Building a Whitetail Hot Spot: Project 17-Three Years Later - The Management Advantage
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2022
- In our last deer hunting episode, Zach was able harvest a mature buck named Bully on Project 17. Now get a tour of how the farm looks 3 years after the initial habitat project plan was put into place.
It all started as a blank slate production ag piece that Tom designed as a whitetail and wildlife magnet. Hardwood mast producing trees were planted, native warm season grasses were sown, and numerous rotational Pennington food plots were installed in the hopes of improving the farm, the hunting, and the wildlife that call it home. Now here it is three years later and it will only continue to improve from here.
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Love this property project. I'm on the exact same timeline
Great update on project 17 Tom James! Planting trees for future generations is a selfless act.
Thanks for watching!
Was wondering how this turned out. Looking good! Thanks for the update!!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
Most foresters put a band of herbicides (3-4' wide) centered on the planted tree row. The herbicides are typically a post-emergent such as glyphosate to kill perennial grasses which are a major competitor to young trees, and a pre-emergent such as simazine, atrazine, oust or a combo to control the sprouting of seeds such as your sycamore and other fast growing competition. Your over the top treatment of the sycamore appears to have worked well and may have the added benefit of protecting the small oaks from browse damage. Thanks for sharing your experiences and lessons learned!
Thanks for the update! Been following this project from the very beginning.
Thanks for watching!
Great Update Tom, looks like your project 17 is doing excellent, nice work & Congrats!
Many thanks!
excellent update and very successful...keep bringing the updates there is a lot to share and learn...
Looks awesome man!!! Bet you’re tickled to death with the out come!!!! Keep bring the project 17 videos!!! They’re awesome
It's done awesome this first 3 years and the best is yet to come!
Really looking forward to next update
Pretty sure they will come and eat the oaks now if unprotected! Will be interesting to watch! Looks like a interesting project will be watching for the progression!
You could of seeded a light sod of a low aggression perennial grass, mowed that for a season, and then, row planted your seedings. Deer will always browse for lignin, a compound found in woody plants needed for digestion in wild ruminates.
Thanks for the great project update. Love the project layout design. I have trees I need to eliminate. What herbicide(s) did you use on the sycamores?
George, I experimented with a couple options. Basically a gly and brushkiller combination at a 5-6% solution did a great job.
@@tomjames4796 Thank you!
That 3 years went by too fast. Looks great
It did go fast. Excited to see it after the next three years!
Great idea with spraying. Are the deer bedding in your switchgrass?
Yes! more so this year than ever. Looking forward to the response after the first burn this year too.
Takes awhile. I planted several in 2014 that still haven’t produced acorns.
They definitely take time, but worth it in the long run.
Just curious.. we’re you planting the oaks for food eventually when they finally produce an acorn in 100 years or for cover for the deer? Only reason is why I asked is if it is for cover why not leave a row of sycamore’s or just roll with the sycamores? It’s just hard to put time and money into oaks when you never get to see the fruits of them. Thanks for the update. Love this project
The only reason to plant oaks is because you like oaks, the payout isn't worth it.....
Or unless it's for future generations in your family. I might not get to enjoy them but my sons, sons will.
Sawtooth and gobbler oaks do well in 5-10 years. They r an early oak but worth the time is it’s your property
In the original videos of installation and the reasons behind what I chose, I mentioned that the primary reason was that I wanted the brushy field benefit they would provide for years 5-25 or so, with late holding leaves and dense form but that eventually grandkids could realize some return off the timber.
@@tomjames4796 thanks for clarifying! Thank you for the updates. Would love to know your rotation method and why you choose which food in which place!
Can you share what variety of switch grass you used in your warm season grass mix?
Hey Matt, message me on FB and Ill get you some info and rates. Tom
What was your seed rate on beans, peas,brassica per acre and did you top dress with wr later. Thank you
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How many deer bedded in your grass fields ?
Hard to say for sure but they also sure used it for secure movement from the timber to the various plots
@@tomjames4796 but there are deer that bed in there during daylight ?
Why would you want to get rid of switch grass? It's great cover and or screening and just about the only grass that won't lay down.
Did you use the firminator to plant the NWSG ?
No. Not because it can't plant warm season grasses, it definitely can. Tom was trying to avoid as much soil disturbance as possible to limit germination of competitive weeds. You can see the full explanation here: ua-cam.com/video/nx-joSrILgg/v-deo.html
The only thing in deer country that should be planted in rows is corn. In the last 22 years on my 80 acres I planted 30000 thousand trees alll different kinds acceptable for SE Wisconsin. Plant trees in bunches circles or like a drunk guy did it. I like to use the lay of the land also. Low ground tops of hills and water ways. Or along deer trails which is the way they want to travel anyway
How did the giant miscanthus do you planted around the tower blind?
It's good. We'll show it in a future episode. 😉
There are a multitude of reasons for using tree tubes.
A major reason is to design a tree that does not grow limbs low. All that low ectopic limb growth is wasted undesirable growth.
You should have spent the same money using fewer trees planted properly with staked tree tubes.
Best wishes.
Not a fan of this video looks like a lot of the switchgrass was already laying down and the food plot mixing the brassica with cereal grain is a bad idea not a fan of planting oaks in rows either
You think that's hunting?? Public ground is hunting,
That’s a pretty dumb comment nothing more enjoyable than enjoying the fruits of your labor
Takes a lot of hard work to get a project like that going and many years of taking care of it. There’s a lot of reward in somthing like this.