Lego Technic Bugatti Chiron 42083 - suspension fix Tutorial!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Want to fix the suspension on the 42083 Bugatti chiron? Here’s a tutorial on how to fix it just by replacing some parts! This tutorial is a upload sequel to my previous review on the reason, now this vid is on how to fix it, a lot of people were confused so here’s a vid to help fix it, enjoy the tutorial!
Parts list for the suspension
For front axle:
6x frictionless tan pins (3 studs long)
3 for the suspension arms and one for the lower control arm that the bottom of the shock connects to.
3 for both of them
Rear axle:
A total of 4 frictionless light bluish grey pins (2 go on both suspension arms)
A total of 2x 5 stud axles and 2 red/grey bushings for the suspension arm (1 on both)
Thanks for using my tutorial. May update this video soon so it’s more clear. Any further questions please leave here in the comments.
Im lost with the lower control arm that the bottom of the shock connects to. Its already tan.?
Egon Schiele yeah. The 5 stud suspension arms supporting the wheel hub
Sorry man, unless i see a pic im not sure about where about is that 5th pin :(
Egon Schiele youll need a 5th tan pin to replace the blue one that connects the SA to the suspension arm
@@jltworks3167 i dont know which one... ive got 2 tan pins for each absorver and then 2 tan pins that replaced the blue ones... i swear i cant see more pins that affect the movement lol
I have this set on order and was aware there’s a suspension problem. I have all the parts you have mention so can hopefully fix it during the build. Great tutorial. Thanks.
Cool! very helpful for those who have the set unfortunately I don't own one...nice job dude :)
Professor Gears thanks man! I also plan to make this motorised as well, maybe I’ll make a video on it too!
@@jltworks3167 Cool can't wait!
@jltworks3167 How well did it work for you... I tried it myself but the motors didn't have enough torque. Tried witba buwizz and xl motors just would not bulge. Same with the servo. Ended up breaking a few parts too.
I just finished this thing and you want me to Reverse the marriage process? *cries!
Shaun Blyth it’s not that difficult to reverse it: ua-cam.com/video/0gZIYEVKnMY/v-deo.html
About fixing the suspension in the front axle is easy, but the rear axle was a real problem, reversing the marriage process made me so painful (took me 3 hours to solve this issue on the rear axle seriously) but the result was worth it :)
just discovered this after completion! An easier but less satisfying fix is to add a yellow shim to the absorbers. You'll need a small screwdriver to carefully remove the absorber parts and spring, then reassemble. It adds a lot more stiffness (which I like), doesn't hurt the range of motion.
Advantage is that it the build appears to have 4 spare yellow shims (don't need to buy them), and removing shocks is easy for front and back.
twogluon think I can see where you’re going with this idea, quite interesting. Though I don’t wanna risk damaging my shocks ;)
But there are 4x2 shocks and only 4 spare yellow parts. Do you apply one yellow part for each axle, so one shock absorber remains the original at each axle? Or you apply all 4 yellow parts to the front axles because the front is weaker?
Can I get a part number for the yellow shims?
Definitely an improvement. Sucked to take it all apart and put it back together, but it was worth it. Thank you
Watching Sariel's video I knew that there was a suspension issue. Glad I found your video, my Bugatti arrives in a couple of days. With this tutorial, I can now make the changes during construction, and not have to disassemble to make corrections. Many thanks! P.S. I also hit the subscribe button.
Tony thank you!
Man I’ve been waiting for this. Thank you! I just need to get the parts
Peter Halden no problem!
Thank-you very much for this video and your work. I have ordered the 6 tan things and will use them when I put together my first Lego since the 8865 I built as a child. Damn, I loved that thing.
Is these required parts are available with the Modlel or we have purchase seperately ?
planning on getting this set soon, so ill try this out. also, it says you need 6 frictionless pins, but i can only see 4 areas that would use them, unless im not looking hard enough.
You’ll need the extra two to place on the lower steering arms that the springs connect to.
mine still sags a lot and im working on a fix. it used to work perfectly too. i may have done something wrong, but my idea is to just put a zip tie inbetween the spring and black pin hole
The result varies a lot 🤔
At the front, there’s excessive use of lift arms causing the front to be heavier than back which would require some reworking of the chassis.
So, I assembled the model using your instructions, and the rear suspension works flawlessly, but the front one still sags. I used two tan pins per side instead of the five you mention, because I could not find all the ones I should have replaced. The black beam looks exactly as it does in the video. Would be great if you could update with more explicit instructions :)
You’ll actually need 6 for the front axle (I didn’t realise I put 5 by mistake 🤦🏻😂)
2 for the suspension arm and the third one for the spring to connect to the arm.
If it still doesn’t work with this change then the only option for it to work is to use rubber bands.
@@jltworks3167 Thanks, will try if I can replace the pin without reassembling the entire thing. Should not be too difficult, the front suspension is hidden behind a few panels and that's it.
@@jltworks3167 So, I checked and it appears that the spring is also connected at both joints with a frictionless pin. No idea why it is still sagging, but it doesn't drag, so I don't mind too much. Maybe I'll reassemble in a month or so and see if I can improve.
Bálint Tóth yeah it’s still a bit weak for me as well. I think it seems to vary on how it’s built
@@jltworks3167 Absolutely. I have seen people in videos whose Chiron was literally dragging the front bumper on the ground, so I still consider myself lucky.
Don’t even have the set..yet… but saving it for when I get it
My problem is that my rear suspension wheels are floppy and idk why!!
What happens if we swap the tan pins with 3 length axle rods?
Multazim Islam axles will do the same thing as the non-friction tan pins, it will make the arm bouncy and responsive. Thanks for using the tutorial :)
Great tips, which I've applied to the front shocks! Could you repost the video about getting access to the rear section?
Dale Rollinson thanks! Here’s the link
ua-cam.com/video/0gZIYEVKnMY/v-deo.html
Great video thank you. Any tips for people who are in the process of building like for example at which steps in the book require the changes to be implemented? I realise this is for already built cars. Thanks again
David Kennedy thanks! It’s easy enough to make the mods during assembly.
@@jltworks3167 thanks will give it a go. Must hunt down those spare parts now....
Could you please upload some pictures showing the location of the five blue pins to replace in the front part? The rear is clear and obvious, but I have problems identifying the front pins. Thanks a lot!
Bálint Tóth remove the front wheels, do you see the two 1x5 suspension arms that move up and down when the suspension works? The blue pins are on the end of the arms attaching to the axle.
If you’re still struggling I can send you pictures via social media if you have any
@@jltworks3167 I am still assembling the model, so I am only looking at the instructions and the video. If you could send me some pics to toth.balint.pte@gmail.com that would be great :)
Thx! Took me some tine but worth't! Still, the range of motion is kind a low.
Adrian Prepelita thanks for using it! Yeah it’s still a bit low but real supercar suspension wouldn’t have that much travel anyway
The rear axle works perfectly now but the front axle is still pretty weak I dont know what to do
Yes that’ll be because of the excessive amount of liftarms on the models front section of the underlayer..you can try connecting a rubber hand on the two lower control arms like on dgustafsson’s Lykan Hypersport.
Thanks for fast reply I will try this out
Very helpful
Thank you so much!
So you need 6 yellow frictionless long pins, 8 grey frictionless short pins, 2 5-unit axles and 2 bushings?
MLG_RAJ Gaming yes
Hi , sorry for english because i am french. Can you confirm to me the list of the pieces ( with quantity) and part numbers please? Thank's a lot for your help
Hello, I just bought my set, in my kit I have ever yellow non-friction on front axle, do you lego made a correction ?
Yes thats fine as long as they are only used on suspension parts
Great video, great explanation! I have a question: is it really essential to separate the transmission with the engine from the front end? Because you could also replace the pins by simply removing part of the panel on the wheel arch, couldn't you? Anyway, definitely a very helpful video!
Jonas Schmidt thank you! Those are attached to the chassis, and the transmission and engine is buried deep inside the rear section. And you’d have to reverse the marriage process to access the rear suspension.
Many thanks!
JLT Works Ok, I didn‘t keep that in mind 😅 But thank you for your quick answer! :)
Can't you just sand down the ridges on the blue friction pin? Maybe it doesn't work like that?
Joe Shit the Rag Man you’re better off swapping the tan pins and blue pins over since it doesn’t take long to change it
In your pinned comment you list "3 for the suspension arms", did you mean 2?
Also, on step 274 all four pins that the shocks connect to are already the tan coloured ones. I don't understand where the third is to go.
Thanks Jay!
Ayush B you’re welcome! Hope it helped!
Thank you !
they fixed it!
So if we fix the front, do we need to do the back?
I'm going to build the 26th December for my birthday and I see alot of vids how the rear suspension is good.
It’s optional really. I’ve found it doesn’t always work for everyone, and I’ve also found why. The front definitely needs the fix, but the back doesn’t have to be done, bearing in mind it’ll require quite a few changes.
Happy early birthday by the way!
@@jltworks3167 Thanks!
0:59 - Great work! Just an information...where could I buy these part? What's it name or its code? Thanks
Thank you! Here’s the link to the part:
www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?id=3441#T=C
@@jltworks3167 grazie!
Great video, thanks for uploading. I’m a bit confused with how many of each part is needed to do all 4 corners. Is there a definitive list or are you able to confirm please?
Richard Keeling
For front axle:
6x frictionless tan pins (3 studs long)
3 for the suspension arms and one for the lower control arm that the bottom of the shock connects to.
3 for both of them
Rear axle:
A total of 4 frictionless light bluish grey pins (2 go on both suspension arms)
A total of 2x 5 stud axles and 2 red/grey bushings for the suspension arm (1 on both)
JLT Works Thank you. Parts ordered.
Doesn’t the rear suspension work already? Why do we need to fix it?
Sam Zong the rear suspension only had small travel because of the stiffness and the bad brake calliper attachment. It did for me anyway
Hey JLT, how long are the axles used for the rear suspension fix? Having trouble telling
Tye Hetherington the axles holding the upper suspension arm? If so, 5 studs long.
I realise this is an old thread. Trying to fix my Bugatti as I build it. The rear suspension does not match your video. I have blue pins on the 5L beams holding on the wheel hub, not cream/yellow ones. Also on the lower 5L beam the other end is held on with 3L grey pin, with castle on one end. You fix seems to need 4x 2L frictionless pins per side (2 for the lower arm & 2 for the caliper), but your parts list only mentioned 4 total. I don't know if Lego made changes to the model over time?
Parts list with codes? To make sure I buy the right stuff, I'm new to this
Do you happen to have a parts # list with quantity that we can go off of and buy?
104turbo Parts list for the suspension
For front axle:
6x frictionless tan pins (3 studs long)
3 for the suspension arms and one for the lower control arm that the bottom of the shock connects to.
3 for both of them
Rear axle:
A total of 4 frictionless light bluish grey pins (2 go on both suspension arms)
A total of 2x 5 stud axles and 2 red/grey bushings for the suspension arm (1 on both)
Thanks for using my tutorial. May update this video soon so it’s more clear. Any further questions please leave here in the comments.
all i gotta say the chiron is my dream car
2:24 can i have the part numbers Please?
Will do this while building. Is 245€ a good price?
Porsche Carrera thanks! And that does seem like a good deal!
Good Vid
I am trying to follow your tips on the vid, however Im already confused... on your video you already have on the rear two tan pins but I checked the instructions booklet and they came in blue... Do I need to replace them as well on the back?
Egon Schiele for the shock absorbers? Yes you need to replace the blue ones with the tan ones for the suspension to be more responsive
Ill start with the front wheels and see how it goes... to dismantle the monster means to start pretty much from scratch
I was confused because in your vid you only replace the front ones and the rear ones are already replaced before u made the modification
Egon Schiele good luck! You can actually reverse the marriage process by pulling out the 2x 9 stud pins in the chassis and remove the 2 5x3 grey L beams behind the seats.
I tried the front and replaced the 4 blue pins for the tan frictionless ones... theres hardly any difference. Not as bouncy as in your video. Not sure if i missed something?
So just do the fix during assembly?
volcom Studs yep. That’s the easiest way ;)
JLT Works So if you do it during assembly you don’t have to reverse the marriage process?
volcom Studs yeah. Do it during assembly. Only reverse the marriage process if you forget to ;)
JLT Works Ok thank you so much
volcom Studs no problem!
Set updated but it didn`t help as much as here on film. Let`s say a 15 % better.
Same experience here. Interestingly the rear suspension works flawlessly using this method.
I’m in the process of building this now but I see you didn’t switch it to one bow...
Can someone name the spots in the instructions because I am totally lost.
Non si capisce cosa si deve fare per modificare le sospensioni, prego mettere più foto
what exact parts and amount of each parts are needed for this
Matt Jayawardena well I haven’t really counted but if I recall:
Front axle: just 4X yellowish non friction pins 3L
Rear axle: 2X 5L axles, 2X light grey bushes, and 4X light grey non friction pins 2L
The way they are used is shown in the video :)
@@jltworks3167 Thank you so much man I really appreciate this.
Matt Jayawardena no problem!
@@jltworks3167 I'm probably missing something basic but I only see 2 non friction pins in the video for the front axle. 1 per side, is there another in the inside we can kinda see hidden further back? Thanks
David Kennedy you need 2 for both sides of the front axle’s suspension arms. And that’s pretty much it, the front suspension is sorted
Tried this, but now the wheels have more unwanted movement front- backwards. So i switched back to original.
Thanks for trying it. I’m not sure why there’s a movement issue, might be the powertrain.
@@jltworks3167 the yellowish ones have more space so the gray bars also have a bit side movement. Its hard to explain by text only
@@KarpervissenDH yes, unless an extra steering rack supports the wheel carriers there’s a bit of movement in the suspension arms, it does work though and is also unbreakable
@@jltworks3167 i saw another video with tie wraps under the springs of the suspension. I think i will also try that to see what works better
@@KarpervissenDH, Have you tried the other method, and which one did you chose ?
Mine has a problem when I turn one of the back wheels one way the other wheel turns the other way and it’s the same problem on he front so mine doesn’t even move all and I don’t know how to fix it. If you have an explanation for that it would be helpful
Adrian Fowler do you mean you turn one rear wheel and the other one turns the opposite direction?
JLT Works yes and it’s the same on the front
Adrian Fowler that’s meant to happen as the 3 gears in the differential enable the front and rear wheels to turn at slightly different speeds to enable smooth steering. If you look underneath you’ll see what I mean :)
JLT Works so what am I supposed to do because my car doesn’t move at all right now?
Adrian Fowler wait I may have misunderstood. When you turn the rear wheels, do the front wheels turn at the opposite direction of the rear wheels? If so then maybe one of the differentials is mounted the wrong way
Thanks for the tutorial. But I wanted to ask if I can just replace those yellow shock absorbers with the red ones with harder springs (similar to the Lamborghini Sian). Would that be enough to solve the issue?
Ok
At least with sagged suspension you can make it very low
haha, that’s true. But still doesn’t perfect
F@@k Lego designers! I don't understand.. They suppose to be professional! Didn't they tried at the end?? How "normal" people can figure out it and they don't.. 😡
Thanks a lot man! 👍
Edit: I have brought it 4 months ago and guess what! My model doesn't have any issue. I checked the pins and are the yellow ones! Seems that Lego fixed them 😜
I`ve looked at this video and it`s rather annoying there are no clear instructions why not do this right at the start before you mounted the rear Axel this would have been far better to understand.
A lot of this information is false, as the blue pins would not cause less response with the springs, and the set has the tan pins on the front in the first place, and it is the weight that is the issue, if you build the set a little bit past the marriage part, and put on the wheels, you can feel that the springs are much bouncier since the car weighs less. Reversing the marriage process also wouldn't do anything, and I shouldn't have to go to another whole video just to finish one single part. It almost seems like this is trying to farm views.
It didnt work :(. Worst 30 minutes ive spent replacing stuff for the exact same response.
The cat snail thing well it should work. Works for me. Does it work even slightly?
Did someone unsubbed you?? Because I checked your subs yesterday and it was 84. Now your subs decreased to 83. That's why.
Joshua Lee it looks like it, I’m not too worried though
Good video, annoying music.
Nice video to avoid a problem before to start the assembly ;-)
I'm going to begin mine and I thank you :-)
What do you think to put a tie rilsan nylon clamp on the shock absorber to have a harder Spring ?
You’re welcome! Harder springs would also work with this model so yes I’d say it’s a good option :)
@@jltworks3167 ok, I'm going to test In any case thank you very much for your alert which will save me time by avoiding a disassembly ;-)