Why the US is Tempering its Support for Israel

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  • @EmreDemirkayaLoves
    @EmreDemirkayaLoves 9 місяців тому +1419

    It's actually the 45th time in UN history that America has vetoed resolutions in order to protect Israel

    • @armingleiner5292
      @armingleiner5292 9 місяців тому +2

      The UN needs to be abolished. A corrupt anti western organization funded by the west.

    • @unironically1
      @unironically1 9 місяців тому +65

      I'd like to add a source for that:
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93United_States_relations#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20financial%20and,veto%20has%20ever%20been%20used.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r 9 місяців тому

      As a taxpaying American, fuck Israel, they can deal with their own problems. $3.3bil a year to a nation with free healthcare? Something I don't even have? Absolutely not.

    • @JonSmith-hk1bq
      @JonSmith-hk1bq 9 місяців тому +40

      @@unironically1 Thank you for that scathing indictment against the UN.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 9 місяців тому +109

      And Russia has used its veto 123 times. So? Countries veto for their own national interests - shocker!

  • @Talisguy
    @Talisguy 9 місяців тому +976

    One other key aspect of the America/Israel alliance - President Ford briefly considered cutting off military aid back in the 70s, and this terrified the Israeli government so badly that they've worked overtime ever since to make sure that support for Israel is a bipartisan issue. Pro-Palestinian sentiment essentially got pushed out of the Overton Window in the US.

    • @HookedonChronics
      @HookedonChronics 9 місяців тому

      Until now thankfully. Boomers and Gen X might blindly support Israel, but people under 40 see them for what they are.

    • @EggsBenAddict
      @EggsBenAddict 9 місяців тому +8

      Where can I learn more?

    • @lukemurray4950
      @lukemurray4950 9 місяців тому +1

      The Israel lobby is huge and they also use the media to attack anyone who is against it as antisemitic to make it an impossible position to take.l for any US president.

    • @CDNinEGY
      @CDNinEGY 9 місяців тому +76

      @@EggsBenAddict try the internet

    • @jeddgangman4502
      @jeddgangman4502 9 місяців тому

      This probably wouldn’t work nowadays isreal is a pretty wealthy nation they can afford to wage the war without the us

  • @anderskorsback4104
    @anderskorsback4104 9 місяців тому +135

    There's also the fact that support for Israel among US Jews is no longer as near-universal as it once was, with the younger generations being increasingly critical. Polls have showed that as much as a quarter of US Jews have come to agree with the assertion that Israel is an apartheid state. In the US, the denomination with the highest rate of support for Israel is no longer Jews, but Evangelical Christians.

    • @Srange1
      @Srange1 9 місяців тому +8

      Discord Amongus Juice 😢

    • @olliegoria
      @olliegoria 9 місяців тому

      Israel has become the very thing that inspired its creation in the first place. The Christians probably support it more for its anti-Islam stance, since Christians and Muslims get along about as well as toothpaste and orange juice.

    • @strawberrykun6136
      @strawberrykun6136 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Srange1 What an great contribution!!

    • @mysteryuser7062
      @mysteryuser7062 9 місяців тому +1

      1/4 is definitely a minority of the group. Even then, the 1/4 just describes the “self-hating Jew” stereotype, likely reflective of *young* liberals that are just repeating what they read on social media
      Also, you’re misusing “apartheid”.

    • @mohammedashour6923
      @mohammedashour6923 9 місяців тому

      Funny enough Israel is mudering and desecrating Christian people and churches in Palestine for years now. Shows you how ignorant or unempathatic those Evangelical Christians really are…

  • @davidray6962
    @davidray6962 9 місяців тому +307

    Israeli policy toward other countries (including the US) has always been something like "screw you, we do what we want". They have no problem hurting US interests while accepting US aid. After decades of spitting in the face of those giving them gifts, they have no reason to think there will be a change. I would rather the US keep those billions in aid.

    • @TheDumplingGecko
      @TheDumplingGecko 9 місяців тому +23

      Exactly either you support isreal or not we are all so poor right now in the US. Inflation is crazy and the reality is this is hurting the people. Both Ukrainian and isreali war are hurting us but isreal can hold their own.

    • @lukemurray4950
      @lukemurray4950 9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly but people especially Americans need to look into how they actually feel about Americans, The West and even Christianity to understand what. They are supremacists.

    • @MrChowbaby69
      @MrChowbaby69 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@TheDumplingGecko I don't see how we are poor? I live in South Carolina and it's by nature a poor state yet people here have employment and food. Majority of them complain about stuff they want but don't need.

    • @Xardas131
      @Xardas131 9 місяців тому +2

      Wtf...

    • @supermanfan3113
      @supermanfan3113 9 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@TheDumplingGeckoinflation aint that bad here now
      It was terrible last year tho

  • @ashajeer2383
    @ashajeer2383 9 місяців тому +570

    It's insane that "don't kill civilians" has become such a contentious thing for the leader of the free world to say

    • @IlaiShoshani
      @IlaiShoshani 9 місяців тому +78

      Because he knows Israel already tried really hard to prevent civilian' deaths.

    • @thejollygreendragon8394
      @thejollygreendragon8394 9 місяців тому +236

      @@IlaiShoshani Do you work for the israeli propaganda department ?

    • @topgun1613
      @topgun1613 9 місяців тому +190

      @@IlaiShoshani how is a 9:1 ratio of civilan deaths to hamas deaths "trying hard" to avoid civilian deaths...

    • @Observer-O
      @Observer-O 9 місяців тому +33

      ​@@IlaiShoshani What made you think that?

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +9

      It's always been this way. Politics has always been unbelievably messy, with competing interests tying simple concepts or statements to huge webs of objectives.
      The biggest shift in recent years I've noticed, is the changing media and political landscape. With such oversaturation of information, and attention being at such scarcity, What a audience might hear about can be wildly different from another audience, and the partisan divide has become so inflammatory that any nuance or careful consideration is no longer possible for the vast majority of opinion leaders.
      It's an all or nothing arena, so the statement "don't kill civilians" is tied up with a myriad of other ideas, positions and baggage that the President cannot say it without also saying a dozen other things to different audiences.
      It's a really sad state our democracies are in but the political and media elite divert our anger and attention from the system itself, to each other.

  • @yotadisigma
    @yotadisigma 9 місяців тому +366

    TLDR of the TLDR: Unless a hundred miracles happen, the US government will continue to support Israel unconditionally in whatever they do.

    • @patrickkirby6580
      @patrickkirby6580 9 місяців тому +1

      The fact that millions of Jewish Americans are holding anti Israel protests is a miracle itself

    • @CloneMarine0
      @CloneMarine0 9 місяців тому

      Unless your a nazi

    • @LittkeTM
      @LittkeTM 9 місяців тому +7

      It reminds me of all the times Israel humiliated the Soviet and Russian militaries.

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 9 місяців тому

      To not support Israel would be hypocrisy. The War on Terror, after 4000 dead on 911, devastated two entire countries and cost maybe a million lives. 7 Oct on the US population would equal 40,000 dead. 911 did not kill their babies, children or old folks, no torture, no butchery, no rape, no hostages held as human shields. The US went find the perpetrators and bring them to Justice, and her allies supported her. How many countries on that UN vote, suffering that horror, would not do the same thing themselves? I think they hypocrites to vote against Israel - talk big on a world stage, no consequences, no "skin in the game". I support Israel, not Jewish, no connection. But if that happened to my country - I totally support the right of self defence that Israel is exercising.

    • @rickyspanish4792
      @rickyspanish4792 9 місяців тому +11

      Yeah I was hoping this video would make me a bit less depressed but ehh 😮‍💨

  • @RezaEskandary
    @RezaEskandary 9 місяців тому +163

    Just a simple correction: The last Iranian Shah was "Mohammad Reza Pahlavi" not "Pahlavith". And also "Reza" is both his father's and his son's name.

    • @linusminus3
      @linusminus3 9 місяців тому +9

      Commenting so boost this comment:
      It's really a stupid mistake make, writer only needs to read 2 Wiki-pages to correct that

    • @MohammedAli-hl4mr
      @MohammedAli-hl4mr 9 місяців тому +2

      @@museli_addict because the Bosnians are white people they are literally Europeans, whereas the majority of Israelis arrived from Europe and settled the land while it was under colonial rule that most Jewish people arrived without the wishes of the locals taken into account and actively ignored, no one would give up over half of what would otherwise be there nation and hand over over half of the land to a group of people who in living memory have for the most part never stood on the land prior and came from an entirely different continent

    • @MohammedAli-hl4mr
      @MohammedAli-hl4mr 9 місяців тому

      @@museli_addict imagine deleting your original comment to hide your stupid comment and than rather than acknowledging your mistake like an adult replying with a sarcastic comment and ending with lol and laughter emojis like a twelve year old.

    • @manghariz2211
      @manghariz2211 9 місяців тому

      ​@@linusminus3 Yeah very weird, considering the host pronounce it more closed to what it is.
      Kinda weird that the writer/editor didnt

    • @bolsa3136
      @bolsa3136 9 місяців тому

      That was 80y ago. How can you expel 4 generations from a place?

  • @sagi21
    @sagi21 9 місяців тому +18

    8:17 "we won't go back to Oslo" is a wrong translation. The correct translation is: "we won't repeat [the mistake of] Oslo"

    • @sagi21
      @sagi21 9 місяців тому +3

      נחזור אל... = ...go back to
      נחזור על... = ...repeat

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 9 місяців тому +2

      Which makes more sense, because the current Israeli government certainly upholds everything about Oslo other than the peace process. That is, the interim arrangement that it stipulates for the occupied territories until a peace treaty is made, one where the Palestinian Authority has limited autonomy over a small (but populous) part of the area, while Israel controls everything that matters for Israel. An arrangement that has turned into de facto apartheid, but Israel can dodge said accusation of by pointing to the "interim" part.

  • @specialagent1868
    @specialagent1868 9 місяців тому +91

    Israel isnt in danger of losing US government support anytime soon but they are likely to lose support as time goes on given that recent polling from YouGov shows young people dislike Israel.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому

      Young people dislike Israel and love islamic terrorism. It's crazy, but I believe this will change, because the Youth that hates Israel is the same Youth that doesn't want to birth children :P

    • @museli_addict
      @museli_addict 9 місяців тому

      Young people would also vote in socialism and destroy their own economy. They are nothing more than useful idiots

    • @fungalbob
      @fungalbob 9 місяців тому +12

      Young people grow up

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому +13

      these young people are already grown ups. But they are most likely not going to raise future generations. Because they have antinatalist tendencies. @@fungalbob

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 9 місяців тому +3

      only the kids who haven't studied the history of the conflict.

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 9 місяців тому +161

    I've always had the impression that the US comes across as weak when it comes to Israel, like the US doesn't have an independent voice on the matter, they always seem to bend to the will of Israel, regardless of what Israel does.
    It does make you wonder, does Israel have a major hold over the US or are they really this blind when it comes to Israel? don't get me wrong, I can understand supporting Israel when it's right to do so, but clearly the US supports Israel no matter what, Israel is taking advantage of that by abusing that power and doing this it likely normally wouldn't do, and by not de-escalating the situation, the US is actually helping to keep the war going.
    Don't get me wrong, Israel has a right to defend its self, but it's clear to see that Israel is going too far, the US is one of the few guilty parties that is allowing that to happen.

    • @alwaysdisputin9930
      @alwaysdisputin9930 9 місяців тому

      I think maybe it's like this:
      Israel "lobbies" US politicians i.e. they give them bribes.
      Then US politicians have "unconditional support" for Israel & give them billions of weapons & dollars.
      Then Israel uses some of that money to lobby US politicians & the cycle repeats.

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +9

      I think it's largely apathy honestly.
      We hear stories of wars and atrocities coming out that region every year.
      The U.S is Israel's ally because back in the cold war, it was a good geopolitical move to protect their interests in the region.
      Now though? Frankly Israel hasn't given the U.S anything of value for years. The interests in the region are becoming weaker and weaker.
      For the last few crisis', I think the US has supported Israel simply because they're an ally and again, crisis' are coming out that region every other month, so meh might as well go with who we've always gone with.
      With this latest escalation though, the U.S is in a tight spot and I kinda doubt the U.S's support will hold if Israel keeps biting the hand that feeds them.
      Biden wants to uphold a commitment to allies and truthfully, the status quo would be the best outcome for him. But with the discussion so heated, apathy likely won't be enough for the U.S to let Israel do whatever it wants while keeping it an ally.
      It seems Biden is trying really hard to keep up Alliance appearances to China and other rivals, while behind closed doors trying to get Israel to back down. But his wrists are tied and he's probably under a whole lot of stress to be more decisive, so it'll be interesting to see where US - Israel relations go moving forward.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 9 місяців тому

      Groups like AIPAC are funding campaigns against politicians who have called for a ceasefire in Israel, the support for Israel in the US is just good politics if you want to get re-elected or elected. As long as the US political funding system remains the same it will always be influenced by money.

    • @michaelotieno6524
      @michaelotieno6524 9 місяців тому +29

      In 1990 George H.W Bush had promised the Arabs that he would restart the Israel - Palestine peace process in exchange for Arab support against the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. Bush wanted Israel to promise not to build new settlements in exchange for the US providing it with 10 Billion USD in loan guarantees. Israel attempted to go behind his back by approaching the Speaker of the house who was a democrat to pass a separate funding bill with no such conditions. That didn't work.
      In 2014 Netanyahu attempted the same thing with Obama and the Iran nuclear deal it also failed.

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 9 місяців тому +1

      @@oriontigley5089I agree with this sentiment. Egypt has a population of 111 million people, how the fuck do they have that many people. Gaza population constantly grows. All these countries nearby have massive population, constant instability, authoritarian governments, apathetic people, undemocratic cultures. Israel is the only functional democratic country. I don't like their actions but their potential is far better than their neighbors.

  • @Nasir3623
    @Nasir3623 9 місяців тому +142

    It’s insane that “don’t kill civilians” has become such a contentious thing for the leader of the free world to say.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому +21

      you clearly know nothing about war. Just tell me, which war in the past 20 years was about the civilians? Please also focus on wars that happened recently and are still going on. Like the wars in Ethiopia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen.
      Where is the international support for civilians there? Especially the ones in Africa are suffering much more than people in Gaza. Yet nobody cares. Why? Why don't they matter?

    • @gfys756
      @gfys756 9 місяців тому

      ​@@pikapi6993Because white liberals don't care about Africa.

    • @willjapheth23789
      @willjapheth23789 9 місяців тому +10

      ​​@@pikapi6993 tldr does a good job covering that. Are you saying you like what happened in Ethiopia?

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому +9

      I am talking about the UN and activists. The SG Guterres apparently doesn't even know what's going on in the world. That there are several wars with many civilian deaths happening right now.
      Pro Palestinians are crying that nobody cares about Muslims in Gaza, when they are the ones who are silent about Muslims being genocided by other Muslims in Sudan currently.
      Muslim countries are refusing to make Sudan a top topic at the Un. They are protecting the UAE that is funding the RSF militia in Sudan. Muslim countries are 56 countries in the UN. They have the power to make resolutions fail. With their vote and with pressuring other countries who want to have their Oil.
      This is not about civilians at all. Civilians are suffering so much in Sudan and Ethiopia currently, yet nobody cares. But they claim that they care about Gazans. It's clearly about hating Israel and trying to stop Israel from ending Hamas.
      Other countries are allowed to have endless wars, with endless civilian deaths. How many more deaths are we going to see in Yemen? Saudi Arabia isn't efficient. They don't have the balls to end the Houthis. They just bomb them occasionally instead of finishing the job. Why is there zero pressure on them?
      @@willjapheth23789

    • @ratchetrock443
      @ratchetrock443 9 місяців тому

      @@pikapi6993good read…

  • @rlife7853
    @rlife7853 9 місяців тому +140

    "It is the best 3 billion dollar investment we make. Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region"
    ~Biden 1986

    • @NotUnymous
      @NotUnymous 9 місяців тому

      Sure. True in 1986. Now, nearly half a century later, Israel became a fascist regime that commits genocide and unspeakable horrors.
      You know,... people change over time...

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +21

      Yes, back then.
      Now, though; what interests do we have for the region?

    • @Astrochimp88
      @Astrochimp88 9 місяців тому +29

      ​​@@oriontigley5089 The exact same the US had back than.. Do you think some major change happened?

    • @thedude1666
      @thedude1666 9 місяців тому +20

      Total waste of money.

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl 9 місяців тому +20

      @@oriontigley5089oil, natural resources, cheap Labour, opposes China and Russia.

  • @MaRoCimHaYaB
    @MaRoCimHaYaB 9 місяців тому +6

    الحقيقة أن إسرائيل تمثل حاملة طائرات وثكنة عسكرية لأمريكا في الشرق الأوسط، ولن تهملها حتى لو كان الثمن هو إفقار الشعب الأمريكي.

  • @AndyLee-xm2lo
    @AndyLee-xm2lo 9 місяців тому +12

    Thanks for the segment, really enjoying this type of reporting. No fluff. Also loving the Givewell partnership! Very apt.

  • @Sigskogi
    @Sigskogi 9 місяців тому +19

    Those 3 issues they mentioned are pretty impactful ones, but all 3 pale in comparison to how much the Evangelical Christians support Israel (literal rapture stuff the new speaker of the house has mentioned), which has certainly explained the large Republican support staying strong.

    • @oohhboy-funhouse
      @oohhboy-funhouse 9 місяців тому

      Their rational is bats*** insane. The Jews and Israel are the chosen, thus if not supported unconditionally, they won't be raptured.

    • @yimhappy
      @yimhappy 9 місяців тому

      Yep. Evangelicals... Since the 70's, the idea has been floating around that Israel's destruction kicks off Armageddon or the End Times. There was a best selling book about that, "The Late Great Planet Earth". Hard to believe. But I guess I wouldn't want to see Israel destroyed either.

  • @whattheydidnttellyouwithbr2844
    @whattheydidnttellyouwithbr2844 9 місяців тому +73

    In addition, the Bear Hug strategy also doesn't make sense since Arab countries tend to hate Israel so having a close relationship with Israel means a rocky start in having creating a close relationship with them. Furthermore Israel has never contributed troops for military or humanitarian purposes to any US led intervention or invasion.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 9 місяців тому

      we don't want closer relations with arab countries, oil is becoming obselete and they are savages with nothing else to offer us

    • @potat2976
      @potat2976 9 місяців тому +9

      As an Egyptian, I cannot agree more

    • @isroor
      @isroor 9 місяців тому +1

      As a Saudi I can not agree more

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 9 місяців тому +7

      Also, to actually get influence by giving stuff, you must be ready to withhold the stuff if you don't get your way, otherwise the recipient has no reason to comply with your requests. There's no way Netanyahu would do Biden political favours just because he likes Biden. On the contrary, anything that undermines Biden increases the chance of a second Trump presidency, which Netanyahu would very much like.

    • @manghariz2211
      @manghariz2211 9 місяців тому

      You misunderstood
      The bear hug strategy here is toward Israeli Government.
      USA turn a blind eye and give them a blank cheque to do anything, because USA want to earn Netanyahu's trust.
      Although I agree that, by sticking with Israel, USA jeopardized a lot of diplomatic relationship with many arab state.
      For these arab state, USA's support against Israel is a doozy, on one hand, they know USA is their major Ally (atleast a major guarantor of their governance) but on other hand, USA has become an enemy that their population hate. They are in a precarious situation and probably unsure wether they are going to continue their relationship with US after the current conflict somehow resolved.
      It also didnt help that, these arab state were recently trying to normalize relations with Israel. Now the war is on, they have to break all of those diplomatic efforts, especially because of the brutal invasion.

  • @allanflippin2453
    @allanflippin2453 9 місяців тому +43

    Regarding Biden's lessened support among Arab Americans: If they don't vote for Biden, who will they vote for? Trump? You know, the guy that moved the US embassy to Jerusalem. The guy that licks Netanyahu's boots? Please.... this is a "frying pan into the fire" situation.

    • @gfys756
      @gfys756 9 місяців тому

      Trump will be in the Gulags. How are Arabs gonna vote for him, even if they wanted to? 😂

    • @2015BLOXXER
      @2015BLOXXER 9 місяців тому

      They say the won’t vote biden but they will anyway since trump is like devil in their eyes

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 9 місяців тому

      Right? Biden has been trying to calm Israel down. If anything, he is better for Arabs. But, once again Arabs do things against their own self interests.

    • @enriqueperezarce5485
      @enriqueperezarce5485 9 місяців тому

      Arab Americans don’t have much political power, they at most make up 3.5 million and not all of them would be pro-Palestine as they would think Hamas is the aggressor

    • @jobloluther
      @jobloluther 9 місяців тому +32

      Arab Americans are just not gonna vote

  • @randomname9291
    @randomname9291 9 місяців тому +14

    1:25 you have a typo here, you wrote absatin instead of “abstain”

    • @MartelSays
      @MartelSays 9 місяців тому

      Freudian slip on their part haha

    • @randomname9291
      @randomname9291 9 місяців тому

      @@MartelSays how so

  • @ninj4geek
    @ninj4geek 9 місяців тому +33

    According to the graphic, the UK didn't Abstain. They "Absatin"ed

  • @joefarrow1599
    @joefarrow1599 9 місяців тому +31

    I have been wondering what the answers to all these questions are for ages now this video was great thank you

  • @jcdg6288
    @jcdg6288 9 місяців тому +4

    other states with veto power should be able to overturn a veto unanimously. It doesn’t make sense a single country should be able to veto a majority vote by the UN.

    • @Vitorruy1
      @Vitorruy1 7 місяців тому

      This kind of power is what allowed the UN to exist in the first place

  • @kevinmacintyre4003
    @kevinmacintyre4003 9 місяців тому +6

    I know you can't include all information but I find it fascinating that the religious right is apparently required by their religion to support Israel in all things. For the End of Times to happen we have religions that ignore morality and religious teachings. Another of the mystery of religions.

  • @Elemblue2
    @Elemblue2 9 місяців тому +6

    Everyone is observing this voting system as if the people inside of the system dont also know how it works.
    If you in a situation where a country can unilaterally cancel your vote, then all your vote is is a flag. The people voting know that. So its a political opportunity to push all the blame and political backlash of this war onto the US by simply voting against with no consequences. If the US was not there, the vote would look different because suddenly it would mean something.

  • @dannoakl
    @dannoakl 9 місяців тому +8

    Reason 4: corruption, campaign donations, etc.

  • @James-ke5sx
    @James-ke5sx 9 місяців тому +67

    Canada voted in favour of a non-binding resolution at the United Nations on Tuesday that calls for "an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.

    • @saus9870
      @saus9870 9 місяців тому

      Canada is a communist country and a dictatorship screw that goverment.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому +10

      I wonder why they keep on doing this. Hamas broke two ceasefires in three months.

    • @patrickkirby6580
      @patrickkirby6580 9 місяців тому +6

      @@pikapi6993does hamas holds a seat in the UN ??

    • @_Helicam_
      @_Helicam_ 9 місяців тому +5

      @@patrickkirby6580 No, that's ridiculous. It has 58 seats.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому

      Yes, they do. All of their sponsors are. Qatar, Iran are the fathers of Hamas and manpulating everything in Hamas favour together with all of the other islamic countries (56 are in the UN). They protect each others crimes against their own people and they work together in order to undermine Israel. The UN is corrupt. @@patrickkirby6580

  • @zuzuzuko3947
    @zuzuzuko3947 9 місяців тому +6

    In summary unconditional support for Israel had become a dead weight then an asset for the US

    • @hr-g4640
      @hr-g4640 9 місяців тому

      the dead weight are the brown people who got taught that white people are evil and that's the only reason they are against Israel

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 9 місяців тому +4

      It never was an asset, all arguments for it being one are made after the fact to justify the support for Israel. The real reason was always that certain US domestic constituencies want it. It's telling that when asked what the US benefits from its relationship with Israel, the most frequent answer by far is "intelligence cooperation", an answer that is rhetorically convenient due to being effectively unfalsifiable due to the secrecy surrounding such matters.
      The whole point about "countering Soviet influence" during the Cold War is rather moot when considering that said Soviet influence wouldn't be a thing in the first place if not for US support for Israel causing surrounding Arab states to see the Soviet Union as a defender against Western imperialism. The biggest gain in US influence over the Soviet Union in the area didn't follow any Israeli victory or other action, but US-sponsored peace between Israel and Egypt, which in one swoop snatched Egypt into the US sphere of influence.

  • @Joey_Hamlet
    @Joey_Hamlet 9 місяців тому +4

    Is it just me or has there been a background hiss form the microphone in the last few videos across the TLDR channels?

    • @potat2976
      @potat2976 9 місяців тому

      Oh yeah, but you gotta put it next to your ear, so you sir have bat ears

  • @mx338
    @mx338 9 місяців тому +22

    That mildly calling out war crimes and genocide, somehow is notable shows how screwed this situation is.

    • @RNA0ROGER
      @RNA0ROGER 9 місяців тому

      The first and only reality of war crimes is that the winning side is never guilty of them.

  • @HasnaaAlaa
    @HasnaaAlaa 9 місяців тому +41

    Thank you for honest and unbiased reporting ❤

    • @sfp2290
      @sfp2290 9 місяців тому +3

      They are certainly doing as much as can be expected of them. But unbiased reporting, is just as difficult to reach, as perfection.
      You can get very close on individual videos, which report specific news stories. But the choice of news stories you decide to pick, along with what information you decide to report, as opposed to information you choose to leave out, will all contribute towards a specific, biased, framing.
      If you believe they are completely unbiased, then I believe, it is because they frame it in a way, that support your own point of views. The good old Confirmation Bias.

    • @reddykilowatt
      @reddykilowatt 9 місяців тому

      @@sfp2290why what is the bias? yours? 😂😂

  • @MichaelCampbell01
    @MichaelCampbell01 9 місяців тому +5

    I get China's angle here, but I'm not sure I'd consider an inconsistent view of human rights to forward a country's foreign policy out of the ordinary. The opposite would be quite shocking.

    • @Threezi04
      @Threezi04 9 місяців тому

      True but going mask off with the facade still hurts USA's relations in favour of China in Latin America and Africa.

  • @jimthepyroful
    @jimthepyroful 9 місяців тому +3

    I love that they show blank ammunition being produced for Israel, if only. And why put the US is tempering its support in the title, and then say they are not doing that at all in the first 3 minutes?

  • @good8072
    @good8072 9 місяців тому +2

    The people begging for aid are making demands that doesn't even make sense to me.

  • @DavidVreeland-tr1dv
    @DavidVreeland-tr1dv 9 місяців тому +26

    Why do people say Palestine has been colonized since 1948?
    Like was 1948. The year colonization began? Because it was literally a British colony before that. And before that it was a territory of the Ottoman Empire. Why do they say for the last 75 years when it should be for the last 500 years.
    Like I’ve never heard a Ukrainian say their oppression began in the 1920s when the Soviets conquered the Ukraine. They’ll tell you it began much earlier the first time they were occupied.

    • @zdvickery
      @zdvickery 9 місяців тому +6

      It's because they are fine living with Brits or other muslims

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +3

      The details are selective depending on what narrative someone's trying to spin

    • @alwaysdisputin9930
      @alwaysdisputin9930 9 місяців тому +17

      IMO, it's because the Jews were faced with a threat to their existence & had to create a country & so sent millions of people & brutally forced millions of Palestinians from their homes & stole their land.
      Whereas the Brits generally just want wealth & sent a relatively small number of people to each country in the world & tried to extract each country's wealth. Hence UK is 6th largest economy in the world despite being a relatively small island.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому

      Because it is Propaganda. Fakestine never existed.

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 9 місяців тому +6

      Was never a british colony, was just a region they ruled. Don't conflate colonialism with the west.

  • @inaworldfulloftrashbagsbet2023
    @inaworldfulloftrashbagsbet2023 9 місяців тому +2

    Very weird that you changed the title lol, the original one was explicitly saying that US supporting israel is risky

  • @jbonner01
    @jbonner01 9 місяців тому

    You misspelt abstain in the voting graphic. Great video though!

  • @TheCat48488
    @TheCat48488 9 місяців тому +21

    Kinda sad someone once said, "if there is peace in middle east, the world ends"

    • @omar619kamis
      @omar619kamis 9 місяців тому +6

      United middleeast would be horrible for the US interest, the whole purpose is to be the most powerful country, having middleast join together along with Egypt and others in Africa would threaten this

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri 9 місяців тому

      @@omar619kamis lol USA haven't done anything to prevent "united middle-east". It's region led by brutal and greedy dictators by people who have tribal conflicts with each others. Their unison is impossible.

    • @TheCat48488
      @TheCat48488 9 місяців тому +3

      @@omar619kamis won't happen, they disliked each other more

    • @omar619kamis
      @omar619kamis 9 місяців тому

      @@TheCat48488 ik but if it were to happen it would be a big problemo

    • @berkekadircelik6282
      @berkekadircelik6282 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@omar619kamiswelp, no need to even think about that since that's basically impossible.

  • @mahmoedmhmed5975
    @mahmoedmhmed5975 9 місяців тому +12

    Now you have created a monster and now u can't contain it

  • @GenericInternetter
    @GenericInternetter 9 місяців тому +3

    Why not mention the massive proportion of US government officials who hold US-Israeli dual citizenship?
    Israel is essentially a 51st state in all but name.

  • @XSpImmaLion
    @XSpImmaLion 9 місяців тому +11

    Most democrats are not anti-Israel, they are anti-Netanyahu specifically.
    I have nothing against Israel citizens, Jews, and I'm staunchly against anti-Semitism. From the beginning I have also been appalled by Hamas attack against Israel citizens.
    That does not mean that I'm about to support a genocide against people living in Gaza, quite the opposite. It's because I'm against the widespread violence in the region that I'm against what Netanyahu is doing there, as many Israel citizens also are.
    In fact, a whole ton of people in Israel have been protesting against Netanyahu exactly because of his authoritarian positioning. And the guy is so vile that he's spitting on the grave of victims of terrorism to advance his genocidal agenda.
    Now, Biden has become accessory to Gaza genocide. Democrats should kick him out and chose someone else to be their candidate for presidency. In fact, I've been in favor of another democrat to be the party's candidate since before Biden became president, not because of his age, but because of his own policy contradictions. I don't consider him a democrat, he's just a centrist with a right leaning.
    This time, it isn't Trump extremists that are endangering US democracy, it's Biden himself. I know this basically never happens in US political history, but I hope Democrats wake up to what is happening, stop Biden's bid for re-election, and put someone else to represent them.

    • @s.b.662
      @s.b.662 8 місяців тому

      The violence, the human rights abuse, the settlements, the occupation all of it existed way before Nethanyahu. In 1948 for example started the Nakba with the massacre of Deir Yassin and operation cast dey bread and before that Palestinians were increasingly banned from using their land. And you definitely shouldn't equate Jewish people with Israel. But I see where you are coming from.

  • @Saucisse_Praxis
    @Saucisse_Praxis 9 місяців тому +3

    Finally hoping that the US stays loyal to its declarations for Ukraine's support. Things are looking real bad from Europe rn. Put some efforts where they matter instead of supporting regimes in Israel and Turkey juzt because they have geostrategic significance.

    • @s.b.662
      @s.b.662 8 місяців тому

      Why do you trust the US? You think they support Ukraine out of good-heartedness? They drop them as soon as it's not profitable anymore and with them us Europeans as a whole.

  • @jayforeman5299
    @jayforeman5299 9 місяців тому +9

    US support of Israel or any country for that matter should never be unconditional. Netenyahu is an extremist, Biden needs to be more forceful with him but ultimately it's down to Isrealis to choose a better leader who actually wants peace.

    • @mrb152
      @mrb152 9 місяців тому

      "Netenyahu is an extremist" Why do Hamas lovers keep using this lie? Literally any leader in Israel would be doing what Israel is doing right now. How do we know this? Because the administration right now is a unity government fully backed by Benny Gantz, the centrist opposition leader. In fact, if Netenyahu was not Israel PM, Israel would have more left wingers on their side to be far less increminetal in their war on Hamas.

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 9 місяців тому

    Never forget the "Egyptian ship" USS Liberty!

  • @jbshiva865
    @jbshiva865 9 місяців тому +4

    Biden is cooling a bit on the current conflict because support amongst the American public, and especially the Democrat base has cratered. But make no mistake, Biden has been an ardent supporter of Israel his whole political career and I'm not seeing any signs of that changing on his personal end. But his recent comments reflect Biden acknowledging that he needs to do more of a balancing act in this situation.

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +2

      Agreed.
      The President is in a tough spot, with dozens of political motivations pulling him all different directions. It certainly doesn't help that this has become an almost partisan issue

    • @patriciabates-c4s
      @patriciabates-c4s 9 місяців тому

      "Balancing act???". " be more careful". These are very mild statements for the murder of civilians, letting babies decompose in incubators, shooting a child in the back of the head!!! Not to mention all the other WAR CRIMES. "You go careful now" is hardly the language I would use for vicious, unforgivable murders. Thousands dead. Many mote rotting under the rubble. Heinous, barbaric, inhumane would be more suitable don't you think??? What else will Biden suggest? "Hold mummy's hand whilst we bleed to death". It's madness.

    • @lanxy2398
      @lanxy2398 9 місяців тому

      @@oriontigley5089He isn’t in a tough spot his administration knows he won’t win in 2024 lol

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому

      Even if he isn't counting on a reelection, he is still responsible enough to not want to actively sabotage American interests. He's not going to go all "fuck it" on his job like a minimum wage worker who just got their 2 weeks notice.@@lanxy2398

    • @flavio7180
      @flavio7180 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@lanxy2398I wouldn't be so sure. Obviously anything could happen, but in a rematch between Biden and Trump, I could see Biden winning again.

  • @boulderarchitect
    @boulderarchitect 9 місяців тому +3

    Here’s to hoping for peace in the Middle East in our lifetime ✌️

  • @William2669
    @William2669 9 місяців тому +40

    As an eu citizen, I was always a supporter for the US. I would always cheer for a democrat to be elected as it often was the better outcome for Europe in regards with diplomacy and security. When the US sent aid to Ukraine, I couldn’t have cheered louder for the aid against Russian aggression.
    But this has completely burned me and several others I know who shared my viewpoint on the US. The hypocrisy of condemning Russia and supporting Israel so unconditionally has soured people’s moods here. (Prob doesn’t help I have lots of Arab friends tbh). For us, we now see no difference between a Republican or Democrat president. No matter who sits in the White House, the US cannot be trusted. In the end they will serve their own interests no matter what. They don’t care about other people and countries past “what can do they for us.”
    I legit am rooting for the democrats to loose the next election and loose it so utterly and completely that maybe, just maybe, they will be forced to take such a hard look in the mirror and reinvent themselves.
    For my friends living in the US, I of course don’t want them to live another 4 years under Trump or some Trump lapdog but from a purely international, eu centric perspective, what’s the difference? Whether it’s a democrat or republican, the US will abandon us on the flip of a coin. At least the republicans are honest about it.

    • @tequilamockingbird758
      @tequilamockingbird758 9 місяців тому

      Democrats have turned into the party of war.

    • @smokeyplane3285
      @smokeyplane3285 9 місяців тому +10

      Your mistake was trusting our government, leave us alone

    • @schrodingerscat7252
      @schrodingerscat7252 9 місяців тому

      It's nothing but pure Racism and Islamophobia. When light skinned blonde Christians in Ukraine were attacked by Russia, everyone started crying.
      But for the western world, life of brown and black people doesn't matter, especially if they are not Christian

    • @sidschukowv6677
      @sidschukowv6677 9 місяців тому +4

      my words exactly! Never Again!

    • @sparks1792
      @sparks1792 9 місяців тому +13

      So basically you liked it when we paid for you and not when it’s something else

  • @DT-yn7fj
    @DT-yn7fj 8 місяців тому

    That’s strange that the UK chose to “absatin“

  • @ZombieNick9
    @ZombieNick9 9 місяців тому +15

    posting this to stop all the "first" people from being first.

  • @tysonlesson
    @tysonlesson 9 місяців тому +53

    Russia cut out electricity supply to Ukrainian city
    US and EU : that's a war crime and genocide.
    Israel cut out supply of water and food to gaza strip in 2 million people
    US and EU : israel has right to defend itself. That's a self defence
    US and EU is ignoring israeli war crimes in gaza while accusing Russia of war crimes 😀

    • @B-S-H
      @B-S-H 9 місяців тому

      Israel’s actions in Gaza are a measure taken to prevent the smuggling of weapons and other materials that could be used to harm Israeli citizens.
      And Israel has been providing humanitarian aid to Gaza despite the ongoing conflict, including food, medicine, and other essential supplies. In contrast, Russia’s actions in Ukraine are an act of aggression and a violation of international law.
      + US and EU have been critical of Israel’s actions in Gaza and have called for an end to the blockade. However, they have also condemned Russia’s actions in Ukraine and have imposed sanctions on Russia. It is important to note that the US and EU have been consistent in their condemnation of human rights abuses and violations of international law, regardless of the country involved.

    • @panickedpan875
      @panickedpan875 9 місяців тому

      Yes the US is hypocritical. Congrats you discovered warm water.
      Does US hypocrisy justify russian crimes? No, absolutly not. No side is in the right other than the civilians caught in the mess.
      So stfu pro-Putin tankie that ya are and learn that we live in a shitty world where the only true good thing are the victims

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +3

      While yes, there's hypocrisy there, but the underlying reasons stem from Geopolitics.
      We cannot allow the war on Ukraine to persist lest we allow the industrial warfare taboo to be broken, which would give China the political space to invade Taiwan.
      If Taiwan falls to China, China will have a economical stranglehold on basically all modern technology across the world. That'd be game over.
      Isreal and Gaza on the other hand... both sides have been horrid to each other, both sides claim to be the victim yet both commit war crimes. It is a localized conflict and frankly, the West has very little geopolitical incentive to care.
      Gaza wins? Isreal wins? It's just villains fighting villains with nothing to offer us.

    • @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking
      @Noidonteatbabiesstopasking 9 місяців тому

      I am shitting your pants

    • @fredrick1176
      @fredrick1176 9 місяців тому +7

      Also key difference, one side blatantly invade and butchered babies and women, why the other surprise attacked cuz they wanted more land

  • @jeremiahjewell3398
    @jeremiahjewell3398 9 місяців тому +1

    Really, really hate the framing of American Jews constituting a “Jewish diaspora”… A diaspora from where? Israel? Jewish communities in the US have existed for far, far longer than Israel has.

  • @ndc5544p
    @ndc5544p 9 місяців тому

    I'm watching your channel for a while now and I got one big criticism: the image of your studio somehow looks like there's smoke in the room? I find it really distracting and takes away from the general very good quality of your videos.

  • @johnclark2212
    @johnclark2212 9 місяців тому +27

    With friends like Israel and the Saudis, the U S does not need enemy's.

    • @user-op4ft4yh5f
      @user-op4ft4yh5f 9 місяців тому

      shut up you 🤐🤐🤐🤫

    • @extrapolate
      @extrapolate 9 місяців тому

      Would you rather the US cozy up to the genocidal regimes of Iran, Russia and China you Neo communist?

    • @jhingoorpatima237
      @jhingoorpatima237 9 місяців тому

      Bibi and mbs boss of trump !!!! Waiting for 2024 to see trump dancing with arabs dictators putin talibans in saudi A !!! Trump will move UN to saudi A and white house to iran !!!! Where is Abraham accord? Where is peace? Jared took 3 years to prepare the deal!!! Zero results while Jared runaway with billions in his pocket !!!

  • @AradSP
    @AradSP 9 місяців тому +1

    Yes! Yes! Ditch it already!

  • @ninoy4914
    @ninoy4914 9 місяців тому +18

    Biden: Can you pls stop doing war crimes?
    Israel: No.
    Biden: ok, here is billions of aid, lovw u

    • @Vitorruy1
      @Vitorruy1 7 місяців тому

      As if there woudn't be any aid if Biden wasn there lol

  • @scottsimon1
    @scottsimon1 9 місяців тому +5

    Arab Americans are not a factor in elections. They are only 0.5%of the population and most of them are in Michigan where they makeup only 2% of the population, not enough to swing an election. Most American support for Israel comes from Evangelical Christians in the south & they are key factors in the election.

    • @reiudfgq3vrh34ur
      @reiudfgq3vrh34ur 9 місяців тому

      2% in a swing state like Michigan is important but also there are many democrats pro palestine mainly from the progressive wing

    • @anderskorsback4104
      @anderskorsback4104 9 місяців тому +2

      Most Southern states aren't swing states though. Michigan is.

    • @Threezi04
      @Threezi04 9 місяців тому +3

      You forget that last election Michigan's vote was so close it was roughly similar to the percentage of Arab Americans living there, they very much could swing the state.

  • @kelvinnkat
    @kelvinnkat 9 місяців тому

    Anyone else notice a weird stitch near the beginning of the video? And that at 1:20 it says "ABSATIN" instead of "ABSTAIN"?

  • @ARIXANDRE
    @ARIXANDRE 9 місяців тому +7

    Probably not ditch, but if Bibi can drag this till November 2024, he'll get a bigger ally.

    • @1mol831
      @1mol831 9 місяців тому

      Who?

  • @fnjesusfreak
    @fnjesusfreak 9 місяців тому +8

    Historically, Israel has been a blind spot for American Democrats.

  • @cheeriou4505
    @cheeriou4505 7 місяців тому +1

    3:42 ”Net sympathy for Israel hovered at around +50”
    No it didn’t. It clearly shows in the chart on screen that it only ever reached 50 once and mostly stayed in the region of +40.
    You also spell “abstain” wrong earlier in the piece.
    Please do better. If you want to be a serious news organisation, act like one.

    • @cheeriou4505
      @cheeriou4505 7 місяців тому +1

      Reza Pahlavi’s name is spelt extremely wrong.

  • @Buckwheat_Rain
    @Buckwheat_Rain 9 місяців тому

    People who lived on the same territory with terrorists in Gaza and were out of politics are not equated with accomplices?

  • @thematthew761
    @thematthew761 9 місяців тому +26

    As an American, the US not supporting a humanitarian ceasefire for civilians is just embarassing.

    • @Konohaflash
      @Konohaflash 9 місяців тому +1

      When Hamas repeatedly violates the ceasefire, continues to fire rockets into Israel, and states they want to do the attacks of Oct 7th repeatedly, how can you expect a ceasefire?

    • @thematthew761
      @thematthew761 9 місяців тому +1

      I sympathize with Israel but I also think Biden hasn't handled the situation well@@Konohaflash

    • @agent6599
      @agent6599 9 місяців тому

      Would you have wanted the US to make peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan during WW2? If not why would you want them to make peace with the Nazi terrorist group Hamas who wants to eradicate Jews?

    • @willjapheth23789
      @willjapheth23789 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Konohaflash makes you think maybe hamas also doesn't want a ceasefire and hopes Israel will escalated the conflict or atleast ensure Israel can't make peace with other Arabs.

  • @KamiInValhalla
    @KamiInValhalla 9 місяців тому +3

    US support of Israel reminds me of parents that day their child can do no wrong despite everyone else saying that the child is a bugger

  • @ahmetkarl1229
    @ahmetkarl1229 9 місяців тому +5

    That title is the funniest joke I’ve heard this month.

    • @grandtheftavocado
      @grandtheftavocado 9 місяців тому

      There are too many dual US-Israeli citizens in our government to even threaten to decrease our support and giving Jews everything they want

  • @danielgilleland8611
    @danielgilleland8611 9 місяців тому +16

    This report would have been a LOT more balanced if there was also stats about how many resolutions the UN has made against Israel vs. all the other world countries over the past few decades.
    There is a marked failure to see the full picture.

    • @Zen-rd9np
      @Zen-rd9np 9 місяців тому +4

      Or just the stats on resolutions again Hamas and their affiliates. I don’t think there’s another country in the same position as Israel.

    • @janjan55555
      @janjan55555 9 місяців тому

      @@Zen-rd9np WHY THE FK would Hamas need resolutions against?! HAMAS = part of the occupied, yet THEY need to have resolutions against them when on top of the occupation, the humiliation, their people EVEN PRIO TO October 7th were constantly being killed by israeli airstrikes! From a moral perspective, a human should NEVER feel sympathy for the occupiers! EVER! Unless you believe the occupation is a good thing?

    • @tempejkl
      @tempejkl 9 місяців тому +4

      well yeah, usually when people do something wrong people use resolutions. Would happen to any other country (except Nazi germany - USA, UK, France, Poland, and other allies supported them until the very late 30’s)

    • @alexpkeaton4471
      @alexpkeaton4471 9 місяців тому +4

      People hate apartheid.
      How is Rhodesia doing?

    • @janjan55555
      @janjan55555 9 місяців тому

      @@tempejkl "when people do something wrong" ====> Let's see if I understand that twisted insane logic! I take over your house, kick you out, FORCE you live in your backyard and expect zero violence against you... "People do something" ; such an airhead bimbo paris hilton statement...

  • @yofedstyhrega4594
    @yofedstyhrega4594 9 місяців тому +18

    I'm pretty neutral on the issues i think there victims of eachother and themseleves.
    But I cant believe america is going so hard on Palestina while also talking about ukraine.
    How can you defend one thing and then support Israëls government. They haven't even made an effort to create guidelines. Or red lines.
    Its just really depressing to see.

    • @VoFALT
      @VoFALT 9 місяців тому +7

      Because Israel is in the right. The Palestinians (Hamas in this case) are not.
      What is happening in Ukraine and what is happening in Israel/Palestine are not remotely the same. Israel was attacked by genocidal terror group who will do it again if Israel does not destroy them. Hence why Israel is invading Gaza. Ukraine was invaded without any hint of provocation on their part in a full-blown imperialist colonial expansion.

    • @mariatheresavonhabsburg
      @mariatheresavonhabsburg 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@VoFALT
      Except for the part where Israel steals Palestinian's land, and targets Palestinians civilians (Not Hamas), which you conveniently omitted.
      I wonder what their end goal is here, although It's quite obvious.

    • @mariatheresavonhabsburg
      @mariatheresavonhabsburg 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@VoFALT
      Israel also tried multiple times to "evacuate" Palestinians civilians from Gaza while refusing to give reassurances that they'll be able to return afterwards.
      Very telling.

    • @amnont8724
      @amnont8724 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mariatheresavonhabsburgwhen was Israel proven to deliberately target Palestinian civilians? Israel also chose to leave Gaza in 2005, they have no interest in retaking Gaza & governing millions of Gazans too. And also Hamas was caught countless times using the civilian population & infrastructure (schools & hospitals) as human shields. Do your research before u spit propaganda.

    • @Solmoun
      @Solmoun 9 місяців тому

      @@mariatheresavonhabsburg No. They don't. learn history first.

  • @Ynhockey
    @Ynhockey 9 місяців тому +1

    No mention of October 7, one of the worst terror attacks in world history? The video makes it sound like Israel just attacked Gaza for the lulz. Everyone knows that people have a short memory, but somehow when it comes to Israel, it's especially short.

    • @jhingoorpatima237
      @jhingoorpatima237 9 місяців тому

      Egypt warned israel week ago before the attack !!! Why no immediate action was taken to stop that to happen? They let the door open for hamas!!! They let their created and funded hamas with billions to do the job so that bibi can stay in power eternel and avoid jail !!!!

  • @farhansa4546
    @farhansa4546 9 місяців тому +1

    Missed out the Zionism movement in this video. Quite significant

  • @baha3alshamari152
    @baha3alshamari152 9 місяців тому +9

    US support for Israel is :
    1 - Unconditional
    2- Non negotiable
    3- Non delayeable (No delay)
    4- Unlimited

    • @HankD13
      @HankD13 9 місяців тому

      The UN is a toothless talking shop, with no power - since no country wants to give the world power over themselves. Small countries can pontificate on the world stage, with no consequence, no skin in the game. I doubt many of them, suffering the devastation of a 7 Oct in scale atrocity matching their population, would give a damn about what the UN had to say. Hypocrisy is the hallmark of UN, and no self respecting country - that had to answer, democratically to its voting population would be doing anything different from what Israel has been forced to do.

    • @SleepyjoeOG
      @SleepyjoeOG 9 місяців тому +3

      Says who? If they keep f*cking around we’re gonna pull support

    • @lanxy2398
      @lanxy2398 9 місяців тому

      @@SleepyjoeOGLol no we aren’t bro they lobby our entire government both dem and republican the US will always supply Israel with money and weapons even if Israel insults us

    • @kieragard
      @kieragard 9 місяців тому +2

      You know you've spoon fed someone way too long when they believe beggars can be choosers. They just expect it and are no longer grateful.

    • @baha3alshamari152
      @baha3alshamari152 9 місяців тому

      @@SleepyjoeOG
      1- What do you mean by " they are f*cking around ? "
      2- I don't see how AIPAC can lose control over USA under any circumstances

  • @jeenhur8804
    @jeenhur8804 9 місяців тому +1

    UN vote in the 193-member world body was 153 in favor for stopping war, 10 against and 23 abstentions, and ambassadors and other diplomats burst into applause as the final numbers were displayed. The United States and Israel were joined in opposing the resolution by eight countries - Austria, Czechia, Guatemala, Liberia, Micronesia, Nauru, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay.
    A ceasefire would kills Netanyahu, so Netanyahu has no choice but to choose escalation. Whether Biden supports Israel or not, Trump is likely to be elected. If the United States, which is already completely isolated, invades Iran without any justification, it would be admitting to the world that the United States is a country having no morals, and its leadership would completely disappear.

  • @aliakbor4281
    @aliakbor4281 9 місяців тому

    The chickens are coming home to roost. 😂😂😂

  • @Iraniwegian
    @Iraniwegian 9 місяців тому +19

    As a Muslim i hope this doesnt happen. Israel is major for preventing Iranian domination of the Middle east maybe when Iran stops being a threat

    • @xyeB
      @xyeB 9 місяців тому +1

      Fasiq murtad

    • @JayJay5244
      @JayJay5244 9 місяців тому

      What Israel has achieved is the exact opposite though. The Saudis and Iranians are talking again and it seems like Arabs are slowly but surely uniting against Israel which hasn’t been the case since the 60s. If anything, their warfare policy is making Israelis and Jews anywhere much more unsafe

    • @MJMilano7
      @MJMilano7 9 місяців тому +1

      A Zionist “Muslim”

    • @teamjam2863
      @teamjam2863 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah nah brother. Iran isn’t as impactful as you may think. They are already several players rivaling Iran eg: Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan (through the Taliban).

  • @MrTomandersson
    @MrTomandersson 9 місяців тому +8

    The us shows that they dont care about human rights. They care about strategy. The ability to put weapons in the middle east close to Iran far outweighs the importance of civilian lifes according to them.

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 9 місяців тому

      Has anyone cared about human rights? Many people say they do but its generally political theatre.

  • @solkahila
    @solkahila 9 місяців тому +9

    Politically you are right
    But you completely omitted the deep cooperation between Israel and the United States on the military issue and the development of defense systems and weapons, as well as valuable intelligence that makes the United States the powerful it is today
    In the 1980s, Israel had the ability to produce an aircraft called the Levy with the same capabilities as the F-35, but the US stopped it for fear that Israel would become its competitor in the production and sale of weapons
    I am personally from Israel and I think that Israel should not depend on the US for its existence because there is no guarantee that the Americans will stay here forever

    • @firstbinguser
      @firstbinguser 9 місяців тому +2

      right, people overlook this but Israel's weaponry manufacturing industry is being limited by this aid from the usa. Israel is also the usas only proper proxy in the middle east and can test usa battle tech in war..

    • @GrammarNaziAUS
      @GrammarNaziAUS 9 місяців тому

      Wow. That's some headass idiocy, right there.

    • @solkahila
      @solkahila 9 місяців тому

      @@firstbinguser yes correct

    • @solkahila
      @solkahila 9 місяців тому +2

      @firstbinguser I actually don't like the fact that we are betting 1000% on the states to be there for us
      Prefer to fight and no one will say how we should fight and when where.
      It's called independence

    • @firstbinguser
      @firstbinguser 9 місяців тому +1

      @solkahila exactly. 50% of youth in the usa wants our state abolished, I think aligning with India rather than the usa in the future is smarter.

  • @EzekielDeLaCroix
    @EzekielDeLaCroix 9 місяців тому

    1:19 - New British spelling for "Abstain".

  • @currentaf8455
    @currentaf8455 9 місяців тому +7

    Its indo pacific not Asia pacific

    • @RenéSaussy
      @RenéSaussy 9 місяців тому +2

      I think he meant Asia and pacific

    • @rizkyadiyanto7922
      @rizkyadiyanto7922 9 місяців тому +1

      its actualy sino-pacific.

    • @Ishpreetb264
      @Ishpreetb264 9 місяців тому

      🤦‍♀️ typical low IQ sanghi.

    • @TheCat48488
      @TheCat48488 9 місяців тому

      ​@@rizkyadiyanto7922sino pacific is outside SEA
      And no, trading asshole for asshole is not a great idea

    • @CrazyYurie
      @CrazyYurie 9 місяців тому

      @@rizkyadiyanto7922 It absolutely is not.

  • @thomasdoubting
    @thomasdoubting 9 місяців тому +3

    You don't have to pick sides between Israel and hamas.
    They do that for you!
    Israel want to exist.
    Hamas want ONLY hamas to exist! (Yeas, in the world)
    🇸🇪🤝🇮🇱

  • @MrMaxinne
    @MrMaxinne 9 місяців тому +3

    One can only hope US support for Israel lessens.

    • @chadbrad8100
      @chadbrad8100 9 місяців тому

      u must be muslim. You do realize Israel has a history to prove that it is their land and that Palestine has never existed. No one in that ever considered themselves a Palestinian during the past wither it was an Israeli, Arab, Ottoman, etc.
      ua-cam.com/video/XNf40sBcvKk/v-deo.htmlsi=mflHwARzBaUsomju
      This is a good video to prove why the Israeli people ; have always existed whether they are either Jews or Muslims but no state of Palestine has existed. Jews and Muslims can coexist like that have for hundreds of years. I made sure this video was as unbiased as it can possibly be. People talk about Israel being genocidal to Muslims but Arab countries have done the same thing to Jew all over the Middle East and Africa

  • @242dubois
    @242dubois 9 місяців тому +1

    No mention of the powerful jewish lobby?! 😡

  • @guyr3837
    @guyr3837 9 місяців тому +11

    Might want to add that the United Nations had spent more time on Israel than any other country in the last 80 years

    • @alexpkeaton4471
      @alexpkeaton4471 9 місяців тому +7

      Because South Africa, who got kicked out of the UN, did the right thing and ended apartheid.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 9 місяців тому

      @@alexpkeaton4471 north korea, china, russia would seem to be bigger problems. israel does not engage in apartheid this is an anti semetic lie

    • @olliegoria
      @olliegoria 9 місяців тому +2

      That's because Palestinians do not want a two-state solution and reject it everytime. When Fatah came close to agreeing to just that, Hamas came along and kicked them out of power.

  • @שלוםדרורי
    @שלוםדרורי 9 місяців тому +14

    Why gaza/hamas equal Ukraine?
    The Ukraines themselves said it is the other way around, gaza equal Russia and Israel equal Ukraine

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j 9 місяців тому +18

      🤣 that's the best cognitive dissonance I've read all day

    • @MohammedAhmed-iy4gp
      @MohammedAhmed-iy4gp 9 місяців тому +4

      What 🤣🤣🤣 stop lying to yourself bro

    • @MJMilano7
      @MJMilano7 9 місяців тому

      Russia invaded Ukraine
      Israel occupied Palestine
      I feel bad for your mama for having such a dumb child

    • @mohamedtrfnx6632
      @mohamedtrfnx6632 9 місяців тому

      Next thing you will say that you were just pretending to be ret@rded

    • @bobobobo3142
      @bobobobo3142 9 місяців тому

      it did not start on oct 7th. It started when europe dumped all the juice in Palestine and created the artificial state pushing out all the people already living there.

  • @cakeyummy2401
    @cakeyummy2401 9 місяців тому +17

    Protect the rights of Palestinians and the hostages.

    • @xyz-uw3ps
      @xyz-uw3ps 9 місяців тому +5

      Who do you think is holding the hostages?

    • @Abdurrahman-zg6dx
      @Abdurrahman-zg6dx 9 місяців тому

      ​@@xyz-uw3psfor prisoners exchange

    • @cakeyummy2401
      @cakeyummy2401 9 місяців тому

      @@xyz-uw3ps Hamas is holding them, but the IDF just accidentally killed 3 of them, look at the news. The right-wing coalition in Israel's government is failing and needs to be replaced by the liberal party.

    • @jhingoorpatima237
      @jhingoorpatima237 9 місяців тому

      ​@@xyz-uw3psyou mean those hostages in israel jail mostly without trial ?

    • @xyz-uw3ps
      @xyz-uw3ps 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jhingoorpatima237 "64% of Palestinian refugees taken in by Denmark in 1992 now have criminal records". I guess Denmark didn't give them a fair trial either?

  • @xSkwintz
    @xSkwintz 9 місяців тому +2

    No more Biden, no more Trump. Please lord almighty, give us a new younger president next year 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

  • @kobiromano6115
    @kobiromano6115 9 місяців тому +14

    Hey guys, Israeli "leftie" here.
    I love your channel(s) and follow you daily, but I have to correct you on the reason why Netanyahu won't back off Gaza.
    It's NOT about the political grip of the right-wing extremists in his coalition.
    While this might be an easy scapegoat, the truth of the matter is that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Israelies such as myself will never accept a ceasefire before they can guarantee that no such act of horrid violence ever occurs again.
    And the 1,400+ casualties and 230+ kidnapped from 7.10 are really the ONLY motive behind our actions.
    At least half of the army personnel is "left wing" but there are no quarrels right now between political opposites.
    The proof if that the entire resistance, which actively opposed Netanyahu and his coalition, and protested in the streets, are now completely silent.
    They are busy fighting a war for Israel's survival. No less.
    In our neighborhood, might makes right, and peace can only be achieved by the sword.
    It was a painfall realization, for me as well, but this war is absolutely unavoidable.
    The US will do well to not lose to Iran and Russia's proxy war, as it will effect the Saudis and many other countries in the area. This is a pivotal moment.

    • @mrb152
      @mrb152 9 місяців тому +2

      How do people not get this when there is a unity government right now? Netenyahu as PM means that Israel is on a shorter leash. If Gantz was PM could get away with being more aggresive.

    • @Andronichuk
      @Andronichuk 9 місяців тому +4

      Out of interest, do you support a 2 state solution? If not, what's to be done with the Palestinians, particularly those in the west bank?

    • @kobiromano6115
      @kobiromano6115 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Andronichuk
      It's complicated.
      I was a supporter, but to be honest, the horrors of 7.10 shook me to my foundation.
      In the last 2 years, Gaza's economy prospered, the number of work permits peaked, more goods were going in and out of Gaza than in the last 2 decades.
      It was a common trope of the left, that peace and economic prosperity in Gaza will lead to perpetual deescelation and eventually peace.
      This approach was "rewarded" with grousome violence.
      Israel will not negotiate anymore with any organization that has "erasure of Israel" in its ideology, and will not allow ANY armed entity get anywhere near our borders.
      Hamas is not a partner and the PLO is currently not a partner.
      If the Palestinians want a state, something DEEP has to change, and some political power has to rise within the Palestinians, that revokes the current ideas and sincerely not call for the demise of Israel.
      I don't see it happening soon.

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому

      [Leaving a comment here so I can see replies]

    • @Andronichuk
      @Andronichuk 9 місяців тому +4

      @@kobiromano6115 I completely hear and understand everything you're saying. But what are you envisioning for the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians who will be homeless, jobless, starving, wounded, etc after Hamas is gone?
      Are you imagining Israel housing these people? Or do you envision keeping them in captivity to die after the war?
      Serious question - what does "victory" actually look like for this population which will continue to be on the lands of Gaza and the West bank. Israeli citizenship? Right of representation? Or will Israel start to resemble a modern day version of apartheid South Africa?

  • @stirlingblackwood
    @stirlingblackwood 8 місяців тому +1

    1:19 ABSATIN

  • @CurrentAffairs-lw3rw
    @CurrentAffairs-lw3rw 9 місяців тому +19

    You can enjoy your freedom of speech in west as long as you don't talk about israeli war crimes 😀.

    • @mantiq8795
      @mantiq8795 9 місяців тому +7

      You won't be punished for saying stupid things, you will just be called stupid.

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j 9 місяців тому +11

      @@mantiq8795 losing your job, getting reported to counter terrorism etc. acting a lot like authoritarian states

    • @oriontigley5089
      @oriontigley5089 9 місяців тому +3

      That applies to alot of issues in the West, really.
      Israeli war crimes are just another tick on the list of things that are socially unacceptable to talk about.
      Against diversity? Trans rights? Religion? You'll be attacked just the same.

    • @MJMilano7
      @MJMilano7 9 місяців тому +7

      @@mantiq8795people literally lost their jobs for criticizing Israel

    • @ianchapman6254
      @ianchapman6254 9 місяців тому

      @@MJMilano7 Private Companies don't want to be perceived as being antisemetic? Consider me shocked, shocked! Free speech applies only to governments. It does not apply to the social consequences of your speech.
      My personal feeling is plain: one side beheaded babies, sexually molested women, and the other did not. That makes the former side EVIL and I no longer will consider their side because of that.

  • @weeb3277
    @weeb3277 9 місяців тому +7

    The Israel's lobby is too powerful for this to occur.

  • @bediaabdulfetah5793
    @bediaabdulfetah5793 9 місяців тому +2

    8000 children in less than two months that’s just despicable even for them

  • @sonicmeerkat
    @sonicmeerkat 9 місяців тому +1

    the US should just pull its support, honestly a huge frustration i have is how they immediately sent fucking warships to support isreal while it took a fucking year to send tanks to ukraine when obviously the defensive war against russia on nato borders is much higher priority than an offensive war in the middle east by an at best unreliable ally and at worst an actual detriment to both finances and international relations.
    isreal should have kept their border defenses strong, even the military itself warned the government of its weakness, the entire massacre that caused this war could have been prevented.
    obviously that doesn't absolve hamas, it just shows isreal is wasting american tax payers money if literal billions isn't enough to fortify a hostile border against a tiny ass gaza.
    no way isreal can solo all of their neighbors at the same time but can't wall off a tiny fucking splinter of a state, shit's fishy as hell.

    • @alwaysdisputin9930
      @alwaysdisputin9930 9 місяців тому

      Dude the US warships were needed to battle with the Palestinian warships because Israel hasn't got their own warships.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 9 місяців тому

      the tanks had to be rebuilt from scratch since the M1A2 contains internal target acquisition systems illegal for export

    • @MasterGhostf
      @MasterGhostf 9 місяців тому

      You have no idea how war works. They have to train tank crews to us M1 Abrams. They aren't the same as the tanks Ukrainians are used to. M1 Abrams are gas guzzlers that break down constantly, but they are extremely powerful. That requires a lot of maitenance and training.

    • @Blownkingg
      @Blownkingg 9 місяців тому

      @@alwaysdisputin9930Palestine doesn’t have warships. Also the US sent an aircraft carrier if my memory serves me right.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 9 місяців тому

      @@Blownkingg more specifically global shipping lanes run through the region

  • @DonesdeMotivacion
    @DonesdeMotivacion 9 місяців тому +3

    Wait until Trump comes back.

    • @jhingoorpatima237
      @jhingoorpatima237 9 місяців тому

      Waiting for trump 2024 to see him dancing with arabs dictators putin talibans in saudi !! Trump will move UN to saudi A and white house to iran !!!

  • @killuminatihailmary9118
    @killuminatihailmary9118 9 місяців тому +1

    video actually starts at 3:20

    • @chriswatson3464
      @chriswatson3464 8 місяців тому

      Yes, and they need to stop asking for subscribers!

  • @dudelehhh
    @dudelehhh 9 місяців тому +42

    Israel will do what it needs to do to keep it's citizens safe - with or without the US. It'll be easier with the US, but they'll still do it the hard way if they need to.

    • @SimpleGeopolitics24
      @SimpleGeopolitics24 9 місяців тому +1

      The United States supports Israel's operation. After all, Biden is preparing for the election campaign in 2024 and the public opinion of pro-Palestinian supporters is important to him. Therefore, Israel needs to hurry. Biden also stated this.

    • @karankapoor2701
      @karankapoor2701 9 місяців тому

      ​@@SimpleGeopolitics24 If trump wins , isreal doesn't has to worry

    • @vod96
      @vod96 9 місяців тому +19

      Israel relies heavily on US support - half of the budget is US aid, and this is with second, third and fifth hand weapons. In the long run, an Israeli government can wain itself off of US support, maybe, if they can make it efficient - however, right now, US support is pivotal, both for defensive weapons like iron dome and offensive. Couple this with other players in the region, and Israel will be on the ropes w/o American support.

    • @SimpleGeopolitics24
      @SimpleGeopolitics24 9 місяців тому +2

      @@karankapoor2701 Trump did not attack in Syria as he promised and did not do half of what he promised to do regarding the Iranian nuclear.

    • @Jack-e5t
      @Jack-e5t 9 місяців тому +1

      yes because making the entirety of the middle east and a good chunk of the west absolutely despise you will definitely make your citizens safer lol. classic braindead zionist take.

  • @Rager_U
    @Rager_U 9 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for the comparison with Ukraine; that's new news to me. I never realized that Ukraine went into Russia and kidnapped and brutally murdered their citizens before Russia valiantly fought back...

    • @LI-xv7uq
      @LI-xv7uq 9 місяців тому +1

      Maybe educate yourself a bit more on this conflict, then you will understand why people compare Palestinian resistance fighters to Ukrainians ✌🏻

  • @deathendings6313
    @deathendings6313 9 місяців тому +3

    God, I hope we do.
    What has Israel ever done for the benefit of the USA?
    Amazing.

  • @AD-ky2jt
    @AD-ky2jt 9 місяців тому +4

    Well Israel is economically very good to the US. Has the largest concentration of tech companies in a city (Tel a viv) aside from Silicon valley. Majority of the tech that the US has, the irrigation drip systems which the US employs for their crops and military inventions wouldn't have been possible without the Israelis. Biden just wants more voters which is why he is taking a slighter tougher stance.

    • @aminy23
      @aminy23 9 місяців тому +1

      Intel in Israel was an absolute failure unable to produce 10nm chips until these chips were irrelevant for cutting-edge computing. These would have been used for computer chips from 2017-2020, but they couldn't be made by Intel Israel until 2021 by which time they were outdated. This led to the demise of Intel by losing key customers like Apple - because by this point anyone could call a foreign fab and get chips better than what Intel offered. Intel lost its performance advantage over AMD. This was a huge blow for US national security because they had to rely on foreign companies like TSMC to make the technology for military equipment like the Lockheed Martin F35 Lightning II. This national security issue spurred the need for the bipartisan supported $50+ billion Chips Act where the government was to pay billions to Intel and TSMC to accelerate the production of American factories so American technology doesn't fall further behind the rest of the world and for classified military chip production as well.

    • @AD-ky2jt
      @AD-ky2jt 9 місяців тому

      @@aminy23sometimes, things workout and sometimes they dont. But it is a fact that Israel and the US heavily work together to create things.

  • @Bluesonofman
    @Bluesonofman 9 місяців тому +1

    There would be too much political backlash from both parties if America abandoned his daughter. Especially from the militant Christian faction of the country who desperately want Christ to return and Israel building the Third Temple is the only way for that to happen in their mind.

  • @zpqm693
    @zpqm693 9 місяців тому +2

    USA is supp for Taiwan and Kosovo?

  • @diomuda7903
    @diomuda7903 9 місяців тому +3

    Israel is long seen as the unsinkable carrier for the United States. Although there can be tensions, protecting Israel remains a deep priority for the Americans, hence why both Democrats and Republicans share similar views.
    However, Netanyahu is deemed too dangerous and too radical, which undermines American interests.

    • @pikapi6993
      @pikapi6993 9 місяців тому

      Netanyahu was the guy that made Arab leaders sign the Abraham Accords. The problem is America (the Democrat party). America let Pro Palestinians infiltrate universities and media. Now a large number of Democrat voters became Pro Palestinians.

  • @gil6875
    @gil6875 9 місяців тому +6

    I stand with Israel 🇮🇱

    • @PatriotOfPersia
      @PatriotOfPersia 9 місяців тому

      You can not even stand with your family when one of your family members become sick

    • @gil6875
      @gil6875 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PatriotOfPersia ??

    • @PatriotOfPersia
      @PatriotOfPersia 9 місяців тому

      @@gil6875
      Shit

  • @tullymcfarland9015
    @tullymcfarland9015 9 місяців тому

    As an American I feel like I am living in Mordor.

    • @007kingifrit
      @007kingifrit 9 місяців тому

      but you won't leave huh?

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 9 місяців тому +8

    I would suggest that Israel first cripple Hamas. then, they try to assimilate the Palestinians (at least the peaceful or non-violent ones). Offer them better economic incentives and better political representation and probably open a track towards Israeli citizenship. There are already over a million Arab Muslims who live in Israel as citizens and have the same rights, privileges and protections as Jews. They even serve in Israel's military and courts and parliament. It sounds like a long shot but it can work. it worked for teh Americans during their wars with the Native American tribes.

    • @Zorohudson
      @Zorohudson 9 місяців тому

      Lol you already pointed out they been doing this yet you make it sound like a new strategy. Those arabs are now unemployed because... they are arab so what signal does that send to those not apart of that system. Any issue they'll be targeted

    • @blueyneuy
      @blueyneuy 9 місяців тому

      They would never do this as it will "ruin" the Jewish ethnostate identity.

    • @khairulhelmihashim2510
      @khairulhelmihashim2510 9 місяців тому +1

      millions of Palestinians are displaced for decades in Gaza, West Bank, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt etc.. Even they renounced armed resistance, Israel won't give wholesale citizenship to Palestinians that could potentially, and politically outnumber them, and destroy the raison-d'etre for Israel existence in first place -a Jewish state.
      The Native Americans are population are small, decimated by diseases and wars, so white Americans won't feel politically threatened to integrate them.

    • @orboakin8074
      @orboakin8074 9 місяців тому

      @@khairulhelmihashim2510 you make a good point, friend. However, I still think this measure (civic nationalism and assimilation) should be pursued and only for Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank. I also base my suggestion on historic precedent like my country's (Nigeria) civil war where Igbo people and other tribes (Hausa and Yoruba) fought over a few years. Once it ended, both parties worked to rebuild the fabric of our nation and pursue civic nationalism by encouraging reintegration and mitigating tribal hatreds. Economic and political incentives were also used and it worked. Plus, Igbo people are a large demographic in my country and while small secession groups/sentiment still exist in terrorists groups, the majority of Igbo people are more aligned with Nigeria than them. Another example is in India with the Sikh secession issue. Majority of Sikhs are not aligned with the secessionists and seem to do well in larger India. Israel should at least try this.

    • @Lord_Pilaf
      @Lord_Pilaf 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@orboakin8074This is fantasy. The Zionist regime is an ethnostate, it believes the land belongs to Jews and Jews alone. Palestinian lives do not matter to them, that is evident with the genocide in Gaza. That racist government must be completely removed from the region. Only then will peace be possible.

  • @BlazeLycan
    @BlazeLycan 9 місяців тому +30

    Israel is doing what it can to minimize civilian casualties while Hamas fighters are using their own population as meat-shields. Tunnels under hospitals, fighters hiding within the civilian population, stealing humanitarian aid for their own terrorist-machine, all in the interest of preserving their own survival while also making Israel look bad by proxy. Meanwhile, Israel has informed the Palestinian population twice to relocate to avoid areas of Hamas activity before Israel engages, which militarily speaking gives Hamas breathing room to relocate with said civilians.
    It's all terrible, but focusing the conversation on Israel is directly playing into Hamas' hands, which mind you, weren't even that popular among Gazans before Hamas attacked and kidnapped Israelis and Tourists across the border.

    • @yannickgeudens5192
      @yannickgeudens5192 9 місяців тому +40

      Do you work for Israel's propaganda department? Gaza is one of the most densest populated regions on the planet, they have nowhere to relocate to.

    • @Xardas131
      @Xardas131 9 місяців тому +6

      Thanks! Finally some informed person in the comments.

    • @Xardas131
      @Xardas131 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@yannickgeudens5192 It is a normal big urban area, yes. And still, Israel has corridors and safe zones for civilians established, as much as possible during a war situation.

    • @BlazeLycan
      @BlazeLycan 9 місяців тому +3

      @@yannickgeudens5192 I can tell you that I certainly do not work for Hamas' propaganda department.
      I do acknowledge that it's a shit situation, and that relocating such density is extremely difficult that even moving further down south of the strip where there isn't adequate housing is nigh-on-impossible. I just don't see a solution that would help that isn't saying "Hey Hamas, you know that attack you did? Yeah, slap on the wrist for that one, ya rascals!". If not punished for such transgressions, then they will continue and we'd have further Gaza-Israel crisis like this one down the line. It's effectively appeasement, which just doesn't work.

    • @karljones7976
      @karljones7976 9 місяців тому +22

      your characterization of Hamas is correct, but your characterization of Israel is incredibly charitable to the point of ignorance. If Putin said something like there are no innocent Ukrainians would that be okay to you? Israel clearly doesn't care about civilian casualties and I can understand why but trying to justify that is crazy. Do you really think that telling civilians to move south means they are doing everything they can for them. They live in an already overpopulated space and are now getting pushed away from their homes, with limited food and water all while having missile strikes above their heads. I agree that Hamas is not getting the negative attention they deserve but obviously Israel, the party with the power and control in the situation, is going to be the focus.