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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
  • The much anticipated book based on Mal Evan's diaries is here and Matt interviews writer Ken Womack on the long history of the diaries travels.
    Living The Beatles Legend: The Untold Story of Mal Evans
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  • @timmckeown1313
    @timmckeown1313 8 місяців тому +9

    Just finished the book. Heartbreaking story all around.

    • @sugarjoe50
      @sugarjoe50 6 місяців тому +2

      I read the book. Mal seemed like a great guy but a very conflicted person. Torn between family & his other 'family', the Beatles. As always, drugs & booze didn't help.

    • @mjlmarc
      @mjlmarc 22 дні тому

      Getting ready to order it

  • @DarrylRuiz-s1w
    @DarrylRuiz-s1w 9 місяців тому +7

    Poor Mal glad his story is being told

  • @markjamesmeli2520
    @markjamesmeli2520 10 місяців тому +8

    Knowing that Mal was such a closely held person to George, John, Paul & Ringo, you know that this must be a worthy account.

  • @markandresen1
    @markandresen1 10 місяців тому +5

    That note from John & Yoko, though. Teared me up.

  • @johnyarusso4953
    @johnyarusso4953 10 місяців тому +5

    I was fortunate to see Mal give a lecture at a Beatle fest in NYC in 1975. He had many amusing Beatle stories. I definitely have to get this book.

  • @DW_Harwich
    @DW_Harwich 10 місяців тому +6

    Great interview. Mal is an important but oft-overlooked figure in the Beatles story. His story is tragic, all the more so because it didn’t have to be that way.

  • @terryprill2510
    @terryprill2510 10 місяців тому +10

    Great interview! You tell great rock history on your channel, but not everyone can hold up under an interview for one hour and be as full of being able to tell a tale along with your guests. Kudos to you!

  • @MiguelRiscado
    @MiguelRiscado 10 місяців тому +3

    "Mal, we need an anvil". Mal was a legend and deserves this recognition.

    • @mikek5958
      @mikek5958 10 місяців тому +1

      Mal

    • @MiguelRiscado
      @MiguelRiscado 10 місяців тому +1

      @@mikek5958 sorry haha portuguese auto correct

    • @mikek5958
      @mikek5958 10 місяців тому +2

      @@MiguelRiscado No need to apologize I wasn't trying to be a smart ass just trying to help; no worries!

  • @Neal_Schier
    @Neal_Schier 10 місяців тому +8

    Matt, very glad that you interviewed Ken. Thank you.
    This book arrived just at the right time this past week as I had a long flight to catch up on reading.
    Ken writes well and that is much to his credit as books like this could end up be plodding--- and this one is not as it moves along smartly and never bogs down.
    Not to be a contraian, but I still do not really get Mal. He subsumed his entire life, and the seeming well-being of his life to the Beatles. It is very tempting, because we know exactly how history unfolded and the Beatles took the world by storm, to think that this was the best course of action for him to have taken. I think I must be missing the obvious because I simply don't know the real motivation behind him.
    Now granted, teasing out why we as humans act the way we do is the stuff of many a doctoral dissertation so this is always a hard task.
    He was, for example, woefully/pitifully remunerated and yet never advocated or petitioned for a better pay packet. Is this simply a case of complete self-abnegation in the service of artistic greatness or an enjoyment of being close to the throne? I think of that famous quote by the Nixon era White House aide Alexander Butterfield who said he wanted to be "in the smoke" (where the action was).
    Was it a form of escapism from what was perceived in early sixties Britain to be a more "normal " life?
    Maybe I am drawing conclusions that I should not as I look at his treatment of his family. Why didn't the Beatles take better care of him? Maybe I am simply seeing a side of things that were not there, but while he was a good servant to the band I don't envy how his life unfolded.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +3

      It probably seems like Mal needed "taking care of" because he wasn't as responsible as Neil. You never have heard hard luck stories from Neil and he was paid roughly the same wage.

    • @craigwarner6156
      @craigwarner6156 10 місяців тому +5

      @@popgoesthe60s52 I really think it's a case of a lot of different things going on in Mals story from start to finish.
      In the first place it's obvious Mal loved the music and the excitement of rock-'n'-roll, as his first love was Elvis. But then he actually found his own piece of real life action in the Beatles and just wanted to be and was happy being involved and part of it. Right in the middle in fact. And that is intoxicating. And as things went on the action moved to London and who wouldn't want to follow the action? Especially when you yourself have actively took part and sacrificed to get the band to that point, and are at least being paid more than what you were earning in your normal run of the mill job. And as the years go by you are now estranged from your wife and children and have been doing this job for 8 years and when the Beatles split I don't think Mal was the kind of person to go back to the old boring life and sadly by then drugs were playing a part and I don't think he knew how to change his life and it run it's course.

    • @Neal_Schier
      @Neal_Schier 9 місяців тому

      @@craigwarner6156 Well said.

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 8 місяців тому +2

      I think you are looking for something most meaningful & momentous for Mal working for the most famous band in the world ! Personally I think he just liked doing what he did , nothing deeper than that

  • @hejla4524
    @hejla4524 10 місяців тому +8

    47:46 That is a beautiful little note from Lennon. I was always under the impression that the Beatles neglected those who had been close to them. Maybe they were/are discreet about their support.

    • @prettyshinyspaghetti8332
      @prettyshinyspaghetti8332 10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I’ve seen a comment or two from Paul describing him as ‘a guy that worked for us”

  • @erniericardo8140
    @erniericardo8140 9 місяців тому +2

    In all sincerity nobody does a better interview than you Matt👍 Its a treat having Ken Womack as your guest, I really enjoyed his John Lennon 1980 book, and one thing that really hits me ( as Im sure many Beatle fans) is Ken sharing the story of Mal's death and John crying and expressing deep sadness,badly hoping its not real...fast forward to that fateful night in december of 1980 -We Beatle fans feeling the same about John's death and hoping that its just Not real.

  • @michaeldunne3379
    @michaeldunne3379 10 місяців тому +4

    Ken’s two volume biography of George Martin was really good. (Doesn’t get mentioned on the dust flap of this book, for some reason.) This book gives a unique insight into the day to day - not always fun - reality of The Beatles on the road. Mal was a complex and fascinating character.

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 10 місяців тому +3

    Such a great interview. Thanks. This is the first I heard that MAL had a real gun in his hand when the incident occurred. Such a shame that both MAL and John Lennon died by gunshot in the U.S. , such a tragedy. For those new to MAL’s story all you have to do is watch the GET BACK DOC where he is everywhere!

  • @jeffclement2468
    @jeffclement2468 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks so much for this. All Beatles-related subjects remain endlessly fascinating to me. Keep up the good work. 😻🌹✌

  • @scotttaylor7767
    @scotttaylor7767 10 місяців тому +5

    A great interview on Mal Evans. I wonder if someone will do a book on Ian Stewart the unofficial “Rolling Stone “. Who like Mal was with the band from the very beginning until his death in 1985. Unlike Mal Ian was lucky that his band stayed together. And he seems to have avoided the pit falls Mal fell into.

  • @susanerickson6195
    @susanerickson6195 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for an epic interview with Ken Womack. I’ve attended his class at Monmouth, and he’s a very astute, informative, and entertaining historian of The Beatles-plus very pleasant to chat with. Getting this latest book for Christmas, and can’t wait to get into it!

  • @ScaryStoriesNYC
    @ScaryStoriesNYC 10 місяців тому +2

    A very informative and moving episode. Excellent guest.

  • @shyman99
    @shyman99 10 місяців тому +18

    Perhaps the final significant behind the scenes Beatles book that can be written. Appropriate timing with the recent "Now And Then" release.

  • @martinmcgrath1985
    @martinmcgrath1985 10 місяців тому +2

    Pop love it one of very top channels ✌️

  • @jmarti03261
    @jmarti03261 10 місяців тому +1

    Very informative interview, I have listened to the audio book and I am currently reading through it. I think the book has the making of a movie script. The book and the interview kind of fills in a lot of the gaps of other books that I have read.

  • @mwmeier7677
    @mwmeier7677 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for this gift, Matt!

  • @SpikeAsks
    @SpikeAsks 10 місяців тому +1

    Beatle Fans Love Mal Evans! ✌🤍🌎

  • @richardcappuccio8561
    @richardcappuccio8561 10 місяців тому +1

    Hi Matt
    Hope all is well.
    Throughly enjoyed this video regarding Mal Evans.
    Some Great Insights were brought out during your discussion.
    I have ordered the book through Amazon- due to arrive on Tues 12/5 So I can delve deeper into his story as a Beloved Member of The Beatles Inner Circle.
    Thanks for doing the interview & posting the video.
    Take Care

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +1

      My pleasure, Richard.

    • @richardcappuccio8561
      @richardcappuccio8561 9 місяців тому

      @popgoesthe60s52 HI Matt.
      Just Reported some 20 minutes ago Denny Laine Passed Away at age 79.
      RIP. God Bless

  • @bobburroughs6241
    @bobburroughs6241 10 місяців тому +3

    Great interview Matt. Fascinating. How did Ken manage to pack all of this in? I confess I had long forgotten the tragedy of Mal's death. I didn't know the Badfinger story either til just looked it up. Wow.

  • @jerryweber1768
    @jerryweber1768 10 місяців тому +1

    Cool. Mal is my favorite Beatle.

  • @jconwell84
    @jconwell84 10 місяців тому +1

    Best thing you have done.

  • @micolsen9824
    @micolsen9824 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the interview.

  • @markwestervelt9708
    @markwestervelt9708 10 місяців тому

    Another great job. Thanks Matt.

  • @johnlorinc2081
    @johnlorinc2081 10 місяців тому +2

    Really nice interview. Interesting point about the dynamic between Neil and Mal. Both of them were essential parts of the Beatles story. Had Mal lived longer, it would have been cool to hear his points of view in the Anthology series.

  • @DocDoccus
    @DocDoccus 10 місяців тому +3

    Fine interview with Ken and his cat. To learn about someone who was pretty intimate with the Fabs, and shared some of their adventures although not necessarily in their spotlight is appreciated. However, would it be too much to ask of you, might we also learn about Magic Alex? That's a story in itself, isn't it?

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +3

      Ah, Magic Alex.... I know Lewisohn will will be delving into him in his upcoming volumes but I amy be able to find some more info on him. I appreciate the request, Doc!

    • @mayasaunt
      @mayasaunt 9 місяців тому

      @@popgoesthe60s52 The story of how he (allegedly) got a yacht and a house in Corfu for Donovan that were (allegedly) 'confiscated' from dissidents of the military junta in Greece should be v. interesting.

  • @billleary5779
    @billleary5779 10 місяців тому +1

    Great discussion! I just picked up the book recently and looking forward to reading it. I loved Ken’s books on George Martin, Solid State, John Lennon in 1980. This was a topic that really needed to be told and I am glad it was Ken. Thanks for sharing this Matt!

  • @FortYeah
    @FortYeah 10 місяців тому

    That was fantastic, thank you Matt.

  • @williambill5172
    @williambill5172 10 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for this wonderful episode!

  • @robertmac9057
    @robertmac9057 10 місяців тому

    Thanks both, a very entertaining and informative chat.

  • @GonzoDuke
    @GonzoDuke 10 місяців тому +1

    2 Mal Books and one for the illiterate! 😆 Great interview Matt. I will have to pick this up maybe for Christmas.

  • @Push-Pull
    @Push-Pull 10 місяців тому

    Man, well done ! Wonderful interview. We see Mal referenced many times in the Beatles story without exploration. Nice to see this angle fulfilled.

  • @gailg2327
    @gailg2327 10 місяців тому

    Really great interview, good questions, informative, and enjoyable.Thanks very much!

  • @kevin6667
    @kevin6667 10 місяців тому

    Loving the book so far!

  • @robbieburns8746
    @robbieburns8746 9 місяців тому

    Another excellent video!!

  • @MarkK-hs1xc
    @MarkK-hs1xc 10 місяців тому

    Very nice interview. I had been waiting for this book and was on the fence about it, thinking it might not be worth a read, but after listening to your kind of cliff note version here and Womack's take, I will get it. Thanks.

  • @karaamundson3964
    @karaamundson3964 10 місяців тому +1

    George Harrison: "Well, by around 1965, touring had gotten too big...so to speak."

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 9 місяців тому

    I have this book as a Christmas present, alongside Gerald Scarfe’s memoir - I’m really looking forward to reading both books over the festive break!

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 8 місяців тому

      I just finished the book - it was brilliant, a real insight into the Beatles’ careers. Mal was an extremely likeable character, and clearly adored the Beatles. A recommended read for anyone interested in The Beatles, and their solo careers.

  • @craigwarner6156
    @craigwarner6156 10 місяців тому

    My copy arrived last week and i just gotta bite the bullet and start to read it,I havent actually read a physical book for years as Igot really into audiobooks but when it comes to Beatles I like physical copies of everything.

  • @dennispepperack2973
    @dennispepperack2973 7 місяців тому +1

    Perspective: £100 in 1963 is worth £2,624.33 today, and before £ went decimal.

  • @TeleNikon
    @TeleNikon 10 місяців тому

    Just bought a copy through the link. Looking forward to reading it. Interesting interview.

  • @garettjeff
    @garettjeff 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video interview Matt. Thanks ! Does anyone know if video or audio exists from Mal Evans appearance at Beatlefest in 1975 I think was the year? I wish I could have been there.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому

      That is a good question! I'd love to hear that audio.

  • @tunesdonebyone3428
    @tunesdonebyone3428 10 місяців тому

    I will being buying this book. One of the many Mal contributions to the Beatles was the "life of ease" answers on Yellow Submarine. I wonder if Mal was there in 65 when the Beatles finally met Elvis. He was probably was given his position in the Beatles world.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  9 місяців тому +1

      Ken Womack goes into the Elvis encounter a bit in the book. Elvis was Mal’s favorite.

  • @lkjkj5035
    @lkjkj5035 8 місяців тому

    Mals story was long to be heard. He was serving with love and was a superfan to do what he did....Mal was "there" always with them.
    also noticed- ken , with his finger to his nose 3196 times , and approx every 30 seconds...finger to nose, finger to nose, finger to nose...lol
    ...read the book, its good but its never enough is it? we still want more Beatles stuff...

  • @opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
    @opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 10 місяців тому +1

    Great interview excellent content

  • @neilpatterson1615
    @neilpatterson1615 10 місяців тому

    Great stuff

  • @rEdHoUsE_1969
    @rEdHoUsE_1969 10 місяців тому

    Excellent discussion as always Matt ... thank you ...
    One thing about Mal & others in the 'inner circle' was when the 'dream was over' ... in some respects so were they ... Mal's story to me was particularly traffic ... 🤔

  • @4-dman464
    @4-dman464 10 місяців тому +2

    This is a much better interview than Womack has given in several other instances. I think Womack learned that being foxy with the contents to try & tease customers to buy the book backfires & makes for bland interviews that reflect badly on the book.
    It's frustrating, in this age of 'infomercials,' that there are no insightful book reviews, just uncritical endorsements. With the wealth of exclusive material, most writers could fashion an interesting book out of this, & this is an interesting book, I'm finding.
    I like how Womack acknowledged non-pc decadence on tour without going Woke & tabloid about it & imposing current morality on yesteryear.
    But some readers may want to assess their buying options, once they realise there is another, more expensive Mal Evans pictorial book tabled for this time next year with more of his own words...& then, I predict & hope, a 3rd book that finally publishes Mal's memoir.
    I'm uneasy about Womack's bio appropriating Mal's title for his own memoir - - even as a sentimental tribute, it means any future publication of Mal's memoir cannot now go out under his own title.
    I'm on Page 150. Womack's a fair writer, not a good one, just good enough. Lewisohn is a better writer, & Lewisohn isn't as excellent as his revered reputation; & even Kevin Howlett is better, though Howlett is on autopilot for the Apple Superdeluxe books now.
    Let me back that up so it's more than unsubstantiated opinion.
    I'll take 2 sentences representative of loose writing that needed a better editor to get Womack to tighten it up. A reader doesn't need to analyse this style for the writing to have a lagging effect that does not fulfill the full potential of the material. Subliminally, these shortfalls dull the reader's awareness of better possibilities. These aren't 2 exceptions, but representative of a general lapse....
    The book retells the Beatles story that we've heard many times - - hard to avoid that in telling Mal's story. So we get the Beatles tour minus hospitalised Ringo and plus Jimmy Nichol that any Beatles aficionado knows of old along with GH's reluctance to go without Ringo.
    "For Martin, the old adage that the show must go on became literal."
    Translation: For Martin, the show must go on. (It's still a cliche that way but at least doesn't labor the cliche. An obvious edit that the editor if not the writer should have caught in the 2nd draft.)
    You might say this is nit-picking. I'd say it's a good editor's job to nit-pick, & I;d say it's the *writer's* job, too.
    Listen:
    "As usual in Beatle World, things were moving at lightning speed."
    What that humdrum sentence does not do is move fast.
    Womack has already mentioned the fast pace in Beatles' lifestyle, so by acknowledging this with "as usual," the preface witlessly implies not speed but pedestrian routine - - which in a way it was, but that's not what he wants to convey here. "Lightning speed" is another go-to cliche that would stand up better if used in a more inventive way.
    I'd say the writing works in the way that hack writing can work from a competent jobbing writer - - that's the level here. People will read it for information & for the story of an almost unique perspective (it seems there's no treasure trove from Neil?) told 2nd hand by a biographer in lieu of Mal's own memoir.
    For some it comes down to whether folks are interested in info or whether folks are interested in writing. I want both for my dollar.
    Worth reading, if you can get it for a bargain.

    • @Neal_Schier
      @Neal_Schier 10 місяців тому +1

      Not speaking directly to this work, but I agree with points about the need for editing. I am quickly moving toward Old Guy status so I have been reading for decades and I have noticed a serious slippage in editing rigor and expertise. At first it was annoying. Then it was a trend. Now it is downright sloppy.
      The second point that I hope I correctly drew from your comment is the need for critical examinations in book reviews. Being a critic, whether for film, music, theater, and writing was often a high art in itself. I pine for those days.
      Last, Matt did solid work here in getting Ken to go into more detail than he has in other interviews. I understand that an author wishes for the listener to purchase the book, but I want to be convinced beforehand that the writing will be at least good and informative.

    • @4-dman464
      @4-dman464 10 місяців тому

      @@Neal_Schier Yes, agreed. The interview itself is by far the best of a handful of Womack interviews I've seen for this book. Such interviews are hard graft, making the interviewee welcome enough for him to relax so he can give open & fluent answers while asking incisive Qs while giving him a fair shake. Good job.
      I should have added that for Beatles researchers, this book is indispensable, which is why I bought it (reduced price), for the many quotations. It's well referenced.
      You do get a solid sense of Mal lumbering through the pages of his own life. (So maybe a lumbering style isn't altogether out of place.)

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +2

      All good points and I appreciate the examples given. I also appreciated how Womack didn't dance around some of the debauchery in the tours. Overall, there wasn't a lot of new Beatles information but the Mal story was compelling.

    • @4-dman464
      @4-dman464 10 місяців тому +1

      @@popgoesthe60s52 Yes, with you, Matt. I felt sorry for Mal, & felt sorrier still for Lil. One thing unexplored is some testimony that Mal contributed significantly to 'Eleanor Rigby.' I also have a notion about the megaphone voice in 'Yellow Submarine' but that one's just me, whereas 'Eleanor Rigby' has stronger evidence - - if memory serves, from Pete Shotton, but KW leaves that alone.

  • @toniwertman4818
    @toniwertman4818 9 місяців тому +1

    In all views that is seen, the Beatles took him for granted

  • @MrKaywyn
    @MrKaywyn 10 місяців тому

    Very interesting.

  • @mikeysaint4368
    @mikeysaint4368 9 місяців тому

    Due to Ken being a good author I bought Living The Beatles Legend a few days ago, and it's next on my reading list. A caveat my "Ken the good author" statement is that while he skilfully weaves a tale, I found his John Lennon 1980 book followed the blissfully content John & Yoko narrative too closely. I have higher hopes for LTBL.

  • @davidg2122
    @davidg2122 10 місяців тому

    Good interview. I'd really like to hear Mal's voice.

    • @BigSky1
      @BigSky1 10 місяців тому +1

      You can hear Mal speak if you watch the Get Back film. There is also one interview with Mal on UA-cam. It is with David Frost from 1975 but the sound quality is only ok. He sounded like John Lennon.

  • @EricSchultz-zs8hz
    @EricSchultz-zs8hz 10 місяців тому

    I read "Solid State: Abbey Road and the End of the Beatles," and it is a fine and very interesting book.

  • @wasteofspace20
    @wasteofspace20 10 місяців тому

    I’ll be supporting your patreon, love your content and personality massively! How about that win vs Kansas?!! All the best!

  • @JimBush-ie8iw
    @JimBush-ie8iw 8 місяців тому +1

    Having grown up in the 50s and 60s, let me remind everyone that there was no suçh thing as "under-age"

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  8 місяців тому

      Well said!

    • @danpetitpas
      @danpetitpas 8 місяців тому

      If this was the '70s, teens would be protesting in the streets the idea they couldn't consent to having sex. About a third of Americans lose their virginity before age 18. Now they enjoy being treated as snowflakes and some avoid sex entirely.

  • @patrickmoreau7592
    @patrickmoreau7592 9 місяців тому

    I love his cat 🐈‍⬛

  • @Gorilla.Guitar
    @Gorilla.Guitar 10 місяців тому

    the horseback photo. on the '64 tour they apparently leased or were sponsored an airplane for some or maybe the whole tour. the fellow who owned was Reed Pigman if i recall properly. apparently weather halted flying for a day or so & they apparently stayed at his(?) ranch where there were horses etc. the photo w ringo & mal may be from that time. ive seen horseback photos from that time in books. ive not seen the ringo/mal shot so i could be way off.

  • @kevinericsongs
    @kevinericsongs 10 місяців тому

    i'm looking forward to reading this book,though i would have preferred mal's diaries to be published as-is(with a seperate book of photos)rather than a biography

  • @TheLavaBrothers-y1i
    @TheLavaBrothers-y1i 10 місяців тому +2

    Apple gave Mal a loan for 500 quid instead of just giving it to him when he couldn’t make ends meet? I’m reminded of a part of the Get Back doc that I haven’t seen anyone note: the Beatles were musing about not paying Billy Preston for his work. There’s something a little gross here.

    • @danpetitpas
      @danpetitpas 8 місяців тому

      The Beatles had terrible cash flow problems after Brian Epstein died. Nobody was watching the expenditures. And people were ripping off the Beatles left and right. So the Beatles didn't have much money and EMI took its time paying their royalties. Also the Beatles were working class, so they may have considered 48 pounds a week good pay. And he got to travel around the world with them. He helped them get to the top, but then he crashed when the group crashed.

  • @frankny4947
    @frankny4947 10 місяців тому

    cool

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 8 місяців тому

    Can we have more of the black cat please

  • @jeffsmith1819
    @jeffsmith1819 9 місяців тому

    Book was great but sad ending

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 10 місяців тому

    just saw a video with one of Mal's kids on it it was very interesting such a sad ending to this life. wonder if he was the character the guy in the movie Hard Days Night was based on(the one who gets stuck taking care of grandfather) that roadie had my fav scene in the movie where the guys are on stage singing and Paul looks and grandpa is handcuffed to the roadie and then a few minutes later he is gone and the poor roadie has this aweful look on his face like I dont know how he got away honest

  • @tomandaj1
    @tomandaj1 10 місяців тому

    Given that the entire Beatles story is kind of the template for everything that can go right and wrong with a band it doesn’t surprise me that Mail didn’t get credit for some of the lyrics. However he was part of the inner circle and given the Fabs were not business men it probably didn’t occur to any of them at the time. He was one of 3 people who were there from the start. (Neil Aspinall and Freda Kelly being the other two). That being the case and how tight they all were with each other the thought probably never came up

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 8 місяців тому

      Look at the way Jagger & Richards froze Mick Taylor out of his writing royalties

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 10 місяців тому

    I have heard and read that Ringos wife stopped going to concerts at the Cavern cause of the girls trying to beat her up

  • @oldermusiclover
    @oldermusiclover 10 місяців тому

    I'm with Lily I would not have liked my husband messing around either and I have seen that a lot in music where you get locked into one job and if you are not doing it people think less of you or take you for granted

  • @frankfacts6207
    @frankfacts6207 Місяць тому

    Mal was murdered by LAPD - Paul was gone by '67. Add 2 Kennedys, two more Beatles and we got a police state and Ringo left

  • @Mr.-J-2024
    @Mr.-J-2024 10 місяців тому

    Why does the cover of the book only show him with Macca and not the Beatles?

    • @robertfontaine356
      @robertfontaine356 10 місяців тому

      Perhaps because Paul is still around and very popular? Marketing.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +1

      I did ask him that in the interview and it came down to how interesting the photo was, which was decided partially by the publisher; I like the photo but I asked if that was to suggest that Mal was closer to Paul than the others.

    • @donnaone1nine
      @donnaone1nine 10 місяців тому +1

      I’m willing to bet Paul had something to do with this decision. Probably part of the deal as part of Paul’s approval or agreement not to block publishing.

    • @robertfontaine356
      @robertfontaine356 10 місяців тому +1

      Although I haven`t read Ken Womack`s book, you may well be right. Paul has been extremely careful in his management (rewriting?) of the Beatles story. @@donnaone1nine

    • @nl40601
      @nl40601 8 місяців тому

      It had nothing to do with McCartney's approval or disapproval ... You actually posit that the cover photo selection of a book that McCartney had nothing to do with was selected by McCartney? Decided by the publisher.

  • @yrlic
    @yrlic 10 місяців тому +1

    Songwriting authorship … if the writer has the basic story and most of the words, it shouldn’t be assumed that adding a couple of words should result in a songwriting credit.

  • @user-qm7nw7vd5s
    @user-qm7nw7vd5s 5 місяців тому

    Suicide by cop, so sad. For the cop too, living with that eternal moment.

  • @cactusjackNV
    @cactusjackNV 10 місяців тому

    Great interview but I have to point out being #1 on the charts simply doesn't count in 2023. When politicians can have faux novelty songs reach #1 you know charts don't mean much.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому

      Yes, #1 in 2023 isn't the same as #1 in the 1970s. McCartney III hit #1 in the UK with only 43,000 units sold which is a pittance compare to what is used to take to get an lp to the top.

  • @Mikevdog
    @Mikevdog 9 місяців тому +1

    If you are having a mental health crisis, the last thing you need are cops.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  9 місяців тому

      The cocaine probably didn’t help either.

  • @andrewmstancombe1401
    @andrewmstancombe1401 4 місяці тому

    It's the English way of spelling Theatre.. you know, English. Maybe the person was educated in the UK.
    Talk about fact check!
    I'm interested to find out which will the US vote.
    What I wonder is how the heck you got stuck with two over the hill coffin dodgers as candidates.
    How come you couldn't have gone for younger candidates even in their 60s? At least they have wisdom and energy rather than alzheimers and Zimmer frames.

  • @willardarmbruster8111
    @willardarmbruster8111 7 місяців тому

    (Legal) immigrants get the job done.

  • @sugarjoe50
    @sugarjoe50 6 місяців тому

    Suicide by cop.

  • @jeanmenard3060
    @jeanmenard3060 9 місяців тому

    I am extremely disappointed ! There is an extremely important thing you forgot to mention : none of the Beatles were present at Mal Evans ' funerals !!! The 4 of them were still living when he died. They exploited him by not paying him. And after everything he did for them, they didn't even care to show up to his funerals !!! The Beatles are the greatest composers of all time, but they were not the greatest human beings of all time ! I am extremely surprised and disappointed that you didn't mention this in your video.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  9 місяців тому +1

      I did miss that very important point. Thank you for bringing it up.

  • @nigelwood699
    @nigelwood699 10 місяців тому

    A great subject. Not a fan of this author... His John Lennon 1980 book was really disappointing and to me felt half baked and ‘creatively’ researched.
    Pete Doggett or Mark Lewisohn May have been better choices to write this story. I hope I’m wrong!

  • @stephenellis2866
    @stephenellis2866 9 місяців тому

    Not your best interview !

  • @kevin6667
    @kevin6667 10 місяців тому +35

    In the mid-90s I spent a few years “trying” to gather enough information to write a Mal book and after some really promising exchanges with May Pang I really thought it could be a thing despite friends and family constantly telling me there wasn’t enough material or interest from anyone. I wasn’t sure if the book would be mostly about the search for Living the Beatle Legend or maybe a fictional re-creation of what his diaries might have been like before they disappeared.. I had met Joey Molland a couple times at Beatlefests and while helping load in a Badfinger show I had an opportunity to mention my intention to write a Mal book and asked if we could speak about Mal and he asked me if I had spoken with his family.. which by that point, I hadn’t and knew of Lily but had no connection.. but Joey really gave the impression that the family had no interest in Mal’s story (and theirs) being shared. I would certainly have cleared everything I wrote with them and had no desire or intent to go the Albert Grossman approach and my energy about the project waned .. in large part due the brief conversation with Joey and the reality that all the work and research could be for naught if the family were to red light the whole thing. I’m so glad that Ken Womack took up the assignment and has put in the work to share this truly important person not only in Beatles history, but in history in general. Huge thanks to Mark and Carol Lapidos for the incredible work they’ve poured into their passion throughout the years and making it possible for me to pick up a copy of the book signed by Ken and Gary! Thank YOU for your wonderful informative and insightful interviews and observation videos!

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +11

      Thank you, Kevin. I guess enough time passed so that the time was finally right to do a book on Mal.

    • @kevin6667
      @kevin6667 9 місяців тому

      @@popgoesthe60s52 there’s never been a better time!

  • @Kieop
    @Kieop 7 місяців тому +4

    In the early 70s, John was asked to clarify comments he'd made about people in the Beatles' entourage taking advantage and John was clear that Mal was not one of them.

  • @donnaone1nine
    @donnaone1nine 10 місяців тому +5

    I’m most curious about Ken Mansfield’s book and his last conversation with Mal the night before Mal was killed. Did Mal write about it? What was the deal he said he just made with Paul to get credit on some songs and why Mal wanted to meet with Ken Mansfield, but Ken was going to the Billboard Music Award and planned to meet Mal for lunch the next day. Ken knew something was wrong. We’ll probably never know because even Womack seems nervous when Paul is mentioned.

    • @4-dman464
      @4-dman464 10 місяців тому +3

      That does sound interesting. Mal is said to have had an important hand in 'Eleanor Rigby' lyrics, one of the best songs they ever did.

  • @edwindavies875
    @edwindavies875 10 місяців тому +5

    Excellent interview! Mr. Womack referenced Badfinger during the interview. I would LOVE it if a writer of his ability and credibility would write a great book on Badfinger. I’m unable to find any decently produced documentaries about Badfinger and the one book that seems to be comprehensive and highly regarded is out of print and runs currently at $129 for a used copy on Amazon. Badfinger is ripe for a great biography and/or documentary.

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +2

      I was just told of a bio on them that I was unaware of. I thought Ken may have mentioned it in the video. Apparently there is a good one out there.

  • @petpatrol1962
    @petpatrol1962 27 днів тому +1

    Great book. A real and fact filled history of The gentle giant Mal Evans the Beatles roadie and close friend who was there every step of the way. So many untold stories not found in other Beatles books.

  • @HowardMann-py9li
    @HowardMann-py9li 7 місяців тому +1

    Wasnt he murdered to hide the firing and replacement of Paul and john

  • @robertfontaine356
    @robertfontaine356 10 місяців тому +3

    Interesting interview Matt. I recommend a book by Peter Lee called The Death and Life of Mal Evans. It is an alternate history of The Beatles with Mal at center stage, trying to keep them from splitting up.

  • @tomfreemanorourke1519
    @tomfreemanorourke1519 9 місяців тому +1

    A movie biog of Mal's should be considered.

  • @crapple009
    @crapple009 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not sure if this was already pointed out, but the photo on the cover of the book was taken on Feb. 20th, 1968 when they were on their way to the ashram in Rishikesh.

  • @Wilsonrre
    @Wilsonrre 9 місяців тому +1

    3 cool catz tail~~~

  • @Kieop
    @Kieop 7 місяців тому

    They could've recouped their advance by publishing it. I guess they were worried that the nature of his death would turn off readers? If anything, it should've driven sales. Were there legal reasons why they couldn't publish it after his death?

  • @whitehawk22
    @whitehawk22 9 місяців тому +1

    Fab! Can't wait to read this book. 🥰 Meanwhile I keep flashing on that "glitch-in-the-matrix" scene in The Matrix where the black cat enters & re-enters the scene from right to left 🙃

  • @matthewstreet1961
    @matthewstreet1961 10 місяців тому +2

    Outstanding interview Matt! Could be your best ever, and you’ve conducted many great ones. I’m reading it now and it’s hard to put down. Ken has done a wonderful job bringing Mal and his story to life. What an exhilarating ride reading it thus far! The highs, the lows, and the ultimate tragic tale. I’m sure I’ll review it after I finish it. Thanks again Matt, you’re the best! Cheers 🍻 Matt Street

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому +1

      Hey Matt! This is a good one to have in the collection for sure. Thanks for stopping by.

  • @dennispepperack2973
    @dennispepperack2973 7 місяців тому

    Excuse me... White Cliffs of Dover?

  • @MatthewMiller-i1t
    @MatthewMiller-i1t 10 місяців тому +1

    Hello matt.i have waited years on a book about mal.i bought the book and I am reading it at this time.love seeing this interview, thank you.beatle matt 9091.

  • @jackwalker4744
    @jackwalker4744 10 місяців тому +1

    Tremendous interview; I have the new book, will report back when I finish it.

  • @invisibleray6987
    @invisibleray6987 10 місяців тому +1

    The cover photo was an idiotic idea, it focuses on Macca, why not all 4 Beatles? weird

    • @popgoesthe60s52
      @popgoesthe60s52  10 місяців тому

      Yeah, I asked him about that and Ken's answer was that everyone liked that picture. I may be good, but not representative of the group.

    • @frankfacts6207
      @frankfacts6207 Місяць тому

      The "replacement"

  • @jugibur2117
    @jugibur2117 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, a great interview, very informative and also revealing how unfortunately everything ended with Mal. Nice to finally learn more about all the background. I'm always amazed at how many interesting and moving stories the Beatles universe has to offer.