I find all the videos are as clear as mud it’s over explained it needs a description of the anatomy and then simply the best place to put the injection I would have struggled if I was taught like this
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This is so helpful. Question: When you do the brow lift I've noticed that a crease forms within that triangle where the muscle is lifting causing a crease above the brow. Is there a way to fix or avoid this?
If that area is left untreated wouldn’t that area be over working causing a bulging on top of the eyebrow? Everything else is frozen but that area- leaving it to have lines and more wrinkling when the eyebrow naturally moves. I find if I add one unit of Botox right in the middle of the triangular area you drew it helps with that specific issue and then also one unit at the inner corner (directly underneath) of the eyebrow for lift. Those two counter acting one another creating a more softer naturally lifted eyebrow.
Hi I'm a customer not a practitioner I have hooded eyes and I've had botox a few times for forehead lines but each time I get a brow droop which looks awful. I'm not sure where it should be injected as I'm not medically trained but this time I had a surgeon/ consultant do my botox and I've still got brow droop/ heavy brows which makes me look tired ( please help) I'm fed up with paying for expensive treatments that dont work 🙈 where would it need to be injected to put this right??? Thx
I'm not know if I'm missing this but to create a eye lift you should not injected in the area of the tribe area.you should inject to the left of the triangle? if that is correct I think a lot of people are missing the technique is not to inject over the eye to get the lift. And injecting to the left the triangular line towards the center of the forehead will give the lift.so basically there is no injection spot so to speak to lift the eye. You should just avoid doing in the triangular. Please let me know if this is the correct understanding
How do you treat the tail of the glabellar without entering the untreated area of the frontalis in the triangle that should not get botox? This has been bugging me for a long time. Great video BTW! Thank you!
Thank u so much for the explanation. But by leaving this triangle untreated with botox causes somtimes wrinkles above the lateral eyebrow (coma), how can I avoid this
Thank you for the video very interesting and love the geometry, makes very good sense. I appreciate that injecting into the supralateral aspect of the orbicularis occuli can increase the risk of ptosis and even inability to close the eye (major problem) but do you ever do this to enhance the lift and if so have you noticed forehead lines within the triangle due to unopposed pull of frontalis? Thanks in advance.
That was the most helpful video i seen so far! Thank you so much! Would you explain how many units you would place and why? Also placement of gummy lines, crows feet and eye lift?
This is such a great video!! Thank you! The triangle that your talking about that should not be injected is that just referring to the frontalis? ie. The lateral corrugator injections are recommended to still treat even if it falls into the no injection triangle zone correct?
The focus of this video is deciding where not to inject. The middle part of the forehead medial to the two triangles and above the horizontal line is safe to inject, probably about 8-10 units evenly spread out.
Neha Shah this area of muscle supports the medial brow. Inject here and your risk of a medial brow ptosis increases significantly. Makes you look slightly cross or tired.
boy is that confusing?! perhaps you should just concentrate on WHERE TO INJECT. I would darken the area Not to be injected or put angular lines through it and brighten the area where you should inject. " No injection" and "Inject here" or something like that. Looks like you have three or four boxes Outside the box or inside the box, below the line or above the line, inside the triangle or outside the triangle. huh?
Sorry, that's confusing for you, it's aimed at people who have done training with us already, and in that context makes more sense. However, the biggest skill in the forehead is knowing where NOT to inject because of that's what causes all the problems. The space left in the middle of the forehead is safe to inject. I cover markings in detail on my elearning course at Drtimpearce.com.
Yes, that's why I remarked, "it's confusing", non-professionals watching the demonstration may try injecting and get the areas confused. Therefore, it may be prudent to mark areas NOT TO BE INJECTED so it is clearly understood as a courtesy and a caution preventing adverse affects.
Right, but the middle space doesnt lift the brow. Where should inject in I want to lift the highest point of the brow where is the triangle or if I want to lift the end of the tail, please! Thank you!
Can I send you a photo of myself for your opinion? I've had several injectors that can not get my eyebrows even. The one that did actually injected below my eyebrow which I assume is an advanced technique.
Why on earth am I watching this in 2021... with one spock brow and one hanging down?? I paid a bunch of money to look like an ogre after being stuck at home for over a year. I could deal with a mess up on one, but opposite mess ups on both is just too much. I actually have pain in the one that is hanging. I suppose I should have checked the actual dates on my doc's certificates. Argh.
I would say a doctor or an intelligent, well trained esthetician. The anatomy I learned in nursing school didn't go in to any in-depth training on facial anatomy. Estheticians are trained specifically on this. In some states they are allowed to inject under a doctor's (so-called) supervision.
I wish you would just go ahead and show/mark where the injection site should be instead of where you shouldn't and what that muscle is gonna do and what this muscle gonna do..
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I find all the videos are as clear as mud it’s over explained it needs a description of the anatomy and then simply the best place to put the injection I would have struggled if I was taught like this
I thought it was clear and informative. Perhaps not for a lay person.
I love this video! It’s been the most helpful and I’ve gotten great brow lifts with this technique
There is a new video relevant to these concepts available here: ua-cam.com/video/UwZz___AVoY/v-deo.html
Can you place your dots where the injections would need to be instead of the triangle?
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This is so helpful. Question: When you do the brow lift I've noticed that a crease forms within that triangle where the muscle is lifting causing a crease above the brow. Is there a way to fix or avoid this?
Thank you! This is very helpful and I will apply this moving forward. I'd love to see something more on avoiding spock and correcting a spock.
Very helpful! Thank you for the clear explanation, please post more content like this !
Thank you for this video. Can you please show dots of where you should inject?
If that area is left untreated wouldn’t that area be over working causing a bulging on top of the eyebrow? Everything else is frozen but that area- leaving it to have lines and more wrinkling when the eyebrow naturally moves. I find if I add one unit of Botox right in the middle of the triangular area you drew it helps with that specific issue and then also one unit at the inner corner (directly underneath) of the eyebrow for lift. Those two counter acting one another creating a more softer naturally lifted eyebrow.
Confusing
can you show where the injection sites should be with a marker or your computer?
I asked the same thing because it's still a bit confusing. No answer
I know it’s to much and in the end he just made a triangle I get it but still like why so technical all the time
Hi I'm a customer not a practitioner I have hooded eyes and I've had botox a few times for forehead lines but each time I get a brow droop which looks awful.
I'm not sure where it should be injected as I'm not medically trained but this time I had a surgeon/ consultant do my botox and I've still got brow droop/ heavy brows which makes me look tired ( please help) I'm fed up with paying for expensive treatments that dont work 🙈 where would it need to be injected to put this right??? Thx
I'm not know if I'm missing this but to create a eye lift you should not injected in the area of the tribe area.you should inject to the left of the triangle? if that is correct I think a lot of people are missing the technique is not to inject over the eye to get the lift. And injecting to the left the triangular line towards the center of the forehead will give the lift.so basically there is no injection spot so to speak to lift the eye. You should just avoid doing in the triangular. Please let me know if this is the correct understanding
How do you treat the tail of the glabellar without entering the untreated area of the frontalis in the triangle that should not get botox? This has been bugging me for a long time. Great video BTW! Thank you!
Worst explanation ever without pointing to the muscles.and mechanism of action
Checkout this video which I think explains similar concepts in a better way: ua-cam.com/video/UwZz___AVoY/v-deo.html
Very helpful. Thanks
Can you place the dots please.
Thank u so much for the explanation.
But by leaving this triangle untreated with botox causes somtimes wrinkles above the lateral eyebrow (coma), how can I avoid this
As a newer injector, thank you. I love theories of beauty and practical applications.
What if you want to treat the glabella ánd have an eyebrow lift? For the tale of the corrigator you do need to inject in the triange right...
It still isn't clear where the injections go!
Agreed.. but he can’t take constructive criticism.. The video remains the same.. Pity!
I know right. Duh
@@eclaire1 Yes he said keep asking questions and then nothing. lol
The video portion did not work for me.
EXCELLENT Explanation, very logical! Great job!
How to draw the traingle if a patient had a high eyebrow tattoo? What are the land marks
Thank you for the video very interesting and love the geometry, makes very good sense. I appreciate that injecting into the supralateral aspect of the orbicularis occuli can increase the risk of ptosis and even inability to close the eye (major problem) but do you ever do this to enhance the lift and if so have you noticed forehead lines within the triangle due to unopposed pull of frontalis? Thanks in advance.
So where do you inject to get the eyebrows lifted? Thanks
That was the most helpful video i seen so far! Thank you so much! Would you explain how many units you would place and why? Also placement of gummy lines, crows feet and eye lift?
So one injection on every tip of the triangles equaling 3? Sorry, I just need to confirm
Can I ask, for a hooded eyelid, or down turned eye, can you still inject the same way to get the greatest lift?
Can you do a video on mic brow lift to accentuate an arched eyebrow look not the lateral fox lift :?
Very clear explanation! Appreciate your effort.
I think it confused some of the folks here coz this requires some understanding of the basics.
What if you don't have eyebrows out to the outer part because they are thinner?
How do you treat the people that have frontalis wrinkles all the way across the forehead AND lift the brow?
Helpfull indeed 🙏🙏🙏, many Are doing it wrong, Im going to have my "botox-person"take a look at this 👍 thanke u😘
But why am I getting a super heavy look in my medial brow areas?
so right and left of even vector?
I'm sorry but that is a poor example to demonstrate a proper eyebrow. You didn't even draw a sraight line, you bent it slightly, at 00:57.
So where do you inject exactly?
This is such a great video!! Thank you! The triangle that your talking about that should not be injected is that just referring to the frontalis? ie. The lateral corrugator injections are recommended to still treat even if it falls into the no injection triangle zone correct?
Can you please explain this to me I didn't understand where the injection sites should be.
The focus of this video is deciding where not to inject. The middle part of the forehead medial to the two triangles and above the horizontal line is safe to inject, probably about 8-10 units evenly spread out.
You drew a box in the middle, why would you not inject there? Is it to allow you still to "lift"?
Neha Shah this area of muscle supports the medial brow. Inject here and your risk of a medial brow ptosis increases significantly. Makes you look slightly cross or tired.
Karrie Glasgow, the trail of the corrugator should not be injected because it will interfere in the lift of the brow.
It would be so much better if you please just made things little simpler and shown on a model or atleast marked the areas this is and explained thanks
I’ve seen a lot of videos on brow lifts by injecting directly into brow or lateral to the tail - is this something you don’t advocate?
I did a treatment and one of the eyebrows lifted very nice but the other other didn't , you say I shouldn't inject within the triangule?
boy is that confusing?! perhaps you should just concentrate on WHERE TO INJECT. I would darken the area Not to be injected or put angular lines through it and brighten the area where you should inject. " No injection" and "Inject here" or something like that. Looks like you have three or four boxes Outside the box or inside the box, below the line or above the line, inside the triangle or outside the triangle. huh?
Sorry, that's confusing for you, it's aimed at people who have done training with us already, and in that context makes more sense. However, the biggest skill in the forehead is knowing where NOT to inject because of that's what causes all the problems. The space left in the middle of the forehead is safe to inject. I cover markings in detail on my elearning course at Drtimpearce.com.
Yes, that's why I remarked, "it's confusing", non-professionals watching the demonstration may try injecting and get the areas confused. Therefore, it may be prudent to mark areas NOT TO BE INJECTED so it is clearly understood as a courtesy and a caution preventing adverse affects.
I understood it completely. On another note, do you always speak to Doctors in this manner?
Right, but the middle space doesnt lift the brow. Where should inject in I want to lift the highest point of the brow where is the triangle or if I want to lift the end of the tail, please! Thank you!
Gina Gherase not injecting in the no inject triangle lifts the brow. Be careful lifting the tail of a brow....
Can I send you a photo of myself for your opinion? I've had several injectors that can not get my eyebrows even. The one that did actually injected below my eyebrow which I assume is an advanced technique.
So, are u saying the 3 points of injections INCLUDE the top of the triangle near hairline??
super helpful
Why on earth am I watching this in 2021... with one spock brow and one hanging down?? I paid a bunch of money to look like an ogre after being stuck at home for over a year. I could deal with a mess up on one, but opposite mess ups on both is just too much. I actually have pain in the one that is hanging. I suppose I should have checked the actual dates on my doc's certificates. Argh.
It is so important to have an MD or nurse do the injections to try and make sure that you don't end up with any unwanted facial drooping 💖
I would say a doctor or an intelligent, well trained esthetician. The anatomy I learned in nursing school didn't go in to any in-depth training on facial anatomy. Estheticians are trained specifically on this. In some states they are allowed to inject under a doctor's (so-called) supervision.
I would add a Doctor that knows what they are doing. I had botox done by a Doctor and end up with droopy eye for 5 month
In order to get a good eye brow lift is it necessary to inject on both sides of the triangle?
Inject medial to both triangles- the middle of the forehead only in the space that remains.
It is very confusing, I want to lift eyebrows .....
I wish you would just go ahead and show/mark where the injection site should be instead of where you shouldn't and what that muscle is gonna do and what this muscle gonna do..
so i got botox and now have sagging or hooded brows in my middle or in between the eyebrows sagging causing hooded on inner eye only . Is this fixable
Lynette Beattie same im so fucking upset omg
Dod it go away??
Great video thank you
Huh?? Good grief! Is it just me? Your drawing and then erasing to many lines.. A confusing teaching video.
That was a terrible explanation?
Very bad explanation makes more confusion to eye and brain and I'm medical student 🙃.