I really like this theory, but there is one little hole in it in my opinion. If he knew 001 was the frontman why the hell did he let him go alone with the other two players behind the guards in the end of the season?
I've got this feeling too. There's far too many moments in season 2 where 001 says something and Gi-Hun looks at him as if he knows but is trying to keep a poker face. All moments i could see them throwing together in a big anti-reveal twist montage where Gi-Hun was playing the FM the entire time and even this failed rebellion is part of his plan. Makes sense why they would split the season in two since it means whatever happens next is going to change the status quo of what just happened in the finale, otherwise they wouldn't split it.
Personally, if true, then it was the only way to confirm for sure he was the traitor, because up till then there were plenty of times he could've betrayed them but didnt and actually helped even down to shooting his own men, so the only way to truly prove he was the traitor was to put him in a position where it literally couldnt be ANYONE but him, and by giving him the clip and sending him off with the other two ppl he set the perfect trap with the rebellion. The frontman would obviously never allow the games to be disrupted, he'd never allow Gi-hun to find his office and truly stop the games, so logically unlike all the other games where he could easily just win the games and help the others to not look suspicious, now he has no CHOICE but to drop the facade to regain control from their coup, so by giving him the clip later making him the final key player in stopping the game, the only way he would fail WOULD be if he were indeed the traitor. THATS why he needed to give him the full clip, because he had an easy out to just say he was low on ammo and ran out, but since Gi-hun gave him a full clip theres no way he ran out of ammo and couldnt have killed the few guards they already had the advantage of sneaking up on them to do. So if true, it makes sense why Gi-hun gave him a full clip, because it put the frontman in a position where he COULDNT deny being the traitor and where it could be nobody BUT him since Gi-hun only gave him the extra clip, not the other 2 he was with. But honestly I dont think the Squid Game creator is gonna pull that twist, not cuz hes incapable, but because I dont think he intends for Gi-hun to be that cunning of a character, sure he was pretty smart over these years but its been shown that hes still naive in alot of ways and lets his emotions get the better of him moreso than using his brain. But if he does do this twist, then it'd make his friend getting shot because of his plan even more heart wrenching in that scene because Gi-hun knows he caused it, he didnt mean to, but he knows its his fault. He probably didnt anticipate the frontman would kill his friend as punishment and instead punish him himself since hes the one who instigated the rebellion.
@@RavenAveiragi hunn was NEVER smart guy.. he was a trash player that got extremely lucky thats all thats it. gi hunn didnt save anybidy this season..matter of fact he led ppl on a suicide mission
@@animatedsunday6481 You lowkey were not paying any attention to squid game It's not that Gi-hun wasn't smart, and while *yes* for the 2019 games for some of them he got more lucky than others, (since that IS their purpose, like glass bridge) It's more-so his faith in humanity. That's literally his character role. Gi-hun is a smart protagonist, he's just clumsy because he trusts and believes in people, and also add the fact he is in life-threatening scenarios. what gi-hun did at the end of this season, while unsuccessful, probably made a path for the other players to continue in season 3, which I'm guess number 11 while likely appear to finish the job. Gi-hun isn't a one-dimensional character who is just dumb and lucky, he's someone who believes in people which directly goes against the frontman's ideals
Much of this is a pretty big stretch, and even if Gi-Hun was slightly suspicious he doesn't know. Gi-Hun is barely competent, but even he would not equip 001 with a gun and no oversight as part of his rebel band with the knowledge that he'll be a traitor.
Gi-Hun cares more about his revenge then he does the lives of the other contestants. If Gi-Hun is playing a long game against the FM knowing full well who he is he has to keep the charade up and play stupid even if it means sacrificing the advantage and putting 001 is the perfect position to betray them. He proved in the finale that he was willing to let people die to achieve his goal. Pretty funny how many people take Squid Game at face value and are shocked by the twists when they're quite obvious if you actually think about the story as a whole.
Well, I still don’t think he knows. In the end, Gi-hun chose Jung-bae to go to the control room and left Young-il there. That move was a fatal mistake whether he wanted to “befriend” or “eliminate” Young-il. It was like turning back at the finish line. That only makes sense if Gi-hun didn’t see that the “finish line” aka Frontman was right in front of him.
I was thinking about this too. But Gi Hun can’t reveal what he knows. He has to go along with the rebellion until he knows for sure. I like the subtle details in the show that highlights Gi hun’ s suspicion.
The Frontman was clearly shown listening to the stories Gi Hun was talking about one night, from his bed, with eyes open. The camera zooms in on him as well. The Frontman must have heard his name from other times the season doesn't show. They can't show you every part of everything that happens, because that would be unrealistically way too long for any season. So I can't jump on board with that justification. If anything, I'm on the fence at best with the frontman not hearing Gi Hun's name.
I liked the theory! Yeah it's still strange why Gi-hun let the frontman have a weapon and participate in the rebellion, but the only way to stop the frontman from doing so would be killing him, which doesn't sound very easy. Even if he tried to shoot the frontman from behind in the middle of the rebellion, his friends could see it and get hostile towards him / give an opening to the guards. During the rebellion, Gi-hun also specifically called his friend to go as his double instead of the frontman, and the show does make sure to highlight this, by making his friend ask why he didn't call the frontman instead. But I wonder what Gi-hun will do now, as the frontman is not playing anymore - he lost his last advantage.
I don't see anyone talking about this much. But there is a theory - what if Gi-Hun made a pact with 011 before joining the game. Before Gi-Hun goes to the island we see a small "encounter" between him and 011 in the hallway and she looks back at him. Why did the director show us that? Just to show that she knows him? But a lot of the workers from previous games probably know him, it's not a big deal. To show that she has been in the games before? There are other ways to do it, like when she talks to the square and he says that they have known each other for years. I feel like they focus on her a lot, but what is her importance to the plot? Just to help the little girl's father? Or is there something more? She sabotages the organ harvesting and from her conversation with the square it seems like she is starting to get disillusioned with the system. Maybe she contacted Gi-Hun before joining the game and they made an additional plan.
Nice theory. I don't know if viewers have just become incredibly stupid now but it's crazy how many people are taking events at face value and don't think there's going to be a few twists later on.
Regarding the frontman knowing the name, the excuse still works because: a) he couldve been close and heard the name while gi hun is not focusing on how many people are listening And b) there are many other moments out of screen when his friend couldve called him gi hun
I like the theory but it feels like a stretch based on the fact that we know all along who the player 001 really is, inferring that Gi-hun could have guessed too and put on a double role. The idea is very appealing but there's no concrete evidence of this, only looks and faces that can be heavily and differently interpreted. We have no inside insight of what Gi-hun really thinks about player 001.
I think Gi Hun fell for the 001 scheme a second time because he trusted the frontman with a weapon and never told anyone he trusts to keep an eye on the frontman. Way too much trust with such a high cost as everything was on the line at the end of the season. I don't buy the whole Gi Hun was playing the frontman explanation because "fool me once ..." does in fact turn into "I got fooled twice" in many real life cases where people "should" have known, but still fell for the same thing.
Sure, it looks valid with all that edites scenes, but I think it was on purpose to make viewers root for Gi hun to realize Young Ill's real identity. Once Gin hun gives him the extra ammunition it's over. Also when he screems to the walkie talkie - shows he has no idea who Young Ill really is. So unfortunatelly I don't think he has any clue.
@ just a theory but he maybe knew it was a possible necessary sacrifice - just think back to when he throws the sand then goes ‘..called him inspector general’ that was tough
I really like this theory, but there is one little hole in it in my opinion. If he knew 001 was the frontman why the hell did he let him go alone with the other two players behind the guards in the end of the season?
have to make sacrifices sometimes to keep the element of surprise
I agree, but they were also 2 unknown/unnamed players so they were goners anyway
so gi hunn get to chose who to sacrifice. and not sacrifice. gi hunn he is a hypocrite and an idiot@@DB-zp9un
I've got this feeling too. There's far too many moments in season 2 where 001 says something and Gi-Hun looks at him as if he knows but is trying to keep a poker face. All moments i could see them throwing together in a big anti-reveal twist montage where Gi-Hun was playing the FM the entire time and even this failed rebellion is part of his plan. Makes sense why they would split the season in two since it means whatever happens next is going to change the status quo of what just happened in the finale, otherwise they wouldn't split it.
If gi hun was suspicious of 001, why would he insist on giving him the extra ammo at the end?
Personally, if true, then it was the only way to confirm for sure he was the traitor, because up till then there were plenty of times he could've betrayed them but didnt and actually helped even down to shooting his own men, so the only way to truly prove he was the traitor was to put him in a position where it literally couldnt be ANYONE but him, and by giving him the clip and sending him off with the other two ppl he set the perfect trap with the rebellion.
The frontman would obviously never allow the games to be disrupted, he'd never allow Gi-hun to find his office and truly stop the games, so logically unlike all the other games where he could easily just win the games and help the others to not look suspicious, now he has no CHOICE but to drop the facade to regain control from their coup, so by giving him the clip later making him the final key player in stopping the game, the only way he would fail WOULD be if he were indeed the traitor.
THATS why he needed to give him the full clip, because he had an easy out to just say he was low on ammo and ran out, but since Gi-hun gave him a full clip theres no way he ran out of ammo and couldnt have killed the few guards they already had the advantage of sneaking up on them to do. So if true, it makes sense why Gi-hun gave him a full clip, because it put the frontman in a position where he COULDNT deny being the traitor and where it could be nobody BUT him since Gi-hun only gave him the extra clip, not the other 2 he was with.
But honestly I dont think the Squid Game creator is gonna pull that twist, not cuz hes incapable, but because I dont think he intends for Gi-hun to be that cunning of a character, sure he was pretty smart over these years but its been shown that hes still naive in alot of ways and lets his emotions get the better of him moreso than using his brain. But if he does do this twist, then it'd make his friend getting shot because of his plan even more heart wrenching in that scene because Gi-hun knows he caused it, he didnt mean to, but he knows its his fault. He probably didnt anticipate the frontman would kill his friend as punishment and instead punish him himself since hes the one who instigated the rebellion.
@@RavenAveiragi hunn was NEVER smart guy..
he was a trash player that got extremely lucky thats all thats it.
gi hunn didnt save anybidy this season..matter of fact he led ppl on a suicide mission
@@animatedsunday6481 You lowkey were not paying any attention to squid game
It's not that Gi-hun wasn't smart, and while *yes* for the 2019 games for some of them he got more lucky than others, (since that IS their purpose, like glass bridge)
It's more-so his faith in humanity. That's literally his character role. Gi-hun is a smart protagonist, he's just clumsy because he trusts and believes in people, and also add the fact he is in life-threatening scenarios.
what gi-hun did at the end of this season, while unsuccessful, probably made a path for the other players to continue in season 3, which I'm guess number 11 while likely appear to finish the job.
Gi-hun isn't a one-dimensional character who is just dumb and lucky, he's someone who believes in people which directly goes against the frontman's ideals
Much of this is a pretty big stretch, and even if Gi-Hun was slightly suspicious he doesn't know.
Gi-Hun is barely competent, but even he would not equip 001 with a gun and no oversight as part of his rebel band with the knowledge that he'll be a traitor.
Gi-Hun cares more about his revenge then he does the lives of the other contestants. If Gi-Hun is playing a long game against the FM knowing full well who he is he has to keep the charade up and play stupid even if it means sacrificing the advantage and putting 001 is the perfect position to betray them. He proved in the finale that he was willing to let people die to achieve his goal. Pretty funny how many people take Squid Game at face value and are shocked by the twists when they're quite obvious if you actually think about the story as a whole.
Well, I still don’t think he knows. In the end, Gi-hun chose Jung-bae to go to the control room and left Young-il there. That move was a fatal mistake whether he wanted to “befriend” or “eliminate” Young-il. It was like turning back at the finish line. That only makes sense if Gi-hun didn’t see that the “finish line” aka Frontman was right in front of him.
I think Gi-Hun could have been suspicious of 001, but he didn't know for sure.
I was thinking about this too. But Gi Hun can’t reveal what he knows. He has to go along with the rebellion until he knows for sure. I like the subtle details in the show that highlights Gi hun’ s suspicion.
nah, i still can feel gi-hun naiveness through and through the whole season. still the same old naive gi-hun. Will he change? who knows.
trash Gi hunn
The Frontman was clearly shown listening to the stories Gi Hun was talking about one night, from his bed, with eyes open. The camera zooms in on him as well. The Frontman must have heard his name from other times the season doesn't show. They can't show you every part of everything that happens, because that would be unrealistically way too long for any season. So I can't jump on board with that justification. If anything, I'm on the fence at best with the frontman not hearing Gi Hun's name.
I liked the theory! Yeah it's still strange why Gi-hun let the frontman have a weapon and participate in the rebellion, but the only way to stop the frontman from doing so would be killing him, which doesn't sound very easy. Even if he tried to shoot the frontman from behind in the middle of the rebellion, his friends could see it and get hostile towards him / give an opening to the guards. During the rebellion, Gi-hun also specifically called his friend to go as his double instead of the frontman, and the show does make sure to highlight this, by making his friend ask why he didn't call the frontman instead.
But I wonder what Gi-hun will do now, as the frontman is not playing anymore - he lost his last advantage.
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I don't see anyone talking about this much. But there is a theory - what if Gi-Hun made a pact with 011 before joining the game. Before Gi-Hun goes to the island we see a small "encounter" between him and 011 in the hallway and she looks back at him. Why did the director show us that? Just to show that she knows him? But a lot of the workers from previous games probably know him, it's not a big deal. To show that she has been in the games before? There are other ways to do it, like when she talks to the square and he says that they have known each other for years. I feel like they focus on her a lot, but what is her importance to the plot? Just to help the little girl's father? Or is there something more? She sabotages the organ harvesting and from her conversation with the square it seems like she is starting to get disillusioned with the system. Maybe she contacted Gi-Hun before joining the game and they made an additional plan.
Nice theory. I don't know if viewers have just become incredibly stupid now but it's crazy how many people are taking events at face value and don't think there's going to be a few twists later on.
Regarding the frontman knowing the name, the excuse still works because: a) he couldve been close and heard the name while gi hun is not focusing on how many people are listening
And b) there are many other moments out of screen when his friend couldve called him gi hun
i like the theory but i feel like gi-hun probably thinks he's just a V.I.P
I like the theory but it feels like a stretch based on the fact that we know all along who the player 001 really is, inferring that Gi-hun could have guessed too and put on a double role. The idea is very appealing but there's no concrete evidence of this, only looks and faces that can be heavily and differently interpreted. We have no inside insight of what Gi-hun really thinks about player 001.
I think he knew but thought he had won the front man over to his side
I think Gi Hun fell for the 001 scheme a second time because he trusted the frontman with a weapon and never told anyone he trusts to keep an eye on the frontman. Way too much trust with such a high cost as everything was on the line at the end of the season. I don't buy the whole Gi Hun was playing the frontman explanation because "fool me once ..." does in fact turn into "I got fooled twice" in many real life cases where people "should" have known, but still fell for the same thing.
I don't buy it because of the ammo, but even if I did, this all just suggests he's a traitor/plant, not that he's literally the Frontman.
Gi hun also chose 390 to follow😊 him instead of the frontman
I doubt that the writer would make it this way, I think 456 is still fooled by 001
Sure, it looks valid with all that edites scenes, but I think it was on purpose to make viewers root for Gi hun to realize Young Ill's real identity. Once Gin hun gives him the extra ammunition it's over. Also when he screems to the walkie talkie - shows he has no idea who Young Ill really is. So unfortunatelly I don't think he has any clue.
I like the theory - I think at the very least he will suspect at the start of third season .. he is smarter than he looks ..
not smart enough to cause of death of his best friends and others
@ just a theory but he maybe knew it was a possible necessary sacrifice - just think back to when he throws the sand then goes ‘..called him inspector general’ that was tough
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the constant use of 'zero zero one' is buggging meeeeuhhh
That.. no.
Good vid but i really don’t think it’s possible
People are just stupid always someone defends them like this video giving excuses for GiHun 😂
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