I bought an OVM 39 a few years ago. Beautiful watch. I am in a wheelchair but use my left hand (watch hand) to work a computer mouse all day. After being hand wound properly at first and then worn 24 7's for about 5 days, the watch starts gaining time and then just stops. I thought it possibly needed to be regulated. I then bought a Cronos submariner homage. A very fine watch with great reviews. The same thing happened. Perfect time for a few days and then gaining time and stopping altogether. Is my being in a wheelchair keeping me from stimulating the automatic movements sufficiently to work?
Hi there, yes possibly the automatic movements are not getting enough motion to allow them to wind sufficiently to keep running… it would be depend on how vigorous the movements are. One way around this is that you could give it a manual wind every 2-3 days.
The reversa gears on the automatic winding packed up on mine. This tends to happen if you don't wear it every day and you need to wind it manually. This is a well known problem on ETA 2824 movements.
First, another excellent review. I have the 42mm and the 39mm. The bracelets are pretty difficult to unclasp on my samples. They both need force. I am guessing this must vary. The bezel on this is meant to be a homage of the Rolex 5517 unlike the 5513 which only has index marks out 15 minutes. That is why there are no classic submariner hands and a different bezel. The Rolex 5513/5514 are very similar; however, there is a variation of hand and dial formats. The ETA movements seem to be between +2-+5 seconds per day fast on my watches. The 42mm and 39mm are not exact. The crystal rises above the bezel on the 39mm and the minute hand is thicker; whereas the crystal and bezel are flush on the 42mm. Also, the case-backs are different. My 39mm has a No. 4xx engraved while the 42mm does not. The 42mm has the crystal sitting flush with the bezel; however, the bezel rises above the case unlike the 39mm. I can say the domed sapphire picks up scratches. Overall I like the watches. Again, great review! Oh, one last thing....the 39mm has a 20mm lug width while the 42mm has a 22mm width.
Thank you very much for sharing that, it's great to know the differences between the 39 and 42mm versions. Curious to hear about scratches on the sapphire crystal... theoretically this should not be possible unless you're banging against another sapphire or a diamond. It may be an anti-reflective coating that has picked up up the scratches, and that's what's visible??
@@PerthWAtch Hello, the scratches are in the sapphire as my finger nail will stick into them. I have another Bernhardt Field Diver with a scratch into the sapphire crystal, you can feel it as well as see it. Apparently it isn't that hard to do. I don't baby my watches, and I'm pretty active and use them all. Depending on your job and recreational activities it isn't hard to do. My girlfriend is responsible for the scratches in the 39mm Steinhart. She is very active and clumsy. We are not sure what she struck, but they are there to stay. Yeah, I hear sapphire is supposed to not scratch, but I can tell you that just isn't so. What's worse is a few years ago at work I accidentally slammed my wrist into a metal shelf while walking with my Citizen with sapphire and it shattered. I am not impressed thus far with sapphire. Most of my G-Shocks also have light scratches, but the crystals have never failed like that. In my experience any domed crystal that is raised above the bezel is just asking for potential damage. My Seiko Flight Master has a domed Hardlex crystal. The day is coming when it gets scratched. Of course Hardlex is mineral crystal, but at least maybe it won't completely fail. Doesn't seem to matter how careful I am, it just happens. Perhaps I just have bad luck with watch crystals?
Wow seems like some bad luck! In my understanding, being able to see and feel a scratch still doesn't exclude it being in the coating rather than the actual crystal itself. And yeah sapphire can indeed shatter, it just needs enough energy input to make it do so... contrast with acrylic which is easy to scratch but takes far far more energy to shatter. In my own experience I have never had a scratch on any of my sapphire watches, but definitely have on mineral glass. And agreed, glass that pops over the bezel is asking for trouble. Sapphire is sometimes deliberate designed like that to protect the bezel from scratches, but depending on application this may backfire I suppose!
@@PerthWAtch Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, neither watches have coating on the outer surface; only the inner crystal sides are coated. I actually like thick acrylic crystals because you can polish scratches out when a lot accumulate. In many ways it could be superior to other types considering impact resistance, and the fact you wouldn't need to replace a thick acrylic crystal very often.
Ah that's a pity. Yeah many acrylic lovers do cite those reasons for preferring it, along with the fact that it doesn't pick up fingerprints anywhere near as much as mineral or sapphire.
I just got back from Aachen, Germany (only a 40 min drive for me) from the only official brick-and-mortar Steinhart-dealer in the country. Bought an OVM 42mm, which is my first new watch in ages. I couldn't be happier with my purchase - this thing looks amazing and much more impressive than in pics or on video. Put it on a NATO - but don't ask how long it took me to get the bracelet off and back on with that simple fork-tool they gave me. :D Anyway: I was worried about the flat lugs since my wrist isn't exactly huge (a little over 17cm/a little under 7 inches). But I don't really see what the fuss is about. The watch sits perfectly fine on my wrist with no overhang and feels very comfortable - even more so on the NATO, I have to admit. I did try a 39mm version as well (that Pepsi Vintage GMT looks friggin amazing) and, honestly, the difference was noticeable ... but only just. Anyway... thanks to you and all the other watch-YTers for making me aware of Steinhart. It's too bad that they're not interested in supporting content-creators a bit more and from what the dealer told me (who knows Mr Steinhart personally), that isn't going to change in the near future.
Thanks for sharing that, very happy to hear about your experience and that you're enjoying the watch immensely. I think the long lugs issue really depends on the shape of the wrist... another person with similar wrist size but rounder profile may find it sticks out considerable while if you have a flatter profile it may not be an issue at all. Cheers!
Why would anyone remove a very nice SS bracelet and put this watch on a cheap, $3 piece of nylon? I hate those fugly dog-collar straps and they are a downgrade. I'd rather have a folded-link SS bracelet than a dog-collar strap with the end flapping around or folded over so it catches on everything.
@@arthurott4561 Hi Arthur, they came in handy on vacation. I was swimming every day in the ocean. When done I'd wash the watch and strap, and throw on a dry one. When I got home, back on the bracelet went! I've never been the biggest fan of nato straps, but for a tool watch, I've found them practical at times.
Beautiful watch. During the pandemic, gonna need: 1)day 2)date and 3)pants, complication. (Like a 9am-3pm pants-on zoom call complication). If you can get Seiko to make the "SKPants 9.3" model, I'm buying.
Following on from my last message regarding this watch . The dial colour seems to be rather controversial with many potential or current Steinhart OVM owners . It is an anthracite grey colour which I personally like and prefer to the original solid black dial face . I think it tends to grow on you and definitely is different , I also think it matches the vintage pale orange / yellow colour of the radium on the hands . I also think that with the passing of time , it might even become a collectors piece . At present I am wearing my OVM with a quality light tan colour German made leather strap which seems to complement the colour on the hands , but I have been wearing the watch with a brown colour (3 ring) Zulu type strap which not only looked good but are much better quality than the Nato style strap .
Thanks for more great thoughts there Kian... when you say original black dial, are you referring to the Ocean One models? I think the original OVM (which was a more slavish homage to the vintage Rolex) also had a grey dial, didn't it? In any case, the Steinhart OVM is one of their few models that are appreciating in value once they have been discontinued :)
thanks for the review. I always loved this Steinhart Mil-sub watch, however, I did not want to buy it because of the dial color. Steinhart makes some great watches and I have bought and sold few of them, but I always hated the dark gray dial color as you can see from your youtube video. Love the movement, love the size and love the feel of the watch. But the dark gray dial color???? Hated it. Until now. now Steinhart is offering this same watch with deep-black dial color (I guess that they finally realized to use really black color for the dial). So I just bought one yesterday and hopefully I will receive it in late next week. thanks and your watch reviews are awesome. keep it coming. PS: by the way, I bought this new Steinhart mainly because I am planning to sell my Ginault watches. I liked them very much but as you may read my posting, after I found out their bad customer service and the Movement being "China made", I kind of lost interests and don't like wearing them anymore.
Thanks for sharing that Alex... glad to hear that the colour is now more to your liking. I'm wondering why you dislike grey dials so much? I have a couple of grey dial watches and overall I quite like them, as it's not a common colour and stands out a bit. I have Ginault too... I do like it also and find the quality of a level commensurate with the price, so probably will hang on to it still. Cheers, Ivan.
@@PerthWAtch hi Ivan. I am okay with Gray dial, but just not on Steinhart subs. for some reason, Gray dial does not go with the bezel color and silver casing and so forth. deep black looks much better. If Rolex sub and even Ginault had the same gray color for their dials, I am sure that many people would have complained for it. I always love your reviews and keep it coming. thanks Ivan.
Roman God Of The Sea NEPTUNE Riding HIs Favorite Animal A Sea Horse (on caseback) ... The Greeks called him POSEIDEN who adored riding Horses ... And Yes, Greek & Roman Gods were pictured as Warriors so you are correct ... sorry about that, I was forced to take a class in college on Classical Mythology ... Wearing my new super polished Breitling Superocean Chrono 42mm during your review & I don't believe I'll ever fall in love with another Diver in 100 years, Nevertheless for the PRICE this watch CAN'T be Beat although everyone gets a Lemon now & then (I've been lucky). Keep Up The Great Reviews. Major Jim, USMC
Thank you for the insight into Greek and Roman mythology Jim, a subject I definitely know very little about! Breitling Superocean... I gotta say you've come some way after initially being shocked at the prices mentioned in some of my earlier videos! Cheers mate, Ivan.
great video, I'm thinking of buying a Steinhart which one is the best ovm , OCEAN One VINTAGE Red or OCEAN One Ceramic ? which one would you choose ? you have had hands on all. Thanks
Thanks for that Bobby! I haven't had hands on the Vintage Red, but I do have the Titanium 500 GMT as well as Ocean 44. I think overall the OVM wins out - it's great value, is versatile, not too ostentatious... just a great package. The Titanium 500 is also a great choice if you want something a bit different and have the budget for it.
Stainless steel is definitely easier to work with, polishes up to a shine without much issue... whereas titanium is rather difficult to get to shine. Titanium has its own characteristics, something definitely quite different if that is of interest.
Good looking watch. You compared the Seiko Samurai SRPB51 against the Steinhart GMT, howevere, which do you prefer between the above Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military or the Seiko SRPB51? Cheers
Good question Gary... I think for my taste overall and given my wrist size I have to go for the Steinhart OVM. The Samurai is very cool but strictly speaking too large for me.
@@PerthWAtch Yeah. I must admit, I prefer watches below 42mm. In fact I think 40-41mm is ideal when the lug height is around 45-47mm. I've got a 7.5 inch wrist so the SRPB51 may be okay. I do like the traditional SKX's though, which I haven't bought yet. There is also the Tisell Marine Diver. The one thing the Samurai has got and I totally agree with you on it is the unique design, which I really like. It also looks very nicely finished and a step above the SKX imo. Not a fan of the Turtles. I see you can pick up these Samurai's for around AU$440-470, which isn't bad at all. I think the pick of the bunch is the 51-Black version. Decisions decisions :)
Yeah I do think the Samurai finishing is definitely a cut above the SKX. And yeah the local price isn't too bad (for once!). Do let us know what you go with :)
@@PerthWAtch Just bought an SKX007K2 now that I know they've discontinued it. I never had an SKX, and I'm a bit of a 1980s nutter. So it looks like the perfect nostalgia purchase. Picked it up in Box, New, for AU$252 total incl postage (so about US$183). Let's hope the chapter ring and hour markers align! I was interested in the SKX009K2 with the pepsi bezel, as that is quintessential 1980s, but I think the SKX007K2 has a nicer monotone blackish/white dial. I don't like the Turtle designs, but I do like the Samurai but I'm a bit concerned about its size. Ideally I might buy into the SBDC50s or SBDC60s range. They look like classic beauties that are punching well higher than their AU1-1.2k price range. Might hold back and wait for a used one.
Thanks for sharing that... I have an SKX007 myself and like you I certainly chosen that very specifically instead of the Pepsi bezel. Well I'm sure you will enjoy it, it's really quite a special piece, defies all odds in garnering a cult following despite all it's shortcomings. Cheers, Ivan.
Does the Ocean 44 wear much bigger than the Ocean Vintage Military? They are the two watches I am considering as my first Swiss watch. Currently I have an Orient Ray II that wears a little small on my 8 inch wrist.
The 44 definitely wears bigger than the OVM, and difference is easily noticeable. The OVM at 42mm is slightly bigger than the 41.5mm Ray II, but you may well find it too small also... I think with an 8 inch wrist you can easily & appropriately carry the size of the 44. Cheers, Ivan.
Perth WAtch I am the proud owner of Steinhart OVM and I am over the moon for it. I have had it for a week and I plan on wearing it all summer long. I had to remove one link to get a proper fit. 😃
Hi, I've got a question. Am I blind or is the "dot" on the bezel is not in line with the triangle? Please answer because I want to order this watch. Thank you.
Hi there - sorry I no longer have this watch. You may be right in that there is a slight misalignment - this is unfortunately a common potential QC issue is such watches, including much more expensive ones. Steinhart has a good reputation so far, but there is still always a risk of minor issues - under warranty they may rectify. You wouldn't void this risk completely unless you're going to far more expensive brands. =
Well done, I have two Steinharts and love them. They are made like a tank. Rock solid and classy. My Rolex Sub stays in the box and I prefer my Steinharts,
Thanks for that - yeah I would probably be the same in being cautious with the Rolex too. It's too bad but yes these Steinharts are very good, excellent for the price really!
@@PerthWAtch I have discussed such things on watch forums (yes, I'm sad). I don't really know what is meant to constitute a good movement. You can buy an NH35 or Miyota 8215 movement that can easily be regulated by yourself to great accuracy. They will last 10 years with regular use, and then be replaced for peanuts. In my experience ETA movements are no more accurate, very difficult to regulate by an amateur, and expensive to service or replace. Like most watch enthusiasts I am prepared to pay extra for a Swiss movement, but occasionally I ask myself why
Thank Rolex design for the beauty :) NATO straps suit such watches very well… but that’s not necessarily an upgrade - some would say it’s a downgrade ;)
That could be the second Steinhart in my collection,it is gorgeous! I already have the ocean one vintage and I love it not for beeing a hommage,just for beeing a well build, fair priced and beautiful watch! Best regards Oni
Thanks for comment! The Ocean One Vintage is also an interesting and very nicely done watch... Although I'm pretty sure it's also an homage, specifically of the Rolex 6200. Cheers, Ivan.
I was gonna suggest taking a look at the new Spinnaker strap range but even with discount it might be over budget. Sydney Strap Co have many leather straps and NATO styles within that budget.
Great watch for the money but falls rather short compared to Christopher Ward Dartmouth which feels way more premium, while serving indentical purpose.
I bought one, love it. It's not a piece of crap , but let's face it folks it's not a Rolex, and treat and beat up like a Rolex. I love mechanical watches, can't stand quartz. While they may be slightly more accurate, they lack the elegance of the mechanical. I saved for two years to buy my first quality watch., A Rolex precision...circa 1950 my birth year. Had it rebuilt and is m pride and joy. I love the Steinhart for a Rolex homage. But don't expec it to wear like a Submariner and take the same punishment. To do so is looking for a fall. My special watch savings acct is slowing increasing for my submariner. Sorry to be so wordy, enjoy your videos very informative Jack L Philly, pa
Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful comment Jack, always good to hear from experience. I like the idea of a "special watch savings account"! Glad you enjoy the videos :)
Southerbys Sold one for $218.000 Rolex 'MILSUB' SUBMARINER, REF 5517 STAINLESS STEEL MILITARY WRISTWATCH MADE FOR THE BRITISH ARMED FORCES CIRCA 1978 Estimate 150,000 - 300,000 CHF LOT SOLD. 218,750 CHF
Roman Grom what was your opinion of the watch before it broke? 2 years that sucks , just after the warranty wares out it takes a crap 💩 , take it to a jeweler it might be a cheap easy fix it's worth finding out , they're beautiful watches with solid movements
The watch is heavy and built like a tank. It was water resistant. Now it's broken and doesn't move. I'm not going to fix it. I've got the real thing; Rolex Sub. I Will never buy the cheap Rolex like watches again.
Thanks for the comment Roman... I am sorry to hear about your experience. Overall it sounds like there is no issue about the build of the watch, but rather an issue with the movement (?). If so I would say that it's probably not directly to do with Steinhart but that you have been unlucky with the movement - did watch suffer a drop or other shock? The 2824 is an *extremely* widely used movement that has shown reliability over many years, not to mention being used in brands typically selling at many times the price of Steinhart... so in that sense Steinhart is "cheap" in a good way (i.e. they do not have a blown out marketing budget, price markup, profit margin, etc).
Thank you - I do have a recent vintage Sub 16613LN (or at least it's in the possession of my family): ua-cam.com/video/xviMVbvHCWc/v-deo.html PS. I do like this Steinhart but it isn't mine - it was kindly made available by a local viewer.
I bought an OVM 39 a few years ago. Beautiful watch. I am in a wheelchair but use my left hand (watch hand) to work a computer mouse all day. After being hand wound properly at first and then worn 24 7's for about 5 days, the watch starts gaining time and then just stops. I thought it possibly needed to be regulated. I then bought a Cronos submariner homage. A very fine watch with great reviews. The same thing happened. Perfect time for a few days and then gaining time and stopping altogether. Is my being in a wheelchair keeping me from stimulating the automatic movements sufficiently to work?
Hi there, yes possibly the automatic movements are not getting enough motion to allow them to wind sufficiently to keep running… it would be depend on how vigorous the movements are. One way around this is that you could give it a manual wind every 2-3 days.
Superb review and watch, just ordered mine. Keep up the great work.
Great to hear!
The reversa gears on the automatic winding packed up on mine. This tends to happen if you don't wear it every day and you need to wind it manually. This is a well known problem on ETA 2824 movements.
Interesting - is it only a problem if you try to wind it manually?
First, another excellent review. I have the 42mm and the 39mm. The bracelets are pretty difficult to unclasp on my samples. They both need force. I am guessing this must vary. The bezel on this is meant to be a homage of the Rolex 5517 unlike the 5513 which only has index marks out 15 minutes. That is why there are no classic submariner hands and a different bezel. The Rolex 5513/5514 are very similar; however, there is a variation of hand and dial formats.
The ETA movements seem to be between +2-+5 seconds per day fast on my watches. The 42mm and 39mm are not exact. The crystal rises above the bezel on the 39mm and the minute hand is thicker; whereas the crystal and bezel are flush on the 42mm. Also, the case-backs are different. My 39mm has a No. 4xx engraved while the 42mm does not. The 42mm has the crystal sitting flush with the bezel; however, the bezel rises above the case unlike the 39mm. I can say the domed sapphire picks up scratches. Overall I like the watches. Again, great review!
Oh, one last thing....the 39mm has a 20mm lug width while the 42mm has a 22mm width.
Thank you very much for sharing that, it's great to know the differences between the 39 and 42mm versions. Curious to hear about scratches on the sapphire crystal... theoretically this should not be possible unless you're banging against another sapphire or a diamond. It may be an anti-reflective coating that has picked up up the scratches, and that's what's visible??
@@PerthWAtch Hello, the scratches are in the sapphire as my finger nail will stick into them. I have another Bernhardt Field Diver with a scratch into the sapphire crystal, you can feel it as well as see it. Apparently it isn't that hard to do. I don't baby my watches, and I'm pretty active and use them all. Depending on your job and recreational activities it isn't hard to do.
My girlfriend is responsible for the scratches in the 39mm Steinhart. She is very active and clumsy. We are not sure what she struck, but they are there to stay. Yeah, I hear sapphire is supposed to not scratch, but I can tell you that just isn't so. What's worse is a few years ago at work I accidentally slammed my wrist into a metal shelf while walking with my Citizen with sapphire and it shattered. I am not impressed thus far with sapphire. Most of my G-Shocks also have light scratches, but the crystals have never failed like that.
In my experience any domed crystal that is raised above the bezel is just asking for potential damage. My Seiko Flight Master has a domed Hardlex crystal. The day is coming when it gets scratched. Of course Hardlex is mineral crystal, but at least maybe it won't completely fail. Doesn't seem to matter how careful I am, it just happens. Perhaps I just have bad luck with watch crystals?
Wow seems like some bad luck! In my understanding, being able to see and feel a scratch still doesn't exclude it being in the coating rather than the actual crystal itself. And yeah sapphire can indeed shatter, it just needs enough energy input to make it do so... contrast with acrylic which is easy to scratch but takes far far more energy to shatter.
In my own experience I have never had a scratch on any of my sapphire watches, but definitely have on mineral glass. And agreed, glass that pops over the bezel is asking for trouble. Sapphire is sometimes deliberate designed like that to protect the bezel from scratches, but depending on application this may backfire I suppose!
@@PerthWAtch Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, neither watches have coating on the outer surface; only the inner crystal sides are coated. I actually like thick acrylic crystals because you can polish scratches out when a lot accumulate. In many ways it could be superior to other types considering impact resistance, and the fact you wouldn't need to replace a thick acrylic crystal very often.
Ah that's a pity. Yeah many acrylic lovers do cite those reasons for preferring it, along with the fact that it doesn't pick up fingerprints anywhere near as much as mineral or sapphire.
I just picked up that same watch but for $400 US bucks in excellent condition off of eBay. Yes, it is an amazingly gorgeous watch indeed!
That’s a pretty good deal!
I just got back from Aachen, Germany (only a 40 min drive for me) from the only official brick-and-mortar Steinhart-dealer in the country. Bought an OVM 42mm, which is my first new watch in ages. I couldn't be happier with my purchase - this thing looks amazing and much more impressive than in pics or on video. Put it on a NATO - but don't ask how long it took me to get the bracelet off and back on with that simple fork-tool they gave me. :D
Anyway: I was worried about the flat lugs since my wrist isn't exactly huge (a little over 17cm/a little under 7 inches). But I don't really see what the fuss is about. The watch sits perfectly fine on my wrist with no overhang and feels very comfortable - even more so on the NATO, I have to admit. I did try a 39mm version as well (that Pepsi Vintage GMT looks friggin amazing) and, honestly, the difference was noticeable ... but only just.
Anyway... thanks to you and all the other watch-YTers for making me aware of Steinhart. It's too bad that they're not interested in supporting content-creators a bit more and from what the dealer told me (who knows Mr Steinhart personally), that isn't going to change in the near future.
Thanks for sharing that, very happy to hear about your experience and that you're enjoying the watch immensely. I think the long lugs issue really depends on the shape of the wrist... another person with similar wrist size but rounder profile may find it sticks out considerable while if you have a flatter profile it may not be an issue at all. Cheers!
Why would anyone remove a very nice SS bracelet and put this watch on a cheap, $3 piece of nylon? I hate those fugly dog-collar straps and they are a downgrade. I'd rather have a folded-link SS bracelet than a dog-collar strap with the end flapping around or folded over so it catches on everything.
Can you please clarify whether you like NATO straps or not?
@@arthurott4561 Hi Arthur, they came in handy on vacation. I was swimming every day in the ocean. When done I'd wash the watch and strap, and throw on a dry one. When I got home, back on the bracelet went! I've never been the biggest fan of nato straps, but for a tool watch, I've found them practical at times.
I really want this watch. I love every single thing about it.
Thanks for that Jim - unfortunately this exact model is no longer available I think but there's an updated version I believe...
Beautiful watch. During the pandemic, gonna need: 1)day 2)date and 3)pants, complication. (Like a 9am-3pm pants-on zoom call complication). If you can get Seiko to make the "SKPants 9.3" model, I'm buying.
Good idea - I’ll be contacting them today!
Great review thanks . I love my Steinhart ocean one and wear it more often than not. This might be my next watch .
Thanks for the feedback, it's much appreciated. This brand is one to keep an eye on I reckon!
Following on from my last message regarding this watch . The dial colour seems to be rather controversial with many potential or current Steinhart OVM owners . It is an anthracite grey colour which I personally like and prefer to the original solid black dial face . I think it tends to grow on you and definitely is different , I also think it matches the vintage pale orange / yellow colour of the radium on the hands . I also think that with the passing of time , it might even become a collectors piece . At present I am wearing my OVM with a quality light tan colour German made leather strap which seems to complement the colour on the hands , but I have been wearing the watch with a brown colour (3 ring) Zulu type strap which not only looked good but are much better quality than the Nato style strap .
Thanks for more great thoughts there Kian... when you say original black dial, are you referring to the Ocean One models? I think the original OVM (which was a more slavish homage to the vintage Rolex) also had a grey dial, didn't it? In any case, the Steinhart OVM is one of their few models that are appreciating in value once they have been discontinued :)
Just bought one of these. And wow, it is much nicer in your hands. I love this watch.
You probably go the Mark III then? It is indeed a nice piece, great value! :)
thanks for the review. I always loved this Steinhart Mil-sub watch, however, I did not want to buy it because of the dial color. Steinhart makes some great watches and I have bought and sold few of them, but I always hated the dark gray dial color as you can see from your youtube video. Love the movement, love the size and love the feel of the watch. But the dark gray dial color???? Hated it. Until now. now Steinhart is offering this same watch with deep-black dial color (I guess that they finally realized to use really black color for the dial). So I just bought one yesterday and hopefully I will receive it in late next week.
thanks and your watch reviews are awesome. keep it coming.
PS: by the way, I bought this new Steinhart mainly because I am planning to sell my Ginault watches. I liked them very much but as you may read my posting, after I found out their bad customer service and the Movement being "China made", I kind of lost interests and don't like wearing them anymore.
Thanks for sharing that Alex... glad to hear that the colour is now more to your liking. I'm wondering why you dislike grey dials so much? I have a couple of grey dial watches and overall I quite like them, as it's not a common colour and stands out a bit.
I have Ginault too... I do like it also and find the quality of a level commensurate with the price, so probably will hang on to it still.
Cheers, Ivan.
@@PerthWAtch hi Ivan. I am okay with Gray dial, but just not on Steinhart subs. for some reason, Gray dial does not go with the bezel color and silver casing and so forth. deep black looks much better. If Rolex sub and even Ginault had the same gray color for their dials, I am sure that many people would have complained for it. I always love your reviews and keep it coming. thanks Ivan.
Great looking watch and excellent value for money. An ideal entry level watch for someone who is starting a watch collection. The Sub can come later.
Thanks for the comment Lawrence!
What i thought also
Roman God Of The Sea NEPTUNE Riding HIs Favorite Animal A Sea Horse (on caseback) ... The Greeks called him POSEIDEN who adored riding Horses ... And Yes, Greek & Roman Gods were pictured as Warriors so you are correct ... sorry about that, I was forced to take a class in college on Classical Mythology ... Wearing my new super polished Breitling Superocean Chrono 42mm during your review & I don't believe I'll ever fall in love with another Diver in 100 years, Nevertheless for the PRICE this watch CAN'T be Beat although everyone gets a Lemon now & then (I've been lucky). Keep Up The Great Reviews. Major Jim, USMC
Thank you for the insight into Greek and Roman mythology Jim, a subject I definitely know very little about! Breitling Superocean... I gotta say you've come some way after initially being shocked at the prices mentioned in some of my earlier videos! Cheers mate, Ivan.
I have the double red 39 on its way over now... couldn't resist the red text
Nice one :)
great video, I'm thinking of buying a Steinhart which one is the best ovm , OCEAN One VINTAGE Red or OCEAN One Ceramic ? which one would you choose ? you have had hands on all. Thanks
Thanks for that Bobby! I haven't had hands on the Vintage Red, but I do have the Titanium 500 GMT as well as Ocean 44. I think overall the OVM wins out - it's great value, is versatile, not too ostentatious... just a great package. The Titanium 500 is also a great choice if you want something a bit different and have the budget for it.
Only thing I 'dislike' about the titanium is that it is just that, titanium. I always think the SS looks much nicer on both the case and the bracelet.
Stainless steel is definitely easier to work with, polishes up to a shine without much issue... whereas titanium is rather difficult to get to shine. Titanium has its own characteristics, something definitely quite different if that is of interest.
Bought one a few years a go had a few issues , condensation, the crown snapped, and after it came back crown will not close properly,
Oh really? That’s terrible!
Good looking watch. You compared the Seiko Samurai SRPB51 against the Steinhart GMT, howevere, which do you prefer between the above Steinhart Ocean Vintage Military or the Seiko SRPB51?
Cheers
Good question Gary... I think for my taste overall and given my wrist size I have to go for the Steinhart OVM. The Samurai is very cool but strictly speaking too large for me.
@@PerthWAtch Yeah. I must admit, I prefer watches below 42mm. In fact I think 40-41mm is ideal when the lug height is around 45-47mm. I've got a 7.5 inch wrist so the SRPB51 may be okay. I do like the traditional SKX's though, which I haven't bought yet. There is also the Tisell Marine Diver. The one thing the Samurai has got and I totally agree with you on it is the unique design, which I really like. It also looks very nicely finished and a step above the SKX imo. Not a fan of the Turtles. I see you can pick up these Samurai's for around AU$440-470, which isn't bad at all. I think the pick of the bunch is the 51-Black version. Decisions decisions :)
Yeah I do think the Samurai finishing is definitely a cut above the SKX. And yeah the local price isn't too bad (for once!). Do let us know what you go with :)
@@PerthWAtch Just bought an SKX007K2 now that I know they've discontinued it. I never had an SKX, and I'm a bit of a 1980s nutter. So it looks like the perfect nostalgia purchase. Picked it up in Box, New, for AU$252 total incl postage (so about US$183). Let's hope the chapter ring and hour markers align!
I was interested in the SKX009K2 with the pepsi bezel, as that is quintessential 1980s, but I think the SKX007K2 has a nicer monotone blackish/white dial.
I don't like the Turtle designs, but I do like the Samurai but I'm a bit concerned about its size. Ideally I might buy into the SBDC50s or SBDC60s range. They look like classic beauties that are punching well higher than their AU1-1.2k price range. Might hold back and wait for a used one.
Thanks for sharing that... I have an SKX007 myself and like you I certainly chosen that very specifically instead of the Pepsi bezel. Well I'm sure you will enjoy it, it's really quite a special piece, defies all odds in garnering a cult following despite all it's shortcomings. Cheers, Ivan.
I bought a OVM v1 today for 450$ flawless condition with origional box and papers. I am in love.
That's a good bargain - those are typically being sold for higher prices these days!
Yes. He wanted 520$ minimum he said. Went back and force for a lil bit and we came to an amazing deal🙂
Does the Ocean 44 wear much bigger than the Ocean Vintage Military? They are the two watches I am considering as my first Swiss watch. Currently I have an Orient Ray II that wears a little small on my 8 inch wrist.
The 44 definitely wears bigger than the OVM, and difference is easily noticeable. The OVM at 42mm is slightly bigger than the 41.5mm Ray II, but you may well find it too small also... I think with an 8 inch wrist you can easily & appropriately carry the size of the 44. Cheers, Ivan.
Thank you for your quick replies to my questions on this video and on the Ocean 44 GMT video.
No worries, you're most welcome - all the best with sourcing a new watch!
Perth WAtch I am the proud owner of Steinhart OVM and I am over the moon for it. I have had it for a week and I plan on wearing it all summer long. I had to remove one link to get a proper fit. 😃
Awesome mate, glad to hear you're enjoying it! Wow one link... I thin I had to remove 4-5!! :)
Hi, I've got a question. Am I blind or is the "dot" on the bezel is not in line with the triangle? Please answer because I want to order this watch. Thank you.
Hi there - sorry I no longer have this watch. You may be right in that there is a slight misalignment - this is unfortunately a common potential QC issue is such watches, including much more expensive ones. Steinhart has a good reputation so far, but there is still always a risk of minor issues - under warranty they may rectify. You wouldn't void this risk completely unless you're going to far more expensive brands. =
The dot on my OVM lines up perfectly. Had the watch nearly a year and no problems.
Was that Version 2 of the OVM? Or was it Version 3 (current/latest) with the darker dial?
This one is version 2
I'm not sure if it's already mentioned in your previous videos, but what is your wrist size?
Hi there, it's 17cm. I did put it in the channel description, hard to know where else would be helpful. Cheers, Ivan.
Thanks.
Please Include Lume Shots in your Videos. It would be a great addition to already an awesome video.
Done 👍
Steinhart are awesome... my O1V on a retro rubber works great on my 7.5" wrist. 👍⌚
Nice one! :)
Great review, thank you 🙂👍. Still a great value for the $$$
Haha thanks!
Well done, I have two Steinharts and love them. They are made like a tank. Rock solid and classy. My Rolex Sub stays in the box and I prefer my Steinharts,
Thanks for that - yeah I would probably be the same in being cautious with the Rolex too. It's too bad but yes these Steinharts are very good, excellent for the price really!
Ugh please stop comparing my Steinhart to Invicta! Lol great review
Haha sorry but Invicta is so prominent, it just had to be done! ;)
Love the no date feature...if you can call it that.
Haha yeah not sure, but it is often a deliberate decision not to have the date for aesthetic reasons
Steinhart dont need ETA movements, Sellita make the same movements. Just ordered a vintage red, cant wait
Many watchmakers seem to have reported that Sellita is not the same as ETA, they are ever slightly inferior. But yes, not needed.
@@PerthWAtch I have heard others say they are even better. Anyway, what do I know ?
I’ve the opposite as well but more consistently the message is ETA > Sellita.
@@PerthWAtch I have discussed such things on watch forums (yes, I'm sad). I don't really know what is meant to constitute a good movement. You can buy an NH35 or Miyota 8215 movement that can easily be regulated by yourself to great accuracy. They will last 10 years with regular use, and then be replaced for peanuts. In my experience ETA movements are no more accurate, very difficult to regulate by an amateur, and expensive to service or replace. Like most watch enthusiasts I am prepared to pay extra for a Swiss movement, but occasionally I ask myself why
This watch is a real beauty and even more beautiful in reality. I'ved upgraded mine on a olive green Nato strap, I don't like metal bracelets.
Thank Rolex design for the beauty :)
NATO straps suit such watches very well… but that’s not necessarily an upgrade - some would say it’s a downgrade ;)
@@PerthWAtch yes I agree with you bravo to Rolex ! 👍🏻
That could be the second Steinhart in my collection,it is gorgeous! I already have the ocean one vintage and I love it not for beeing a hommage,just for beeing a well build, fair priced and beautiful watch! Best regards Oni
Thanks for comment! The Ocean One Vintage is also an interesting and very nicely done watch... Although I'm pretty sure it's also an homage, specifically of the Rolex 6200. Cheers, Ivan.
Perth WAtch it is,nur I don't bought it because of that! Cheers
Ah I see what you mean now - apologies I misunderstood, I thought you meant it's not an homage.
Perth WAtch it was my fault! 😉
well said my friend
Great watch for the money. I would wear it on a nato strap
Thanks for the feedback - yes it definitely goes very with NATO straps, in fact it's almost crying out for it! :)
Can anyone recommend where to buy a nice Dark Brown (distressed) leather NATO or leather strap for this watch? (for a reasonable price) :)
What's your budget? Would Colareb leather be too expensive?
@@PerthWAtch Maybe an option under AU$30 and an option under AU$50?
Found a few in that range on Etsy, but you can never tell just from the pics..
I was gonna suggest taking a look at the new Spinnaker strap range but even with discount it might be over budget. Sydney Strap Co have many leather straps and NATO styles within that budget.
Panatime Copenhagen, Vintage Leather Nato (4 Brushed Rings)
It´s so cool, I just love that watch!
Yeah it rocks!!
Great watch for the money but falls rather short compared to Christopher Ward Dartmouth which feels way more premium, while serving indentical purpose.
Surely not if your purpose is wanting a good vintage Sub homage! ;)
@@PerthWAtch In that case you are right
Hey, Love the channel!
Could you tell me your wrist size?
I think it fits you great
Thanks! My wrist is 17cm.
I love this watch. It is such a great value. The bracelet doesn't bother me because I put a NATO strap on it.
Thanks for the comment. Just wondering - are you a lady? This is a relatively large watch.
The bracelet is just fine.
Is it?
this is the Rolex milsub (Iranian) copy hands from 1970s
Yes that’s pretty much what I said
Nice vid. You've got yourself a new subscriber. :S
Thanks :)
Ghost date position, on a watch of this price, it's just unacceptable.
Yes!
Love it. But will sell it soon
Why sell?
@@PerthWAtch I have too many watches
Beautiful watch, but that one in the circle messes the dial big time imo.
Hmm… I get you
Disagree.
Ocean 2 black premium is life
Thanks for sharing that... however I would say "life" is not a proper adjective...
I bought one, love it. It's not a piece of crap , but let's face it folks it's not a Rolex, and treat and beat up like a Rolex. I love mechanical watches, can't stand quartz. While they may be slightly more accurate, they lack the elegance of the mechanical. I saved for two years to buy my first quality watch., A Rolex precision...circa
1950 my birth year. Had it rebuilt and is m pride and joy. I love the Steinhart for a Rolex homage. But don't expec it to wear like a Submariner and take the same punishment. To do so is looking for a fall. My special watch savings acct is slowing increasing for my submariner.
Sorry to be so wordy, enjoy your videos very informative
Jack L
Philly, pa
Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful comment Jack, always good to hear from experience. I like the idea of a "special watch savings account"! Glad you enjoy the videos :)
Brown David Clark Larry Lopez Patricia
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Southerbys Sold one for $218.000 Rolex
'MILSUB' SUBMARINER, REF 5517 STAINLESS STEEL MILITARY WRISTWATCH MADE FOR THE BRITISH ARMED FORCES CIRCA 1978
Estimate 150,000 - 300,000 CHF
LOT SOLD. 218,750 CHF
Excellent - good to know that you can get your hands on the original if you wish! ;)
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Steinhart: cheap piece of crap. Never buy this thing. My broke after 2 years.
Roman Grom what was your opinion of the watch before it broke? 2 years that sucks , just after the warranty wares out it takes a crap 💩 , take it to a jeweler it might be a cheap easy fix it's worth finding out , they're beautiful watches with solid movements
The watch is heavy and built like a tank. It was water resistant. Now it's broken and doesn't move. I'm not going to fix it. I've got the real thing; Rolex Sub. I Will never buy the cheap Rolex like watches again.
Thanks for the comment Roman... I am sorry to hear about your experience. Overall it sounds like there is no issue about the build of the watch, but rather an issue with the movement (?). If so I would say that it's probably not directly to do with Steinhart but that you have been unlucky with the movement - did watch suffer a drop or other shock? The 2824 is an *extremely* widely used movement that has shown reliability over many years, not to mention being used in brands typically selling at many times the price of Steinhart... so in that sense Steinhart is "cheap" in a good way (i.e. they do not have a blown out marketing budget, price markup, profit margin, etc).
Good luck with your watch. I'm sure one day you'll get the one and only Rolex Sub.
Thank you - I do have a recent vintage Sub 16613LN (or at least it's in the possession of my family): ua-cam.com/video/xviMVbvHCWc/v-deo.html
PS. I do like this Steinhart but it isn't mine - it was kindly made available by a local viewer.