Brookfield Park.
I think I-69 West in southern Texas should be renumbered as I-6. I never understood what the planned southern terminus of I-69 is but I-69 West is the perfect road to be renumbered as I-6.
@@nc5958 Right, that is US59 which is a north south route. Once they upgrade interchanges it’ll be labeled 69 but it’s not an east west road maam. Laredo to Detroit is not an east/west route. 6 makes no sense
@@cjthompson420 I-69 West. Not the main north-south I-69 from Texas to Michigan currently planned/under construction in several states. I-69 West, which was mentioned in this video, is an east-west route in southern Texas and it should be renumbered as I-6.
I'm surprised that I-24 didn't make it into the Top Ten. It stretches 317 miles in a southwest diagonal direction from Southern Illinois to East Ridge, Tennessee (a Chattanooga suburb) but just before it enters the Chattanooga western city limit, it dips down from Tennessee to cross into Georgia for three miles and intersects with I-59 before crossing back into Tennessee.
I live in Rome, Georgia... and always thought that I-24 was crazy how it crosses into GA... if I'm not mistaking, I there are parts there where is good back and forth from eastern and Central time zones. Very odd indeed.
@@chadnga8 The time zones don't shift back and forth. Soon before you go into Georgia, it changes to Eastern time and stays the entire way through Chattanooga until its ending at I-75.
Something I only learned recently after it was added into the video game American Truck Simulator: All interstates (and various other major roads) entering California (and as far as I know, no other state-to-state border crossings do this) have Agricultural Inspection stops. So, almost as if you were pulling up to a toll booth, you get stopped and asked about or even searched for if you have any plants, bugs or animals in your car that they would not allow into the state (to keep invasive species and things that would harm farm crops out of California). Unlike much of today's modern toll roads though, there's no EZ-pass or toll-by-mail, so you *must* stop. I just found that weird that no one ever talks about that, considering that an interstate is something you usually think of being able to have easy and unimpeded travel on across the whole country.
@@vialtrucking I love the game and hope to some day get 100% of the roads explored, like I did with ETS 2 (although that took some cheating to get the last tiny bits)
A lot of states have these, probably more in the Southern (Sunny / agricultural) part of the USA. When I pass them they're usually closed. There was a fruit-fly outbreak in the early 1980s that had all of these stops open.
1. I-238 is an auxiliary interstate in the bay area that runs from, drumroll please, I-580 to I-80, because I-38 doesn't exist. 2. I-495 in Long Island is an auxiliary route that comes off of I-95 in NYC, except one thing, it never touches I-95. 3. Maryland has an I-195, 295, 395, 495, 595, 695, 795, and 895, but no 995. 4. I-24 runs into Georgia before entering Chattanooga, but because it re-enters Tennessee immediately after, it uses TN mile markers and it's only Georgian exit is 167. 5. The first exit on I-14 is 277 because it is supposed to extend to Odessa, TX one day. 6. I-585 is Spartanburg's 180
The only reason I-238 got its number is that at the time, all the x80 routes were in use. Since the highway was California Highway 238 upgraded, CalTrans decided to apply for I-238. California doesn't reuse highway numbers after they get removed from the system. The infamous I-480 got removed for obvious reasons . The infamous double-decker Embarcadero freeway was damaged beyond repair by the 1989 earthquake. Residents hated that highway as it was prior to the quake. Frankly, I don't blame California for tearing that highway down.
I-495 on Long Island has an interchange with I-295, but 495 should really be something like 195 since it's a spur. I-278, and all of I-78's auxiliaries in New York, on the other hand, do not meet their parent because extension plans for I-78 were cancelled.
The 2 I-580s is an interesting story too. There has long been a local interstate 580 in the bay area of California. But when my hometown of Reno, NV needed federal funding to complete a major highway connection to Carson City, the name of the local highway the federal project connected to was renamed to I-580 (from highway 395). The I-580s are hundreds of miles apart from each other, never connect, and don't even face the same way, as I-580 in California is primarily east/west whereas I-580 in Nevada in north/south. Fun times, the locals still call it 395.
One-ended spurs off an interstate use the two-digit interstate number with an odd hundred number. So there are only five possible numbers for a spur off I-80 (180, 380, 580, 780, 980), and of course they have to repeat. You just hope the repeats are far enough apart that there is no real confusion.
Routes I-73, I-74 and I-87 in North Carolina. I-73 and I-74 are waaaay out of their places in the interstate sequence and I-87 should be an east west interstate like I-42
The Breezewood situation came about because I-76 is the Pennsylvania Turnpike, which pre-dates the Interstate system. Access to the Turnpike is via Turnpike toll plazas, not interchanges with freeways like I-70.
PennDOT and PTC have had 65 years to upgrade the interchange, but they’ve decided to protect the businesses in Breezewood instead. As a matter of principle, I’ll stop in Bedford rather than Breezewood.
My favorite is when Interstates 77 and 81 merge near Wytheville VA. While going North on 77, you'll be going south on 81, and vice versa!
There's a half mile stretch of I-635 in Kansas City, Kansas where you'd be going north on 635 while going south on K-5. :)
Nevermind that I hate 635 just north of Fairfax there. It has a somewhat sharp curve before the Missouri River Bridge.
I avidly study maps and enjoy driving and that still makes me chuckle everytime I drive it. Gotta go south on 81 to head north to WV is so funny
You can go west on I-80 and east on I-580 (and vice versa) in the San Francisco Bay Area
At this very moment one of the suggested videos for me has a thumbnail that depicts signage for that pair!
Same thing happens with I-69 and I-96 in Michigan, just west of Lansing. If you are driving north, you will be on 69 East and 96 West at the same time.
Good content! The e in Laredo has an "ey" sound to it, though. I grew up in South Texas, and I always thought the I-69's made no sense.
Depends in which language. The original name is Spanish though. As many other names in that part of the world that was under Spanish rule for a few centuries.
For me, the biggest oddity is that the Carolinas have gotten away with having a measly 2-lane I-95 for so long. Often can cause killer jams around midday if you catch it at the wrong time on a roadtrip, especially if there's a rubberneck incident. This is the main corridor of the US East Coast we're talking about!
I agree, I went to Charlotte NC and the interstates were a pain. On I-85 it was 2 lanes the whole way high amounts of construction and literally no interstate lights.
Half of virginia has this issue too, once you leave Petersburg and head down farther south, it's only 2 lanes, and you don't see the third lane until lumberton, NC where you get like 4 miles of 3 lane highway, then it goes away and it properly returns once you cross the savannah river and enter Georgia
The Carolinas also have I-85 and to a minor extent, access to I-81 which serve as long range alternates for I-95.
I traveled to Charleston, SC a few times from Florida and yes, it gets pretty congested at the 2 lanes change on I-95
@@joeorebaugh4693 In order to get to I-81, you have to take I-26 through northeast Tennessee to get onto it. Or, if going up I-77, you have to drive into Virginia to get onto I-81.
The Breezewood Interchange is like that because the Pennsylvania Turnpike (the road I-70 joins to run concurrent with through much of PA) was built nearly 20 years before the Interstate Highway System. There were a lot of real weird rules and policies basically prohibiting direct interchanges between interstates and toll roads in the early days of the Interstate System. Hell a (semi) direct connection between the Turnpike and I-95 just north of Philly was just completed in 2018.
That has messed up I-295 tho, but tent road always has sucked
The Massachusetts Turnpike and Interstate 95 in Boston Massachusetts!! The section of Interstate 95 used to be called Route 128!!
The PA Turnpike "intersection" with I-81 is another example of where there isn't a direct connection between the two. Not as bad as Breezewood but plenty of trucks to slow you down.
Actually there are plenty of indirect interchanges between tollways and freeways. Examples include I-65, I-94, US-31, I-69, I-75, I-280, I-71, and I-77 between Chicago and Cleveland. Federal funds can be used to do improvements on toll road interchanges, as when modifying a simple junction to an interstate-standard interchange, but only if the section containing that interchange has its tolls removed upon the payment of the bonds on that route. For example, the Indiana Toll Road paid construction costs to upgrade the Indiana Toll Road's connection to US 27 (a simple intersection at old US 27) into another interchange when I-69 was built. Without paying for the interchange back in the 1960's the eastern-most 35 miles of Indiana Toll Road would now be freeway.
Indirect interchanges are perfectly acceptable in the Interstate system; some of those have never been tolled, such as the one between I-71 and I-76 in Ohio
That interchange between tolled/untolled highways kind of explains the anomaly that I-57 and I-294 in the Chicago area didn't have a direct connection until recently as well.
I-69 generally follows a north-south path but once you get north of Lansing, Michigan, it takes a huge turn to the East in order to get to Port Huron, MI. The signs on the highway from this point to the Canadian Border read East/West I-69 instead of the traditional North/South (since it's an odd number interstate) I-69
My closest Interstate on-ramp is e.b/w.b 69- and it's *nowhere* near Detroit lol
That’s the way it should be
Correct it's northern terminus is Port Huron not Detroit. And Indiana is slowly completing the portion in the southern part of the state
And I-94 in Port Huron travels North/South even though it's even-numbered. As someone from Ontario who only ever uses the last sections of these two interstates, it's a bit ironic.
You need to add I-4 in Florida to this video.
Here's an oddity for a future video. Interstate 99 in Pennsylvania, in addition to being out of the grid, doesn't even directly connect to the rest of the interstate system, being connected indirectly with I-76/70 on the southern end by a Breezewood, PA style interchange, and on the northern end the interstate stops at a traffic light about a third of a mile from I-80. However, there is part of I-99 that is connected directly with the system, which is in New York, connected to I-86.
Also, I-238 in California should get a mention, since there's no I-38.
It can be connected to I-68 (Cumberland MD), and it could reach Rochester, New York. The problem is that all odd numbers for Interstates between "67" and "95" were taken .
I 99 was made for 2 reasons 1 the guy who wanted it put there didn't like the the normal numbers and wanted something special for his state so he was able to get i99 but during the contraction phased it was never finished as it was supposed to go from NY down into central pa
Us 15 takes up most of the planed part of I 99 and has signs still saying future I 99 on it as it would head south on the current us 15 then west over us 230 I believe till it reaches where I 99 is today
@@MetroHam You're talking about "Bud" Shuster. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Shuster I also mentioned I-99 above. By the time it was started all the odd numbers between 90 and 100 had been taken, and because I-99 is north-south, it had to be odd.
One of the major reasons for the interstate highway system Is for national defense and the interstate highway that cuts through the center of the island of Oahu directly connects 2 military bases which was extremely important when it was planned in the 1960s.
Especially H-3 and H-201. I remember Hawaii not signing 201 for the longest time (partially due to concerns of legibility).
@@DerekWitt Depending on where you approach H201 from, it's still signed as HI-78. Most people just refer to it by name though (Moanalua Freeway).
There was an Air Force base where H-1 ends near Le`ahi (Diamond Head). On the other end, it was further extended past PHH after its original construction.
If Alaska can have interstate highways, you can extend H-1 towards Disney.
Hawaii’s Interstate System highways are explained by the seldom used full name of the system, “The Dwight D Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways.”
@@rrchapman The end of H-1 at Kahala has no military connection. There was never an Air Force base near there. The closest military location was Ft. Ruger, which consisted of the interior of Diamond Head Crater as well as an exterior portion as well, but that ceased to exist in the 1980s.
I-78 has traffic lights as it end in Jersey City, NJ as it goes into the Holland Tunnel. Also keep making these great videos!
Back in the early 60's, I-78 continued through Manhattan and to the Belt Parkway. Obviously the Belt Parkway isn't interstate standard so eventually I-78 was terminated in Jersey City. This explains how there is a I-678 and I-878 miles from I-78.
@@thecardsaysmoops3 or was planned to; it didn't get that far due to revolts
In general, if you see an interstate that goes to a whole lot of nothing or just seems unnecessary, it means that there were most likely plans for it to extend farther/be larger than it ended up being. One example is I-189 in Burlington, VT.
There were also plans for an I-289 which would've branched off just north of the Richmond interchange, gone through Essex and Williston with direct access to the then-IBM campus and end at VT-127 in Colchester. Only the portion between Routes 117 and 2A in Essex, and an extension to Susie Wilson Rd. to meet at the latter, were ever built and after a decade or so it was downloaded and re-signposted as VT state route 289.
Which end do you mean? because one end of I-89 is the interchange with 93 in Concord and the other is the Canadian border
@@VulcanTrekkie45 189, not 89
@@NoTimeForNoodles Oh that makes more sense. Misread that
There's I-195 in Maine that goes from Saco to...Saco...
Slight misconception-the term “interstate” actually refers to its funding, as interstates are funded by a combination of multiple state governments and federal money, rather than state highways that are funded purely by the state they’re in. While it’s up to each state’s DOT to maintain the roads, the initial money for constructing them came from several different sources, hence the name interstate. There are plenty of “intrastate” interstates like I-45, I-4, I-2, and I-12, all that received federal funding. The Hawaii ones are just the same, only they have an H in front due to the fragmented nature of the state away from the mainland.
Additionally, Alaska and Puerto Rico have their own Intrastate Interstates. Just Like Hawaii, They have letters in the names of the highways too.
But, unlike Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico interstates are not signed as interstates.
@@stephenplatt5048 Actually, the Puerto Rico ones are signed as interstates... sort of. They use the ordinary "major highway" solid blue shield used for other highways in Puerto Rico, but with a small sign above that says "INT" which stands for "interstate." Oddly, through, they're signed as INT-1, INT-2, and INT-3, even though they're officially designated Interstates PR1, PR2, and PR3.
Add New York's I-87 to your list. Never leaves the state.
The term interstate (as a regular adjective, not a name) means that it spans multiple states, not that it's federally funded. You might be able to stretch the definition and say that certain Interstate highways receive interstate funding and maintenance as well as federal funding, but that is still not the case for the Hawaiian highways. Of course the Interstate highway system as a whole does span multiple states, so I still don't think the name is necessarily a misnomer, but so do the federal highways which if I'm not mistaken are funded and maintained in a similar fashion.
When you look at the full name of the Interstate system (Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways) and think about the system as a means of national defense, it actually makes perfect sense why Hawaii has Interstates.
Hawaii's Interstates connect all of the major military installations on O'ahu. I-H1 runs from near the Coast Guard station at Barbers Point to the Hawaii National Guard base near Diamond Head, and passes by Joint Base Pearl Harbor Hickam. I-H2 is an offshoot of I-H1 and ends near Wheeler Army Airfield and Schofield Barracks. I-H3 is another offshoot of I-H1 which ends at Marine Corps Base Hawaii.
This makes me think the main reason that I-90 goes through Spokane is _not_ that Spokane is a major city, but that area has Fairchild AFB.
Good points... thanks for pointing that out.
@@notmuch_23 the I-81 in NY connects Syracuse to Canada and in just north of Watertown they built 781 as effectively Fort Drum's driveway. (Its a combination Air force & Army base)
The interstate is originally intended for national defense and they just let us drive on it. Granted an obsession happened in the 60s with building them in places they don't belong and to clear "urban blight" (poor nieghborhoods).
In the early days of the interstate system there used to be multiple suffixed Interstate routes. I-76 in NE-CO used to be I-80S, I-82 in WA-OR used to be I-80N, and I-76 in Ohio used to be I-80S as well. There's also an officially designated I-480N in Cleveland, Ohio, but is only signed as such on mile markers.
The old I-80N was actually the current I-84 which runs from Portland through Boise to Ogden. I-82 in Eastern Washington and Oregon has always been I-82. That's why there appears to be a sequential anomaly (I-82 north of I-84) but it was correct under the original highway numbers.
And Dallas/Fort worth and Minneapolis/St Paul kept them because none of them wanted to be the bypassed city 🤦♂️
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv I-70 S (I-270) went to DC and I-70 N Baltimore city.
@@toborobo Fun fact -- What is now the western I-84 was originally numbered I-82, and what is now I-82 wasn't marked down as an Interstate corridor at the time (1956). The original I-82 even had a split terminus, with the western I-86 labeled as I-82N and I-84 labeled as I-82S. However, 82S only ran to Tremonton, UT at a junction with I-15. It wasn't until a small section of current I-84 was added between Riverdale and Echo that the road became I-80N the entire way to Portland.
In my mind, this is where AASHO screwed up. This I-80N was the longest suffixed interstate in the system, at almost 800 miles. It should have stayed as I-82, with I-82N becoming I-86 (like it is today) and current I-82 becoming I-88, both of which were available at the time of the change (1958). Alternatively, I personally think it's criminal that Portland, a major West Coast city, doesn't merit an I-x0 interstate; Portland should have been I-80's western terminus, with San Francisco getting an elongated I-70.
One of my favorite quirks is the junction of I-215, I-515, and I-11 in Las Vegas. They all start/end at the same interchange, which is bizarre. I remember being confused by that while driving through that area.
The north end of I-476 ends in a big u-turn feeding into three separate trumpet interchanges, all in the name of collecting tolls.
BRO I just found out about the interchange today, yea it’s weird. I was looking at the huge viaduct connecting to it and I found out about it. Apparently they fixing it up and making it better, so that’s good
I imagine that when I-11 is built all the way through the Vegas metro area and extended to Carson City that I-515 signage will disappear. US 93 will probably be truncated to start northeast of Vegas at I-15. I-215 and CR-215 should be redesignated with a rerouted US-95 that goes along the western and southern flanks of the Vegas Valley through Henderson. That would clear up that interchange quite nicely from the mess of signage it is now. Then again, it's only one scenario for US-95. I don't know what's in store for that route when I-11 comes into its own.
You forgot I-40 around the TN/NC border where it goes thru the mountains. Its 55mph, curvy, tiny shoulders, dangerous as hell. Every 2-3 years there is a rock slide that blocks one or both sides of the road for a few weeks. Honestly though its an impressive feat of engineering considering the terrain.
It's very interesting to see every once in a while lol. It's one of the only things that I like about NC that is amazing. Even then I think the 55 mph is too arbitrary since depending on traffic you could go 70 there
The old I 84 and I 87 interchange in Newburgh, NY used to be like that. Had to get off the highway to go on a state route for 100 yards and then can get on the other interstate.
About 15 years ago they redid the entire thing
I-176 in Pennsylvania (between the PA Turnpike/I-76 in Morgantown and US 422 near Reading) was the same way: you had to get off onto PA Rt. 10 and go into Morgantown (near the Berks/Chester County Line) just to get to I-176 at a traffic light. Eventually, both the PA Turnpike Commission and the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (PennDOT) built a new alignment of I-176 to allow a direct connection to the PA Turnpike.
Then again, Pennsylvania is also home to another "Breezewood Interstate", as I-676 has to use a stretch of local streets in Philadelphia to get to New Jersey, via the Ben Franklin Bridge (something that couldn't be avoided as it would have destroyed Franklin Square, which not only it was supposed to be where Franklin conducted his famous kite experiment, but also served as a Potter's Field).
i live in walden near newburgh, I had no idea that the junction was like that 15 yrs ago
I remember that, I used to live in Albany and it sucked to get on I84 when it was like that
Yep it was finally completed in 2009. Being in Kingston NY I've traversed that prior to its completion with a proper ramp system.
4:31 No it won't it's been confirmed by the Arizona Department of transportation that when I-19's sign's are replaced (which could happen soon given the new infrastructure bill) it will be in miles
LOVE THESE VIDEOS! My favorite oddity is interstate 93 in northern New Hampshire, more specifically the Franconia notch. It becomes a super two parkway. Also, only five states base most of their exits on a sequential basis rather than by mile marker, and they are New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire.
Always thought it odd that road can actually be called an interstate. Thought they had to have at least 2 lanes in each direction
@@yabbadabba2887 That is the standard, I-93 has it waived for that section.
Not for long. Connecticut's transitioning to mile based and so is Rhode Island. Vermont now cosigns exit number with milepoint number.
Up until the mid-80s, I-93 ended on either side of Franconia Notch, and extending it through was hugely controversial because building a full 4-lane highway with Interstate-standard grades and curves would have been caused huge environmental damage to one of the most scenic locations in NH. The two-lane parkway was the resulting compromise.
It's because the other states are slow slow to update their sigbs despite legally they have to switch
The Breezewood junction in Pennsylvania isn't that odd when you consider the PA Turnpike was built in 1940 before the Interstate system. The interchanges connected to US highways in town, which spawned all the gas stations and hotels. Only in the past 20-30 years have links been built from interstate to interstate. Up until the early 1990's to continue on I-76 in King of Prussia through to Philadelphia you had to exit and go on local streets for a bit. I wonder if the local businesses that would be bypassed by a direct link exerted some political power to keep direct links from being built.
Local businesses and the mountains have stood as barriers to remedying the Breezewood situation.
Also, since at first the government wouldn't fund toll roads, the Turnpike Commission refused to build new interstates that they thought might be unwanted competition.
To correct you, as I am a lifelong resident of Southeastern Pennsylvania, the PA Turnpike's "Philadelphia Extension" (going from Carlisle to Valley Forge and King of Prussia) ended at where the present-day I-76 intersects with US 202, continuing on into Philadelphia as the infamous (and pre-Interstate) Schuylkill Expressway. The "Delaware River Extension" (I-276), going from Valley Forge (which was rebuilt as a trumpet interchange) to the Delaware River Bridge to New Jersey, is the section of the PA Turnpike that did not have a direct connection to I-95 when the latter was built in the 1960s. This was due to existing Federal laws in place, and required one to either exit at the Bensalem interchange (US 1) or the Delaware Valley interchange (US 13). When Congress passed legislation in 1982 that allowed the State of New Jersey to cancel the Somerset Freeway (which would have built a stretch of I-95 from Trenton to I-287 near Somerset, with I-95 becoming part of the NJ Turnpike at the Metuchen-Edison exit), the legislation required that I-95 be rerouted into NJ, via a direct connection to the PA Turnpike near Bristol. That is the new interchange that was opened in 2018, closing the most notorious gap in the Interstate Highway System.
@@rwboa22 The PA turnpike in that section was also realigned in the 60's or so to bypass two tunnels in that area. The reason why the "ramp" to breezewood is so long is that ramp was part of the original turnpike alignment prior to it being realigned
There's also a photo of the Kansas Turnpike pavement ending abruptly at the Oklahoma state line near Winfield in 1956.
It's a hilarious image to behold. But the Kansas Turnpike predates the Interstate Highway Systems, albeit by only a few years.
You forgot interstate 99, it's supposed to be east of interstate 95 but it's not it's in the middle of Pennsylvania. The reason is because one congressman REALLY wanted I99 to be in their state and Congress specifically made an exemption for this interstate in the highway code just so he could have it
Ah yes the Bud Schuster Expressway.
I have always thought of this one ad the Bud Schuster Memorial Freeway!😁
There's also the fact that US-15 in New York from Painted Post to the PA state line was recently given the I-99 designation, thus creating a section of I-99 separated from the rest of it.
Not that odd considering lots of interstates are not where they should be. Parts of the future 69 are west of 45, 82 is further north than 84, and parts of 15 will be well west of where 11 will be. Not to mention 238 in the Bay Area, The numbering is just a guide, and as long as the route is in the general area logic would dictate... now if 99 were in Idaho, that would be weird.
Corruption at its finest
I-97 in Maryland is not only in a single state, it's all within a single COUNTY. Also, there should be a whole video on wrong-way concurrencies. I think you covered the most notorious one (77-81 in SW Virginia) , but there are certainly others such as on i-376 just south on the Ft. Pitt Tunnels.
I 97 should really be a three digit interstate, along with I 12 and I 86 west
In North Carolina, I-73 and I-85 are also a wrong way concurrency.
@@tonywalters7298 I-97 should just be MD 3, as it formerly was before they added the southern extension of the expressway that goes toward Annapolis.
One of my favorite oddities in the Interstate system is how I-75 and I-85 merge in Atlanta into one highway to run north-south through downtown. The weird part is how the merged section also doubles as a crossing: at the north end of I-75-85, I-75 splits off to the northwest to go to Chattanooga, while I-85 splits off to the northeast to go to The Carolina’s; at the south end, I85 splits to the southwest to go to Alabama, while I-75 splits off to the southeast to pass the Hartsfield International Airport and go through Macon and down through Florida.
And ironically, the bypass I-475 around the western edge of Macon is shorter than the path through Macon.
That atlanta crossing. /shudder...
I-475 was intended to actually be the route for 1-75. Macon leaders were upset that the interstate was bypassing Macon, so they lobbied to have it come through Macon.
Yes! The 75/85 "connector" in downtown Atlanta always confused me when I lived there. Especially on the north side where 75 & 85 split. Looking at a map, 75 goes nw and 85 ne, but on the actually split , the traffic lanes that lead to 75 are on the RIGHT side of the road and the lanes leading to 85, are on the LEFT! Soooo many people get that confused, and they're is no easy way to backtrack to get on the intended intestate.
@@mocowan6642 But, the overwhelming majority of traffic to Florida moves onto I-475 until south of Macon. It even reads "Bypass to Valdosta". The I-75 section through Macon is four lanes instead of six lanes like I-475. It is also not kept up as well. Pretty much, the most of the traveling traffic that goes on that stretch of I-75 are people who want to get to Savannah or I-95 by way of I-16. South of the I-75/I-16 junction, it's pretty much local traffic until it merges with I-75.
@@chadnga8 I have a few of those "Oh crap! I'm in the wrong lane!" moments every time I drive through Atlanta. I-285 gets me when I somehow go from the far right lane to the far left, even though I never actually change lanes. At least I remembered the I-85 North quirk this time, and managed to fight my way over to a correct lane in time.
I-75 through Macon was not fun when I used to drive over there. The scariest part was always going from I-75 North to I-16, where I would drive around a sharp curve and immediately run into(almost literally)traffic backed up at the first exit. I haven't been there in many years, so hopefully it has been improved, but I don't think there was room to do much.
In downtown Cleveland I-90 makes a sharp 90° turn where you have to slow all the way down to 35 mph, it’s known as dead man’s curve locally. Always seemed strange to me that a major interstate would make such a sharp turn out of nowhere and i’ve yet to see a similar instance anywhere else in the US.
Yeah, don't get me started on the whole Breezewood situation! Lol! I grew up about 20 minutes away from there, in the 90s! Believe me, that area is a nightmare! The reason I-70 doesn't directly connect to I-76, is because I-76 is the PA Turnpike and is a toll road! The Turnpike was originally constructed in the 1930s and 1940s, and I-70 much later! That whole area definitely has some interesting history! I think you should check into the PA Turnpike history, you could probably make some great content with that! By the way, keep up the great videos!
2:28: A lot of interchanges on the Pennsylvania Turnpike look like this - this design allows there to only be one tollboth for the entire interchange, regardless of what direction you're going! Maybe less important now that human toll collectors have been eliminated...
4:47: Hawaii isn't "dumb"; the interstate system is funded by the federal government, so having interstates lets Hawaii take advantage of that funding. But that requires them to use the interstate branding for those roads.
Your final sentence is not accurate. Alaska and Puerto Rico get their share of Interstate Highway funding, and certain roads are designated as Interstates A1 through A4 and PR1 through PR3 for administrative and funding purposes, but they are not signed as such, as Hawaii has chosen to do.
Yes you described a trumpet interchange. The difference is I 70 West dumps onto US 30 at a traffic light. Then you go through more intersections before taking the on ramp to continue onto I 70 West.
Running immediately south of downtown St. Paul for several miles, the posted speed limit for 35E is only 45mph. I believe it is the slowest interstate highway speed limit in the US. Locals call it the "practice freeway!"
Oh wow, they raised it to 45?
Tied with I-55 in downtown Memphis, then...
I 95 Cross Bronx Expwy is 40 mph.
I 93 through the big dig tunnels of Boston is 45 mph
I-68 through Cumberland, MD is only 40 mph. The highway is on a bridge going through the city with sharp curves and very short on & off ramps.
An interesting oddity in my town Kingston NY is the home of the 7th smallest Interstate (and 5th smallest signed Interstate), I-587. It's 1.4 miles long with no exists and is also dual signed as NY Rt. 28 and starts and ends into two roundabouts.
This was the first of your videos I have watched and I love all of the weird stuff you dug up! My only feedback is it is too quick to understand each point so if you continued to show the map you are discussing instead of switching to your clip of the beaver with the earth, we would get more time to understand your amazing points. Keep up the great work!!
I've been on that I-70 interchange!! Being in Maryland, I took it traveling to Cedar Point and I was SO CONFUSED. I literally had no clue why the GPS took me off the highway, just to get back on, but I never thought much more about it until this video lmao
Here's one in my parts - Interstate 275 in Knoxville, Tennessee has a very heavy "kink" between the Heiskell Ave Exit and the Oldham Ave/W Woodland Ave exits instead of just going straight through. That's because when it was built there was a very large Norfolk Southern railyard in the planned route. With them having significant power and play so-to-say, I-275 was rerouted to have said kink in the layout as not to disturb the railyard.
I-93 in New Hampshire is one lane between the White Mountains. I believe this is the only section of interstate highways that is only one lane.
Thanks for the comment, this is actually super interesting!
Yeah its through Franconia Notch state park. Live about an hour and a half south of there, speed limit is pretty low to its 40 mph if I'm remembering correctly.
I-70 just east of Wheeling is one lane in each direction. It goes through a mountain.
@@matts7019 I was recently driving through Baton Rouge. It was multiple lanes the whole way through, maybe for a few years it was while they did bridge work?
@@schalitz1 Might be the case. Haven't been there in a long time but I've heard complaints from people 8n the area about it being 1 lane. Might have been an eternal roadwork project.
Amen on Breezewood! I always felt they should add legalized gambling there--if anywhere. It already has the bright lights and hotel rooms. But it shouldn't have interstate traffic pushed through it. In fact, I'd like to see I-68 should be extended west, its Cumberland, MD leg rerouted, and I-70 be given that new way west along the "National Freeway." Another place along I-76 that makes one interstate (I-81) use a traffic-laden street is in Carlisle, PA. It's long overdue for I-76 to be toll-free and "opened up." The traffic on it is is strikingly low because the fares (and access) are issues.
your lisp is endearing. i had a friend back in kid times who had a lisp just like that. good memories. you chose the perfect animal mascot to represent the voice. great channel and vid man. love stinkpieces on the highway system
I-10, a cross country major route swings down to New Orleans in Louisiana, where I-12 forms a by pass that is 30 miles or more, shorter than staying on I-10 all the way. Same thing happens in the city of New Orleans proper, where I-610 creates a shortcut to I-10, saving 4-5 miles by taking the I-610 shortcut instead of staying on I-10.
This is one thing I really wish they'd decided differently back when my parents were kids. I-10 should just follow what they called I-12, and I-59 should extend south to New Orleans. The other part of I-10 just northwest of New Orleans probably would have been I-10S in this scenario, and later changed to I-110 or I-6 or something.
Same with I-70/670 in Kansas City or I-75/475 in Macon, GA
I-310 and I-510 in metro New Orleans which by themselves don't really make a lot of sense originally were supposed to be part of I-410, a southern beltway that was going to go through suburbs or swamp but for some reason was cancelled
@Moderate Railfan I think it might have been too long to be a beltway but then again there’s I-235 in KS and I-670 in MD.
@@VidNudistKid Or continue I-55 to New Orleans proper.
I'm a truck driver, and I've hit every single inch of interstate, so this channel immediately got my follow 🙏🏾
I knew an Alex Martinez I grew up in church with and went to high school with at Houston, MO. Is that you?
@@fredmckinney8933 Definitely not, i was born, and raised in NYC, Fred 🙏🏾
@@Martinezalex007 Ah...been there, in college, when we marched in the Macy's Parade in 1988.
@@fredmckinney8933 Jesus, i was told NY was a cesspool in those times. I'm only 24, so that's like ancient times to me, no offense
All of them? Damn, that's impressive if true...
I’ve traveled via New Stanton a number of times over the years and as discombobulated as it is, you get fairly used to it in short order.
All 4 of the Interstate 180’s have some quirks:
You nailed the Wyoming one.
The one in Pennsylvania is signed east-west for it’s entire route even though half of the route runs
north-south. The other interesting part is that the exit numbers go up as you go east and down as you go west, which is not the standard format.
And the ones in Nebraska and Illinois both have exit numbers that go down as you go north and go up as you go south, which is not the standard format.
That Breezewood interchange is sooo weird. They totally Coulda done a real interchange
Especially since the "official" pathway of I-70 *crosses over itself* about 3/4 mile south of Breezewood.
The worst part about the Breezewood connection is that it's a 90 degree turn, so you can't even merge smoothly onto the interstate. You're forced to come to a stop or at least slow down below 20 mph. I'm guessing they know it will affect the local economy if they fix it, but it was just a really stupid idea.
Love this stuff! Anything to do with geography! Great job, perhaps you could do a feature on the toll roads in the United States I think that would be really interesting! You know something like shortest, longest, cheapest so on and so forth!
Great video. I'd loke to see some more follow through concerning WHY these oddities ended up the way they did. Keep up the great work!
Corruption? In Illinois? That has literally never happened at any other time in the history of the state.
In Castaic CA, and Charlotte, NC the interstate crosses over and drives on the left. In Castaic, it is due the grading requirements to climb the south side of the Grapevine connecting the central valley to Los Los Angeles Basin. In Charlotte, it is to accommodate a rest stop.
I-78 is unique in that none of its child routes (I-678, I-278, and unsigned I-478) connect to the parent route.
The original plan was for I-78 to go straight through Manhattan and cross Brooklyn toward JFK airport. When I was a kid, the parallel eastbound highway spur off Belt Pkwy approaching the airport was labeled I-78. It was changed to NY 878 later since it was clear I-78 would not be built. If it were, then all of these would have connected.
Interstate 93 through Franconia Notch in New Hampshire is the only stretch of interstate that is a single lane in each direction, with a 45 MPH speed limit. This is so it doesn't have too much of an environmental impact on the Notch area.
Both I 70 quirks are because one of the segments are paid toll roads. A straight simple interchange would lead to backups on the main non toll highway. The longer oval like curve that crosses itself allows for less backups. While the one that goes on the main road in town had to also consider the terrain and lack of space. While some backups occur, imagine having to put the toll booth in right past the on ramp from town. Backups would likely bring thevtiwn to a standstill
And double trumpet interchanges are common on toll roads because they could use one toll facility to handle all directions
good videos bro keep doing what you’re doing!
Thanks, will do!
Up until 2002, I-865 in Boone County, Indiana was designated as I-465, so there was a time when I-465 intersected with itself.
Also, if you ever plan on doing a video of interstates that were planned but never built, there's I-165 in Indianapolis.
I also spoke with a student from IU that said I-465 and the interchange with what is now I-865 is used as an example of how not to build interstates. How the original idea was that every interstate needed two "end points." That mindset has since been long abandoned. As beltways, such as I-485 in Charlotte, has no "end points," as it is a continuous beltway.
Also at one time, I-369 was purposed as well.
I-69 was originally going to connect to I65/I70 in downtown Indianapolis following binford blvd.
@@Dratchev241 I may be wrong in this, but I believe US31 from Indianapolis north to Michigan was going to be I-67 in the early planning stages of the Interstate Highway System.
@@joshroller9449 i believe that is correct, I do know I-69 was to connect in downtown Indianapolis at the 65/70 north split, you can actually see the ramps that were made for it in sat view. 69 was to run north a bit before going northeast on binford. US-31 is currently being upgraded and will likely become I-67 sometime in the future, only a few spots for them left to finish in northern Indiana.
I-10 in Baton Rouge narrows to one lane and it isn’t because of construction; it’s simply designed that way. This is the only stretch of interstate in the US that does this.
69 W/C/E is because Congress mandated the specific number 69 on a path with those three branches, so AASHTO's (the organization that usually decides Interstate and US route numbers) hands were tied. That same legislation also said that I-94 between Chicago and Detroit is *also* Interstate 69 for some reason, but since it's already built and that's a pretty stupid stipulation, nobody really cares if IDOT, InDOT, and MDOT just never get around to signing that part of I-69.
The designation of I-94 as I-69 sounds like a stupid thing for Congress to mandate since I-69 already reaches Port Huron through Lansing and Flint
@@edwardmiessner6502 you say that as if Congress has never done anything stupid before
Keep up the great content man!
Appreciate it!
Another oddity is where I-77 and I-83 meet in Virginia. The two interstates are merged but one is labelled "North" and the other "South".
Correction: It's "north" I-77 and "south" I-81 in Virginia.
@@pzdf8v Yep I just moved from NY to TN and had to drive that section: very odd
@@pzdf8v It’s called a wrong way concurrency. You see this on I-80 after the bay bridge.
Another weird situation that people don’t talk about is I-94. It’s normal at first, but once you get to Milwaukee, I-94 starts heading south to avoid Lake Michigan. But the signs are signed for I-94 EAST/WEST. They could have just terminated I-94 in Milwaukee and had the remaining portions Re numbered. I-94s portion where it heads south to Chicago could had been replaced by a longer I-41. Also they should rename I-94 in Indiana and Michigan I-86 or I-98.
I-84 and I-91 around Hartford Connecticut is interesting. Mostly because of the number of spur routes or bypasses that were planned then canceled. You can still see some evidence of this today. Canceled interstates: I-291(partially built), I-284,I-484,I-494 and I-82 to providence, RI. Along with a whole number of state highways planned then canceled.
As I understand it I-84 was headed to Providence, part of that alignment is I-384 today. The current I-84 that goes to Sturbridge was I-86 until the 1980's.
We just used the Breezewood I-70 I-76 nightmare and boy... was it a nightmare. We were thrown completely off guard by it and since we were pulling a 30 foot long camper it was absolute hell. I have no idea why the didn't just make it an interchange!!!
Not really having anything to do with interstates, but with a regular US route... I think Route 3 in Massachusetts is so weird. US Route 3 terminates in Boston, but then Massachusetts Route 3 takes its place throughout the rest of its trip to Cape Cod. What's even weirder is that US Route 3 and Massachusetts Route 3 are considered the same highway by MassDOT. So US Route 3's mileage signs continue off of where MA Route 3's mileage signs left off.
Another example is U.S. 33 with a southern terminus in Richmond, VA. That number continues as VA primary 33 through to West Point, at the western edge of the York River.
One oddity is that Texas has four instances of Exit 0 (zero). There is one in each direction on Interstate 10 and another pair on Interstate 40, both extremely close to the boundaries with New Mexico.
3:27 Finally! Someone has mentioned I-175 and 375, basically glorified exit ramps.
I-74 starts in the Quad Cities and ends in Cincinnati, OH but then suddenly pops up in North Carolina in 3 random sections: one that goes around Mount Air near the Virginia border, one that starts near Winston-Salem and goes south to near Ellerbe, and one in between Maxton and Lumberton. and some of these stretches are part of state routes that just become interstates.
Supposedly, whenever I-74 is finally completed, it will meet I-77 somewhere in West Virginia, then run concurrently with I-77 all through Virginia and into North Carolina, where it currently splits from I-77 in Mt. Airy. Then it would feed into U.S. 52 on a stretch currently labeled as "Future I-74 Corridor." In Winston-Salem construction is currently in progress on a road that will split I-74 from U.S. 52 and head south to connect with the next completed piece (Exit 196 off I-40 on what was formerly U.S. 311 until that route was truncated). That piece then feeds into I-73 and those two interstates run together for a while. The third and final piece is in southeastern NC and will supposedly extend into SC ending near Myrtle Beach.
Interstate 64 in Virginia Beach, at the end of the road it's going opposite direction. 😳
Don’t for get about Alaska’s and Puerto Rico’s intra state interstate highways that don’t fully conform to standards.
I-70 through Glenwood Canyon in Colorado is double-decked for some stretches as the canyon was too narrow to allow for four full lanes to be laid down. Also, when it was built, a bike/recreation path was designed into it from the beginning.
I live in St. Petersburg and I could never really understand the reason for I-175 and 375. It's only another mile to get on to the interstate without it.
Both roads were planned for expansion west of I-275.
@@DTD110865unfortunately that would’ve cut thru so many neighborhoods and leave many ppl out of their homes so that idea was canned due to protests.
@@sm4shv3v0 And traffic has become worse as a result, as it did in other parts of the country.
Interstate 78 traverses a pair of one-way streets in Jersey City, NJ, between the eastern end of the NJ Turnpike’s Newark Bay extension and the Holland Tunnel. I-78 does not end in Jersey City, but rather continues through several traffic lights and through the Holland Tunnel, ending across the river in New York.
Another more Egregious Intrastate Interstate is I-97 Which is only in MD between US-50 in Annapolis and I-895 outside of Baltimore
Exactly. I don't see why they couldn't instead run I-70 down the I-695 bypass down the west and south sides of the metro area and instead make that part of I-70.
I think I-97 is the shortest interstate in the system. Crazy that it has a separate designation rather than a spur designation.
@@pepawg2281 No, I think that designation goes to I 370
I travel through the town of Breezewood when I travel to Niagara Falls. I always just end up turning left on US RT 30. Another interstate junction mess is I-70/I-76 and I-99 just north of Bedford, PA. If you want to go from either interstate you have to exit off the interstates to US RT 220 and get back on the interstate you need to get onto. That's why in Breezewood, I turn left onto US RT 30 because there is an interchange between RT 30 and I-99.
Hawaii is allowed to have "Interstate" highways because they serve interstate commerce (a.k.a. tourism). Actually, I-H3 is more about national defense, but that's always been another stated purpose of the Interstate system. Also note that I-H201 only got designated as such in the last 20 years; the road itself already existed under a state highway designation.
Alaska and Puerto Rico have Interstate highways too, they're just not signed. Also the ones in Alaska don't have to be built to freeway standards.
I'd also like to point out that Hawaii doesn't have the only intra-state Interstates. Other notable examples include I-4, I-19, and I-97.
Lastly, here's something I find amusing. In Texas, they tend to abbreviate their Interstate Highways as IH-xx instead of just I-xx, so while Hawaii has I-H2, Texas has IH-2!
Don't forget I-45
@@highway2heaven91 Yes, that's just one of *four* Interstates that don't leave the state of Texas, not counting the three-digit ones. But Texas is a big state, so this isn't super surprising.
@@VidNudistKid I-16 is a smaller state example
@@highway2heaven91 Yep-- goes from Macon to Savannah on the other side of the state.
In Wisconsin there are 2 spots where 3 interstates run concurrently. North of Madison 39/90/94. Southern Milwaukee 41/43/894.
The real insult to the Interstate name is I 45 in Texas.
You may want to look up Alaska's Interstates as well to better understand what the Hawaii H interstates are all about.
and I 27 in Texas
I-45 originally should have gone north of Dallas to Kansas City via Tulsa, then to the Canadian border on what is now I-35 with the present I-29 designated as I-35 instead
I-87 in New York
Puerto Rico also has 3 paper interstates, but only parts of one of them is a freeway. The others are just glorified commonwealth routes. All 3 of them are signed as commonwealth routes.
You should make a video on the former discontinuity of I-95 on the East Coast and how it was just recently changed.
Another oddity is Interstate 49's northernmost segment in Kansas City. Instead of continuing up to I-70/I-35 in downtown, it terminates at the Grandview Triangle (officially named Three Trails Memorial Crossing). The Triangle is where I-435, I-49, I-470 meet. US 50 and US 71 also cross through the interchanges. The kicker about the Triangle is that the city of Grandview, Missouri is actually south of there. The Triangle is wholly within KCMO.
In the 70s, the residents revolted against upgrading US 71 to an interstate. Oddly enough, there is already enough land to upgrade that stretch of 71. However, there are 3 traffic lights within a 5 mile stretch. 71 has a wide median there. The mainline lanes actually follow where the frontage roads would be in both directions.
The traffic on that part of 71 is at times heavy. But, no plans to extend 49 north any time soon.
I never call that group of interchanges by its official name. I still call it the Grandview Triangle. Pretty much everyone in the metro still calls it as such.
It got a huge overhaul in 2007 or so. So much better than it was. It had sharp curves and was quite dangerous.
435 east/northbound still is a bit sharp with just 2 lanes though.
For Kansas City area's size, they do have a lot of freeways.
@@willp.8120 yeah. We have several hot messes: the Grandview Triangle and the Johnson County Gateway (where I-435, I-35, and K-10 meet).
Although K-10 doesn't directly meet with I-35. However, both southbound and northbound 35 have trailblazer shields for K-10.
We also have the Alphabet Loop in downtown kcmo. If you aren't in the correct lane, you're SOL. Lol
I-29 and I-435 overlap for about 3-5 miles near KCI Airport.
I -635 milemarkers don't reset when crossing the state line. Then again, none of the 3di Interstates do that when crossing statelines (except for i-470).
I-470 in kcmo is only 67 miles from the I-470 in Topeka. These 2 470s are not connected or related to each other.
@@DerekWitt Those Kansas suburbs are very nice. I drove the area years ago and it had a nice, new look and feel, coupled with easy travel, and a general "freedom feel" in the air. It reminded me of the America of old. Nice place. I much preferred the Kansas side to the Missouri side. It just looked a lot nicer.
@@willp.8120 I like living on the Kansas side. Wyandotte County is not bad (kck east of 65th st rough in a few places).
Johnson County isn't shabby. But a few like Prairie Village (we call it Perfect Village) and Leawood have a hollier-than-thou reputation. Perhaps unfounded? Perhaps not?
The only real complaint I have with the suburbs here is the roads in how they're laid out. I have to also often spell out my street name. Lol But, it's spread out and not too crammed in. Places like Lee's Summit and Liberty aren't bad eithe on the Missouri side.
Lately cities here have been building apartment buildings way too quickly. I'm just praying they're not shooting themselves in the foot (as the saying goes).
Probably should have mentioned how interstate is a misnomer and their original purpose is to connect military installations. Connecting cities is mostly a side effect. Hawaii's H1 connects the now-defunct Barbers Point with Hickam AFB but contiues through Honolulu, H2 connects H1 to Schofield Barracks and Wheeler Airfield, thereforre also connect the towns of Wahiwa and Mililani, and H3 connects H1 to Marine Corps Base Hawaii, also connecting Kaneohe. H201? Not too sure why it has to be an auxiliary route, but it is.
Also in Hennepin, there was a steel plant there that made steel for the government, not a power plant
Yeah, I watched a video he made a few days ago that said the steel plant. Think the beaver just made an oopsie and said power plant
Also I must say I'm loving these videos. You're doing great
I-5 between Portland OR and Vancouver WA is a drawbridge. The entire interstate lifts for barge traffic on the Columbia River. Kinda weird.
Same with 495 east beltway around DC
I literally subcribed about 2 hours before this was posted so you could image my surprise when I saw you uploaded 1hour ago
Near my hometown of Stevensville, Michigan. I 96 or US 31 runs north up until Benton Harbor and then abruptly ends, leaving a few miles of unconnected highway to sit for about 40 years because of an endangered butterfly species. They just started construction to meet I 94 and I, I 96 and US 31 together. Not super interesting but interesting to me because it's my home. Buddies and I were able to bike a mile or so of unconnected freeway. Fun stuff
That’s nice that they’re finally finishing it. I went to WMU and my best friend lived in Baroda, so I took that road a number of times around 10 years ago. It was always peaceful to drive on since there were hardly any cars on it, especially compared to 94.
Yeah it was always weird seeing that stretch of what looks like abandoned highway running north of Napier Ave, but in actuality has never been used at all.
Dam, you grew quick. I remember watching when you were at like 400 subs
I-238 in Ashland, CA (in the East Bay) is not named after I-38, instead it is named after State Route 238
You are growing by the day. Keep it up man.
The thing with Interstates 375 and 175 in Florida is that they were originally suppose to extend west more into Pinellas County in the 80s with one going to St. Pete Beach or Treasure Island and the other one going to Clearwater Fl. None of those stuff never happened. Now there’s discussions on tearing down I-175 but leaving 375 which is much shorter in distance then 175 the one they want to tear down 🤦♂️
I think the plan to tear down at least one of them should move forward. I would be okay with both of them being torn down and replaced with local roads. Clearly people can drive around Pinellas County without the western extensions that never happened.
Interstate 676 through Philadelphia and Camden new jersey has a section that has a traffic light and a massive half roundabout. 676 Eastbound in Philly splits to be a ramp into i95 or continue as itself. If you continue 676E you come to a traffic light and then go 180 degrees around a big sculpture with options to get off into various small roads and also traffic merging on before it crosses over the Ben Franklin bridge into nj
How I'd make sense of the triple split of I-69: I-69 East (Brownsville) becomes an extension of I-37 with the part leading into Corpus Christi becoming a spur to it (337). Per another comment already, convert I-69 West (Laredo) to go across to Corpus Christi instead and call that I-6 (eventually it would take over I-337 above). That leaves only the McAllen branch as I-69 but does far south Texas really need two interstates to the Mexican border (maybe it does, I've never been there)?
I agree with all of these ideas for the I-69 triple split in Texas.
I live near Brownsville and it’s absolutely necessary that we need an interstate, I’d consider Brownsville and McAllen area a giant metro since I know many people go to and from each other for work and college. The whole region would have a population of a little over a million. That’s bigger than corpus and Laredo metro combined
It kinda does need all those routes. Laredo is the major commercial land crossing from the US to Mexico. Brownsville has a large amount of traffic to and from. McAllen is a major originator of produce, and has needed the highway connection for a long time. Lloyd Bentson did the logical choice with access to federal money and spent money in all three directions.
A project was recently completed which completes I-95 to make it contiguous. However, they renamed the part that goes further north through PA to NJ as I-295 West/East when it is a north-south highway, and when it gets to the border at the Delaware River, it switches to North-South even though it makes a loop around Trenton, meaning on the west side, going north means using South I-295. Weird naming.
I live in St. Pete, FL, and you'll be pleased to know there is a proposal to remove 375 and shorten 175. My guess is that they're numbered as separate spur because each has 3 exits, even though you can only use them to access 275 and not each other.
These short spurs could be replaced by parks, and residents can just get used to using both 5th Avenue north and south to access I-275.
Excellent video! Glad to see you channel is growing.
If you do some research into MN interstates you'll find a really short one and one that was considered and never built. Ideas for your growing future.
Try I-40 through Memphis. It doesn’t actually run through Memphis because of an environmental lawsuit some 50 years ago that stopped it in its tracks. They tried to fix it about 20 years ago by re-designating the north leg of the I-240:loop as I-40 and fixing two key interchanges, while what was supposed to be the real I-40 just runs under the name Sam Cooper Blvd. (with its signature green signage in place) to the point it was stopped by the suit. I think there is still a sign along this road-to-nowhere section - or there was until very recently - saying you’re on your way to Little Rock when you’re not. You’re really just going to the zoo, albeit a very nice zoo. Psych!
Then there’s what’s left of I-240 that is now called I-240 east and west, even though it actually runs more north and south for much of its distance. Or, how about the other remaining leg of I-240, which also runs north and south through town.
There’s also the funky way I-55 goes through town, where you essentially exit and then get right back on - though they did finally fix this at least to some degree. It’s still not very elegant and causes quite a backup when there is the slightest amount of traffic.
Oh, the area also has an operating I-269 loop, even though any meaningful I-69 is decades away from making it into the area.
I almost forgot to mention the new I-22. It enters the city from the southeast but can’t connect to the main interstate system because it travels its final leg along a business route. They completed I-269 loop and connected it that way, but the connection with 269 is so far out of the way it doesn’t work well for either long or short-haulers.
Check out the area. It’s full of interstate quirks.
How about the Missing I84 from PA to UT?
MY favorite oddity has since been fixed unfortunately(?). For many years on west bound I 280 in Essex County New Jersey, the exit for the Eisenhower Parkway has two off ramps. The second ramp, Eisenhower Parkway South's exit, was marked "Exit Only" from the middle lane.
I think a good video series that you could do would be unfinished/incomplete/future interstates; for instance, Interstate 69 South of Indianapolis, or Interstate 74 Southwest of Cincinnati, or pretty much all of Interstate 73. There's a lot of other examples, but those are 3 that stand out. 73 and 74 are basically connected at the hip Ohio southward, so that would help any research you do.
Also, with regards to oddities in the interstate system:
-I-278 does not Intersect with I-78 and I-238 exists. Period. It's treated as an auxiliary of I-40 in California, as there is no I-38, but it's still signed I-238.
-There's technically interstates in Alaska, but that's just for funding purposes and they aren't singed as such. Puerto Rico has interstates too, although again, just for funding purposes.
-I-68 in Cumberland Maryland is very weird, having ridden through there in a car. Not quite Breezewood weird, but weird even still.
-Not really an oddity with the interstate but more so a fact of West VIrginia's geography, but the WV Turnpike is the straightest road in that part of the state, and that's saying something with how many dips and curves it has.
-Finally, that time I-77 and I-81 merge. You're either travelling on both I-77 South and I-81 North at the same time, or I-77 North and I-81 South at the same time. The more you know.
I-238 is treated as an auxiliary route of I-80 since its in northern California and far away from I-40
Pennsylvania example is a weird one. Only explanation I see is I-76 is the Pennsylvania Turnpike where they charge tolls and each spur interchange exit has a toll plaza, thus prohibiting direct freeway interchange. Similar oddities also found in Carlisle and Bedford.
I wonder if you can further cover dummied freeway ramps to nowhere. Since you covered I-180, another example include Korean War Veterans Pkwy in Staten Island. Due to environmentalism concerns and protests, it ended into the streets before Brookfield Park.
I think I-69 West in southern Texas should be renumbered as I-6. I never understood what the planned southern terminus of I-69 is but I-69 West is the perfect road to be renumbered as I-6.
Huh? I live in Texas. It doesn’t go east/west. It goes north/south and it’s to connect north of Detroit to the Mexican border.
@@PatricenotPatrick I am talking about one of the three sections of I-69 in southern Texas that were mentioned in this video.
Why 6? Even numbers are east west. 69 doesn’t go east/west? I take it south to go to the valley/South Padre Island.
@@nc5958 Right, that is US59 which is a north south route. Once they upgrade interchanges it’ll be labeled 69 but it’s not an east west road maam. Laredo to Detroit is not an east/west route. 6 makes no sense
@@cjthompson420 I-69 West. Not the main north-south I-69 from Texas to Michigan currently planned/under construction in several states. I-69 West, which was mentioned in this video, is an east-west route in southern Texas and it should be renumbered as I-6.
Love your videos! Keep 'em coming!
I'm surprised that I-24 didn't make it into the Top Ten. It stretches 317 miles in a southwest diagonal direction from Southern Illinois to East Ridge, Tennessee (a Chattanooga suburb) but just before it enters the Chattanooga western city limit, it dips down from Tennessee to cross into Georgia for three miles and intersects with I-59 before crossing back into Tennessee.
I live in Rome, Georgia... and always thought that I-24 was crazy how it crosses into GA... if I'm not mistaking, I there are parts there where is good back and forth from eastern and Central time zones. Very odd indeed.
@@chadnga8 The time zones don't shift back and forth. Soon before you go into Georgia, it changes to Eastern time and stays the entire way through Chattanooga until its ending at I-75.
It still keeps the Tennessee mile markers in Georgia too
@@wilderac2250 I think it’s that way since I -24 doesn’t have any exits in Georgia.
@@DerekWitt two exits are in Georgia.
Interstate 59 interchange. And Georgia highway 299 exit 167 and 169 respectively
In Southwestern Indiana Interstate 69 years ago was i-164.
Something I only learned recently after it was added into the video game American Truck Simulator: All interstates (and various other major roads) entering California (and as far as I know, no other state-to-state border crossings do this) have Agricultural Inspection stops. So, almost as if you were pulling up to a toll booth, you get stopped and asked about or even searched for if you have any plants, bugs or animals in your car that they would not allow into the state (to keep invasive species and things that would harm farm crops out of California). Unlike much of today's modern toll roads though, there's no EZ-pass or toll-by-mail, so you *must* stop.
I just found that weird that no one ever talks about that, considering that an interstate is something you usually think of being able to have easy and unimpeded travel on across the whole country.
My name is literally based off of American Truck Simulator so when I saw this comment I was shocked
@@vialtrucking I love the game and hope to some day get 100% of the roads explored, like I did with ETS 2 (although that took some cheating to get the last tiny bits)
A lot of states have these, probably more in the Southern (Sunny / agricultural) part of the USA. When I pass them they're usually closed.
There was a fruit-fly outbreak in the early 1980s that had all of these stops open.
I biked across America and that sure surprised me... it's like internal borders for CA.
@Robert M. Did they check you for insects? (JK)
The part of I-88 that coincide with I-77 in Virginia has weird signs, where I-88 N and I-77S are the same road and vise versa.
It's "north" I-77 and "south" I-81 in Virginia. Was mentioned below.
1. I-238 is an auxiliary interstate in the bay area that runs from, drumroll please,
I-580 to I-80, because I-38 doesn't exist.
2. I-495 in Long Island is an auxiliary route that comes off of I-95 in NYC, except one thing, it never touches I-95.
3. Maryland has an I-195, 295, 395, 495, 595, 695, 795, and 895, but no 995.
4. I-24 runs into Georgia before entering Chattanooga, but because it re-enters Tennessee immediately after, it uses TN mile markers and it's only Georgian exit is 167.
5. The first exit on I-14 is 277 because it is supposed to extend to Odessa, TX one day.
6. I-585 is Spartanburg's 180
The only reason I-238 got its number is that at the time, all the x80 routes were in use. Since the highway was California Highway 238 upgraded, CalTrans decided to apply for I-238.
California doesn't reuse highway numbers after they get removed from the system. The infamous I-480 got removed for obvious reasons . The infamous double-decker Embarcadero freeway was damaged beyond repair by the 1989 earthquake. Residents hated that highway as it was prior to the quake. Frankly, I don't blame California for tearing that highway down.
I-495 on Long Island has an interchange with I-295, but 495 should really be something like 195 since it's a spur.
I-278, and all of I-78's auxiliaries in New York, on the other hand, do not meet their parent because extension plans for I-78 were cancelled.
The exit numbers on I-369 in Texarkana indicate that the highway will eventually extend to Tenaha, TX where it's expected to meet the future I-69
The 2 I-580s is an interesting story too. There has long been a local interstate 580 in the bay area of California. But when my hometown of Reno, NV needed federal funding to complete a major highway connection to Carson City, the name of the local highway the federal project connected to was renamed to I-580 (from highway 395). The I-580s are hundreds of miles apart from each other, never connect, and don't even face the same way, as I-580 in California is primarily east/west whereas I-580 in Nevada in north/south. Fun times, the locals still call it 395.
One-ended spurs off an interstate use the two-digit interstate number with an odd hundred number. So there are only five possible numbers for a spur off I-80 (180, 380, 580, 780, 980), and of course they have to repeat. You just hope the repeats are far enough apart that there is no real confusion.
Routes I-73, I-74 and I-87 in North Carolina. I-73 and I-74 are waaaay out of their places in the interstate sequence and I-87 should be an east west interstate like I-42
The Breezewood situation came about because I-76 is the Pennsylvania Turnpike, which pre-dates the Interstate system. Access to the Turnpike is via Turnpike toll plazas, not interchanges with freeways like I-70.
PennDOT and PTC have had 65 years to upgrade the interchange, but they’ve decided to protect the businesses in Breezewood instead. As a matter of principle, I’ll stop in Bedford rather than Breezewood.