Yes, we really need more critical analysis of all aspects of the Quran. A fun way to learn about the changes in the Quran is with Terry Kelhawk's book "THE TOPKAPI SECRET." It is an adventure novel that chases across the world while revealing the changes - and then documents the changes in a reference section. Love it!
Good joke. But you were supposed to see this first ua-cam.com/video/jowQond7_UE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/C-HDFiC2boQ/v-deo.html This video is a real joke and the worse is a lot of people think they are hearing truths.
Today we are all finding more and more about our religious beliefs through time because time is the magnifiying glass of understanding through revelations of study, archaeology, history. All religious people and none believer's are becoming stuned at the knowledge we have today.
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply I dare u
Actually, lots of people knew that the Vulgate wasn't the oldest Bible text or the oldest Latin Bible text. I mean, if you read St. Augustine or St. Ambrose (which almost everybody pre-modern in the West who could read, did read), it's not a secret, and there were partial editions of the Vetus Latina that people had scrounged together in the 1600's or so. Cornelius a Lapide had lots of variant versions of Bible verses included in his commentaries. And of course, a lot of the Psalms used for Mass in a lot of places were the Versio Romana or other pre-Jerome translations. This doesn't invalidate your larger point, of course.
Most honest Islamic scholars claim ethics must be taken into account anytime older Quran text differs because if its different from what they know its ethical issues. It needs to be ignored in other words. It needs to be lied about and not written into history or academic facts. Ethics =tyquyya
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mamerta Ondracek Thank you for your concern we Muslims have already accepted Jesus without the testimony of any of any Biblical prophecy we Muslims have accepted Jesus on the authority of Muhammad p.b.u.h. alone and without any books.We love and believe that Jesus is the prophet and messenger of God,we believe that Jesus is a man and a man can never be God and God also can never be a man.You should be aware what the Bible say and what Jesus actually taught and he never said he was God himself,the son of God or God incarnate,he never said he had two distinct natures divine and human.
@@AB-kz3xm We Muslims say"Jesus Christ." There is nothing wrong about this by virtue of us not being Christians.This term Jesus Christ is not reserved for Christians only.Jesus is in fact a man,a prophet sent to the people of Israel to invite them to Islam and to the worship of One God alone.
Dan brubaker wrote a book on textual critism of Quran. There are 4000 instances of changes to the quran manuscripts which refutes the quranic claim tht God preserves the Quran from change. Check out the video ua-cam.com/video/1Ge8wEYkyIsX/v-deo.htmlMA
@@AB-kz3xm First let me make this very clear I am not fighting against the Christian or any other faith,I like to discuss about regions and I always support my answers with evidence and proof,and I have no problem when people challenge me. Now about the shroud of Turin.It has been proven to be a 14th.century forgery. In 1988 three radiocarbon dating tests dated a corner piece of the shroud from the middle ages between the years 1260-1390. According to Mark 14:50 the crucifixion was not witnessed by anyone of the disciples of Jesus as "THEY ALL FORSOOK HIM AND FLED", Also none of the Gospel and Epistle writers witnessed the crucifixion, there were no credible eyewitnesses. So the sources of the story are doubtful.
@@farookdinaully8029 its prevalent among muslims to accept without questioning. What happens to your common sense/logic/brain? Scrutinize every claims made by anyone before jumping to conclusion.
I will like Jay Smith also to write a book on 'textual criticism of Quran' and publish that in India so that it's cheap and read by large number of people in the Indian subcontinent. It will generate income for him also. What is most important is that his hard research work is read and preserved. His way of communication is very interesting and unique.
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply I dare u
Lieing makes it a cult not a religion. The most educated Islamic scholars know the flaws and troubles. To gas light anyways eliminates its religion status 5o be cultured =cult means created invented man made. Lieing and knowing it is acceptable in Islam =tyquyya this fact makes it impossible to get honesty from Islamic scholars. So to even label them scholars is a lie that should be eliminated on international academic circles until they start cooperating
Hmm can you imagine religious books hold testimony of people’s lives good/bad...in heaven would that not be the book of life or the actual souls of those testified about? I’d be fearful of worshiping a book as perfect when eventually they will be reconciled with actual testimony of lives in judgment. Thus why it says judge nothing before the appointed time and be careful of calling evil good and good evil
Tinsdale did translate many of the most beautiful words that we know in kjv . He did it prior version to kjv but it was so inspiring God had to touch him in his translations . God so loved the world for example . I bet all your favorite was timsdale translation and reading it in more early Greek or Hebrew it doesn't deliver so poetically but does put the massage across. Its very few if not any he shes they them type words in ancient languages
Brother Al Fadi and brother Jay, we keep asking our Muslim brothers to provide complete manuscripts from the 7th century but we dont have any early Biblical manuscripts that are also complete from 1st century?
Dan brubaker wrote a book on textual critism of Quran. There are 4000 instances of changes to the quran manuscripts which refutes the quranic claim tht God preserves the Quran from change. Check out the video ua-cam.com/video/1Ge8wEYkyIsX/v-deo.htmlMA
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!...../////////
(1). Quran is the word of God. God say this may times in the quran. (2). He say in the quran that if it is not from Him, there will discrepancies, errors, contradictions, etc. (3). And, He say in the quran that He will preserve. (4). The quran recited (in arabic) in the east (China, Japan, Korea, etc), through middle east (India, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Syria), Africa, Europe and America (north and south) is the same recitation.
@@christianwayoflife3303 The quran (revealed to prophet muhammad pbuh) is the word of God; so it is the injeel (revealed to prophet jesus pbuh and torah (revealed to prophet moses pbuh). Being word of God, the quran has the same attributes as the injeel and torah.
ehh... no... the vatican manuscripts has the longer reading of 1 john 5:7-8 even though it came late in the greek manuscripts, the church fathers allude to it and in greek the short reading creates gender issue. it wasn't introduced to the English bible, it's part of textus receptus and the very beginning of textual criticism. its in the text for the reason I've said
but all alleged different "version", "qiraat" and "reading" of Quran give the same message...address that. And why after 2000years, christians cant agree in one bible?
Why doesn't this guy go and debate with proper Islamic scholars for example from University of Al Azhar in Egypt or other prominent Islamic universities in many Muslim countries? Making unverified videos like this, is spreading dangerous misinformation.
The variations in the diacritical marks in early writings of scribes does not at all alter or distract from the classical precision in the meanings of the Quran. And as unhappy as the hypocrites may be about their signature corrupt selves being made apparent to a Quran-reliant believer , they are unable to subvert or escape those Laws of AllahSWT.
Textual criticism that considers a text outside the realm in which it is created is automatically become not more than subjective and opinionated. This is true of Verse, Ayah or Sutra.
Do you believe the Quran (1924 or other version) is the exact text transmitted through time (do not confuse the text with it's interpretation) from Mohamed? And do you believe that we cannot find any errors in the whole text (1924)?
this is to prove that the Quran is complete,uncorrupted..... the holy Quran purports: " This Quran is not such as can be produces by other than god, on the contrary it is a confirmation of ( revelation) that when before it, and fuller of explanation of the book-- wherein there is no doubt, from the lord of the world's".[surah Yunus 10:37] the holy Quran did not changed its text,letter.... Allah ( s.w.t) says; " and when our verses are recited to them as clear evidence, those who do not expect the meeting with us say; bring us Quran other than this or change it" Say[ o Muhammad], it is not for me to change it any own accord I only follow what is revealed to me. indeed I fear,if I should disobey my lord, the punishment of tremendous day".[Q.S Yunus 10:15]
You have done well to expose the problein Quran, but you put your trust in scholasic pursuit that leads you to deny the marthyrs' Bible (majority texts) and elevate the minority texts.
for further info pls read book by Joseph Atwill,...... “The authors of the New Testament and Josephus created what might be called history´s first intelligence test. The consequence for failing it is belief in a false god.” ― Joseph Atwill, Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus
@@AB-kz3xm only non Muslims claim so, yet only one version of Quran use by Muslims. Bibles has many versions with different numbers of books, plus denominations, plus Catholic, protestant..... and many more
@@AB-kz3xm The Bible Canon by Ray Sullivan - 73 Books or 66 Books? By Ray Sullivan 20 January AD 2018 So why does the Catholic Bible have 73 books, while the Protestant Bible has only 66 books? Some Protestants believe that the Catholic Church added 7 books to the Bible at the Council of Trent in response to Luther’s Reformation, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. Greek orthodox bible has 79 books. The Original Catholic Canon In about 367 AD, St. Athanasius came up with a list of 73 books for the Bible that he believed to be divinely inspired. This list was finally approved by Pope Damasus I in 382 AD, and was formally approved by the Church Council of Rome in that same year. Later Councils at Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) ratified this list of 73 books. In 405 AD, Pope Innocent I wrote a letter to the Bishop of Toulouse reaffirming this canon of 73 books. In 419 AD, the Council of Carthage reaffirmed this list, to which Pope Boniface agreed. The Council of Trent, in 1546, reaffirmed St. Athanasius’s original list of 73 books. The Protestant Change of the Canon So what happened? How come the King James Bible has only 66 books? Well, Martin Luther didn’t like 7 books of the Old Testament that disagreed with his personal view of theology, so he threw them out of his Bible in the 16th century. At the same time that Luther was creating the “scripture alone” doctrine, he was also modifying scripture! Luther was basically following the example of the Jews at the time of Jesus, who could not agree on which books were divinely inspired. The Sadducees accepted as scripture only the first 5 books written by Moses (the Pentateuch), while the Pharisees accepted the 34 other books of the Old Testament as well. However, there were other Jews from the Diaspora, the dispersion of the Jews from the Babylonian captivity, who believed that another seven books were also divinely inspired. The Septuagint translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek by seventy translators, includes the disputed seven books that Protestants do not recognize as scriptural. Initially, Martin Luther wanted to kick out some New Testament Books as well, including James, Hebrews, Jude, and Revelation. He actually said that he wanted to “throw Jimmy into the fire”, and that the book of James was “an epistle of straw.” What is strange is that Luther eventually accepted all 27 books of the New Testament of which the Catholic Pope Damasus I had approve in 382 AD, but he didn’t accept his Old Testament list. So why did he trust the Catholic Church whom he called “the whore of Babylon” to come up with an accurate New Testament list when he rejected the Church’s Old Testament canon? No one really knows. The Jewish Canon of the Old Testament Let’s take a look at how the Old Testament books were decided on by the Pharisees. There were four basic criteria for deciding whether or not certain books were canonical: The books had to conform to the Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible- Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy); They could not have been written after the time of Ezra (around 400 BC); They had to be written in Hebrew; They had to be written in Palestine. So this method employed by the Jews would automatically exclude all of the Gospels, and the Epistles of the New Testament, which were also written in the first century. But there were other books written before Christ, after Ezra, and some in Greek as well. The Alexandrian Canon, which included these seven books were accepted by the Diaspora Jews, who did not live in Palestine. These seven books are Tobit, Judith, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, First Maccabees, and Second Maccabees, as well as additional verses of Daniel and Esther. These books are called the “deuterocanon”, or second canon, by Catholics, and “apocrypha”, or hidden/obscure, by Protestants. Objections to the Deuterocanonical Books and their Resolution There are several objections to these seven books. Some say proof that they are not canonical is that the New Testament never references these disputed books. But that isn’t right, because the non-disputed books of Ecclesiastes and Ezra aren’t mentioned in the New Testament at all, not even once. By this standard then, Ecclesiastes and Ezra aren’t canonical either. On the other hand, there are many references from the deuterocanonical books in the New Testament. Anybody who reads the book of Wisdom 2: 12-20 would immediately recognize that this is a direct reference to the Jews who were plotting against Jesus in Matthew 27:41-43: Wisdom 2:12-20: “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, and accuses us of sins against our training. He professes to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. He became to us a reproof of our thoughts; the very sight of him is a burden to us, because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are strange. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts that God is his father. Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life; for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected.” Matthew 27: 41-43: So also the chief priests, with the scribes and elders, mocked him, saying, “He saved others; he cannot save himself. He is the King of Israel; let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he desires him; for he said, `I am the Son of God.’” Another similar instance of this is Hebrews 11:35, which is a direct reference to 2 Maccabees 7, where the mother and her seven sons were slaughtered by the evil King for not forsaking the Jewish law. Romans 1:19-25 concerning the worship of nature is also referenced in Wisdom 13. The clincher, of course, is that Jesus Himself observed the feast of Hanukah, or the Dedication of the Temple, in John 10:22. This can be found in the Old Testament book of First Maccabees, Chapter 4, which is in the Catholic Bible, but not in the Protestant Bible. Additionally, there are some unscriptural references in the New Testament. Jude quotes the book of Enoch and also tells of the fate of Moses’ body from the book, The Assumption of Moses. Thus, if the standard is that books referenced in the New Testament are canonical, then Enoch and the Assumption of Moses would be in the Old Testament, but they are not. Some people object to these seven books because they claim that some of the early church fathers like St. Jerome didn’t think they were divinely inspired. While it’s great that so many non-Catholics start quoting the early Church Fathers, it’s not right to quote them on this and then not on the Eucharist, the papacy, or the supremacy of Rome, all of which prove that the Catholic Church was the only Church around in those days. St. Jerome initially had some concerns about these books, saying that the Palestinian Jews didn’t consider them canonical, but St. Jerome was not infallible, and later agreed that they were scriptural. All of the early Church Fathers accepted these disputed books as divinely inspired. It’s important also to note that the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls included the book of Tobit and the book of Sirach, proving that the people back then thought them worthy of reading, because they were found with the book of Isaiah and other Old Testament books. You can check all of this out for yourself. The first Bible ever printed was the Gutenberg Bible, in the century BEFORE Luther started his Reformation. The disputed seven books are indeed in that Bible. To check out a great list of all of the New Testament references to the deuterocanonical books by Catholic genius and all-around good guy Jimmy Akin, click here. Some of the More Interesting Items in These Seven Books In 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, we learn how Judas Maccabees prayed for the dead and made atonement FOR THEM by sending money to the temple as a sin offering (purgatory). In 2 Maccabees 6:12-14, we learn how God punishes nations. In 2 Maccabees 2:4-7, we learn the final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant and when it will be found (Sorry Indiana Jones!). In 2 Maccabees 15:12-17, we learn about how saints in heaven pray for us and help us out here on earth. In Wisdom 7, we see a biblical type of the Blessed Virgin Mary (aka the Seat of Wisdom) known as “Wisdom.” In Sirach 38:1-15, we learn about the role of the physician and how God uses him/her to cure us. In Tobit, we learn about the Archangel Raphael (a name which means God Heals), the only place in the entire Bible where he is mentioned. We also learn about the anti-marriage demon Asmode’us. In Judith, we see a biblical type of Mary crushing the head of the serpent; Judith cuts off the head of the evil General Holofernes, and saves Israel.
If the qur'an was well kept in memory, why write down and make all the mistakes that we are witnessing? Just continue using your memory!. Now that we know the lies being propagated by Islam scholars, can they just admit that they also don't know?
Wow, looks like all these most ancient versions of the Holy Bible were all transmitted through and by the Holy Catholic Church, which must be the only true Church founded by Christ upon Saint Peter. Boggles my mind that such brilliant people like Al Fadi and jay Smith prefer to follow one of the numerous protestant sects, which existence is only due to some 16th century heretics such as Luther or Henry VIII. Lol, in the video, even Dr. Smith admits that his KJV Bible contains added verses. He should invest in the Douai Rheims Bible asap !
Imagine equating a Luther, literally a theologian, and Henry, a lustful king, and expecting people to take you seriously. Isaac, I’m not anti catholic. I’m taking RCIA when it opens up post Covid. But you seriously need to do some reading man.
@@ofthedevil4611 And you, dear, need to do some reading into Luther's Table talks in which he blasphemes against Christ and promotes polygamy (he had himself at least 3 wives simultaneously, including a nun he perverted after he defrocked). Not to mention the fact that this "theologian" (he was not, he was only a defrocked heretic) littaraly removed several books from the Old Testament and even had the intention to get rid of the the Epistle of James. I'm from Southern Germany and you have no idea of the harm Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and other protestant heretics have done to Christendom. How about that ?
@@alsacemoselle Isaac, homie, Luther had some serious issues, obviously! But he didn't leave the Catholic Church in pursuit of lust which Henry did, that was my point. Listen when others speak. On your point of Luther not being a theologian, a defrocked heretic can still be a theologian... An atheist can be a theologian. It's literally someone who studies God. His standing as a theologian is COMPLETELY unrelated to whether or not he is a heretic.
@@ofthedevil4611 My dude, respectfully, it loooks like you really don't know the life and the sayings of Martin Luther. Luther was a lawyer, he had no formation as a theologian. I advise you to listen to the podcast on his life on the "Catholic Family Podcast". I was myself shocked, even though I knew many things about his horrible doctrines beforehand.
@@LSS228 PROBLEMS WITH THE BIBLE by Bart Erhman, For students who come into seminary with a view that the Bible is completely, absolutely, one hundred percent without error, the realization that most critical scholars have a very different view can come as a real shock to their systems. And once these students open the floodgates by admitting there might be mistakes in the Bible, their understanding of Scripture takes a radical turn. The more they read the text carefully and intensely, the more mistakes they find, and they begin to see that in fact the Bible makes better sense if you acknowledge its inconsistencies instead of staunchly insisting that there aren’t any, even when they are staring you in the face. .. Bart Erhman.
@@LSS228 ok, lets see Quran.... “… tell them, “Who revealed the Book containing light and guidance for mankind which Moses brought? You wrote it down on scrolls only some parts of the original and concealed much of it….” (Quran 6:91)
@@LSS228 if you dont like Quran, use other source like... The historical narratives of the Old Testament are filled with legendary fabrications and the book of Acts in the New Testament contains historically unreliable information about the life and teachings of Paul. Many of the books of the New Testament are pseudonymous-written not by the apostles but by later writers claiming to be apostles. The list goes on. Bart D. Ehrman, Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them)
None muslim is always find the faults, we muslim are already divided, more divisions only harmful . All this discussion are here to go on and on, even within our selves we are debating and trying to perfect ourselves, this should be human nature of mentality.
@@AB-kz3xm In your Bible are direct orders to rape,kill amd murder. Numbers 31:17-18 "NOW KILL ALL THE BOYS AND KILL EVERY WOMENWHO HAS SLEPT WITH A MAN,BUT SAVE FOR YOURSELVES EVERY GIRL WHO HAS NOT SLEPT WITH A MAN."
I don't mind you criticizing islam but what I do mind is the false pagan trinity and I don't think you have to be a muslim to believe that why not be a unitarian christian (biblical) and still think islam is false
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
There is no such thing as the race of people called Christians. Christians are called so because we follow Christ. The first Christians were Jews and Jesus was a Jew. That is why the Old Testament and New Testament makes up the Bible. Acts 11:26 [26]And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
The explicit statement in the Qur’an as to the Punishment-bound fate of harassers i.e those who engage in the breach of AllahSWT ‘s bestowed personal space /autonomy/communications of another person is undeniable. It is their accursed, impune nature that retards them from processing that assured, inevitable certainty. An Unwavering Certainty determined by AllahSWT irrespective of the wishes of humans.
Here is an idea---why do not you both take the sharp stick out of your own eyes first---Jesus handpicked James to be his successor. James (Yahkov) was Zaddik, the most honored & righteous man of his generation --not the fake one who is featured as #1 authority in the Roman designed New Testament---clean this up and we all can move forward Justly in the Original Way, the Wisdom Truth and Indivisible Light.
(The God of Bible is Idol of Stone) Reference are mentioned below Genesis ch.28 v.18&22 [18]And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it. [22]And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee. Psalm Ch.59 V.9/Ch.59 V.16 Ch.59 V.17/Ch.16 V.3 Ch.62 V.2 to 3/Ch.44 V.1&2 God is High Tower, Psalm Ch.31 V.2&3/Ch.71 V.3 Ch.94 V.22 Proverbs Ch.18 V.19 2/Samuel Ch.22 V.3 God is Strong Rock Psalms 84:11 God is a sun 🌞 Book of Revelation Ch.21 v.23 23 The city does not need the sun 🌞 or the Moon 🌕 to lighten on it, the God lighten on it, The 🌞 & 🌕 God Finally 2nd Corinthians ch.4 v.4 The 😈 Satan is The God of this world Isis(Moon 🌕 God) Ra. ( Sun 🌞 God) El(Supreme God of pagans) Is+Ra+El= Moon 🌕 Sun 🌞 EL 3 Gods in One Trinity proved (IsRaEl) Galatians/3.13 God is the Cursed
Canaan is son of ham as well as brother of Haam he also son of Noah Canaan is brother of Shem and Jafet and also nephew of Shem and Jafet Shame on your Bible i vomits on this issue
@Exposed Christianity I guess all that vomiting comes from your practice while reading the quran and realizing that the quran is not eternal, was not sent down and has been changed by men. Oooops! Buuuuiiiiiicccckkkkk! Caaaaadillllaaaaac!!!! Q4:82 applied ==> what did Al Lah create first, the earth or the heavens? Earth first Q2:29. Heavens first Q79:27-33. Q4:82 applied ==> why did Al Lah abrogate the no compulsion in religion with violence and death for not converting or apostasy? No compulsion Q2:256. Violence, death or convert Q9:5, Q9:29. Here is the only Question you need to answer: are you a good person? What standard do you use for measuring "good"? Do you use the standard (10) that was given to Moses (Musa)?
@@rashid4682 Did you say "see what God is doing?" or did you say "see what Ham is doing?" There is a big difference between what a man does and what God does. But not in Islam as Muhammad is worshipped like the black stone. See what Muhammad did to the 6 year old girl. See what Muhammad did to the man that would not tell him where the treasure was. See what Muhammad did to the poets and song writers that wrote and sang about him. Is that what you meant by see what Ham is doing?
@@dhc21atyahoo (The God of Bible is Idol of Stone) Reference are mentioned below Genesis ch.28 v.18&22 [18]And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it. [22]And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee. Psalm Ch.59 V.9/Ch.59 V.16 Ch.59 V.17/Ch.16 V.3 Ch.62 V.2 to 3/Ch.44 V.1&2 God is High Tower, Psalm Ch.31 V.2&3/Ch.71 V.3 Ch.94 V.22 Proverbs Ch.18 V.19 2/Samuel Ch.22 V.3 God is Strong Rock Psalms 84:11 God is a sun 🌞 Book of Revelation Ch.21 v.23 23 The city does not need the sun 🌞 or the Moon 🌕 to lighten on it, the God lighten on it, The 🌞 & 🌕 God Finally 2nd Corinthians ch.4 v.4 The 😈 Satan is The God of this world Isis(Moon 🌕 God) Ra. ( Sun 🌞 God) El(Supreme God of pagans) Is+Ra+El= Moon 🌕 Sun 🌞 EL 3 Gods in One Trinity proved (IsRaEl) Galatians/3.13 God is the Cursed
I was looking for extensive information on the history of Islamic texts-I had forgotten that this is what this channel is about.
Yes, we really need more critical analysis of all aspects of the Quran.
A fun way to learn about the changes in the Quran is with Terry Kelhawk's book "THE TOPKAPI SECRET." It is an adventure novel that chases across the world while revealing the changes - and then documents the changes in a reference section. Love it!
There are cars older than the Qurans Muslims read today.
I think I may have a t-shirt older than a few of them...heh heh heh!
Yes,1924 English translation of the quran... my great-grandmother is MORE older than the English Quran..
Ohh please! I am 79 born, i am older than today's Hafs.
Classic 👌🏻
Good joke. But you were supposed to see this first
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This video is a real joke and the worse is a lot of people think they are hearing truths.
I miss Jay Smith speakers corner voice 💪🔥
Today we are all finding more and more about our religious beliefs through time because time is the magnifiying glass of understanding through revelations of study, archaeology, history. All religious people and none believer's are becoming stuned at the knowledge we have today.
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply
Prince Philip is older than the Quran they read today, tutututututu....
God bless you brother
God bless for all the works you've done
God bless u. ❤
Thanks for the wealth of information guys. 👌👌
Awesome stuff there!
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply I dare u
Actually, lots of people knew that the Vulgate wasn't the oldest Bible text or the oldest Latin Bible text. I mean, if you read St. Augustine or St. Ambrose (which almost everybody pre-modern in the West who could read, did read), it's not a secret, and there were partial editions of the Vetus Latina that people had scrounged together in the 1600's or so. Cornelius a Lapide had lots of variant versions of Bible verses included in his commentaries. And of course, a lot of the Psalms used for Mass in a lot of places were the Versio Romana or other pre-Jerome translations. This doesn't invalidate your larger point, of course.
Jay Smith always interviews the interviewer
Most honest Islamic scholars claim ethics must be taken into account anytime older Quran text differs because if its different from what they know its ethical issues. It needs to be ignored in other words. It needs to be lied about and not written into history or academic facts.
Ethics =tyquyya
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Thank you for your concern we Muslims have already accepted Jesus without the testimony of any of any Biblical prophecy we Muslims have accepted Jesus on the authority of Muhammad p.b.u.h. alone and without any books.We love and believe that Jesus is the prophet and messenger of God,we believe that Jesus is a man and a man can never be God and God also can never be a man.You should be aware what the Bible say and what Jesus actually taught and he never said he was God himself,the son of God or God incarnate,he never said he had two distinct natures divine and human.
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We Muslims say"Jesus Christ."
There is nothing wrong about this by virtue of us not being Christians.This term Jesus Christ is not reserved for Christians only.Jesus is in fact a man,a prophet sent to the people of Israel to invite them to Islam and to the worship of One God alone.
Dan brubaker wrote a book on textual critism of Quran. There are 4000 instances of changes to the quran manuscripts which refutes the quranic claim tht God preserves the Quran from change. Check out the video
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First let me make this very clear I am not fighting against the Christian or any other faith,I like to discuss about regions and I always support my answers with evidence and proof,and I have no problem when people challenge me.
Now about the shroud of Turin.It has been proven to be a 14th.century forgery.
In 1988 three radiocarbon dating tests dated a corner piece of the shroud from the middle ages between the years 1260-1390.
According to Mark 14:50 the crucifixion was not witnessed by anyone of the disciples of Jesus as "THEY ALL FORSOOK HIM AND FLED",
Also none of the Gospel and Epistle writers witnessed the crucifixion, there were no credible eyewitnesses.
So the sources of the story are doubtful.
@@farookdinaully8029 its prevalent among muslims to accept without questioning. What happens to your common sense/logic/brain? Scrutinize every claims made by anyone before jumping to conclusion.
I will like Jay Smith also to write a book on 'textual criticism of Quran' and publish that in India so that it's cheap and read by large number of people in the Indian subcontinent. It will generate income for him also.
What is most important is that his hard research work is read and preserved. His way of communication is very interesting and unique.
Praise the Lord Al Fadi.i just wanted to know that what is the meaning of No 786 in Islam?
This is the based video.
PROVE IT
Where to get it
THEY HAQVE FOUND ONE OF THE OLDEST MOSQUE IN ISRAEL SOME WHERE NEAR GALILLE.ANY IDEA WHERE THE QUIBLA OF THIS MOSQUE IS FACING?
auto generated caption is so funny 😂😂😂
Fadi n jay pls watch a lamp in th dark n tares among wheat, adullam films
Need more of these.
Really it feels like u guys found the gold mine may I be the first to say this to u that these deference’s was noted and published in books by Muslims . These are well noted thier is even a subject named after it called qireat or the sciences of the Quran. Every word that are different in thier was revealed by Allah all those different things were recited by Mohammed himself. You Christians are acting as if you got us. Do your research all the different things thier is called accents not that u will know what I am saying reply I dare u
Lieing makes it a cult not a religion. The most educated Islamic scholars know the flaws and troubles. To gas light anyways eliminates its religion status 5o be cultured =cult means created invented man made. Lieing and knowing it is acceptable in Islam =tyquyya this fact makes it impossible to get honesty from Islamic scholars. So to even label them scholars is a lie that should be eliminated on international academic circles until they start cooperating
how many different versions of the bible are there again?
Thank you once again for your efforts to expose islam. Keep up the good work!
Hmm can you imagine religious books hold testimony of people’s lives good/bad...in heaven would that not be the book of life or the actual souls of those testified about? I’d be fearful of worshiping a book as perfect when eventually they will be reconciled with actual testimony of lives in judgment. Thus why it says judge nothing before the appointed time and be careful of calling evil good and good evil
Brilliant.
Tinsdale did translate many of the most beautiful words that we know in kjv . He did it prior version to kjv but it was so inspiring God had to touch him in his translations . God so loved the world for example . I bet all your favorite was timsdale translation and reading it in more early Greek or Hebrew it doesn't deliver so poetically but does put the massage across. Its very few if not any he shes they them type words in ancient languages
Why no body is talking abt killing and stuff
Brother Al Fadi and brother Jay, we keep asking our Muslim brothers to provide complete manuscripts from the 7th century but we dont have any early Biblical manuscripts that are also complete from 1st century?
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Check the link from Pfander films
Thanks
@@daeH_11 your welcome boss
Dan brubaker wrote a book on textual critism of Quran. There are 4000 instances of changes to the quran manuscripts which refutes the quranic claim tht God preserves the Quran from change. Check out the video
ua-cam.com/video/1Ge8wEYkyIsX/v-deo.htmlMA
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!...../////////
Research sir isaac newton's testimony
Yahweh is not a man read the holy Bible
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No its not, 'Matthew' 28:19 as found in the king James corruption is not found in the Shem Tov text which is the original.
The quran is a god 😭
(1). Quran is the word of God. God say this may times in the quran.
(2). He say in the quran that if it is not from Him, there will discrepancies, errors, contradictions, etc.
(3). And, He say in the quran that He will preserve.
(4). The quran recited (in arabic) in the east (China, Japan, Korea, etc), through middle east (India, Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Syria), Africa, Europe and America (north and south) is the same recitation.
@@sethsuleiman4419 the quran has attributes that belong to allah only.
@@christianwayoflife3303 The quran (revealed to prophet muhammad pbuh) is the word of God; so it is the injeel (revealed to prophet jesus pbuh and torah (revealed to prophet moses pbuh). Being word of God, the quran has the same attributes as the injeel and torah.
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ehh... no... the vatican manuscripts has the longer reading of 1 john 5:7-8 even though it came late in the greek manuscripts, the church fathers allude to it and in greek the short reading creates gender issue. it wasn't introduced to the English bible, it's part of textus receptus and the very beginning of textual criticism. its in the text for the reason I've said
Poor Writing & thinking human scribes chain copy writing from the mind of Mo a god tutututu
but all alleged different "version", "qiraat" and "reading" of Quran give the same message...address that.
And why after 2000years, christians cant agree in one bible?
R M S: You are off topic. Not discussing different Christian creeds here.
Why doesn't this guy go and debate with proper Islamic scholars for example from University of Al Azhar in Egypt or other prominent Islamic universities in many Muslim countries? Making unverified videos like this, is spreading dangerous misinformation.
The variations in the diacritical marks in early writings of scribes does not at all alter or distract from the classical precision in the meanings of the Quran.
And as unhappy as the hypocrites may be about their signature corrupt selves being made apparent to a Quran-reliant believer , they are unable to subvert or escape those Laws of AllahSWT.
Textual criticism that considers a text outside the realm in which it is created is automatically become not more than subjective and opinionated. This is true of Verse, Ayah or Sutra.
Do you believe the Quran (1924 or other version) is the exact text transmitted through time (do not confuse the text with it's interpretation) from Mohamed? And do you believe that we cannot find any errors in the whole text (1924)?
this is to prove that the Quran is complete,uncorrupted.....
the holy Quran purports:
" This Quran is not such as can be
produces by other than god,
on the contrary it is a confirmation of
( revelation) that when before it,
and fuller of explanation of the book--
wherein there is no doubt,
from the lord of the world's".[surah Yunus 10:37]
the holy Quran did not changed its text,letter....
Allah ( s.w.t) says;
" and when our verses are recited to them as clear evidence,
those who do not expect the meeting with us
say; bring us Quran other than this or change it"
Say[ o Muhammad],
it is not for me to change it any own accord
I only follow what is revealed to me.
indeed I fear,if I should disobey my lord,
the punishment of tremendous day".[Q.S Yunus 10:15]
Bible preserved Book
You are really giving mixed messages with your posts.
@@Xbalanque84 He's muslim, so he has a forked tongue. His speech isn't as confusing as his god's.
@@FreeRadical7118 Exactly
You have done well to expose the problein Quran, but you put your trust in scholasic pursuit that leads you to deny the marthyrs' Bible (majority texts)
and elevate the minority texts.
for further info pls read book by Joseph Atwill,...... “The authors of the New Testament and Josephus created what might be called history´s first intelligence test. The consequence for failing it is belief in a false god.”
― Joseph Atwill, Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus
@@AB-kz3xm only non Muslims claim so, yet only one version of Quran use by Muslims. Bibles has many versions with different numbers of books, plus denominations, plus Catholic, protestant..... and many more
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The Bible Canon by Ray Sullivan - 73 Books or 66 Books?
By Ray Sullivan
20 January AD 2018
So why does the Catholic Bible have 73 books, while the Protestant Bible has only 66 books? Some Protestants believe that the Catholic Church added 7 books to the Bible at the Council of Trent in response to Luther’s Reformation, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.
Greek orthodox bible has 79 books.
The Original Catholic Canon
In about 367 AD, St. Athanasius came up with a list of 73 books for the Bible that he believed to be divinely inspired. This list was finally approved by Pope Damasus I in 382 AD, and was formally approved by the Church Council of Rome in that same year. Later Councils at Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) ratified this list of 73 books. In 405 AD, Pope Innocent I wrote a letter to the Bishop of Toulouse reaffirming this canon of 73 books. In 419 AD, the Council of Carthage reaffirmed this list, to which Pope Boniface agreed. The Council of Trent, in 1546, reaffirmed St. Athanasius’s original list of 73 books.
The Protestant Change of the Canon
So what happened? How come the King James Bible has only 66 books? Well, Martin Luther didn’t like 7 books of the Old Testament that disagreed with his personal view of theology, so he threw them out of his Bible in the 16th century. At the same time that Luther was creating the “scripture alone” doctrine, he was also modifying scripture!
Luther was basically following the example of the Jews at the time of Jesus, who could not agree on which books were divinely inspired. The Sadducees accepted as scripture only the first 5 books written by Moses (the Pentateuch), while the Pharisees accepted the 34 other books of the Old Testament as well. However, there were other Jews from the Diaspora, the dispersion of the Jews from the Babylonian captivity, who believed that another seven books were also divinely inspired. The Septuagint translation of the Old Testament from Hebrew into Greek by seventy translators, includes the disputed seven books that Protestants do not recognize as scriptural.
Initially, Martin Luther wanted to kick out some New Testament Books as well, including James, Hebrews, Jude, and Revelation. He actually said that he wanted to “throw Jimmy into the fire”, and that the book of James was “an epistle of straw.” What is strange is that Luther eventually accepted all 27 books of the New Testament of which the Catholic Pope Damasus I had approve in 382 AD, but he didn’t accept his Old Testament list. So why did he trust the Catholic Church whom he called “the whore of Babylon” to come up with an accurate New Testament list when he rejected the Church’s Old Testament canon? No one really knows.
The Jewish Canon of the Old Testament
Let’s take a look at how the Old Testament books were decided on by the Pharisees. There were four basic criteria for deciding whether or not certain books were canonical:
The books had to conform to the Pentateuch (the first 5 books of the Bible- Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy);
They could not have been written after the time of Ezra (around 400 BC);
They had to be written in Hebrew;
They had to be written in Palestine.
So this method employed by the Jews would automatically exclude all of the Gospels, and the Epistles of the New Testament, which were also written in the first century. But there were other books written before Christ, after Ezra, and some in Greek as well. The Alexandrian Canon, which included these seven books were accepted by the Diaspora Jews, who did not live in Palestine. These seven books are Tobit, Judith, Baruch, Wisdom, Sirach, First Maccabees, and Second Maccabees, as well as additional verses of Daniel and Esther. These books are called the “deuterocanon”, or second canon, by Catholics, and “apocrypha”, or hidden/obscure, by Protestants.
Objections to the Deuterocanonical Books and their Resolution
There are several objections to these seven books. Some say proof that they are not canonical is that the New Testament never references these disputed books. But that isn’t right, because the non-disputed books of Ecclesiastes and Ezra aren’t mentioned in the New Testament at all, not even once. By this standard then, Ecclesiastes and Ezra aren’t canonical either. On the other hand, there are many references from the deuterocanonical books in the New Testament. Anybody who reads the book of Wisdom 2: 12-20 would immediately recognize that this is a direct reference to the Jews who were plotting against Jesus in Matthew 27:41-43:
Wisdom 2:12-20: “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, and accuses us of sins against our training. He professes to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. He became to us a reproof of our thoughts; the very sight of him is a burden to us, because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are strange. We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts that God is his father. Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life; for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries. Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected.”
Matthew 27: 41-43: So also the chief priests, with the scribes and elders, mocked him, saying, “He saved others; he cannot save himself. He is the King of Israel; let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he desires him; for he said, `I am the Son of God.’”
Another similar instance of this is Hebrews 11:35, which is a direct reference to 2 Maccabees 7, where the mother and her seven sons were slaughtered by the evil King for not forsaking the Jewish law. Romans 1:19-25 concerning the worship of nature is also referenced in Wisdom 13. The clincher, of course, is that Jesus Himself observed the feast of Hanukah, or the Dedication of the Temple, in John 10:22. This can be found in the Old Testament book of First Maccabees, Chapter 4, which is in the Catholic Bible, but not in the Protestant Bible.
Additionally, there are some unscriptural references in the New Testament. Jude quotes the book of Enoch and also tells of the fate of Moses’ body from the book, The Assumption of Moses. Thus, if the standard is that books referenced in the New Testament are canonical, then Enoch and the Assumption of Moses would be in the Old Testament, but they are not.
Some people object to these seven books because they claim that some of the early church fathers like St. Jerome didn’t think they were divinely inspired. While it’s great that so many non-Catholics start quoting the early Church Fathers, it’s not right to quote them on this and then not on the Eucharist, the papacy, or the supremacy of Rome, all of which prove that the Catholic Church was the only Church around in those days. St. Jerome initially had some concerns about these books, saying that the Palestinian Jews didn’t consider them canonical, but St. Jerome was not infallible, and later agreed that they were scriptural. All of the early Church Fathers accepted these disputed books as divinely inspired.
It’s important also to note that the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls included the book of Tobit and the book of Sirach, proving that the people back then thought them worthy of reading, because they were found with the book of Isaiah and other Old Testament books.
You can check all of this out for yourself. The first Bible ever printed was the Gutenberg Bible, in the century BEFORE Luther started his Reformation. The disputed seven books are indeed in that Bible.
To check out a great list of all of the New Testament references to the deuterocanonical books by Catholic genius and all-around good guy Jimmy Akin, click here.
Some of the More Interesting Items in These Seven Books
In 2 Maccabees 12:39-45, we learn how Judas Maccabees prayed for the dead and made atonement FOR THEM by sending money to the temple as a sin offering (purgatory).
In 2 Maccabees 6:12-14, we learn how God punishes nations.
In 2 Maccabees 2:4-7, we learn the final resting place of the Ark of the Covenant and when it will be found (Sorry Indiana Jones!).
In 2 Maccabees 15:12-17, we learn about how saints in heaven pray for us and help us out here on earth.
In Wisdom 7, we see a biblical type of the Blessed Virgin Mary (aka the Seat of Wisdom) known as “Wisdom.”
In Sirach 38:1-15, we learn about the role of the physician and how God uses him/her to cure us.
In Tobit, we learn about the Archangel Raphael (a name which means God Heals), the only place in the entire Bible where he is mentioned. We also learn about the anti-marriage demon Asmode’us.
In Judith, we see a biblical type of Mary crushing the head of the serpent; Judith cuts off the head of the evil General Holofernes, and saves Israel.
@@AB-kz3xm ok, i see your point. Bible is not important, for that reason there were addltions and deletion in it plus dogmatic teaching by some priest
@@AB-kz3xm the islamic faith doesnt depend on human, or miracles, or priests, it is God who protect Islam.
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If the qur'an was well kept in memory, why write down and make all the mistakes that we are witnessing? Just continue using your memory!. Now that we know the lies being propagated by Islam scholars, can they just admit that they also don't know?
Watch a lamp in th dark adullam films a jesuit conspiracy
Wow, looks like all these most ancient versions of the Holy Bible were all transmitted through and by the Holy Catholic Church, which must be the only true Church founded by Christ upon Saint Peter. Boggles my mind that such brilliant people like Al Fadi and jay Smith prefer to follow one of the numerous protestant sects, which existence is only due to some 16th century heretics such as Luther or Henry VIII. Lol, in the video, even Dr. Smith admits that his KJV Bible contains added verses. He should invest in the Douai Rheims Bible asap !
Imagine equating a Luther, literally a theologian, and Henry, a lustful king, and expecting people to take you seriously. Isaac, I’m not anti catholic. I’m taking RCIA when it opens up post Covid. But you seriously need to do some reading man.
@@ofthedevil4611 And you, dear, need to do some reading into Luther's Table talks in which he blasphemes against Christ and promotes polygamy (he had himself at least 3 wives simultaneously, including a nun he perverted after he defrocked). Not to mention the fact that this "theologian" (he was not, he was only a defrocked heretic) littaraly removed several books from the Old Testament and even had the intention to get rid of the the Epistle of James. I'm from Southern Germany and you have no idea of the harm Luther, Calvin, Zwingli and other protestant heretics have done to Christendom. How about that ?
@@alsacemoselle Isaac, homie, Luther had some serious issues, obviously! But he didn't leave the Catholic Church in pursuit of lust which Henry did, that was my point. Listen when others speak. On your point of Luther not being a theologian, a defrocked heretic can still be a theologian... An atheist can be a theologian. It's literally someone who studies God. His standing as a theologian is COMPLETELY unrelated to whether or not he is a heretic.
@@ofthedevil4611 My dude, respectfully, it loooks like you really don't know the life and the sayings of Martin Luther. Luther was a lawyer, he had no formation as a theologian. I advise you to listen to the podcast on his life on the "Catholic Family Podcast". I was myself shocked, even though I knew many things about his horrible doctrines beforehand.
@@alsacemoselleyes a podcast as a source, Jesus Christ, grow up. Learn something outside your comfort zone.
Nothing else todo lets do texual criticism 😆
@@LSS228 go ahead
@@LSS228 PROBLEMS WITH THE BIBLE by Bart Erhman, For students who come into seminary with a view that the Bible is completely, absolutely, one hundred percent without error, the realization that most critical scholars have a very different view can come as a real shock to their systems. And once these students open the floodgates by admitting there might be mistakes in the Bible, their understanding of Scripture takes a radical turn. The more they read the text carefully and intensely, the more mistakes they find, and they begin to see that in fact the Bible makes better sense if you acknowledge its inconsistencies instead of staunchly insisting that there aren’t any, even when they are staring you in the face. .. Bart Erhman.
@@LSS228 ok, lets see Quran.... “… tell them, “Who revealed the Book containing light and guidance for mankind which Moses brought? You wrote it down on scrolls only some parts of the original and concealed much of it….” (Quran 6:91)
@@LSS228 if you dont like Quran, use other source like... The historical narratives of the Old Testament are filled with legendary fabrications and the book of Acts in the New Testament contains historically unreliable information about the life and teachings of Paul. Many of the books of the New Testament are pseudonymous-written not by the apostles but by later writers claiming to be apostles. The list goes on.
Bart D. Ehrman, Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them)
@@LSS228 if i agree i would be lying. why should i lied for you hehehe
Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world. So you left the Qur'an for the Bible , how ironic
None muslim is always find the faults, we muslim are already divided, more divisions only harmful . All this discussion are here to go on and on, even within our selves we are debating and trying to perfect ourselves, this should be human nature of mentality.
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In your Bible are direct orders to rape,kill amd murder.
Numbers 31:17-18
"NOW KILL ALL THE BOYS AND KILL EVERY WOMENWHO HAS SLEPT WITH A MAN,BUT SAVE FOR YOURSELVES EVERY GIRL WHO HAS NOT SLEPT WITH A MAN."
I don't mind you criticizing islam but what I do mind is the false pagan trinity and I don't think you have to be a muslim to believe that why not be a unitarian christian (biblical) and still think islam is false
Read numbers 31 how your God Jesus told everyone to kill and keep little girls as sex slaves , they saved 32.000. Virgins and God took 32
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS.
THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS.
SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
There is no such thing as the race of people called Christians. Christians are called so because we follow Christ. The first Christians were Jews and Jesus was a Jew. That is why the Old Testament and New Testament makes up the Bible.
Acts 11:26
[26]And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
The explicit statement in the Qur’an as to the Punishment-bound fate of harassers i.e those who engage in the breach of AllahSWT ‘s bestowed personal space /autonomy/communications of another person is undeniable.
It is their accursed, impune nature that retards them from processing that assured, inevitable certainty. An Unwavering Certainty determined by AllahSWT irrespective of the wishes of humans.
Here is an idea---why do not you both take the sharp stick out of your own eyes first---Jesus handpicked James to be his successor. James (Yahkov) was Zaddik, the most honored & righteous man of his generation --not the fake one who is featured as #1 authority in the Roman designed New Testament---clean this up and we all can move forward Justly in the Original Way, the Wisdom Truth and Indivisible Light.
Noah's uncovered clothes
Different versions of Bible Vs Quran Pak
There is no comparison between Allah's holy books
(The God of Bible is Idol of Stone)
Reference are mentioned below
Genesis ch.28 v.18&22
[18]And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
[22]And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
Psalm
Ch.59 V.9/Ch.59 V.16
Ch.59 V.17/Ch.16 V.3
Ch.62 V.2 to 3/Ch.44 V.1&2
God is High Tower,
Psalm
Ch.31 V.2&3/Ch.71 V.3
Ch.94 V.22
Proverbs
Ch.18 V.19
2/Samuel
Ch.22 V.3
God is Strong Rock
Psalms 84:11
God is a sun 🌞
Book of Revelation
Ch.21 v.23
23 The city does not need the sun 🌞 or the Moon 🌕 to lighten on it, the God lighten on it,
The 🌞 & 🌕 God
Finally
2nd Corinthians ch.4 v.4
The 😈 Satan is The God of this world
Isis(Moon 🌕 God)
Ra. ( Sun 🌞 God)
El(Supreme God of pagans)
Is+Ra+El= Moon 🌕 Sun 🌞 EL 3 Gods in One Trinity proved (IsRaEl)
Galatians/3.13
God is the Cursed
Canaan is son of ham as well as brother of Haam he also son of Noah Canaan is brother of Shem and Jafet and also nephew of Shem and Jafet
Shame on your Bible i vomits on this issue
@Exposed Christianity
I guess all that vomiting comes from your practice while reading the quran and realizing that the quran is not eternal, was not sent down and has been changed by men. Oooops! Buuuuiiiiiicccckkkkk! Caaaaadillllaaaaac!!!!
Q4:82 applied ==> what did Al Lah create first, the earth or the heavens? Earth first Q2:29. Heavens first Q79:27-33.
Q4:82 applied ==> why did Al Lah abrogate the no compulsion in religion with violence and death for not converting or apostasy? No compulsion Q2:256. Violence, death or convert Q9:5, Q9:29.
Here is the only Question you need to answer: are you a good person? What standard do you use for measuring "good"? Do you use the standard (10) that was given to Moses (Musa)?
See what is haam doing
@@rashid4682 Did you say "see what God is doing?" or did you say "see what Ham is doing?" There is a big difference between what a man does and what God does. But not in Islam as Muhammad is worshipped like the black stone. See what Muhammad did to the 6 year old girl. See what Muhammad did to the man that would not tell him where the treasure was. See what Muhammad did to the poets and song writers that wrote and sang about him. Is that what you meant by see what Ham is doing?
@@dhc21atyahoo (The God of Bible is Idol of Stone)
Reference are mentioned below
Genesis ch.28 v.18&22
[18]And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it.
[22]And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
Psalm
Ch.59 V.9/Ch.59 V.16
Ch.59 V.17/Ch.16 V.3
Ch.62 V.2 to 3/Ch.44 V.1&2
God is High Tower,
Psalm
Ch.31 V.2&3/Ch.71 V.3
Ch.94 V.22
Proverbs
Ch.18 V.19
2/Samuel
Ch.22 V.3
God is Strong Rock
Psalms 84:11
God is a sun 🌞
Book of Revelation
Ch.21 v.23
23 The city does not need the sun 🌞 or the Moon 🌕 to lighten on it, the God lighten on it,
The 🌞 & 🌕 God
Finally
2nd Corinthians ch.4 v.4
The 😈 Satan is The God of this world
Isis(Moon 🌕 God)
Ra. ( Sun 🌞 God)
El(Supreme God of pagans)
Is+Ra+El= Moon 🌕 Sun 🌞 EL 3 Gods in One Trinity proved (IsRaEl)
Galatians/3.13
God is the Cursed
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