I don't want to be mean, but seeing what a trainwreck the Orient Express was, and seeing that the level of detail is pretty low to begin with, I think that if that set makes it, the only thing remaining from the Flying Scotsman will be the colour, if even that...
@@MrSam1er I think there can be made a difference between the concept of the Orient Express, which is not necessarily a specific train, and the flying scotsman, which is. Kind of like Concorde. It's a specific aircraft, and they know that it needs to be realistic if it has to be sold as a lego version of that specific vehicle, otherwise people would not buy it.
The "Wild West" train is really interesting, you can tell how much love the designer has for the era considering they went with a later styled Ten Wheeler instead of the more obvious American type with the big cinder catcher and ornate paint that's been done so many times.
One thing Lego trains have been lacking for decades is a small tank engine being sold on its own. All the locomotives are restricted to huge expensive sets. The barrier to entry is way too big. There needs to be something that smaller train fans can afford too! Besides, who doesn't love a small classic steam engine?
The sad truth is that Lego treat its own train theme very badly. They do not offer single trains or wagons, although they did this 35 years ago. And i do not see them changing this anytime soon. They only want to sell the 160 $/€ complete sets and maybe some extra train tracks - but that's it. If you want to buy train stuff, go to Bluebrixx. They not only have single wagons etc. but also a water tower, tracks with a bigger radius, steam trains ans much more. They got everything from a tiny BR-89 steam train to a HUGE 5.500 bricks V100 diesel locomotive.
Well... they sorta did that not long ago - 40370 (the anniversary set based on 7810) was exactly that and it wasn't even expensive back then either. Though strictly speaking its layout speaks for a tender so while not technically a tank engine it's easily MOC'd into one. I totally follow you on the 'less expensive, less complex' route for Lego trains though. Having lived through the grey era I find the modern Lego trains somehow over-the-top when it comes to complexity and playability. Don't get me wrong, I love the looks of my Emerald Night and Horizon Express however IMO the older trains still possess a simplistic charm to them that's very hard to beat, plus the older trains run a lot better on complex track layouts. Had TLC designed their train sets reminiscent to those the cost would be considerably lower and potentially initiate higher sales. Then the serious MOCers can create their elaborate builds if they so desire
@@localsheriff I'm really glad the Steam Engine remake set exists, but unfortunately, it was exclusive to being a gift with purchase. The last small locomotive that you could actually buy was in the My Own Train series back in 2001, over two decades ago. The Winter Holiday Train from 2016 wasn't THAT expensive when it was first released and the locomotive was cute, but it was still a big set with a bunch of other stuff in it. There was the crocodile locomotive, but that was also 100 bucks almost. There's a Bowser train coming up in the lego Super Mario series, but that's also a big set. They make small car sets all the time, but not locomotives. It's a shame.
the wild west train looks amazing just great looking and the track terrain and water tower and windmill look awesome. the logging train is also so well made. i hope i can get them
I love the elevated under rail train the best. Sadly They don't make powerful motors anymore which is why they said they couldn't power the Orient Express. Though you can get knock-off PF motors that have enough power to pull an Emerald Knight still from China. If Lego really wants to go energy efficient and save the planet... they could just go back to 9v motors (No batteries for landfills) and the 9v can power a wide range of motors and now track accessories. They should combine 9v technology with the new blue tooth technology to make the most amazing Lego train system ever. They could offer a wide range of lighting, signals, switches, as well as train motors that all work. However, they need to learn for Hobby Train companies that sell most items as stand alone engines, cars, trackside items.... it's more affordable. More ppl will spend 10-20 a car rather than dropping 200-300 at one time. Small purchases will add up over time faster. This would allow more variety and BL designs if we had proper powering solutions that made Lego Trains closer to Hobby Trains that have 100% of everything powered.
the reason they got rid of 9v was more for safety since lego is a kids toy, of course if they're pandering to adults now I don't see why they can't bring it back
@@Bishounen I was around when 9v existed and it had nothing to do with kid safety. They did it to move into PF so they had 1 type to make for mindstorm, technic, trains, and other sets instead of a train, and battery motors. It was about cost savings to them. In fact, I read every post and video at that time heavily in the fight to keep 9v and NOBODY brought up kid safety. You can lick your fingers stick em across track and not really shock you I still run 9v.
How do you know? The flying Scotsman is an iconic train and there are a lot of kids who are in to it never mind the adults. Plus they could sell it the through the Railway Museum where Scotsman is housed. I think there is a lot of scope for money making for it.
Sadly I missed out on Studgate Station but I am most certainly going to pick up Brick Cross Station. It's incredible and a must have for me. I also truly hope that City Burger Ideas set happens because that'd be a must have too for me.
I would REALLY like that Big Boy to get made - I've been considering for some time trying to figure out how to do an 8-wheel driver arrangement, and here someone's done the hard work for me! I also would really LOVE to see the Flying Scotsman get made - it would be great to finally see another new color for those train wheels, and I can imagine that a lot of European Railfans-of-LEGO would love to finally see a magnetic buffer in red, what with the last one being a locomotive base that was last produced in red sometime prior to 1990 before being removed from the portfolio entirely between then and 2000. Also, yes, 7,000HP! That's enough to push a stalled freight train up a steep grade with its own train still connected behind it, and with minimal wheelslip! They sure don't make them like THAT anymore!
I would buy the Big Boy without hesitation. I would prefer it to be motorized. I would have to wait for a great GWP, along the lines of the 40712 Micro Rocket Space Pad, but that is how Lego set this system up. What do people think this set would be priced at?
@@drewbojda8174 I would buy two Challengers then. I would build one to display and one to keep in the box. I would set up a track in the family room if it was motorized. I think my kids would really like playing with it. We could put around the outside of the Lego Table. I would buy the passenger cars if they made them as well. Lego could parlay that into a set of older black pullmans and a more modern (preferably yellow) passenger cars. I would get both sets.
Having wanted a lego train set for my Christmas tree, I am gonna need a lot more color or "looks" than the trains offered. The flying scott's man in more details however would do it for me.
The Flying Scottsman was not the first steam engine to break 100mph, that's the City of Truro. The Flying Scottsman does have the London to Edinburgh record, however
It is Lego IDEAS, even if they are actually doing trains, it will result in a massive change from the original design, just like the recent "Orient Express". Lego will reduce the details, suck out the designs life and doulbe the price - excellent deal. The Bigboy is a BAD idea, because it will be impossible to use on Legos original train tracks. The "Flying Scotsman", the 2 western trains and especially the "Suitcase Express" are great designs. The train-in-a-box would be 10/10, instant buy.
As hopeful as I am to get a new train (particularly the Big Boy, that one is my favorite) they did just release the Orient Express...Which was *also* a Lego Ideas set, so...The chance of them making *another* train is kinda low, unfortunately.
If they are doing big boy, just do it as a display rather than motorised, it's to big for track, I would buy it un-motorised, Scotsman would be great, with or without carriages and would run on current tracks and a definite purchase for me
National railway museum has already commissioned a flyings Scotsman set from one of these offbrand Lego companies I saw one for sale at model rail Scotland
I love the logging train and trestle. Unfortunately I don’t envision realistically being able to incorporate it into my home layouts, and I’m not one for static display😢. I’ll probably pass. I’d be happy with any/all of the rest.
I was thinking to myself about how to make the trestle into an up and down and connect with track to then motorise but would have to wait to get it to see what’s possible
I really want a powered classic locomotive. I am struggling because i am in love with the era and also a huge fan of the Agatha Christie story Murder on the Orient Express. So I am torn- I am likely going to buy the Orient Express, but don’t want to do the work to power it. And I don’t really want a modern powered train if I build a city with the Boutique Hotel, Library, History Museum etc…and my vision of the future has an Orient Express looping the Adventure in Transylvania BrickLink. I just don’t know what my options are. Fun Fact. As an American, I should have an affinity for the Wild West. Its basically our “Medieval”. But I have always been more drawn to the Old World *shrug emoji*
Orient Express had a lot of issues, the original sticker sheet before they corrected it being beyond stupid, and although it can be motorised it's too heavy will burn through them quick. All that said I have it and, with the corrected stickers, I do really like it. I overlook it's flaws and enjoy what it represents - I also switched in some minifigs including one that looks just like Poirot. Better for getting on sale if you can but wouldn't miss out overall
Given that they just did the Orient Express, I highly doubt they will approve another Ideas train project at this point (especially with all the BDP train projects as well)
True that the S1 is long and lean, with one of the longest tenders in the world. But the engine without the tender isn’t and its boiler is quite slender. The Big Boy has both greater weight and volume and is longer without the tenders, so it's down to how you look at it to choose which is biggest along with which you find more memorable
I doubt they're going to pick a train primarily because they just made the orient express. They'll see how that does in sales. if it does poorly they'll avoid lego train.
2:19 where did you get that idea I see a lot of kids at Lego conventions and the Lego parks, Lego is that they’re all time high. the Lego stunt sets motorcycles we’re doing really good because of kids (By the way, not in a rude tone )
the big boy is way to big for lego unfortunately. unless lego redoes all its curve track and switches to accommodate such a large train, its a pointless build if it can't run. Idk. just my view. I also do model trains along with Lego.
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I can’t lie. If Lego made a set of the Flying Scotsman, I would buy it.
Yup. In a flash.
I don't want to be mean, but seeing what a trainwreck the Orient Express was, and seeing that the level of detail is pretty low to begin with, I think that if that set makes it, the only thing remaining from the Flying Scotsman will be the colour, if even that...
@@MrSam1er I think there can be made a difference between the concept of the Orient Express, which is not necessarily a specific train, and the flying scotsman, which is. Kind of like Concorde. It's a specific aircraft, and they know that it needs to be realistic if it has to be sold as a lego version of that specific vehicle, otherwise people would not buy it.
Same here
Who wouldnt
The "Wild West" train is really interesting, you can tell how much love the designer has for the era considering they went with a later styled Ten Wheeler instead of the more obvious American type with the big cinder catcher and ornate paint that's been done so many times.
One thing Lego trains have been lacking for decades is a small tank engine being sold on its own. All the locomotives are restricted to huge expensive sets.
The barrier to entry is way too big. There needs to be something that smaller train fans can afford too!
Besides, who doesn't love a small classic steam engine?
The sad truth is that Lego treat its own train theme very badly. They do not offer single trains or wagons, although they did this 35 years ago. And i do not see them changing this anytime soon. They only want to sell the 160 $/€ complete sets and maybe some extra train tracks - but that's it.
If you want to buy train stuff, go to Bluebrixx. They not only have single wagons etc. but also a water tower, tracks with a bigger radius, steam trains ans much more. They got everything from a tiny BR-89 steam train to a HUGE 5.500 bricks V100 diesel locomotive.
Yes it does need the barrier to entry removing
Well... they sorta did that not long ago - 40370 (the anniversary set based on 7810) was exactly that and it wasn't even expensive back then either. Though strictly speaking its layout speaks for a tender so while not technically a tank engine it's easily MOC'd into one.
I totally follow you on the 'less expensive, less complex' route for Lego trains though. Having lived through the grey era I find the modern Lego trains somehow over-the-top when it comes to complexity and playability. Don't get me wrong, I love the looks of my Emerald Night and Horizon Express however IMO the older trains still possess a simplistic charm to them that's very hard to beat, plus the older trains run a lot better on complex track layouts. Had TLC designed their train sets reminiscent to those the cost would be considerably lower and potentially initiate higher sales. Then the serious MOCers can create their elaborate builds if they so desire
@@localsheriff I'm really glad the Steam Engine remake set exists, but unfortunately, it was exclusive to being a gift with purchase.
The last small locomotive that you could actually buy was in the My Own Train series back in 2001, over two decades ago.
The Winter Holiday Train from 2016 wasn't THAT expensive when it was first released and the locomotive was cute, but it was still a big set with a bunch of other stuff in it.
There was the crocodile locomotive, but that was also 100 bucks almost.
There's a Bowser train coming up in the lego Super Mario series, but that's also a big set.
They make small car sets all the time, but not locomotives. It's a shame.
@@Stud-Lordwhen will lego make polar Express trains anyway?
I have been trying for years to not get into model trains, and now LEGO!!!!
lol
Look at other manufacturers and the prices, that might cure the urge to buy lego trains a little bit
the wild west train looks amazing just great looking and the track terrain and water tower and windmill look awesome. the logging train is also so well made. i hope i can get them
Absolutely, well said
I would love it if they released the modular building with the tunnel or the sky train. Both are my favourite.
The suspended monorail idea is excellent … and would be right at home amongst Monkie King and Ninjago City sets
i not going to lie either if they made the big boy class i would buy it for sure it looks like a awesome set to have
A lot of us would buy the Big Boy for sure. Such an iconic engine
I love the elevated under rail train the best. Sadly They don't make powerful motors anymore which is why they said they couldn't power the Orient Express. Though you can get knock-off PF motors that have enough power to pull an Emerald Knight still from China. If Lego really wants to go energy efficient and save the planet... they could just go back to 9v motors (No batteries for landfills) and the 9v can power a wide range of motors and now track accessories. They should combine 9v technology with the new blue tooth technology to make the most amazing Lego train system ever. They could offer a wide range of lighting, signals, switches, as well as train motors that all work. However, they need to learn for Hobby Train companies that sell most items as stand alone engines, cars, trackside items.... it's more affordable.
More ppl will spend 10-20 a car rather than dropping 200-300 at one time. Small purchases will add up over time faster. This would allow more variety and BL designs if we had proper powering solutions that made Lego Trains closer to Hobby Trains that have 100% of everything powered.
That's a really interesting point. Makes a lot of sense
the reason they got rid of 9v was more for safety since lego is a kids toy, of course if they're pandering to adults now I don't see why they can't bring it back
@@Bishounen I was around when 9v existed and it had nothing to do with kid safety. They did it to move into PF so they had 1 type to make for mindstorm, technic, trains, and other sets instead of a train, and battery motors. It was about cost savings to them. In fact, I read every post and video at that time heavily in the fight to keep 9v and NOBODY brought up kid safety. You can lick your fingers stick em across track and not really shock you I still run 9v.
I would love the logging railway set but I have never ordered off brick link nor do I see a sku number for reference
Ideas isn't going to do a new train anytime soon. TLG made a lot of mistakes with the Orient Express, further sabotaging lego trains.
You never know when they might think of doing another train let's hope the next one if it ever gets approved will be good
How do you know? The flying Scotsman is an iconic train and there are a lot of kids who are in to it never mind the adults. Plus they could sell it the through the Railway Museum where Scotsman is housed. I think there is a lot of scope for money making for it.
I saw an advert for the Orient Express set and was unimpressed.
There was nowhere near enough murder suspect minifigures.
Cracking opening line. Coo-coo for chu-chu! 😂
;)
I would prefer a My Own Train revival with Powered Up functions.
Nice Lego trains layouts
both the big boy and the flying scotsman would be amazing to run side by side if they both come out with motors in them
The Suspension Railway (05:14) is of wonderful design, really fantastic model IMO!
Totally agree, looks awesome
8:59 Japanese, Taiwanese and Korean rail stations extremely clean :DDD however the model isn't based on one
lol
Stephenson's Rocket is up on Rebrickable now too - wagons and scenery to follow.
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Sadly I missed out on Studgate Station but I am most certainly going to pick up Brick Cross Station. It's incredible and a must have for me. I also truly hope that City Burger Ideas set happens because that'd be a must have too for me.
It’s a great looking station and I think it’s going to be very popular
I would certainly buy the Flying Scotsman. Fantastic train.
I would REALLY like that Big Boy to get made - I've been considering for some time trying to figure out how to do an 8-wheel driver arrangement, and here someone's done the hard work for me! I also would really LOVE to see the Flying Scotsman get made - it would be great to finally see another new color for those train wheels, and I can imagine that a lot of European Railfans-of-LEGO would love to finally see a magnetic buffer in red, what with the last one being a locomotive base that was last produced in red sometime prior to 1990 before being removed from the portfolio entirely between then and 2000.
Also, yes, 7,000HP! That's enough to push a stalled freight train up a steep grade with its own train still connected behind it, and with minimal wheelslip! They sure don't make them like THAT anymore!
That Wild West train is innnnnnnncredible!!!
It’s great isn’t it 👍
After the Orient express debacel, my expectations are quite low... Maybe another thomas the engine locomotive will be released?
I would buy the Big Boy without hesitation. I would prefer it to be motorized. I would have to wait for a great GWP, along the lines of the 40712 Micro Rocket Space Pad, but that is how Lego set this system up. What do people think this set would be priced at?
60/99
@@drewbojda8174 I would buy two Challengers then. I would build one to display and one to keep in the box. I would set up a track in the family room if it was motorized. I think my kids would really like playing with it. We could put around the outside of the Lego Table. I would buy the passenger cars if they made them as well. Lego could parlay that into a set of older black pullmans and a more modern (preferably yellow) passenger cars. I would get both sets.
The flying Scotsman (if you want to modify it and have the right pieces of blue) Jimmy made into a convincing Gordon...
Agreed on the suspension rail set. It is brilliant, just like you! ;)
Flattery will get you nowhere… who’m I kidding, it totally does ❤️ thanks 🙏
That Big Boy probably won’t get selected. I’ll be saving my money for the Wild West train. It looks fantastic
Yeah the Wild West one is my favourite
Love the Flying Scotsman!
“Hello big boy” >:3
Having wanted a lego train set for my Christmas tree, I am gonna need a lot more color or "looks" than the trains offered. The flying scott's man in more details however would do it for me.
The Flying Scotsman would FLY off the shelves❤
Good gob on the video! I really liked the one you did with the castles!
I mean, who hasn't stood there admiring some large wood with a chopper in their hand, am I right?
Right on 👍
Bigboys is only the largest steam locomotive if you ingore the steam locomotive that at some point where larger.
If Lego made a lot of steam engines I would have an entire fleet of engines
Great video. Brick Cross looks amazing!
The workings suspension railway I would buy two of them one for part and the other a display piece
It’s so clever, I really want it as a set
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While I would love a Lego Big Boy, I’m afraid that it would cost $300
The Flying Scottsman was not the first steam engine to break 100mph, that's the City of Truro. The Flying Scottsman does have the London to Edinburgh record, however
Flying Scotsman was the first officially authenticated. City of Truro cannot be proven as done by stopwatch
I want the wild west train to go with some lego cowboys I got a couple months ago.
Lego need to do the Big Boy in the same as the titanic, needs to be mind blowingly impressive, imagine a 90-100cm long Big Boy
Lol. I don't think we should get into measuring our Big Boys.
I would be extremely pissed off if lego gave us a UP Big Boy that couldn’t fit on lego track.
It is Lego IDEAS, even if they are actually doing trains, it will result in a massive change from the original design, just like the recent "Orient Express". Lego will reduce the details, suck out the designs life and doulbe the price - excellent deal.
The Bigboy is a BAD idea, because it will be impossible to use on Legos original train tracks. The "Flying Scotsman", the 2 western trains and especially the "Suitcase Express" are great designs. The train-in-a-box would be 10/10, instant buy.
As hopeful as I am to get a new train (particularly the Big Boy, that one is my favorite) they did just release the Orient Express...Which was *also* a Lego Ideas set, so...The chance of them making *another* train is kinda low, unfortunately.
If they are doing big boy, just do it as a display rather than motorised, it's to big for track, I would buy it un-motorised, Scotsman would be great, with or without carriages and would run on current tracks and a definite purchase for me
National railway museum has already commissioned a flyings Scotsman set from one of these offbrand Lego companies I saw one for sale at model rail Scotland
Oh really? Didn’t know that, that’s cool
I hope that doesn’t mean lego can’t acquire some sort of license to make the train
I'm excited for the wild west train set
That train case would be something
If the big boy came as a actual lego set, I would be like
"Shut up and take my money!💰
lol
I love the logging train and trestle. Unfortunately I don’t envision realistically being able to incorporate it into my home layouts, and I’m not one for static display😢. I’ll probably pass. I’d be happy with any/all of the rest.
I was thinking to myself about how to make the trestle into an up and down and connect with track to then motorise but would have to wait to get it to see what’s possible
Awesome video!! 😊
Thanks! 😊
I really want a powered classic locomotive. I am struggling because i am in love with the era and also a huge fan of the Agatha Christie story Murder on the Orient Express. So I am torn- I am likely going to buy the Orient Express, but don’t want to do the work to power it. And I don’t really want a modern powered train if I build a city with the Boutique Hotel, Library, History Museum etc…and my vision of the future has an Orient Express looping the Adventure in Transylvania BrickLink. I just don’t know what my options are.
Fun Fact. As an American, I should have an affinity for the Wild West. Its basically our “Medieval”. But I have always been more drawn to the Old World *shrug emoji*
Orient Express had a lot of issues, the original sticker sheet before they corrected it being beyond stupid, and although it can be motorised it's too heavy will burn through them quick. All that said I have it and, with the corrected stickers, I do really like it. I overlook it's flaws and enjoy what it represents - I also switched in some minifigs including one that looks just like Poirot. Better for getting on sale if you can but wouldn't miss out overall
A Scotsman would be amazing to see. Although I know bricklink is destroying my wallet with these sets haha. Already preordered the train shed.
Too right lol
They should do a revival of the my own train line but with the option to create a completely custom train
Given that they just did the Orient Express, I highly doubt they will approve another Ideas train project at this point (especially with all the BDP train projects as well)
You’re brilliant.
🙏
yes
sorry if I am being picky but the s1 was actually the largest steam locomotive
True that the S1 is long and lean, with one of the longest tenders in the world. But the engine without the tender isn’t and its boiler is quite slender. The Big Boy has both greater weight and volume and is longer without the tenders, so it's down to how you look at it to choose which is biggest along with which you find more memorable
The name for this station is a rip-off of king's cross station sign and then they just replace the kings bit with brick
not so much in to LEGO train -- but the Wild West is nice :D
It's a nice mix, I enjoy when they combine themes
Don't care for trains but love the suspended rail set....
Fair enough. The suspended railway is seriously cool 👌
I doubt they're going to pick a train primarily because they just made the orient express. They'll see how that does in sales. if it does poorly they'll avoid lego train.
@stud lord im 14 and im also a huge fan of lego
Great. Don’t lose the passion!
6:45 nobody is going to talk about the fact that the tracks are build illegal????
If Lego makes the Big Boy…consider one set already sold! Hear me Lego?❤😊
👍
12:00 you sound a bit like Henry Cavill 💁🏻♂️
You just earned yourself a heart ❤️ sadly I don’t look like him
What about the price you're guessing for that wild west train?
The big boy is not the largest locomotive in the world.
2:19 where did you get that idea I see a lot of kids at Lego conventions and the Lego parks, Lego is that they’re all time high. the Lego stunt sets motorcycles we’re doing really good because of kids
(By the way, not in a rude tone )
the big boy is way to big for lego unfortunately. unless lego redoes all its curve track and switches to accommodate such a large train, its a pointless build if it can't run. Idk. just my view. I also do model trains along with Lego.
The image with the big boy on the curved tracks makes it look like it can fit on tight curves
Referring to the locomotive, "hello big boy" 💀
Lego make it Look shit and then another Company Show how it‘s done. For 100$ less
Lul
Anyone else thought of King's Cross when we saw brick Cross?