Apollo 8 Astronaut Colonel Frank Borman flies the P-63 Kingcobra
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Thunder Across the Valley Air Show 1998
National Warplane Museum-Elmira Corning Regional Airport
Apollo 8 Astronaut Colonel Frank Borman
Bell P-63 Kingcobra
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My dad worked for borman autoplex. I’d go out to the airfield and hangout with borman regularly. He was just another guy to me. Knowing what I know now I feel a little more privileged I got to hear stories and get to sit in his many many planes. It was a kids paradise
As a regional airline pilot back in 1988, I got to fly Col. Borman from ABQ down to Las Cruces, NM. He sat right behind the cockpit and autographed my flight manifest and I still have it today.
Will never forget Frank's reading of Genesis while skimming over the moon in '68.
Amen 🌝
I remember that, wow.
Totally inapproriate to involve his personal religious beliefs into the space program and a worldwide televised event.
Just shows you it doesn’t matter how smart you are you can still believe in absolute nonsense.
Seminal moment in our young lives.
One of the greatest aviators...ever. I have several items signed by Frank, but he is one of the few Apollo astronauts I have not met. “and from the crew of Apollo 8, we close with good night, good luck, Merry Christmas, and God bless all of you-all of you on the good Earth.”
Frank Borman is 'the guy'. Concise, humble, down to earth, and never hesitant to give credit where credit is due.
Glad to see Frank Borman has a stake in a warbird!!
A great person, that last comment about the teamwork needed to get to the moon is a testament to this gentleman's character.
I shuffled paper in "documentation management", still proud of my small part on Apollo/Saturn program. Got astronaut "Snoopy Award" from Apollo 9 crew.
Was able to meet him with my son at a small air show in Minnesota. A real gentleman.
I watched his every move when he was an astronaut. I'll never forget Apollo 8. He played a MAJOR role in getting Neil Armstrong on the moon.
Col.Frank Borman pinned my wings on in 1976 after graduating F/A training for EasternAirlines I flew until 1989, after he sold us out to Frank Lorenzo, the devil.😱
March 14, 1928 to November 7, 2023. What a life to remember. Rest in Peace Colonel Borman.
He said there were three P-63s in this country. Now only two.
R.I.P. the crews of Wings over Dallas tragedy. 😢
Great stuff, I saw his crewmate on Apollo 8, William "Bill" Anders here in Bergen, Norway during our 50th anniversary airshow at our international airport in 2005. He flew a P-51D Mustang painted as Clarence E. "Bud" Anderson's "Old Crow" that he (Anderson) flew in WW2. It was awesome. I've been a space-buff since 1995 when I saw the movie Apollo 13 at the local cinema, I was only 6 years old at the time.
Bill Anders was also the US Ambassador to Norway in the 70s I believe, and another astronaut, Harrison "Jack" Schmitt studied at the University of Oslo years before he joined the astronaut corps at NASA, he was the Lunar Module Pilot on Apollo 17, the last flight to the moon in December, 1972.
Thanks for sharing this with us!
Col. Borman was a childhood hero of mine. Got to see and speak to him at Reno when he owned a Mustang.
Makes me think of his time at Eastern Airlines. I had an Uncle who was in B-17s (Flight Engineer) during the war and then worked at Eastern until retirement under Borman.
Norman killed eastern. While he had many accomplishments he was a poor ceo
Col. Borman is definitely a class act!
You said it, Colonel Borman! Thank you for your service to this country. I only wish I could personally thank the 399,999 others who contributed to the Apollo program's success. Please pass it along sir. 😉🇺🇸
Such a gentleman and accomplished more in his life than I'll ever know. He gave me and other pilots a tour of his office/hangar in southern NM at a fly-in. The artifacts alone are simply stunning. He was a judge for the fly-in (Van's RV series of kit airplanes). He gave mine a big thumbs up. Made my year!
Love listening to Frank explaining stuff !. My kind of guy !!
Watched one in 96 at one of the Duxford air shows. Absolutely glorious sound!
Seems like a genuine guy, glad he owns this airplane; I'd imagine it'll fly for many years to come.
You are most correct Frank.. the P63 did not see combat with USA but the P39 did, many people confuse the two as the same aircraft. Anyway- you have been a huge Hero of mine. Thanks for your service to country and being a positive roll model!
I am sooo thankful for your comment, sir! I am/was one of those of whom you spoke that confused the two aircraft and would have commented accordingly, had I not read your comment. Far be it from me to have even thought of contradicting Full Bird Borman, but naïvely I thought he might actually be mistaken, truly thinking they’d seen USA combat in the Pacific Theater. However, thanks to your post, I realized it was indeed the P-39 that actually had…darn those 1940’s mid engine U.S. fighter planes! ;) I did also recall that those who had used it in combat, did NOT speak too highly of it. Borman is indeed an incredible individual and I’m glad I did not mistakenly besmirch him and make a fool of myself thanks to you so ,THANKS again my friend…
What Runway is your ILSRwy4? Thanks
Watch any old nasa films with frank in it. He was always ALL BUSINESS. Impressive
Crazy that this video has such low hits. Not often you get to see the best of the best still active in aviation and making himself accessible to the public. What a treat and definitely going to be a favorite.
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I couldn't believe it as I watched, I'd found such a gem. Wonderful film. Couldn't agree more.
Very humble man.
Did you have shares in Eastern?
Update: the commenter I replied to has since deleted.
I just found this video, yes, Frank Borman is a great guy, my Dad had the pleasure of meeting the all three of the Apollo 8 Astronauts, he showed me a signed photo from them, but after my Dad passed away, it was nowhere to be found. These guys were the best, the Russians didn't have a chance, they continue to operate very dangerously, our Astronauts dislike riding their spacecraft to the Space Station very much.
Somewhere I have Frank's signature. He was the second uncle or something like that to a friend. I always treasured that. The guy had been an Apollo astronaut. For me, that was everything.
Favorite Apollo crew was Apollo 8 with Frank Borman James Lovell William Anders. Good to see him flying again thanks for sharing the video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Along with its elder sibling, still one of the most beautiful *looking* piston engined fighters aircraft ever made.
The Blytonian , Pound for pound this little Plane is the best. I think when they 1st debuted. Pilots had no idea what this plane was capable of doing. Put your mind to it. Blow a Zero slap out of the sky. Russians said we don't need anything but the P 39
@@davidvance6367 Chuck Yeager loved the P39!
And to the Russian pilots who flew it in WW2, the best fighter there is.
Watched PBS NOVA, about the Apollo 8 mission, his one quote about the importance& urgency.
" We weren't Candy Asses"
A winning mindset.
good interview, the pilots of EAL really believed he was going to run an airline only to be sold down the river to Lorenzo. My father had just upgraded on the -9 only to end up on strike at age 51, and never fly commercially again. thanks Frank. Part of a legacy of a lack of interest in being an airline pilot now. Frank owns a piece of that.
Still with us, praise God.
Growing up in NW Indiana, he was a hometown hero. They named the stretch of I-80 that runs through Lake County the Borman Expressway.
Apollo 8 is one of me earliest memories - I was 4 years old.
Beautiful airplane Frank. Thanks for keeping her flying.
Thanks Frank. I'll never frget you guys till my dying breath.
Frank Borman was America's "aviation version" of Steve McQueen.... totally cool, totally professional and a naturally commanding presence and charisma. He has left us now of course, but what an incredible and well-lived life. 👏
I remember watching Apollo 8 on a black and white TV when I was 5 years old.
Frank was always one of my top American men of Apollo. Thank you, Col Borman !
What a legend. Great hearing him talk shop
The "Right Stuff" is written all over Frank Borman, quite a man.
A national treasure and a credit to the human race.
hello race is not human, is colors ,yellow, white, blue, black, red, brown, republican, democrat, right, left, ECT according to the BBC, NPR and you probably identified you self AMERICAN colonial.saludos
@@pavelavietor1 ...and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we still have racism. Congratulations, dipshit.
@@pavelavietor1 Your use of language is quite interesting.
@@leoarc1061 hello my dream is to be a great writer, it elude me, but, I will continue trying to learn and transfer learning to others. Go and be a great writer, thanks so much for you elegant comments. Saludos Leo Arc strong name you have
I met him at Chino when he was having his p-51 built also at square one aviation named after his wife. I was working with Enrico on a beach 18 siera Charlie. Super nice man. Very approachable.
that plane sounds absolutely amazing
Shemp , Sounds like a Jet
I was born in 1957 and I remember this plane advanced airport North East quadrant of the airport clay lacy every aviation and skyhawks flying club right in front as a 5 year old and a 10 year old and a 15 year old I always wondered whatever became of this plane now I found it So happy to see it alive
Gary, Pete Cunha here. My Dad and yours were good friends in the Skyhawks Flying Club days. I too remember that plane. As a young airport rat I spent many hours around it, often with a screwdriver replacing inspection panels, cleaning it up and trying to reverse the effects of weather and vandalism. Those were the days! Would like to hear from you sometime. 😎
This plane is at Legacy Flight museum in Rexburg, ID now. Small museum but nice assortment of planes and good people.
Frank Borman, GOOD GUY!!!
Frank Borman, GOOD BYE!!!
Bull. He is instrumental in destroying Eastern airlines along with 40k people who worked there.
A great little piece of video, especially if you have any interest in the Bell P-63. Which I believe was an underrated aircraft.
I remember as a kid being riveted to the news reports that Christmas in 1968 when, Anders, Borman and Lovell made the first manned flight out of earth's orbit and round the moon. It was Frank I believe that took that superb picture "Earthrise".
Brad Brassman I was a bit older than you when Apollo 8 gave us the best Xmas present of all time. I was working on Groote Eylandt in the Gulf Of Carpentaria, Northern Australia. In those day, our only direct link to the world was shortwave radio and so we had to rely on the commercial flights in from Darwin and Mount Isa for the news on paper. So I knew that Apollo 8 was going to the Moon and while the mission was on, I was the first one into the store for the paper and relevant magazines after each flight had arrived.
For a space fan, it was the best Xmas present ever. Seven months later, I had left the island and was back in the family home in Dunedin - not the Dunedin in Florida - and my father and I sat up after midnight and listened on the radio to the launch of Apollo 11. Back then, there were none of the high-capacity TV satellites that we take for granted today, so our coverage of overseas events was by radio.
Apollo was an amazing time, when anything seemed possible. It gave my generation a moment in history that will never be forgotten and I will always count myself fortunate to have witnessed it.
Great story, thanks for sharing.
Brad Brassman - Bill Anders took the iconic “Earthrise” photo.
After being one of the first humans to fly around the GD moon, how can you get a thrill out of anything else? I wish I could be as vital as Frank at his age. American hero.
Thanks Frank!!
I was at this Air Show, and remember this airplane. 20 years ago, now, plus or minus a few weeks. I wish I could say I had the honor of shaking Col. Boreman's hand, but the line to meet him was of course quite long, and young as I was, I didn't really want to stand in it. Missed opportunity.
Great video! I have seen Frank speak at EAA AirVenture a few times, always an enjoyable experience.
Such a beautiful, classic warbird...
That is SO COOL! I've always loved the P-39 and P-63 even though I'm a die-hard Mustang fan. I'd love to see some modern-day HD camera mounted on this beautiful fighter and have it put through its paces.
When I was a kid, this was my favorite WW2 fighter aircraft!
As it just happens, I was also a huge fan a Frank Borman too.
Cool too see these two things come together!
Greetings from Sweden!!!!
Legend. One of my favorite personalities and astronauts.
Nice! Two irreplaceable American treasures.
It was probably made in Buffalo, my hometown in Western New York, flown by one of our heroes, so our course this was a great treat for me.
Thomas Bernecky
Absolutely definitely was built in Buffalo, NY.
Fabulous! Marvelous footage and fascinating presentation by Col. Frank Borman. Thank-you for posting this.
Now we've got...P-63 obssession!!!!! 😲 Enough already!!!!
Sweet aircraft! I've always loved the P39/63's and would be the luckiest man on earth to own one! The rear engine that allowed the canon to fire thru the hub of the propeller also changed the center of gravity. The first American aircraft I'm aware of that had swept wings was a P39 modified by the navy. As the engine was behind the pilot it made it much easier to maintain the center of gravity for the experiment. It's also the way all modern jets are set up today!
Borman is a true hero.
Borman is a true buttfuck.
Yep.., he is..! And freaking jerk..!
@@engvaryergin7370 Yes, we get it. You don't like Borman, but you haven't actually said why. You've said it twice now, so can you give it a rest?
Godspeed
-merfthewise Frank "Be a kid as often as you can" Borman.
Safe pair of hand.sthat.s frank very nice vid
God bless you Frank Borman.. I'm impressed.. I always thought you were hot stuff but this puts you over the top.
That's a nice touchdown, Colonel! Love the P63...Used to watch one race at Reno. I wish he'd have talked a little about the flight characteristics of the bird.
Was that p63 tipsy miss?
@@ronjohnson9507 indeed it was!
@@P51 my dad was on the maintenance crew for tipsy miss for 2 years
Awesome... and Ihave just got a book about the Apollo 8 mission.. thanks👍
Wow the real deal there, Col Frank Borman 👍🏻😎
Frank forgot the Bell P-39 Airacobra . She had a tricycle gear too .
I have incredible respect for these men . A tough bunch . Tough and thankful Americans .
The P-61 did also as well as some bombers.
Dan Zervos
He was referring to fighters but thank you for reminding me.
Dornier Do 335 Pfeil
Love this plane
Interesting to listen. He's the real deal. I wonder what his take would be on the accident that just happened in Dallas? Thank you to him for all his work in support of our country.
He seems like a very nice man.
These men were the heroes of my childhood.
Love that plane so gorgeous I have a radio controlled P39 lotta fun
The Olds 37 was hampered slightly by relatively low velocity and resultant rainbow trajectory, also only held 30 rounds, but if it hit something could do considerable damage.
The cannon was designed relatively light weight in deference to the platforms modest lifting capabilities.She was a forerunner to the A10 Thunderbolt II.
My 72 Chevy Nova was made at Van Nuys California G. M. Plant.
The 37mm was NOT used for dedicated Air-to-Ground attack, it was made with HE round for Air-to-Air use and was used for that by the soviets as well as the French. Though the Standard M54 HE round would be usefull against soft skinned vehicles.
www.p63kingcobra.com/m4_37mm_auto_cannon.html
M80 AP was not sent to to USSR
www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/ref/LL-Ship/LL-Ship-3C.html
God Bless...
A hero and a cool plane.
Looks Brand New like what they did inside the Cockpit with Upgrades Very Tastefully Done. To bad there's only a few still around Nice Looking plane very similar P51
The P-61 that I flew was a target aircraft with armer plate and was used to train gunners to shot at attaching aircraft. The gunners were firing plastic amunition at the attaching P- 61. The aircraft was not a nice airplane to fly in the attaching aircraft configuration.
It's just sad that its gone now..
it is in an Idaho musuem.
Esse avião e o mais belo que já vi parabens.
He's a great presenter.
Go get em' Tiger,,
today you own the sky!
Listening to Colonel Borman you hear the Spirit of America .
Today's generation listen's to a self proclaimed Socialist named Bernie Sanders .
My God is this country in trouble .
Thank you Colonel Borman . You and Pete Conrad , Shepard , Young , Cernan , and all the others on Mercury , Gemini and in Apollo got me into the cockpit .
I have the greatest respect for you men , thank you .
+You know it pal, they were cut from the finest American cloth.
History maker.
Best Airshow in the country. Geneseo, N.Y. ADC (RET) Chili native.
Very interesting indeed 👍
he is wrong about the 37 mm gun it was NOT used against tanks though I am sure that anything less than a tank would have really been unhappy after being hit by it. The gun didn't have the velocity necessary for anti- armour work. the projectiles coming out in the low 2000 feet/sec while you'd need in the upper 2000's plus Tungsten core rounds just to start to knock out tanks.
First pilot of the Saturn V moon rocket.
"There are three of these still flying here [in the US]."
Make that two :(
The fact that the 63 has its motor mid fuselage and a large 4 blade prop connected by a driveshaft leads me to think the 63 had an obstinate turning problem due to torque of the motor, shaft and prop. The gyroscopic effect resistance to turn may have been the reason for loss of control and hitting the B-17 near Dallas in Nov 2022
I don't know the accident looked more like bad planning, lack of awareness, dangerous maneuvers etc.
sharp as a razor - what a Gent -
The second most famous Gary Indiana native. (Michael Jackson) I drive down the Borman expressway almost daily.
He mentioned that besides the P-63, The only other WW2 fighter with tricycle landing gear was the P-38. Of course the predecessor of the P-63, the P-39 also had tricycle gear. And, although it saw little WW2 use, the F7F also had tricycle gear.
Of course he was speaking of Allied Aircraft but the Germans had the Do-335 and the Me-262; the Japanese had the J7W and the J9Y which saw action.
Those were operational aircraft; both sides had a number of experimental planes with tricycle gear - the XP-54, XP-55, P.30, HE-280, HE-162, MXY-7 and several other one-offs.
yep but the first Me 262 was a tail draggers, was switched to tricycle because this reduce considerably the take of distance, but the nose gear from the me 262 stayed weak because lack of place to made it stronger
With all its improvements, the P-63 was supposed to be the great fighter that the P-39 never was. But I've always wondered, was it a good dogfighter?
When he mentioned the tri-cycle landing gear he mentioned the P-38 as the only other, but there was the P-39 and the P-62 .
Me-262 was also a fighter w/tricycle landing gear.
Just a side thought: with that cockpit door arrangement, I wonder how many pilots successfully baled out of one of those aircraft.
The same question actually applies to the early model Hawker Typhoons, which also had a door.
As did the P-38... except it was even worse because of its tail. Heard on videos from pilots that flew the P-38 that most would start to invert the plane if possible and simply fall out and slide across the wing as it rolled over. And the P-38 pilots had to or that huge tail would break their back or neck!!!! Those men... in any theater or service... had balls of steel. The best of men... the worst of times.
P-39's horizontal stabilizer would often hit a bailing out pilot unless he grouped up and raised his legs to the chest. This actually happened to 2 soviet aces from the same regiment where Pokryshkin served. Theirs surnames are Iskrin and Glinka (one of Glinka brothers fighting in 9th GIAD, both were aces).
I hope the next guy who owns this aircraft can show it as much if not more than Frank. I k ow I would make every effort!
December 24th, 1968.
American Hero!
I'd love to see how the cannon was mounted through the center of the nose. I had assumed the propeller was, more or less, connected directly to the engine's drive shaft. But if the engine was behind the pilot and a canon running through the nose, how was this reconciled? Interesting engineering.
Drive shaft went under the cannon and connected to a linkage to the prop, I'll see if I can find a good cross section
www.thisdayinaviation.com/1-september-1946/ There you go there's a cross section and a picture of the engine and linkage by themselves
Wow, very interesting. Thank you.
kev3d No problem
goo.gl/images/FK7uFk cool view. The 37mm T-9 cannon was built by several companies including Oldsmobile.
Borman is about 70 at this time.