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Just received my Norco Sight A1, similar geometry, can confirm that a steeper seatpost is an absolute game changer on climbs. I came off a Trek Slash that climbed like a brick. The current trend of steep seat posts and slack head tube is an amazing change for mountain bikes moving forward. I know a lot of people don't care about climbing on enduro bikes but if a bike makes a climb easier and more comfortable, that can potentially get you another lap on your favourite mountain, and not feel crushed.
I just came from 2 other youtube MTB sites on same bike. Really stood bare what stark differences are between them. Vitals reviewers know what they are talking about, and cut thru to what matters to the specific customer for a product then deliver the data that that person is looking for. "No BS "is overused but honestly that is what stands out - we get BSed to death on most other reviewer sites, actually all of them for most part - except for you guys. Thanks
I've watched this review over and over as I waited for my 141 frame to arrive. Mine is the P1 size with 27.5 wheels so less of a monster truck, but still most of the review stands true. What I didn't see getting mentioned as much is the weight. Built with workhorse components results in a pretty heavy bike, as the frame itself carries a bit of extra metal. That said, it is an amazing climber and shines in both technical sections and all day big mountain missions. Where it doesn't excell is undulating trails and maxed out PR efforts. There a lighter bike will certainly have the edge and will give you more reward for your input. I'm on a Magic Mary/Big Betty combo though, so there is some exra drag due to tyre choice. I will try a faster rolling rear at some point. On the descends it's great and way more agile than the geo and weight suggest. Give it some steep flow and the bike simply disappears under you. Very easy to hop from one line to another, very stable in the air and great overall fun. Tight corners need some adjustment if you're coming from a shorter bike though (I am). It's great on natural trails as well, until things get too rough and too fast, where more travel would work in the rider's favour. I ended up with an almost slammed cockpit as it definitely asks for a forward riding position when descending. Overall it's a great AM bike, perfect for exploring new territory and dropping in unknown trails, as you know it will cope with almost anything that comes up. I feel the term "trailbike" is a little light for the 141, as the enduro genes are more prevalent in it's DNA. Great "real world" bike and great review.
I bought a ripmo and i can tell you it rips. But you need to grease up the ott on the dvo fork cause it's annoyingly loud. Other than that, feels great.
This ibis was more wheel travel but a more contemporary geo. Don’t mean you can’t ride it quick down the hill, you can. But yeah even for more travel it’s a dw link which are great for climbing
The explanation is rather long, but in short, not all rotors will work with metallic pads. Typically, riders will find this to be true at the lower-price end of the spectrum.
@@vitalmtb and what _is_ the reason? is it the lower eigenfrequency of the less stiff one-peace steel disc, because wich the disc is starting to oscillate under medium to hard braking (especially in the rear)?
Because of the shorter travel than your typical enduro bike, the 141 felt more efficient and eager to get up the more technical bits of climbs. We were a bit surprised by how well the bike wore its weight. We believe this is because the heft is in the frame and components. Our wheels/tires/cassette are all in the average range and that's where riders tend to really feel the heavy bits.
@@vitalmtb thank you for answer, but on long fireroad or asphalt climbs weight could be more important than suspension travel. especially when you can lock out rear suspension. i would like a bike that pedals better than my full enduro but most of my climbs are asphalt or gravel road
I have the 161 and I can only say that I'm still baffled that such a heavy bike can climb way better than any other even remotely similar bike I have tried. A proper XC bike will probably be faster uphill, but they definitely beat way beyond their weight class. My old bike weighed 2 kg less and was slower up any hill. My guess from my experience with the 161 is that it will probably be better a lot better uphill than most enduro bikes.
I ride a Geometron G1, and can still goofe off, but as with all new bikes you need to get used to the timing, balance points, so have to work on that. A big heavy enduro bike can feel heavy and unwilling to throw in air, but you can evtually do it, same wih bunny hops and more. But privateer seems like a well contruc9bikr with good geometry.
Yep, I agree totally. It will never feel like a BMX, but you definitely get used to a big Enduro bike and will eventually be able to do every manoeuvre just as well as on a smaller bike.
We were sharing the feedback from our viewers regarding the custom build video. There is a net weight loss in those changes but it is negligible. To each their own!
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Video Contents
0:00 - Introduction
1:00 - Bike Build and Parts
1:57 - Bike Setup
2:55 - Privateer 141 Geometry
3:36 - Climbing Performance
4:24 - Downhill Performance
5:33 - Suspension Performance
6:30 - Is the Privateer Noisy?
6:59 - Privateer 141 Weaknesses
7:59 - How Would We Change Our Build?
8:47 - Bottom Line
Can we just all agree at how good this bike looks with its clean lines and sharp angles?
We agree!
Just received my Norco Sight A1, similar geometry, can confirm that a steeper seatpost is an absolute game changer on climbs. I came off a Trek Slash that climbed like a brick. The current trend of steep seat posts and slack head tube is an amazing change for mountain bikes moving forward. I know a lot of people don't care about climbing on enduro bikes but if a bike makes a climb easier and more comfortable, that can potentially get you another lap on your favourite mountain, and not feel crushed.
I just came from 2 other youtube MTB sites on same bike. Really stood bare what stark differences are between them. Vitals reviewers know what they are talking about, and cut thru to what matters to the specific customer for a product then deliver the data that that person is looking for. "No BS "is overused but honestly that is what stands out - we get BSed to death on most other reviewer sites, actually all of them for most part - except for you guys. Thanks
glad you appreciated the review!
Really stoked with this review. I ordered this bike a while ago in a full build, very happy with my decision now. Keep up the good content 🤘
I've watched this review over and over as I waited for my 141 frame to arrive. Mine is the P1 size with 27.5 wheels so less of a monster truck, but still most of the review stands true. What I didn't see getting mentioned as much is the weight. Built with workhorse components results in a pretty heavy bike, as the frame itself carries a bit of extra metal. That said, it is an amazing climber and shines in both technical sections and all day big mountain missions. Where it doesn't excell is undulating trails and maxed out PR efforts. There a lighter bike will certainly have the edge and will give you more reward for your input. I'm on a Magic Mary/Big Betty combo though, so there is some exra drag due to tyre choice. I will try a faster rolling rear at some point. On the descends it's great and way more agile than the geo and weight suggest. Give it some steep flow and the bike simply disappears under you. Very easy to hop from one line to another, very stable in the air and great overall fun. Tight corners need some adjustment if you're coming from a shorter bike though (I am). It's great on natural trails as well, until things get too rough and too fast, where more travel would work in the rider's favour. I ended up with an almost slammed cockpit as it definitely asks for a forward riding position when descending. Overall it's a great AM bike, perfect for exploring new territory and dropping in unknown trails, as you know it will cope with almost anything that comes up. I feel the term "trailbike" is a little light for the 141, as the enduro genes are more prevalent in it's DNA. Great "real world" bike and great review.
Mine is on order. Can't wait!
Nice one Garry! I like the synthetic of building a bike thru a certain prism; Ben franklins “a penny saved is a penny earnt”
The first time I saw this kind of bike, It looks amazing.
Nice review, hows it compared the ibis ripmo Af? They seem compatible if your looking in the all mountain bike category. Thanks
The ibis climbs way better
Totally different bikes.
I bought a ripmo and i can tell you it rips. But you need to grease up the ott on the dvo fork cause it's annoyingly loud. Other than that, feels great.
This ibis was more wheel travel but a more contemporary geo. Don’t mean you can’t ride it quick down the hill, you can. But yeah even for more travel it’s a dw link which are great for climbing
It is more all-mountain bike than trail bike. But who cares, great video, great bike !
Ride on!
4:53 close call
VERY NICE YOUR BIKE........BRAZIL HERE
What did it weight?
Privateer, please make a jib frame, a combination between a trail bike and a slopestyle frame. I don't know of any brand that do that.
RAAW do that
@@charpayn1915 Missed that one, looks like nice bike, but, it's 29". It works, but 27.5 is nicer for that kinda bike.
santa cruz 5010 i guess
@@afonsocorreia4433 yep, nice bike, expensive frame.
@@dantindley5181 yeah that was the one, but, only 10 will be made and it's also expensive.
Great insight
Super Beitrag
why cant you use metallic pads on a normal rotor?!
The explanation is rather long, but in short, not all rotors will work with metallic pads. Typically, riders will find this to be true at the lower-price end of the spectrum.
@@vitalmtb and what _is_ the reason?
is it the lower eigenfrequency of the less stiff one-peace steel disc, because wich the disc is starting to oscillate under medium to hard braking (especially in the rear)?
Why did I put in an order yesterday!? I'll just win the damn thing!
How much much better is this bike for long uphills compared to full enduro bikes? Especially because it is heavier than some full enduro bikes
Because of the shorter travel than your typical enduro bike, the 141 felt more efficient and eager to get up the more technical bits of climbs. We were a bit surprised by how well the bike wore its weight. We believe this is because the heft is in the frame and components. Our wheels/tires/cassette are all in the average range and that's where riders tend to really feel the heavy bits.
@@vitalmtb thank you for answer, but on long fireroad or asphalt climbs weight could be more important than suspension travel. especially when you can lock out rear suspension. i would like a bike that pedals better than my full enduro but most of my climbs are asphalt or gravel road
I have the 161 and I can only say that I'm still baffled that such a heavy bike can climb way better than any other even remotely similar bike I have tried. A proper XC bike will probably be faster uphill, but they definitely beat way beyond their weight class. My old bike weighed 2 kg less and was slower up any hill.
My guess from my experience with the 161 is that it will probably be better a lot better uphill than most enduro bikes.
Anyone ever over forked to 160 on the 141?
Would love to see this compared to the Bird Cycleworks AM9.
What trail is that
I ride a Geometron G1, and can still goofe off, but as with all new bikes you need to get used to the timing, balance points, so have to work on that. A big heavy enduro bike can feel heavy and unwilling to throw in air, but you can evtually do it, same wih bunny hops and more. But privateer seems like a well contruc9bikr with good geometry.
I swear you comment on every mtb video on this platform
Yep, I agree totally. It will never feel like a BMX, but you definitely get used to a big Enduro bike and will eventually be able to do every manoeuvre just as well as on a smaller bike.
8:14 so heavier casette (unsprung mass) vs lighter cranks (sprung mass)? BS
We were sharing the feedback from our viewers regarding the custom build video. There is a net weight loss in those changes but it is negligible. To each their own!
Sounds like and heavy hitting enduro to me 🤔