Full versus flat bond price (aka, cash vs. quoted or dirty vs. clean price, FRM T3-23)

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  • @maddoglord
    @maddoglord 6 років тому +1

    You the man harpdog, very easy to absorb.

    • @bionicturtle
      @bionicturtle  6 років тому

      Thank you for watching! Glad to hear that this was helpful!

  • @krisnaydenov
    @krisnaydenov 6 років тому

    Thanks David for all your videos! That was in the today's exam of Part 1 Nov 2018!

  • @shadrinan90
    @shadrinan90 2 роки тому

    Thank you for a good graph as an example

  • @nncc5986
    @nncc5986 Рік тому +1

    thanks a lot!

  • @diontaedaughtry974
    @diontaedaughtry974 5 років тому

    Thank you this was very helpful and informative 👍👍

  • @isp_accountinganalysisanda3721
    @isp_accountinganalysisanda3721 3 роки тому

    Thanks David! 🤝

  • @Johnny2tc
    @Johnny2tc 2 роки тому

    @bionicturtle
    Hi there, thanks so much for the great content. I noticed that you calculated accrued interest using a compound interest formula. Upon reading my Bond Math textbook, they calculate the accrued interest using a simple interest formula. Both methods provide the same answer after rounding. Which method is technically correct?
    I know the bonds use compound interest calculations but since the interest is not compounded as the accrued interest occurs inbetween coupon payments, shouldn't a simple interest calculation be used?
    Thanks

    • @bionicturtle
      @bionicturtle  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks. Actually I follow the convention and compute the AI with simple interest per AI = 4.0% * 90/180 = $2.00. I think you are referring to my step where I retrieve the full (aka, cash, invoice, dirty) price as of 4/1/2018 which is exactly halfway in between coupons: 105.46*(1 + 7.0% yield/2)^(90/180) = 107.29. That calculation does employ semi-annual compound frequency at the 7.0% yield to "move" the full price from 105.46 as of 1/1/2018 to 107.290 as of 4/1/2018. This is because the yield is 7.0% per annum with semi-annual compound frequency. But the accrued interest (AI) by convention is simple interest. However, it really is just a convention. The decisive value is the full price because it is the DCF. In a different culture, we could agree to a different AI convention, and we'd get a different resultant flat price per flat = full - AI. In the equation full = flat + AI, it's really the left-hand side that matters. *Both the AI and the flat (quote) price are mere conventions!* I hope that's helpful,

    • @Johnny2tc
      @Johnny2tc 2 роки тому

      @@bionicturtle Yes thanks so much for taking the time to clear up my question and answer!

  • @ericcuellar9549
    @ericcuellar9549 Рік тому

    very helpful, thank you!