Satechi 200W USB-C 6-Port PD GaN Charger Review and Test
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- Satechi 200W USB-C 6-Port PD GaN Charger Review and Test
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In this video I look at another power adapter, even more power adapter power adapter power adapter. Watch to find out what’s been done well, also both 230v 50 Hz and 120v 60 Hz are covered. The Satechi 200W USB-C 6-PORT PD GAN - US Charger model ST-C200GM-US is covered here. A link to it is below.
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I really appreciate you making these videos. The testing and data you provide is so important for consumers IMO.
Thanks! I try. I wish I could do more.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Question, i've been seeing some "Type-C To DC Jack" being sold online, are those legit ? i plan to use them on a laptop that doesn't support charging through usb-c.
@@JoshuaG Yeah, I use one every day since my laptop doesn't support USB C charging. Read reviews do a little research and make sure you get one that is appropriate for your needs.
Thank you for the excellent review. It looks like a 6 port charger just isn't quite there yet. I've been waiting for this review from you, thanks again.
Yeah, I wonder if they’ll revise it at some point.
Hey man, you deserve way more subscribers. This video gave me more information than people with 10x as many subscribers' videos did. The idle power draw and knowing my 16 inch MacBook will be starved of power if I even plug in a set of headphones or a phone turns me away. Thanks heaps
Thanks!
Your review is for people related to electronics but not for a simple mortal on earth.
Thank you for the effort.
Yeah, it is.
Thanks, stellar reviews. Easy to make buying decisions🙏
Glad you like them!
this is a very good and information-rich review, thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great video again. I discovered that Satechi just did a 200w when UGREEN was the only brand with one. Thanks for the test.
Wotobeus has one too but that’s also got issues.
@@AllThingsOnePlace interesting, I’ve only seen the 140W from Wotobeus. I’m guessing that it’s just a matter of time before we see more 200W chargers. Out of curiosity, based on all your testing, which brands (considering all variations you’ve tested only) has the most reliable chargers? I’ve heard you mention Anker a few times amongst others.
@@zenicoz I have a ways to go before getting good reliability stats on power adapters. One challenge is manufacturers often use different OEM's so an adapter from Apple may come from different manufacturers and have a different Mean Time Before Failure, MTBF. I doubt manufacturers are doing full MTBF failure analysis on a lot of adapters that are being released today. It can take years to get this data. The ones that run hot aren't going to do so great if you do accelerated aging at a higher temperature. The ones that run cooler or have higher efficiency, which do tend to be Adapters from Anker or Baseus, I'd expect to last longer. Baseus has quality control issues so, its more of an if it works out of the box it'll be fine situation.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I’ve never considered that dimension into the comparison of adapters, although it makes a lot of sense. Then that would make your comparisons way more interesting since the brand won’t matter as much as the OEM since the design doesn’t always come from the brand (like Apple does) and for example it would mean that the OEM used by Baseus isn’t as reliable as the one from Anker. Correct me if I’m wrong. This feels like an entire story full of rabbit roles 😂
Thank you so much for all your charger videos. It has really helped me narrow down the choices.
Right now I am considering the following - Anker 140W, Anker 150W, Clone 140W, Satechi 165W, UGreen 200w for my charging needs.
I would like at least one 140W charger to charge my Anker 140W 26K power bank when needed to charge quick. At first I thought of having multiple desktop chargers if having 2 smaller ones offers better combined power quality but then again I can always backup on the original chargers the devices comes with. After a few weeks of watching your videos multiple times and going through a bunch of reviews, the choice don't get easier lol..
Found 2 very interesting chargers that may not pass your idle score but would be really awesome if you can put it in the list of to-review chargers.
First one is the ASOMETECH 260W GaN PD3.1 charger with built in wireless charging support only available from aliexpress, interesting it's under $100.
Second is the OTAO 200W charger with LCD display available on Amazon (also under a couple other brand names).
The ASOMETECH 260W is something that I would be interested in picking up along with the gadget factor.
The OTAO looks like they're using the same OEM as Wotobeus, I know that form factor power adapter overheats like crazy. Over 90C on the case. I do have a 240 and a 245w with EPR to check out, I expect cases are going to get hot. The UGREEN 200W is big, as is the Satechi 200W but it gives them enough surface area to dissipate that heat effectively. There are a lot of big adapters to check out. Thanks for the suggestions!
@@AllThingsOnePlace
Keeping up with technology is like chasing the dragons tail. By the time you get your chargers purchased and setup, new and possibly more efficient ones are on the way to Amazon's warehouse lol...
I was trying to find an all in one charger that can replace most if not all of the chargers I am using on my PC/Desk with at least one port that can output 140W. There are many 200W/140W chargers that don't offer 140W charging. I suppose they need to leave room for future devices? :D I was considering the UGreen 200W (not the Satechi due to the high idle power draw) but it didn't do 140W and the promotion $159 - $10 just ended last night so it was a non starter.
Saw your video regarding the Wotobeus 200W, definitely going to stay far away from a 90c unit... my i7-12700 don't even hit that temp lol.
So far the Asometech 260W ticks all the requirements along with a V/I/P display for each individual channel, it doesn't support EPR though which should not matter for now. That's probably why the price is where it is at. With retailmenot's 20% cashback (ending tomorrow) for Aliexpress and the available store coupons, the price is just too good to not check it out. Delivery is May 18 though... now the wait begins. 🤞 Will check back here after I get it in. :) Thank you. Cheers - Sam
I feel like the flow of the videos has been getting better and more natural. You’re getting better at this! Disappointing showing from Satechi though, how is this and the 165w adapter by the same manufacturer 😂 Side note: I feel like the PQS site could be shared more prominently on occasion (while not being too in your face), i consume your content fairly regularly but didn’t notice that the PQS rating was its own site vs the other site. Would be a shame if more people missed out on the website and the work done. Just a food for thought!
Thanks! It is great to get some feedback on the videos. Yeah, I don’t push the pqs page much.
You’re absolutely crushing it bro, for one thing you have the equipment to test USB-C PSU’s properly and for another you’re taking all of the mystery out of making these purchases on Amazon which is worth its weight in gold, so how anyone could fail to appreciate your channel is beyond me!
Amazing video, thanks for this!
Glad you liked it!
awesome review man. I was about to buy it and then ran into this video.... The part about high idle power consumption was the deal breaker for me
Glad I could help!
I really enjoy your videos, and they teach me a bit about electronics as well.
Thanks for the support and watching!!!
amazing review as usual
I appreciate that
Best channel... I wish id have found it years ago when he was still active =(
how is this channel doesn't have a 1m subscriber !!??
Haha. If you find out let me know!
I always wondered when someone would create a channel testing the efficiency of these. Thanks again Dr. Juice, I've been leaving positive comments on companies videos to check your channel/website
Hi, hope you doing great! Thanks for your videos btw, these are pretty practical and helps a lot. So I have two questions if you could answer them. My first one is : What is your take about wireless charging on battery health? My second one is : Does the Anker PowerPort III 100W charging brick is a good one for battery health of products? Thank you and take care!
Wireless charging gets hot, that is not good for battery health, the main concern with wireless charging is how inconsistent it is and how inefficient it is. The 'banner' specification is all they show the public, best case this does 80% efficiency, real world 50% (those are just a random numbers not real data), the general principle is why apple shoved giant magnets into everything to get that alignment better. I don't want to be too down on wireless charging though, in a pinch it is very convenient but as a long term charging solution I would stick with the old cable. The device decides how much power to use, so using a 100W charger is fine even on smaller devices as long as the device is designed well. If you shove 100 watts into a phone battery you are certainly doing damage. Laptops generally can handle that pretty easily though.
6:06 “ this shouldn’t have any problems, powering lots of devices - as long as you do it one at a time“, lol
Yeah, I don't even know what I did with this charger. I use the 165W one daily, the 200W one is in a bin lost somewhere. I see eBay in it's future.
Great insight! No 140 shared is a deal breaker. Please mention the new price of the Ugreen 140w in your upcoming vid. I bought it based on your other vid!
Mm yeah. Good point.
Nice vid mate
Too many videos.
Great video, great review. Now ugreen is best p/p with 85$.
Thanks for watching. Yeah sales change the story.
Thanks!
No problem!
Thanks i learned alot from watching your vids. Can you review the Baseus Gan 5 pro if ever plus do you have any recommendation for chagers that has multiple plugs but does not need a 100w
Yeah, I need to check those out. I have one here but it is also a USB hub.
Some of Quality-of-life features hope to see soon for all premium power adaptors.
+ Power delivery 3.1 - Output 100W+ on a port. This is useful for more powerful large laptops like a 15" MacBook Pro to run at full performance.
+ Smart ports - Can allocate appropriate power to each device regardless which port is being used or a "first come first serve."
+ Cable management - Cables can be rolled up into alcoves - third party vendors can make this stuff as well.
Makes all the cables neat and easy to pack and unpack.
*2 BIG FEATURES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE*
1. 160Wh/43,000mh portable battery banks - Airlines/TSA to approve the power limit to one battery bank.
2. Power adaptor and Power bank 2 - in -1 with all the QOL features aforementioned.
One unit to power and charge multiple devices plugged in or on the go.
haha, yeah, I think a lot of people want that. Thanks for sharing the wish list!
Thank you🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Excellent review. I hate the chargers with side ports. I prefer the ones where the ports are on top. We are supposed to plug the cable of a device on top of a charger.
Agree, top ports are more convenient but side ports make chargers look nicer
@@nguyenchien8385 glad you agree with me
Ports on all sides!
OMG. I was about to buy this device based on good reviews of the lower power version. Thanks god I found this video to learn about this turd of a power adapter which seems totally of-brand for Satechi. Power renegotiation when plugging in a new device is a complete no-go, unfortunately it's the cheap way of handling multi-port chargers and most reviewers are not competent enough to even consider looking at that. Thanks a lot for this excellent and extensive test...
Yeah, I have no idea why they missed the boat on this one. I still really like and use daily my 165W charger.
@@AllThingsOnePlace hey do you have any experience with the hypershop 4 port charger? its similar to the satechi 165w but higher wattage
@@atn275 I do not.
Awesome review, I had a huge delve into multiport chargers as I was trying to find one that fit my needs. Could you please review the Hyper 245W GaN Desktop Charger? It's the one I finally landed on since it powers all of my devices (I've got a pretty wide range) including 12V. I'm definitely curious to see what a pro thinks though.
hah, yeah that one has been on the list for a while now. It will get a video at some point.
Nice videos! Can you please do a review of the Greenwave power conditioner which is sold on Amazon for around $30. I am curious how efficient it is and how much it wastes when idle. I use about a dozen of them in my home along with more expensive power conditioners like the EVO Acquarius for eliminating hum and lowering noise in my hifi system.
Yeah, I want to do a video on some power conditioners, I'd probably start with the lower end ones, most are a premade filter box in a box and maybe a few MOV's for transient protection. I need some RF equipment to measure if they actually do anything though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Nice! I look forward to that video. I can say that from an audiophile perspective that these noise filters have greatly enhanced the sound quality in my system and given me black backgrounds in my music. The Greenwave is a good inexpensive start for eliminating line noise and works best when paired in series with another more extensive filter like the EVO Acquarius. I don’t know if there are any health benefits to using them but they do help improve sound quality.
What's the best way to use these adapters for travel? Some include international plugs that can be clipped on but most don't. For those that don't what's the best (most convenient/efficient/smallest, etc.) way to adapt them? What compatibility concerns should I be aware of?
A video on "best travel adapters" and your reasoning around them would be very helpful.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah, the travel adapters video has been in the works for a while. For a 'desktop' style like this one, you swap the lead to the country appropriate one.
Great video, wondering if there is a charger you would recommend. (Doesn’t shut the 140W port off, doesn’t constantly renegotiate.)
I think they all do at some point, with enough devices plugged in. Unless you buy a one port charger. The Anker 240W is probably the closest I've come to a device that might be reliable at the higher power levels though.
Will you be testing various 330 watt gan chargers like the slim q one?
Eventually, I want to do some larger chargers like that. Along with the larger power banks that are popping up everywhere.
Bonjour. Just found you on the UA-cam. Impressive what you do here, though most of it goes over my head. I run a small business and I've just deployed iPads to the six of us at the shop, so I'm in search of a solution to keep our devices charged on a regular basis in an organized manner. I've considered a power strip to accommodate the included Apple 20W power adapters vs a USB C charging hub such as the one here in your review. This Satechi unit seems to be the only option I've found with enough C ports for all of our devices, though I'm aware it did not impress you as much as the 165W 4-Port. I'm curious what you'd recommend in this scenario. I've also considered equipping the staff with portable battery banks as opposed to a central charging station so the devices are not connected to an outlet unattended overnight. Maybe I worry too much. Any advise? Again, impressive channel. A pleasure to subscribe.
Yeah, I think your use case is a prime reason to use this 200W Satechi. The efficiency might be a little lower but it's still going to beat the Apple adapters and you won't be pulling full load from it so from an overnight charge perspective it's not a bad choice. I wouldn't go with a portable battery device, if you think about it, that's adding an unattended battery and a bunch more circuits to the mix so more efficiency losses, more heat generated, and more things to go wrong. So, either going with something like this or using two 100 watt adapters that each have three USB C ports wouldn't be a bad option (that might be cheaper than this one).
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the reply! I’ve been stuck on this for a while, and I’m delighted to take your advice! The Satechi is affordable in this case, but I’ll look for 100W 3 port options, too. Thanks again!!!
Thanks for the review. Somewhat disappointing performance, I was optimistic after your review of the 165w. I’ve been working on switching over to powering my dc devices to using usb c pd, but I’m currently stuck on some 12v devices that draw around 4 amps. Are there any usb c pd chargers that can do over 3 amps at 12 v?
There is a USB PD standard for 5 amps at 5, 9 and 12V, but it is very rare
Yeah, the PPS mode on this adapter if set to 12v would do 5 amps on each port. The PD standard 12v is 3 amps though.
Thank you. I use the Adafruit usb c pd to 12v dc barrel cables, which are supposedly rated for 5 amps which suggests such a thing should be possible, but I’ve never seen anything above 3 amps. I don’t think I could use PPS for this use case, or at least I don’t think these specific cables support that.
do a video projects where u convert devices using barrel plugs (modems, monitors, wifi) to usbc adaptors while using power bricks like theses.
Yeah, I did one of those, I should do some more though.
Thanks for the review. Can you review Satechi 108W with 3 Type-C ports charger?
I have one of them to look at. Looks like there are two types.
@@AllThingsOnePlace 108W with 2 C ports and 2 USB-A ports desktop charger? 108W (and 66W) with 3 C ports are newer.
@@livewtw2559 I have the desktop one. I will put the 108W with 3C ports higher on the to get list though.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I hope it. 108W with 3 C ports is wall charger.
Hi I have a dell precision 7560 laptop that comes with a 180W 19,5V/9,23A charger. I am looking currently for a charger that I could use to charge this laptop as well as my phone / headphones. Is there anything on the market that would be compatible with the laptop? It can be charged with 2x usbC cables as it also has an option to be connected to the docking station and in this case it uses 2x usbc ports.
Also huge thumbs up for the videos that you are creating here - very informative and has helped me in comparing various chargers! Keep up the good work!
That is very interesting it can be charged with two USB C cables. This adapter probably is the one that can do that. With a port to spare to provide slow charging. It'll probably top out at 165W to the laptop with three things plugged in, since one of the 100W ports will drop to 65W, then you get 35W for the other ports to charge a phone and headphones. Obviously, totally untested but I'd be curious if that works.
@@AllThingsOnePlace and what about the other options like slimQ 240w (this one seems an obvious choice) or ugreen nexode 200w?
@@treskil Yeah, they seem like good choices, but I get spooked a bit by the lack of safety listing. They are both good power supplies in terms of performance.
I have a question for you. I have ordered the Wotobeus 240W charger and it works great. The only thing I've noticed is that when it switches voltage on a phone, the devices seem to momentarily lose current for half a second. Usually on these chargers this happens when you plug in a new device. But this one does it while the devices are already plugged in. It might happen 3-4 times during a charge.
My question is that should I be concerned that this could damage my devices' batteries, or is it completely normal and just the way some of these high capacity chargers work? I seem to remember something like that happening in one of your earlier videos. Maybe it's just more complicated for these devices to calibrate themselves properly when using devices with low wattage but this is not really a concern.
Yeah, it is something that happens sometimes. One issue is there is no way to test every power adapter with every device and every cable in a reasonable or cost effective amount of time. If anything, I'm probably the place to go to test devices against power adapters. I still use my 200W Wotobeus to power all of my studio lights. I have never had them turn off once they finishing negotiating (usually 10 or so seconds). It is preferable that it doesn't happen but especially on smaller adapters inevitable. On a 240W charger there should be power budget to charge to laptops and two phones and not renegotiate power at all but it depends how they set things up. I have that adapter so will certainly be investigating when I get around to making the video for that one.
In terms of how it treats your battery and device. Electronics are used to switching on and off so they're probably fine but the fault of suddenly no power then suddenly power is a minor concern. Whenever charging starts it will slowly ramp back up per device requirements, the device decides the charging rate. The stop being abrupt isn't a problem, the device has to be protected for that since it has no idea when a user might pull the cable out. It is more of an annoyance than anything that it starts and stops. I'd check a different port arrangement to see if you get better negotiation. Like I found port 1 and 2 were independent. Then ports 3 causes the other ports to renegotiate.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you so much for the detailed answer. I knew you would deliver. Now I can rest more assure that my phones will not get damaged. Looking forward to your detailed review.
Can you try out the ISDT 200? It's a 200w charging stations with 3 usb c, 1 usb a, and wireless charger that connects to an app to show the power usage and can record a graph of power usage over time. Seems pretty cook
Yeah, I have had it here for a while. I wouldn't download the app... I need to get it on the bench though. The difficult part is hooking it up since most of the ports are low power and it only has one 65W port so getting to 200 watts won't be easy.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I see. There’s also 200X version that does 140W output on one USB C, and it seems like it sustains that even when the other USB C’s are drawing power
@@davidbatbold Yeah, I tried getting that one multiple times from different places. I got the 200 over and over. I wanted to do both in one video.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ah that sucks. Well, I hope you can find out a way to test out the normal 200. Your reviews and tests are great! Keep up the good work
Are operations (like negotiation, port power assignment) on these devices typically governed by a microcontroller? An SOC? An ASIC? Can performance be updated or altered (in theory) via firmware? How come you don't open devices up and check their innards?
I do occasionally. Charger lab (another power adapter focused channel) does great teardowns on a lot of these. It is generally a time constraint also. I've been trying to do one video and one short per week but that is a big ask with a job and all. But yes, plan is to open more of these up. In terms of updates and firmware, these often use an ASIC that has limited programmability. It is usually a shared controller that does both feed back control, controls a power supply and negotiates the USB. The chips have limited communication chip to chip which also explains why they have to renegotiate. I have a bunch of development kits to go over at some point too which is easier since they provide the whole parts list and instructions.
Hi .. have you reviewed or can you review the ISDT power200x? .. thank you 😊
I have it and have for a while.... I tried getting the updated version (with 140W on one port) but they sent me the wrong one multiple times. I wanted to have both but I can do the video on one I guess. It is an interesting device because it does deliver fixed power levels to each port. I am highly doubtful of a safety listing though so should be interesting.
@AllThingsOnePlace Help, I've recently got this adaptor and the USB C port gives a decent electric shock does this mean it's a faulty device?
Potentially, yes. That means the mains leakage is a bit on the high side, enough that you can feel it on the output. It is a test I want to add to the process soon. This adapter doesn't have a way to drain that leakage current except through your body. It may be safe still but may be worth replacing it to get one that hopefully doesn't leak as bad.
Is this only a power supply or can you hook up external SSD also? For data transfer
yes only a power supply
The 4-port one is ungrounded and this one is grounded. Can you explain a bit about the logic that goes into making this decision, and what the practical pros & cons are for the user?
Trying to keep it simple, AC adapters leak current from the mains side to the output side. This current can cause a tingling sensation on non-grounded metal bodied devices like laptops. Every power adapter is a little different. It is something I want to add to my normal testing suite but haven't yet. The basic idea is that a 3 pin device has a ground connection and therefore can deal with some of the leakage current through a path that isn't the user. A 2 pin device will leak through you.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I'm definitely familiar with the tingling. Was just curious if the problem gets bigger with higher-powered adapters, or the safety considerations start to warrant groud more, or if it's just that beyond some power the entire brick is large enough anyways that might as well have some extra pin overhead.
Awesome video dude! I'm really amazed that their newer adapter, is not even as good as their previous one. It makes you think they got different engineers to make this one, who didn't bother looking at how the old one was made. Anything is indeed possible with these Chinese brands, who like to get away with anything, including cloning other people's products. This things energy efficiency is so bad, I could probably boil an egg on it. And the power company will have no love for it either with its high idle consumption. Interesting approach to going all USB-C too. I gotta be honest, looks like the Baseus is gonna mop the decks with this Satechi! I don't want no Satechi in my Sushi.
Yeah, for the price two 100w Baseus adapters will do you better and be a much better value. I am curious if this adapter was just rushed out and they didn't get it quite right in the rush. I know the Anker 100W nano II got updates to support more charging modes after it was released (of course it isn't externally updatable). That'll be the day, my power adapter needs a software update. Anyway, yeah this one isn't bad in the grand scheme but it is bad in comparison with the adapter from the same company. Kind of that same disappointment level as that Anker adapter. It isn't bad compared to a non-safety listed or a lot of lower wattage adapters but it isn't class leading
@@AllThingsOnePlace Could you also test the Satechi 108w and 75w adapters please? The 165w is almost perfect but it would be great to have at least one USB A port for 'past-proofing', the 100w Baseus is also almost perfect but not so great with that built in cable that does not lend itself to traveling. Thanks in advance, your videos are simply on point.
Hi,. can you advise if I can use this adaptor for 220kV plug?
I am assuming 220 volts. In that case yes, I test it at that in the video. 220,000 volts might be a challenge.
Hi, im confused which one should i buy
Satechi 200w or ugreen 200w charger?
Please advise me
Either is reasonable. The satechi supports 140w charging on one port if you need that.
What's a good (portable) device to measure USB-C voltage? Are those small USB-C meters any good?
They are good for a 5% indication of what is happening. Some are better than others. The Power Z one is decent (still only a 1% device) versus the meters I use which are 0.05% or so). But cost scales across performance, $20 gets you 5%, $100 gets you 1%, $500 gets you 0.05%, $1000 gets you 0.01% or better, $10k another digit or two, it keeps going. Of course they all drift and change so calibration is an important part of the process. Having a known value to make sure the reading is as close as possible is important.
@@AllThingsOnePlace OK thanks for the info. I'm NOWHERE near as knowledgeable about these things are you are. Just wanted something to see what wattage and amps are being pulled. Was looking at the $26 option from Pluggable, I think that's more of my speed. 😄😄
@neostephens8980 I really like the FNIRSI-C1 bluetooth with a USB-C connector as the main. Before I used the FNIRSI FNB48 however the main connector is USB-A so you would need to use multiple USB-C cables to test a USB-C device which may introduce extra resistance/variables. It's accurate enough for home use.
Sad... Almost ordered this one. Which adapter to buy to multi device charging? I need at least one 100w-140w port :(
Yeah so as of now there’s not a ton of great options. Really get an adapter that does 140w well then get another adapter for everything else… not a great solution.
@@AllThingsOnePlace for everything else Satechi 165 will good I believe. I can stay with 100w, as I don’t have MacBook which need a lot off power ))
You can try TechnoAmp brand chargers for throttle benchmark❤
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I'm having an issue where attempting to charge an iPhone 15 Pro with port 3 or 4 results in both ports turning off within 10min or so requiring power to be cut to the charger. The other ports work fine. I've already had Satechi replace it and the issue persists. The original unit I had took a while to start charging the iPhone 15 Pro on port 3 or 4. The replacement has no delay but still stops charging the iPhone eventually. The phone has to have a state of charge less than 80% as it appears that 5V charging doesn't cause issues either.
Do you have an iPhone 15 Pro to test with the Satechi 200W on ports 3 and 4?
I don’t have one. It shouldn’t turn off the ports in a 5v mode but yeah sounds like apple has a learning curve with usb c. Hopefully, they didn’t do what Samsung did with PPS, if it uses that mode then anyone’s guess what will work with it. Also if it goes over 3A while asking for 9V then it’s out of spec and the charger will probably shut the port off. I’m not sure satechi can really do anything here either. Hopefully, they have been testing and will update their devices with compatibility.
The odd thing is it's only on ports 3 and 4. The others are fine. Ports 5 and 6 go up to 2.22A, which is even lower than 3A. Ports 1 and 2 are the same 3A. One would think if it was an overcurrent condition then the rest of the ports would trip in similar fashion but they do not. It's like this charger is an amalgam of three different chargers, each with distinct characteristics.
Another wild theory is that the iPhone decides that the charger is actually something to be reverse charged and the charger cuts off the ports. Though in that case the iPhone would not gain 10% or so SOC in the meantime.
I don't have a KM003C so I cannot really dig deeper. My TC66C is somewhat primitive in its abilities.
It's definitely a mystery and I really don't know who is at fault. My Anker and SlimQ chargers have no issue with my iPhone. Though I know that some chargers are more tolerant of out of spec devices than others.
I am in contact with Satechi and they said that they are testing an iPhone 15 Pro with their charger. Will reply with an update if they come back with anything interesting.
On my trips i have 1 work computer that need 65W and one personal laptop also 65W. If i understand this correctly, this charger will give 100W on PD1 and 40W on PD2 if i charge both my computers? Instead of 65W for both. Am i understanding this correctly?
This one can do 100 watt 'available' to each also. Port 1 and Port 2. This should be able to do 65W still on those ports with other devices plugged in. The negotiation is probably not the best though.
i already bought this lol, and i’m coming upon this review now. i really was just planning on using this to charge a bt speaker, a 10000 mAh powerbank, an iphone 15 pro, and an apple watch. do you think it’ll do the job for me or should i return it and buy something else
It will probably be fine for those things, maybe a bit over sized even.
Have you had any issues where your iPhone 15 Pro does not charge or stops charging on ports 3 or 4? Specifically when charging from a nearly dead battery to full?
@@adriftatlas I think someone has a ticket in with Satechi for this power adapter and that scenario. It's apples first USB C in a phone device so it probably is going to have some compatibility issues. Just to throw something out there, maybe try a non- E marked cable? or vice versa of what you are using?
@@AllThingsOnePlace There is something funny about ports 3 to 6. Running an FCP/SCP test using a ChargerLab KM003C results in the tested port being stuck at 5V and the adjacent port in the pair not working anymore. The only way to get it to work again is to pull power. My guess is the iPhone may occasionally do something odd and the charger chip simply crashes.
Interestingly enough, ports 1 and 2 have no issues at all. The KM003C is able to scan them and everything still works.
My guess is that they crammed a decent two port PD 3.1 charger with two subpar two port PD 3.0 chargers into one case. That would explain the inefficiency and poor power distribution.
Likely Satechi was talking about my ticket. They replaced the unit once and today I shipped it back for a refund. It's just not a good product, which is unfortunate as their other stuff is pretty good. I'll probably buy a dedicated PD 3.1 charger for my MBP and a smaller brick for my smaller devices.
I had high hopes for this 200W, but man it’s disappointing. So is the UGREEN the way to go for 200W?
Kind of.. that one lacks a safety listing at all.
The double port outputs using PD1/PD2 and PD5/PD6 still leaves 140W mode (according to the instructions). Granted, that still isn't that great - would be much nicer to have 140W + 60W output. I think this is the first 200W one you've measured with 140W on one port - crossing my fingers that future ones will be better!
I was so hoping that the 200 watt adapters were gonna be good, but I feel like the early adoption of this standard, is leaving much to be desired. Maybe they will get better in a year or too, or when the next standard is released, which will probably be 400w adapters, by then the 200w adapters will be good I'd assume lol. Cause if you think about it, it took many years before they made even good 65w adapters. For the longest time, USB standards were only 14W, I still have an Anker 10-port desktop wall charger, which was rated for 60-watts. I mistakenly thought it was 60-watts per port. Sadly, after testing it, each post was only giving me 14 watts! Which means, with a lot of devices plugged in, it will give me even less!
Yeah, I see that in the instructions now. It resets the port and I think my PD trigger got confused because it does resest still. So, I had to unplug and replug that in to get back to the 140W mode after plugging in a 20W device. Kludgy but I got it work. In terms of the crazy multiport adapter things, yeah, usually low power per port. I have some of those, with crazy claims of course, I need to get on the channel eventually. Safety listings are a long shot on most of those, one does have a fan in it though.
CAN YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE VOLTME 140W PD 3.1 adapter🙏
It's a clone adapter. So, I probably won't do that one for a while. The only real difference is it can do more watts on the second port, otherwise it will perform exactly the same as the other clone 140W adapters.
Mine just arrived this week, and I hoped to task it to power my Dell 7530 via a custom USB-C to 7.4mm cable. I couldn't be more disappointed. The claims about pushing 140W out of the top USB-C port are not even close to reality. With the highest quality 240W/PD3.1 cable I have, the most I could get out of the top port with nothing else plugged in, was 123W. I plugged this into several different devices that take 140W input, and each of them maxed out at 123W, as measured from 3 different in-ilne USB meters. Plugged into my laptop using a high-quality 100W cable, the most it would push was 65W. VERY disappointed. My OTAO 200W charger runs circles around this one. Avoid this model, and do not buy.
The device decides how much to power to use. In general in the review I wasn't particularly impressed with this one either. But for your custom cable are you sure you are negotiating the PD 3.1 EPR mode? If it isn't hitting 28V, which I'm not sure that laptop supports anyway, it won't go to 140W, actually that mode may break your laptop... The OTAO did seem like a pretty good charger when I looked at that one. There are issues with Dell and HP laptops and Satechi adapters, although I've never had any issues others have.
Does it interrupt other ports whenever a device is disconnected or demands less power?
Yes, it does.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thank you for your reply! Is there a charger in the wild that doesn't interrupt other ports with 200w or more?
Do you have a recommendation for an adaptor where I can just charge my iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch and AirPods simultaneously? Not interested in any fast charging my devices.
The Baseus 100W desktop adapter is prime for that use case. Yes, two devices will be on USB A to lightning or watch cables, and two will be on faster charging USB C to lightning cables, or C to C cables, but the Baseus 100W desktop Gan3 adapter is good at that device mix.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks. I will take a look at that. Is there one for my device types that just has usb c ports only?
Debating between the Satechi 165W vs. UGREEN 200W 🤔
Yep. I’d go 165w.
Locally to me pricing and availability of the Ugreen is much better. I got the Ugreen 200W on sale for 85usd equivalent. Can't beat that value!
Hey dude, great videos, please just point at stuff instead of gesturing it forward/back, up down repeatedly 3:20
Dotpoints at the end would be awesome also, lot of tech details to take esp when comparing many models, and for non tech people its hard to juggle which figures are 'bad' bad, and which can be tolerated.
Thanks! Yeah, I'm working on it. The newer videos try to have more indicators and text on screen. Yeah, I also significantly reduced the metrics shown in the videos to try to make it a little more general purpose and less confusing.
Have you found a USBC charging station that will charge Microsoft Surface Pro 9 tablets & Dell laptops that don't cause the low charging message? Just not having any luck unless I use the factory chargers otherwise getting the low charging message on the Windows devices.
I'm not sure on the Microsoft Surface, I found that newer Dell laptops work with most of the higher power USB chargers.
If a person is not worried about efficiency, what about every other aspect. Also, it looks like the review is hooking it up to a machine not trying it thru extended use. Does it get hot, how quick are the charges etc etc.
I agree.
Not having 140W while shared should be unacceptable for such a new device. Guess I don't have a reason to upgrade from the 165W one.
Yep, that’s my conclusion.
would this be worth it at a discount? currently 97$ for black friday
Yeah, that certainly helps.
Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you.
I think I did already on another video.
Do A Deep Review on UGreen 145W Power bank
Thanks for the suggestion. That looks like a good one, big claims.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Also Differentiate it with Anker 140W Power bank
I want to know the best to buy
Disappointing. I had high hopes after that 165W review. I could live with higher idle (I never leave my chargers plugged in) or even with an imperfect PFC, but it's the renegotiation that's the last straw for me here. If I buy a brick with this many outlets it's a given I will use it with multiple devices, otherwise what would be the point - and I have observed that many of my devices don't take too kindly to constant renegotiation; some drop out and need to be cycled manually. I was hoping we'd finally get a charger that would reduce this to a minimum. I guess I'll keep waiting and stick to what I have for the time being.
Yeah, the multiport function on this was very disappointing.
Should I buy It or no
It's not efficient compared with the competition. In general that's how I judge these things so no.
Thanks
hi. where can buy it ?
lots of places.
I want to buy please guide me procedure
I can’t help with that.
why is this in your power bank play list?
That is a good question, fixed.
I’m seeing laptops that require 6.5A at 20V rather than 5A at 28V. Dell’s 12th gen laptops are probably the most common such devices.
So even though this adapter could provide 140W in principle, in practice it will only provide 100W or perhaps 90W to such laptops. And at that wattage Windows complains that the adapter won’t be able to keep up if the computer is at full load.
You got it. Yeah, Dell, and most of the other big players, have a proprietary connection protocol.
2:40 No ? C1+C6=140W+20W
Yeah, I missed that in the manual and for some reason in my testing it didn't want to. I guess I didn't wait long enough for negotiation to function.
This particular one looks like a piece of crap. Are they ordering the adapters from different factories? So strange. Using so much power on idle, unacceptable.
Anyway, just wanted to congratulate for the 10k subs. Way to go!
I am not sure if they did multi-sourcing, very possible though. Thanks! Yay, 10k!
Almost as heavy as a laptop!
Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking.
Total disappointment, I guess we'll have to wait for Anker to make a better power adapter with PFC on 5V.
Yep. Can keep hoping. The 165w satechi has been my new go to in the meantime.
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