Fenrir strat vs ALL Data Battles - Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix (Critical Mode)
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- Tutorial on how to do the strat: • How To Do the Fenrir S...
0:00 Roxas
0:44 Larxene
1:24 Marluxia
2:30 Luxord
5:46 Demyx
10:51 Axel
11:47 Saïx
12:45 Zexion
16:17 Lexeaus
17:51 Vexen
19:16 Xaldin
24:08 Xigbar
28:22 Xemnas Part 1
33:33 Final Xemnas
#kingdomhearts #kingdomhearts2 - Ігри
"I fear not the man who has practiced 1000 kicks, but the man who has practiced 1 kick 1000 times"
Bruce lee😊😊😊😊😊
Doesn't take as much practice as Firaga spam throughout the whole KH trilogy lol
Wait, does or doesn't?@@GawainW
Sun Tzu
dude lmfao
There can't be a better place to comment this
Saïx: do you feel it? The moon's power
Sora: do you feel it? Fenrir's power
@@kyestar88 I wanna learn
@@roleemack1535 Fenrir is Loki's child and a Giant Wolf.
Couple that with the moon thing and it has a strong sense of irony.
Heh the irony
pretty sure Saix's line is actually "Can you feel it? The moon's power?"
"You think you want some chips with that cheese?"
-Skips; Regular Show
"Oh yeah I guess I over did it with the cheese."
legendary comment
When you read this in his voice. Lol
Sora giving the bonking of a lifetime towards all of the organization members.
yes
Luxord is like: THIS IS NOT HOW YOU PLAY SORA
I read it with a British accent lmao
Sora: Screw the rules, I have munny!
Luxord is just like "Sora you can't always brute force your way through battle"
Sora is just like "Bet."
Bet indeed.
Sora: *spams air finisher*
Luxord: _No._
What spam
I'm low-key amazed at how little lag there is in KH2 for landing and jumping again. You get to land, jump, and attack again all before they're out of hitstun.
yeah jumps cancel the endlag animation you can do this in kh1 too and cast a lpt of magic really fast
This is the difference between the old combat philosophy and the new one. Every game after 2 has been considered floaty because finishers no longer snap you to the ground. With negative combo and Fenrir most bosses should get cheesed by this
Yeah, the Osaka team absolutely murdered the flow this game had. Particle effects and shiny graphics will never top the nirvana that was the combat of KH2.
@@C_Train74 very much so agreed. I've come to love the others more than I used to, even 3 has grown on me with how flashy and fun it is, but admittedly the original teams combat philosophy is better
Okay now so this to sephiroth
Luxord: The first one to run out of time is the loser
Sora: No, the first person to get hit by my Fenrir is the loser.
So, the moral of the story is: it's ludicrously powerful, but becomes less effective the higher up you go.
Yep
Then why does it work so well on Lingering Will? 😂 Don't get me wrong, what you said IS true but I get the feeling Terra's an exception. Not that I'm complaining lol
@@raptorlewis273 LOL, you're right. But (to clarify) I was exclusively referring to the Data Org. fights. The "Negative Combo + Fenrir" strat is more effective against Roxas than Xemnas; it does the same amount of damage, but Xemnas is harder to hit because he has better mobility and ranged capabilities, therefore making the strat take longer.
@@ATK1734Yeah, its effectiveness is dependent on the opponent’s moveset, mechanics, and retaliation behavior.
Xemnas is like: I've seen that move a billion times from Roxas and his air combo gear keyblades. Do better or lose your heart. 😂
Ryu low kick spam vs Bison moment
Luxord and Dymyx said nah you are gonna play this properly.
Probably because their arenas are so small the Fenrir Strat is doesnt work that well
@noVva555
No its because of thier gimmicks, they get i frames to use special abilities.
this is an alternate timeline sora where he canonically beats the Organization like this because he dumped all his skills into strength
Berserk
@@burritowyrm6530soroids
Marluxia deserves this
Agreed
The X and O buttons: we're tired boss😭
Well that's too damn bad, keep mashing
@@TimothyGodimagine losing on the final boss then repeat from the first boss in the area! 😂
@@kevinmorad2563 with early checkpoints of "continue" i wouldn't have been surprised lol
the virgin Explosion
THE CHAD VANILLA AIR COMBO FINISHER
How to beat the super bosses of kh2
Play the game and try to beat Sephirot
Beat Sephirot
Jump
Hit
Repeat the last 2 steps
You forgotten about most important step: grind until you get negative combo(whenever after or before sephiroth)
@@User1273- oh yeah i forgot that
*sephiroph
Include Lingering Will there
Let’s analyze this thoroughly. Strap in, this is gonna be a long thread.
Short explanation as to why the Fenrir strat works, Sora’s neutral air finisher puts some (not all) humanoid bosses into a damage wobble animation. In this animation, they can’t retaliate. So if you string finishers together by jumping, you can loop them. If you do this, make sure they don’t touch a wall that is angled. If they hit a wall that is weirdly shaped, they’ll be in the air long enough to recognize that their revenge value threshold has been reached and they’ll instantly retaliate. I’ve done this for all 13 data fights as well, so thank you for compiling them into a very nice video. Here’s the results:
All fights that happen in an arena with flat ground, and invisible walls are pretty much guaranteed to work.
Roxas: guaranteed to work, and for added style points, if you take his Keyblades, they deal bonus damage for you.
Larxene: guaranteed to work, but you can’t let her split. If she does split, merge her clone back into her with the RC and then wail on her.
Marluxia: Guaranteed to work. Nothing special
Luxord: terrain doesn’t support the strat and he has a special animation where he becomes a card for a split second before jumping away.
Demyx: In theory it is possible, you just have to get past the water clone phases. He does these guaranteed and they are not negotiable. Problem is that the walls of this arena aren’t flat. So, as you saw in the video, he retaliated when he touched the walls.
Axel: Obviously possible from the video, you just have to use the RC to get rid of the lava floor.
Saïx: Is possible and you can even stop his berserk mode altogether. If you start the fight using the “guard break” ability, you’ll stop him from charging up the berserk meter. From there, do the strat normally.
Zexion: Terrain doesn’t support it. The terrain is not flat. He’ll hit something and immediately jump away and trap you. In my mind it seems possible, but tried multiple times to no effect.
Lexaeus: Possible, but not fool proof. Problem here is his HP gates. At certain HP levels he’ll automatically power up. Defend until you find an opening, rinse, repeat.
Vexen: Works but not fool proof. He has an HP gate like Lexaeus where he’ll automatically do a DM. If you survive it, he’ll summon an anti-Sora. Destroy it like you did in the video, rinse, repeat, win.
Xaldin: His movement doesn’t support it. He’s always floating in the air, so he doesn’t go into damage wobble.
Xigbar: Won’t work. He’s always upside down, and in the air, so he’ll always know to retaliate.
Xemnas 1: Terrain doesn’t support it. He’s got a special animation where he puts himself in a cocoon like thing.
Xemnas 2: won’t work. He’s always in the air, so he’ll always know to retaliate.
So basically the only reason this works for Roxas and a few of the org members is the circular arena that doesn't have a proper wall.
@@UltimaKeyMaster correct. If there is any collision that leaves them airborne for even a few extra frames, they will retaliate.
Delicious cheese. So good
🧀🧀🧀
Finishers tend to add a high value to the boss's revenge meter. Too bad they can't take their revenge.
Everyone has a plan until they get bonked in the face.
A minute in the video and I’m just like “poor roxas”
I didn’t know you could use the same cheese strat for all bosses, now I found my missing edge, thanks a bunch
Im boutta cheese the shit out of all data bosses now🤣🤣
Do it without it. It's easy even on critical.
As someone with the reflexes of a dead cat, I can appreciate the base level of skill and timing needed for these cheesy tactics.
Thank you sir
Are we just gonna ignore how final form reflect may actually be better than wisdom fire for dealing with water clones? It doesn't take much MP,has good range, and also takes out the clones in 1 hit.
There's also no risk of Anti Form
You would need Fenrir because the keyblades won't go out until the final hit. Spamming fire wisdom makes you slide around and it has a larger hotboxes to guarantee a hit
Edit: it will stay in Fenrir cheese anyways
Eh for me that's not true. I can't stand using that reflect thing unless I'm in my normal state. I never get the timing down right. Its a lot easier for me to transform into my final form and spam fire instead. However I noticed that the reflect thing doesn't use that much me so it's not a bad idea altogether. Its just not for me.
It really isn't better, Final costs 5 drive bars. The mp isn't a problem since you can use ethers and those are reflect finishers because of double negative combo so it wouldn't even work at lvl 1 or without Fenrir in general and using Fenrir on bosses if you aren't trying to cheese them isn't worth it. Duck Flare is the best way technically.
If you hit saix twice to begin, you can use the strat for the rest of the battle and never have to worry about his combos
I was iffy on the Negative Combo Plus ability for this Keyblade until I was told a while ago it lets you access your Finisher earlier. I have clue if I'll actually try this myself, but it is pretty nice. Also, I find it interesting how Demyx still puts up quite a fight.
Demyx might be taking revenge because d n g are hitting him. Setting them to Sora attack should make it easier
This is why they won't let Sora in Smash
My comment will be deleted on October 5th if you’re right. Until then have a nice day.
@@voltingmaster5458 We'll see.
@@voltingmaster5458 3 more days
Guess who just got into Smash!
Youre wrong
Demyx: Dance Water Dance!
Sora: Dance Fenrir Dance!
More Like: DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE DEFENSE
@@cratuss2661 what
sora says defense all the time. did you not watch the fight?@@smoreblox3485
Sora: AHA! AHA! HA! RAH!
Demyx: Ow. Ow. Ow. Ow.
Sora: “Why! Won’t! You! Die!”
Luxord: “Cards >: D”
Lore accurate sora be like, "unga bunga bonk dem wif keybwade"
Xaldin been Xaldin... he sure deserves the "Superboss" Title
Or use magnega when he teleports
Seeing Larxene get beat like this was soooo satisfying..
This is the definition of cheese... and I love cheese
This man out here beating the Organization with the Dragon Slayer
This went crazy on final xemnas for me, lowkey had me hyped to see someone did this for all of them
Im ngl I was basically doing this in vanilla PS2 version. But as a casual and having no idea about the combat system. Was SO fucking fun
Glad to see my inner mash X ape brain IS a viable playstyle. And can look entertaining too
There’s no way your fingers DIDNT HURT LIKE HELL after this
Nope I was vibing
Nah they hurt more from consecutively mashing, like in DMC
You have to press X by tapping your finger as fast as you can lol
tfw donald over there starts using *thunder* on *larxene*
The game is rigged bro.
If only I knew that's strat earlier, so much hours of my life waste in die and retry
on the bright side, you can always say that you beat them without the cheese strat
@@yeetmaster-eb1xq also doesn’t work on lv1 crit cause second negative combo needs level up
@@aspreedacore i didnt even say anything about lvl1 what are you on
@@yeetmaster-eb1xq just stating the fact you can’t use this strat on a lv1 play though
@@aspreedacore I was legit wondering if I could do this on my lvl1 crit play through lmao so thanks
I'm both surprised and not surprised that the Fenrir strat doesn't work on all the bosses. Lol
If it weren't for Sora's ability to just heal himself over and over again I don't think 93% of players would ever beat kingdom hearts 1 or 2
I feel like you could say that for most RPGs
This is an example of difficulty not meaning the game is good if you aren’t allowed to heal the game stops being fun in most cases
@@ProbablyAlmondIt's more so that the game would be actively punishing you for making a mistake rather than difficulty. Difficult games balance their difficulty with having a way for players to correct an error. Dark Souls, as notoriously difficult as it is, has flasks for example.
@@zjuraeventide8949 The game DOES punish you all the time MP is completely taken away for a reason, just because it's not instant death doesn't mean you aren't punished
@@keatonyung938 I don't think you understood what I was referring to
He really said: BONK
Is the cheese literally take off every combo mod and combo plus not to mention add on the ability + Fenrirs negative combo?
If so then I know what I’m gonna do for a challenge for this game
Lol you're right about that. I have all the requirements in the description to perform this strat
Don't forget to add the negative combo you get from leveling
You would also avoid high jump since that extra height and slightly longer jump animation can ruin the set up for some bosses
Thanks to you I was able to beat them all 🎉 zexion was the hardest imo I hate those damn books seconded by xemnas and the spear guy on the bridge :P
Sora literally bonks organization 13 to their deaths.
Ye
When someone tells you Kingdom Hearts 2 combat has no flaws...
Many such sad cases
@BreadSticksSansUndertaleIt's not what they say, it's more how they act towards similar games. Take KH3 for example. They're quicker to point out the flaws while letting their KH2 bias shine often exaggerating 3's flaws. My point is people act like this game is a masterpiece when there're a TON of design flaws that 1 and 3 don't have. Yeah, no game is perfect but there's a strong case 3 and 1 have better design choices even regarding the combat. Not only are they more streamlined so it's easier to learn, but they retain a highish skill ceiling to master where most of your choices matter. Sure, 3 isn't balanced when you compare your arsenal to the enemies but when it comes to your options, not one set of strats trumps another whereas in 2 and 2FM, it's melee and RC the whole time with magic mostly being situational by comparison to melee especially since MP is much more limited compared to 3.😂 Hell, I would even argue that just because 3 is easy, that's more due to less BS. My experience with 2 was completely frustrating mostly with the game poorly communicating to me how a large number of the new mechanics worked. If I had the option to learn and practice each thing in a controlled environment with better wording in the info box, I might've had a more fun experience instead of the game treating me like an idiot with beginner traps. (No, Beginner mode isn't THE solution to poor design.) Not to mention, bad RNG made it really annoying to implement any real tactic even those the community deemed optimal. No matter how I tried to improve, the game would screw me over. That aside, there's the hidden anti-form mechanics, the lack of being able to use items mid air for some reason, the over powered nature of Limits, the fact bosses require finishers to be beaten meaning they can snatch victory from you if you were caught off guard. Like, there's a ton of issues no one calls 2FM out on legitimately. No one is critical enough when looking at it. And, yet anything like 3 or anything that's not 2 gets dunked on continuously and unfairly. Sorry for the rant but I needed to call the 2 and 2FM community on their bullshit. Do I hate 2FM? Not at all. It's fine enough for a game but it needs more scrutiny and objectivity from the KH community especially the 2 fanboys.
Pues eso ya no funcionara en el tres
nah 2 is pretty good lol
@@raptorlewis273 hop off
For the axel fight when he's doing his triangle attack how did you dodge and throw the keyblade at him?
Luxord is like, i just wanna play a game
Here's something i did with xemmnas 1. When he uses his guard, you can use guard break to launch him. Though he'll only take two bonks before retaliating. If you mess up, i just use trinity as it can launh him as well and also set up for bonks.
Organisation XIII "NO YOU CANT JUST USE FENIR KEYBLADE FOR NEGATIVE COMBO WITH BESERK CHARGE TO CHEESE US!!!"
Sora "Hehe, Fenir go bonk"
Genuinely sorry to ruin the joke, but Berserk Charge disables Finishers whilst the MP Gague is re-charging, making it a self-inflicted debuff in this very specific situation.
Cloud and Leon(Squall): Renzokuken? OmniSlash? What is this monstrosity!?
Also: What Marluxia really said to Sora before the fight was that he ate his mother's dinner that Sora was supposed to eat the night him, Riku, and Kairi went missing.
I always thought he told Sora he will never make it to Super Smash
@@drlatiin813 This was the best one. As much as I love kingdom hearts, I don't think he belongs in Smash.
@@hardyjoe4278 I don't think he matches what they've been going for recently, like the best seller Minecraft or long running classics, or Nintendo Game on Switch. But sometimes all you want is a character you like in the roster
@@Tsukiru Oh man, I remember the "Snake doesn't belong with nintendo" arguments when Sm4sh came out. Now that there are guides on Kazuya coming out, I don't think I want to play him now. Plus I played against campy fox/falco players when trying him. They must not like him getting close.
I am too busy looking up ways to possibly play dragon quest IX with Hamachi to be disappointed. I see that a group plays metal gear solid portable ops+ On discord. I just don't get why Hamachi doesn't work with a NDS emulator for DQIX.
Now it's down to the wire, because so many characters wanted in Smash now only have one slot left. Not sure if Sakurai-San has another DLC pack coming after this.
@@hardyjoe4278 so. Four months late but *_SO._*
You earned your self a follow with notifications 📳🔔on😄😁
this is insane damn
I wish the Fenrir Keychain made a comeback in KH3
Right then this game wouldn't be balanced now would it ha but in beginning after Olympus we be op and grind through it in only on level 30
@@roleemack1535 Because of Negative Combo. Berserk and Negagive Combo was a short cut for the hard bosses
I get larxene in a loop but she always break free to do her last desperate move or whatever
While Megaman is the Jump and Shoot man
Sora is the Jump and Hit Guy
And Mario is the Jumpman. Would Mario be able to kill the organization members by jumping on them?
@@linkskywalker5417 yes, if he lands on their heads.
My fave keyblade. Even if it sacrifices slither of the spirit, but that kinda gives grounds for new to come up.
Against demyx, how did you use magnet burst in final form? I can't figure out how to do it. Thanks in advance!
Impressive.
Luxord is such an interesting fight
Luxord's a pain in the a** and I hate his fight the most alongside Demyx's.
@@hydellas678 figured the rules out?
@@mobgabriel1767 It's been a loooooong while since I fought either of them but yea I did after many failure attempts.
the true definition of endgame
years later but did you put high jump back on for xigbar nvm i see why you would need it back on lol
Fun how this works, for the most part, with the fm bosses but for the baseline ones doesn’t, it feels like they didn’t have time to test it out on fm
Roxas: Guh guh guh guh guh guh
Sora: AAAH-HA
Marluxia: 🤮, 🤮, 🤮, 🤮
Sora: AAAH-HA
We're some of my favorite quotes.
devs: yeah these are going to be hardest bosses of their entire lifes, they are gonna need a lot of experience, practice and-
the players:
jump
hit
jump
hit
jump
hit
jump
hit
jump
hit
I keep trying this (on Roxas, haven’t tested it on any others) but he starts his attack chain before I can start the combo, and he just annihilates me, any tips?
this is wild af
still arguably the coldest looking keyblade in my opinion
The cheese is very real lmao
That keyblade was OP I can upper cut so much and still have no hits on me
Jesus my 13 year old self is crying at the demyx fight so much time and finger cramps from not knowing the boosts were useable and not trinkets
Dam bro your growing glad to see that bro this vid used to be like me and you comments now it got 100+ comments
Yep and you were the first
@@drlatiin813 yup yes I was the first glad yo see you growing man😎❤️🔥🥶 proud
This keyblade does so much damage to them i'm just shocked to see how much damage it's doing
It's the level 99 not the key keyblade. I dom more damage with kingdom key than this.
@@johnpantag472bro what Fenrir has a higher strength stat than Kingdom Key how are you doing this
@@johnpantag472 prove it. Make a video. Prove you're not using an emulator
@@OmegaRedFanI'm pretty sure there's no need. There's one way to make sure Kingdom Key deals more damage than the Fenrir use in the video, and that's farming Power Boosts through specific Data Org. fights or adding Serenity Crystals when synthysizing Defence Boosts.
@@OmegaRedFanyes
Axel- "BURN BABY!!!"
Sora- "FENRIR NEGATIVE COMBO BABY!!!"
Larxene really enjoyed those smacks
That one reaction command on Marluxia is almost 5 bars.💀
*HUA*
Lol xD
I love the boss fights immune to the cheese
I remember doing similar to this back in the old ps2 days
Prove it. I beat Lexaeus under 5 minutes bro!
Crazy how the "weaker" members are harder to stun-lock.
I’m surprised you could actually make this strategy work for every Organisation member, I thought the way some battles had to be fought were designed to prevent the Fenrir stun trick in the first place.
It took a lot of practice. For some bosses it worked but for others I couldnt manage. It worked at first but they break out the revenge value so I couldnt kill them fast
Get up on the hydras back!
I remember getting stuck on Demyx in the original KH2. But that was before I knew that a game like this required things like equipping tools and armor and leveling up your character. Me being Autistic and not having gained a fine grasp on reading until age 12 may have played a part. But I eventually got to where I can get through these games with no issue.
I would love to know what his strength stat is especially when every time I use a finished it doesn’t do nearly as much damage as this
Strength stat is 100
i love it when you beat a desperation move that ends with them on one hp
because of he following moment of you charging them full force and BONKING them is always hilarious
jesus this is brutal
I feel like everybody's compelled to hit the Marluxia reaction command at least 1 time.
The ultimate “press x to win”
Tap* x
Press too slow
This shows that the more gimmicky fights are tedious with this strategy.
It looks like Luxord, Demyx, Zexion, Xaldin, Xigbar, & both Xemnas fights are lactose tolerant to the Fenrir cheese strat.
Vexen got out due to his scripted Desperation Move around 5.5 bars of health & Lexaeus got out due to a certain amount threshold going to his next phase.
So your telling me. I CAN LITERALLY BEAT EVERY DATA ORG MEMBER AND NOT TAKE 5 HOURS JUST TO BEAT 1 ORG MEMBER!?
What level of strength do you have in the statistics? you hit hard
My strength is 102
Xemnas is like; Its over Sora, I have downloaded your moveset.
Sora: That's impossible
I swear, something about Critical Mode makes you do way more damage.
DANCE WATER DANCE!!! **DANCE WATER DANCE!!**
AAAAHHH PLEASE STOP!!
Xemnas fight is the most balanced one it seems.
my physical reaction to sora just bonking tf out of roxas at the beginning of the video shouldve been recorded lol xD
It makes me laugh against Roxas who seems to be hitting him with a hammer! With the shovel badly! 😂😂😂
"This is my beat-stick"
Im sorry how strong is that keyblade
The top in strength paired with him being lvl 99
The irony is, it’s kind of terrible UNLESS you go all in on negative combo. Spamming finishers tends to break the game, given how insistent KH2 is on you using them.
I need a cigarette after that Larxene battle