You know, one of my friends exposed his NT4.0 Advanced Server box that runs Exchange and IIS sometime last year, and the worst that happened was the creation of a few empty folders for all this time. Doing the same on Windows 2000 ended badly, something you've already confirmed yourself. Maybe you should try out NT4 too.
Windows Activation doesn't work online because the servers have been upgraded to TLS 1.2 and recent certificates, preventing the old OS from connecting.
How do attackers find such an unsecured windows server? Do they simply poke every possible ipv4 address and hope that eventually they find a server which let's them in?
Yes, they're periodically scanning the whole IPv4 address range and net mapping every device to see which one is vulnerable and has the ports open. Pretty scary.
@@frankbucciantini388 that is just for pinging so if you actually want to do anything more than catalogue what responses you get then it will be longer. Know a guy that made a scanner to look for public minecraft servers and he told me on that hardware it only takes about 20 minutes. So yes,. in short the internet is a scary place sometimes lol.
I'm doing a sysadmin degree and just found your channel through this video, definitely gonna stick around for your DDs on this kinda stuff. Legacy systems are a great way to study.
We still have a literal handful but all of those are on death row and will be uplifted by the end of this year. We still had a single, solitary, one-off Windows 2000 box running as late as 2017 but it's gone now. We still have a decent number of 2012 R2 boxes (base 2012 is banned) that are allowed to stay _for now_, but the acceptable minimum at our place is 2016. That makes up the bulk of our estate and we have about a 70-30 split between 2019 and 2022 as well.
0:32 "Famously, Elon Musk, actually the reason he was let go from PayPal is because he wanted to rebase the whole thing around Windows instead of Unix. uh... Luckily they did not-" 😂😂😂
Depends on the server edition, each user OR device using the server needs to be licensed (web hosting does not require additional licensing). Unfortunately Windows Server is the only (viable, scalable, and reliable) way to manage dozens, or hundreds of windows boxes on a network (Active Directory, WSUS, BranchCache, and of course Group Policy)
Linux can't effectively manage Windows endpoints without a ton of headaches / compromises. *nix OSes have several applications that they're great at but this isn't one of them.
@@jimnor8817 Yep, we have loads of Linux stuff in our estate that Windows clients can auth against, but it's not AD. We have AD groups to manage application/system access and that access will allow your AD account to authenticate against those, but our actual directory management is AD. Vintela is used as a shim for the Unix estate.
How do you get the networking setup so it's not behind a NAT and exposed to the internet? Sorry for asking a question you've probably answered countless times.
@@Masterix. I saw his explanation in the comments of the first video he made for Windows XP. He says he uses Proxmox VM, but I wish he would make another video on how to create the configuration.
2:18 Nese Server 2003 also ended today. It's based on Windows Server 2003 but, it's difficult if updates are pre-installed. But, Nese Server 2003 ended today (like July 8, 2024)
Underrated Channel. I love learning aboute these obsecure and outdated OS's. I remember growing up on XP, and am nostalgic for it at times, even though its no longer safe to use. Just a thought. Team up with Scammer Payback, and have a scammer connect to Red Star OS. I bet it would be quite entertaining.
Usually, yes. It's called a port sniffer, the exact same techniques used by 2b2t Minecraft greifers used to get into people's private servers. Windows Vista an earlier can also advertise not only what version they're running but also what network device is communicating.
I use it mainly as a file server, central repository for my main data collection which consists of programs I've created, shareware etc I've downloaded, music, and videos. I don't get on the internet with it because no browser will install on it any more. I use a different Win10 computer for accessing the internet. I got the server free over 10 years ago before we had 8 TB drives. Today it probably wouldn't make sense to set it up as I have but it's still working so why change it, although other newly available options would certainly use less power.
@@gonderage Did you even watch the video? at the end he gets upset becaus people accused him of being fake. Just because he edits videos, does not mean it's fake.
Why? Back then windows was pretty okay for servers. Iirc eBay ran on windows for a while, and stack overflow still does iirc. Obviously I wouldn't chose it right now, but in the 1990s windows was just fine as a server OS
Your videos have been always interesting to watch. I learnt more from your videos than in my school. Also I've got a question what kind of tools do you use while making these videos? (Ofc except the virtual machine)
It doesn't happen anything if the OS is fully updated. Even on 2K/XP/2003 most likely nothing will happen because both Windows and your router have a firewall.
Pretty idiotic you didn’t try hosting a GeoCities esque page on the server onto the public web so you may test your audience towards running each and every unpatched vulnerability exploit through some sort of announcement post as to spread the word. Server ‘03 on the surface is no different than XP, the real technicality is the feature set besides ofc licensing; in other words, we’ve seen this already.
huh nothing's happened to my copy of windows for workgroups 3.1 i've been chatting on irc with it for years. then again i doubt any modern virus is compatible with a 16bit environment, or could run well on a 66mhz 486.
Just a recommendation When you go to do these videos update them with Windows update restored as it will have all the latest updates for these non-supported operating systems
conhoz identifying as "Microsoft compilation" is just random. why? did they not wanna infringe copyright? but, aren't they already doing so with using Microsoft name?
I have a request can you do android if possible I always thought it's near impossible to get malware especially after permission system overhaul in API level 23
Eric, honestly to avoid all those stupid malware is just block SMB port which is 445/TCP. Actually most of bots use it eternal blue exploit to get in, it works to all windows until server 2019 as far i remember.
i really like your videos and i think its crazy that you can be infected just by being connected to the internet alone but i noticed that you always turn the firewall off. would you have the same result if the firewall was on? could you go as far as using these old windows versions with no issues if the firewall was on?
The firewall is what's causing most if not all of the problems, I used Windows 7 SP1 as my daily driver connected to the internet a while ago and I got by just fine.
Elon Musk thinking it was reasonably safe to expose Windows Server to the internet w/o additional measures or not caring at all certainly explains why he though "full self-driving" was ready be4 the pandemic when it barely is now.
@@papajohnscookie Yeah, but in the early days of PayPal they didn't have nearly as high a market share. Also, I'd trust RedHat & co. over M$ any day; especially with those proprietary bits.
@@whohan779what does market share have to do with the OS your servers are running? Just because they prefer a different, very popular OS doesn't make them irrational or delusional.
Was reading through the comments to see if someone else was curious, he’s definitely American but has some very British inflections in his accent occasionally!
microl office and conhoz gotta be the funniest process names i’ve ever seen
we have microsoft office at home.
up there with chrone browser
Group "administators"
Miscrosoft surface moment
made by microsoft Compilation
theres conhoz, microl office but wheres system23
X69 processing.
@@dragonic_ragecore 420 fps
windose
It’s hidden on a dodgy ISO, buried pages and pages deep
System84
0:43 was cut a bit too early, I believe it was, "luckily they didn't go through with his idea."
Probably wasn't even that interesting.
i thought it was a joke implying that they eventually did go through with it lol
"Microl Office" A top product from the creators of "Michaelsoft Binbows"
And theirs child company "Microsoft compilation"
Microsoft stupid designer
Microsoft Microsoft window 298
What happens if you connect Minecraft to arpanet
A Vietnam war vet joins the server and proceeds to have a PTSD war flashback meltdown.
Since ARPAnet doesn't exist...will never know. Unless you're referring to the successor, NIPR?
@@DGTelevsionNetworkyes
@@alexdhallits a joke lol
@@alexdhall *dosen't exist anymore
Alternate title: What happens if you connect Windows Server 2003 to the Internet without any safety features in any year
TRUE
dearrow gang is on it rn
I connected Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7 to the Internet, guess what? Nothing happened
@@wvistalover because firewall
@@_kitaes_ I know that
"it would probably get infected before the setup even finishes" has to be one of the scariest things I have ever heard..
nah thats just funny
@@hksininen fr
That threat is nothing but BS. It's all about using computers INTELLIGENTLY.
@@BurrPulch ? I have no idea where you derived that comment from, or what you mean by that.
He doesn't konw what he us talking about @@NimaSakibo
You know, one of my friends exposed his NT4.0 Advanced Server box that runs Exchange and IIS sometime last year, and the worst that happened was the creation of a few empty folders for all this time. Doing the same on Windows 2000 ended badly, something you've already confirmed yourself. Maybe you should try out NT4 too.
I believe there's an RCE for old IIS, but I've not seen it exploited randomly. SMB is the root of all evil on these systems.
@@EricParker *windows is the root of all evil on these systems
I bet noone wants to exploit these systems
@@Hellscaped there’s same kind of vulnerabilities in Linux of same age
@@sas408 and more that are uneplored
honey wake up Eric Parker posted another old windows on the internet
Windows Activation doesn't work online because the servers have been upgraded to TLS 1.2 and recent certificates, preventing the old OS from connecting.
You can still activate it by phone.
Microl office 🥶🥶🥶🥶
"chrone explor"
conhoz my beloved
How do attackers find such an unsecured windows server? Do they simply poke every possible ipv4 address and hope that eventually they find a server which let's them in?
Yes, they're periodically scanning the whole IPv4 address range and net mapping every device to see which one is vulnerable and has the ports open. Pretty scary.
its 99% automated bots and whatever else
there are only 4billion public ips and that can all be scanned in about half an hour on a gigabit connection and a crappy single core vps.
Wait really? Half an hour for the whole address range? That's even scarier than I thought... :(
@@frankbucciantini388 that is just for pinging so if you actually want to do anything more than catalogue what responses you get then it will be longer. Know a guy that made a scanner to look for public minecraft servers and he told me on that hardware it only takes about 20 minutes. So yes,. in short the internet is a scary place sometimes lol.
I'm doing a sysadmin degree and just found your channel through this video, definitely gonna stick around for your DDs on this kinda stuff. Legacy systems are a great way to study.
I love how his intros keep getting faster.
My corporate server still use windows server 2003 until 2015. . .
We still have a literal handful but all of those are on death row and will be uplifted by the end of this year. We still had a single, solitary, one-off Windows 2000 box running as late as 2017 but it's gone now.
We still have a decent number of 2012 R2 boxes (base 2012 is banned) that are allowed to stay _for now_, but the acceptable minimum at our place is 2016. That makes up the bulk of our estate and we have about a 70-30 split between 2019 and 2022 as well.
0:32 "Famously, Elon Musk, actually the reason he was let go from PayPal is because he wanted to rebase the whole thing around Windows instead of Unix. uh... Luckily they did not-" 😂😂😂
Is it just me or does it get cut off a *bit* early, in the middle of his thought? 🤔
@@alexdhallI think it was intentional...
No NAT, no firewall, what is even the point of these videos besides stating the obvious?
The paypal fact got cut off. What were you going to say?
Why would anyone use this over linux? You have to buy a license per every connection? WTF?
Depends on the server edition, each user OR device using the server needs to be licensed (web hosting does not require additional licensing).
Unfortunately Windows Server is the only (viable, scalable, and reliable) way to manage dozens, or hundreds of windows boxes on a network (Active Directory, WSUS, BranchCache, and of course Group Policy)
Linux can't effectively manage Windows endpoints without a ton of headaches / compromises. *nix OSes have several applications that they're great at but this isn't one of them.
@@jimnor8817 Yep, we have loads of Linux stuff in our estate that Windows clients can auth against, but it's not AD. We have AD groups to manage application/system access and that access will allow your AD account to authenticate against those, but our actual directory management is AD. Vintela is used as a shim for the Unix estate.
How do you get the networking setup so it's not behind a NAT and exposed to the internet? Sorry for asking a question you've probably answered countless times.
He explained it in the first video
@@Masterix.What is the name of the video?
@@capulcununteki "What happens if you expose Windows 98 to the Internet in 2024?" I think
@@Masterix. I saw his explanation in the comments of the first video he made for Windows XP. He says he uses Proxmox VM, but I wish he would make another video on how to create the configuration.
@@capulcununteki Yeah, sadly I can't help you with that, but there should be enough of tutorials on the internet about using Proxmox, no?
2:18 Nese Server 2003 also ended today. It's based on Windows Server 2003 but, it's difficult if updates are pre-installed. But, Nese Server 2003 ended today (like July 8, 2024)
Underrated Channel. I love learning aboute these obsecure and outdated OS's. I remember growing up on XP, and am nostalgic for it at times, even though its no longer safe to use. Just a thought. Team up with Scammer Payback, and have a scammer connect to Red Star OS. I bet it would be quite entertaining.
microl office and microsoft compilation is peak process info name
I never understood how they could open programs inside C:/windows, like they have a script that detects networks without firewalls?
Usually, yes. It's called a port sniffer, the exact same techniques used by 2b2t Minecraft greifers used to get into people's private servers. Windows Vista an earlier can also advertise not only what version they're running but also what network device is communicating.
@@DGTelevsionNetwork awesome! But how it works? Like ot detects by waves or it needs to someone download a drive to ir work?
Another old operating system video! Thanks Eric
The fact you keep getting harassed by conhoz is hilarious
Microl Office is a highlight as well
Mine has been connected to the internet for years, still is as of July 2024. I have no intention of changing it.
What do you use it for?
I use it mainly as a file server, central repository for my main data collection which consists of programs I've created, shareware etc I've downloaded, music, and videos. I don't get on the internet with it because no browser will install on it any more. I use a different Win10 computer for accessing the internet. I got the server free over 10 years ago before we had 8 TB drives. Today it probably wouldn't make sense to set it up as I have but it's still working so why change it, although other newly available options would certainly use less power.
@@BurrPulchmypal, palemoon and a few others work on windows xp.
@@BurrPulch hello i use OS 2003 and icant launch .exe file can you help to configure please ?
There will always be someone who says ""You're fake"" just because you edit your videos. Don't let it get to you, mate.
"mate"
who the heck is saying that
@@gonderage Did you even watch the video? at the end he gets upset becaus people accused him of being fake. Just because he edits videos, does not mean it's fake.
CONHOZ III: REVENGE OF THE SITH
idk man microl office seems legit to me idk what youre talking about
Did you snapshot the install before you turn to the network connection on? You should always snapshot the install. Saves that half hour.
1:07 holy moly LAIN mentioned❤
Kinda fun how you only got Conhoz on XP, but WS2k3 gets the funky ones. Mirai? Oh shi-
Microsoft compilation and microl office hell naw
0:35 lmao yet another elon L
also the cutoff was funny
Why? Back then windows was pretty okay for servers. Iirc eBay ran on windows for a while, and stack overflow still does iirc.
Obviously I wouldn't chose it right now, but in the 1990s windows was just fine as a server OS
I wonder what could happen on ReactOS. It is similar to Server 2003.
Your videos have been always interesting to watch.
I learnt more from your videos than in my school.
Also I've got a question what kind of tools do you use while making these videos? (Ofc except the virtual machine)
"how else do you want your (windows) server to be"
behind a big ass firewall, i never even trusted it enough to not put HAProxy in front of IIS.
When for Windows Vista and 7 ??? i have a netbook with W7 and i don´t if is secure or not
I'm pretty sure that's still fine.
It doesn't happen anything if the OS is fully updated. Even on 2K/XP/2003 most likely nothing will happen because both Windows and your router have a firewall.
Windows Server 2003's firewall might as well just be an IOU hastily scrawled on a sticky note
He turned the firewall off.
@@phenom957 Clearly you've never worked with 2003
I wonder what will happen if you connect windows 7 to the internet without a firewall...
Doing that too with no problems whatsoever. Oh, wait, it is behind a NAT...No firewall though.
More video skips! 0:42
Wait so if i use some old windows older than idk xp, a magic flying malware would just sit in my pc rentfree if i try to open internet?
No
no, hes using no firewall
has your ISP ever been like “yo what the fuck bro”
Pretty idiotic you didn’t try hosting a GeoCities esque page on the server onto the public web so you may test your audience towards running each and every unpatched vulnerability exploit through some sort of announcement post as to spread the word. Server ‘03 on the surface is no different than XP, the real technicality is the feature set besides ofc licensing; in other words, we’ve seen this already.
nice seeing you again
huh nothing's happened to my copy of windows for workgroups 3.1 i've been chatting on irc with it for years. then again i doubt any modern virus is compatible with a 16bit environment, or could run well on a 66mhz 486.
why do you always disable firewall on older systems?
its fake video
@@GameskoTVlol no
Because nothing would have happened otherwise, he needs some content
- Do you always pee through a closed zipper?
- Yes, always
I just found out microsoft still hosts this on their website
What accent do you have Eric I cannot figure out where you are from
Fun fact: a massive distributor of Adult Toys still uses SharePoint server 2003 as a CRM. Its not fun to support.
Server 2003 was the bomb. Especially the SBS version
Why is the recording running at like 2fps?
Are you going to make a video about connecting Windows Vista to the internet?
it helps to rename the exe of process explorer to some random name. some malware checks if procecp is running...
Just a recommendation When you go to do these videos update them with Windows update restored as it will have all the latest updates for these non-supported operating systems
Yeah that's what I would have liked to see too. And the XP one but with all the Posready updates till 2019.
"We have safe system at home"
Safe system at home:
conhoz identifying as "Microsoft compilation" is just random. why? did they not wanna infringe copyright? but, aren't they already doing so with using Microsoft name?
It's just a way of masking it as something legitimate.
2003 was and is the best OS from MS. I hate the treat-us-as-babies 2016-2022 GUI.
How is it found just by being connected? Packet sniffers and telemetry?
Welcome back, conhoz!
Mom can we have Internet?
No, we have Internet at home.
Internet at home:
no bots here yet? damn
BEEP BOOP
BOOP BEEP 🤖
any robots in chat?
I have a request can you do android if possible I always thought it's near impossible to get malware especially after permission system overhaul in API level 23
Why would anybody want to download viruses on Android? lol
Can you do Windows Embedded Posready 2009 with all the updates up to 2019?
Naming my kid microl office
What I don't get is how it's possible that not all scanners detect the malware
Some scanners are so bad
The pyc file should be unpackable with uncompyle6 depending on Python version used.
Windows server 2008?
"What happens if you connect Windows Server 2003 to the Internet in 2024 and turn all the security features off."
Hey, I've been following your videos for quite a while and have been wondering what program you use to make these WMs
Probably VMware Player/Workstation.
I miss old windows :( Love the vids!
WE GONNA USE MICROL OFFICE EXEL WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
5:40 microsoft compilation 😭😂
Mitsubishi Materials
No updates and no firewall ? What did you expect.
Hello buddy, my names is James.
Feels like there is an issue with your video, it seems like 10fps or something
Is it me or is your system really laggy?
You could have just asked some SMB sysadmins still running it
Eric, honestly to avoid all those stupid malware is just block SMB port which is 445/TCP.
Actually most of bots use it eternal blue exploit to get in, it works to all windows until server 2019 as far i remember.
Video was great man loved it!
what did you love about it
@@RraltKing Microsoft Compilation
@@trimidsmod6391 ew your mirco soft???
@@RraltKing I will make you micro soft
What site are you using during 8:31?
its called triage
i think you have to sign in to use it
@@unknown2023.5 ah ok. thank you!
i really like your videos and i think its crazy that you can be infected just by being connected to the internet alone but i noticed that you always turn the firewall off. would you have the same result if the firewall was on? could you go as far as using these old windows versions with no issues if the firewall was on?
The firewall is what's causing most if not all of the problems, I used Windows 7 SP1 as my daily driver connected to the internet a while ago and I got by just fine.
@@Makinri explain, other videos say XP with a firewall and basic protection is fine enough in response to the XP version of this video
yep, this video is fake
@@GameskoTV figures, point out how its fake though
@@patg108 you can see "xp sp3 worm" in the taskbar at 2:50 in the XP version of this video right before it cuts.
sigma episode again
I didn't understand how the system gets infected without downloading any files?
Same here... Trying to find an answer under the comments section.. no luck.. yet
@@su1ka me too
I believe they usually use vulnerabilities in the SMB (file sharing) service.
Eternal Blue
7:29 "IO.SYS"
Me, as a Touhou fan: *Why why why don't I miss you a lot forever?*
Intresting a Microsoft patch help Fox this vulnerable?
Last time i tried, you could still activate using the phone. :)
Do Windows 7 next
Elon Musk thinking it was reasonably safe to expose Windows Server to the internet w/o additional measures or not caring at all certainly explains why he though "full self-driving" was ready be4 the pandemic when it barely is now.
you know linux servers can be comprimised too right 😅
@@papajohnscookie Yeah, but in the early days of PayPal they didn't have nearly as high a market share. Also, I'd trust RedHat & co. over M$ any day; especially with those proprietary bits.
@@whohan779what does market share have to do with the OS your servers are running? Just because they prefer a different, very popular OS doesn't make them irrational or delusional.
I think Eric posts more than most casual UA-camrs 😂
It’s like Dailydoseoferic
i know this doesnt have anything to do with the video but i was very curious what is your accent?
Was reading through the comments to see if someone else was curious, he’s definitely American but has some very British inflections in his accent occasionally!
conhoz is the new wannacry
libre office would've been more undetectable ngl
wait u use mac?
Bad stuff. Bad stuff happens.
Microsoft Compilation 💀💀💀
I dont get it
Michaelsoft Binbows moment
ms08-067 says hello.