Penn Plaza Redeveloped: Exclusive First Look at The PENN District
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Rosanna Scotto has an exclusive first look at the re-imagined Penn Plaza, which developer Vornado Realty Trust is calling The PENN District. The massive yearslong project includes new construction and significant renovations of existing buildings, which will transform the office, retail, and transportation areas in and around Penn Station and Madison Square Garden
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I think this should be covered in a video by The B1M. It would offer a great insight into the NYC transportation overhaul currently going on and the engineering challenges they are facing.
B1M is the best
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
I thought it was a BM1 video for a second!
Yes
The B1M would absolutely hae a great video on this
Just imagine if the original Penn Station was still there with this new development.
Rebuilding it, or something similar is still one of the proposals, but that can’t happen till Madison square garden is gone
@@rpvitiello Isn't that what the old Post Office is supposed to be?
Based on the beautiful work they’ve done with Moynihan, and in Penn Station as section by section is revealed, I’m far more impressed and excited than I was a few years ago when this was announced.
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
@yuzuki7531 totally agree it's nice but bland
@@yuzuki7531 bruh why doesn’t everything have to be a comparison? Yeah we get it Tokyos awesome. This ain’t a mall. It’s a public plaza. And it’s an artist rendering not the actual product. The entirety of Manhattan is a big mall what more do you want lol.
I know it's probably more expensive, but I really want to see neo classical architecture like old penn station to make a comeback
neo neo classical if you will
I like that they're shutting down a street for pedestrian use! And the greenery. I like that they're trying new things to improve quality of life for the tenants.
That said, I'll always love the stone & brick architecture of older buildings vs the more modern glass look.
I like it, should've been 31st street though, my preferred parking garage was a straight shot off the West Side Highway on 33rd, haha.
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
Agreed. No originality, no creativity, no beauty, respect for history, or the passerby
OFFICE TENANTS.
Thanks to groups like Vorando, no working class people can afford to live in Manhattan south of 120th street
@@RealGJZig So?
You never develop anything just because not everyone can afford it?
Looks great, but the city MUST do something about the hundreds of homeless people that hang around the station. Nobody will want to be around this area if it's going to be trashed all over again within a few months.
No problem we can replace them with a million illegal immigrants dying to live in NYC. Nobody is around to help OUR homeless we're so worried about helping illegals, that and Section 8 people.
@@lisab.1595Nobody? We’re spending over $30,000 per year per homeless person.
People are already in this area. They were around this area when it was worse than this.
Answer is simple - affordable housing
They forgot to mention that
Almost one billion in tax breaks for Vornado, to build a luxury experience for people that don't even live in NYC, while NJT tunnels and tracks are decaying and service is the worse it has been.
Excited to use this for the first time in 2094!!!
Almost no mention of changes being made within the station.
He really wants to get the message out to "tenants" judging by the number of times he referred to them.
they need big tenants with deep pockets, i guess there are some.
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
Tenants are at risk for suicide these days, jumping out of 20 story windows...he wants ti make it easier for them to clear their heads if need be :)
Thank you so much Fox 5 for this coverage. I am born and raised a New Yorkah immersed in our unique openess to hippness in design and rethinking freshness in all aspects. Fox has embraced this in informative news programming that is cutting edge
LOLOLOL!!!! MAGA t much? This project is a DISASTER! Fox is sucking the developer's tete who is sucking the taxpayer's tete. Typical gullible repuke, wake up!
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
@@yuzuki7531 I know Japan has awesome futurist
I hope to check it out
Happy New Year
All the people projected in the video look young, smartly dressed and slim, have they seen the NY crowds in real life?
Nice to see some work being done on that building. My office was on the second floor looking at the hotel. Old red carpet, I could hear people fighting outside and the taxi’s honking. Fortunately I spent most of my time at the job site (WTC) and only went to the office for paperwork and research. I have been back to the area in March 2024 and July 2023, so much construction, can hardly wait to see the finished product
i can't wait to get back and see/ experience this 😁
Yeah that area does need a serious overhaul and upgrades
Will be nice until they finally tear down MSG and rebuild the station that should have never been torn down.
So much for this idea.
This is nothing but lipstick on a pig. Doesn’t do anything to fix the structural problems with tunnels and tracks that impact commuters. MSG is still there and all this adds is more space for wealthy tenants.
Nice box going up. That glass one, the one that is in the video... you see it? That's the box i'm talking about.. Great box.
No! Rebuild the original Penn Station!
It looks fine, but the original penn station is untouchable in design. I wish it was never destory.
Same
@@kevlo7624 the new station should look like a beach
I worked at 2 Penn Plaza in 1995 for Cosentini Engineering Associates.
Wow amazing project New York city
Will the present MSGarden be torn down?
I don't give a fuck what they do, I still miss the original Penn Station.
Tearing down Hotel Pennsylvania is architectural terrorism.
Nobody was willing to buy and use it- small rooms, can’t be converted to anything except maybe ultra luxury housing, if that. It is basically a doorstop
@@PhillipAnselRitzOk, then be respectful of NYC and build a huge art deco skyscraper with a spire. Something that isn't bland.
I have to admit that the renderings are very beautiful and tasteful. The old Penn Station complex was constantly permeated with the smell of homeless people. Imagine all these meticulously crafted outdoor spaces are dotted with homeless people.
All this sounds nice - I just hope they don’t overlook the maintenance of these spaces. That area in particular has always been exceptionally dirty even by New York standards. I really hope they hire enough workers to help maintain and clean the new public spaces.
Also, I can’t help but to think this is going to be even more of an attraction for all the homeless people & beggars, umbrella sales people & random Knick-knack sales people that already use the front of MSG as their home base.
It’s not that I don’t have sympathy for them, It’s just I can clearly see that it’d be more of an attraction.
Nah... Why hire your own people when you can contract it to the lowest bidder & end up getting garbage work.
Screw all that, rebuild original penn station exactly as it was
Why is he demolishing Penn Hotel? It’s a landmark and if restored, could be the grandest of old hotels in NYC.
These guys are just interested in maximizing their lots with sky high glass boxes. This would never happen in Europe
It sad to see the hotel Penn be removed. It use to be Hallmark of the area. But I guess new is better😢
New is not always better. Sometimes renovated is better.
@@yuridouche6195 in this case, it should have been the only option. Especially since the same people who built the Penn station that they destroyed built this hotel. Believe me! IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE! ESPECIALLY SINCE NOW WE HAVE A HISTORICAL BUILDINGS LAW THAT CAME OUT OF BULLDOZING PENN STATION TO PREVENT SUCH OCCURANCES.
@@qolspony I agree 100%! It's a shame.
yea it's quite honestly depressing that a unique lookin' & historical building has to be destroyed/wiped-out even doe i never visited that building when i was lived in the NYC tri-state area.
It still doesn't fix Penn Station...
Ngl this video is amazing. Love the redesigns of Penn Station and adding tenets to this district. Although new Penn Station is no where near as good as the original Penn, it is still going to be a state of the art station. Gl on the rest of this project!
Move on... leave those types of buildings to Europe. Lol
@@zqpcydbfoqbdiehdj What? What is this supposed to even mean? Which buildings, original Penn? And why should they be left to Europe?
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
@@cthomas025 old Penn. Who needs that? We already have Grand Central Terminal and the brand new Moynihan Train Hall. New York does it on its way... we are meant to build bigger and taller & innovate. 😁👌
@@zqpcydbfoqbdiehdj said like someone who is condemned to repeat the mistakes of the past.
I really hope they eventually restore the old Penn station because the new one looks stuffy and enclosed and yeah sure there’s a new Moynihan train hall, New Jersey transit
I've been commuting in and out of Penn Station for 40+ years. I really don't a give a shit about any of this. Give me affordable Rossas pizza slice and a beer for my train ride!!
NY will become future city 🎉
alternative proposal is vastly superior in every way
AmazinG! In a city like Miami that would take a decade minimum. NY #1 👑
Can’t wait, looks amazing! They need to rebuild Penn Station also
They can't do it until MSG moves due to some columns that are blocking expansion.
They are the inside has been gutted as well
Nah MSG is here to stay
@@shalonsmith3653 Not down in the tracks, whatever gets done in Penn Station will only be superficial and not expand capacity.
@@andrewasciutto1420 It has been moved before, Dolans shouldn't hold commuters hostage for their sucky teams anyway.
This is awesome!!!
That's dope but they should develop more unique sidewalks, roads et-cetra. 💯 ✅
Nothing compares to the original Penn Station. MSG needs to be given the same treatment and demolished once its lease is up, and the grand old station should be rebuilt as it was. Also very sad that Hotel Penn was not saved, what an egregious waste of good architecture.
nah MSG is not going anywhere
The old Penn Station is not going to happen.
Love how our city is changing
Great job
Random question! It’s almost universally agreed the destruction of the original Penn Station head house was an architectural travesty. Having said that is it possible to redo and expand Penn Station while keeping MSG in tact? Cause it looks like the Dolan family are keen to keeping it where it is AND for those going to events at the Garden it is incredibly convenient to have one of the busiest transit hubs in the world steps away from your seat.
Sorry. The almighty dollar wins again
how many businesses where closed by these closure
Why don't they just demo the whole thing and restore Penn Station as it was years ago period!!!!!!!
new yorkers are still butthurt about the demo of penn station. and rightly so, i'm with them
I cant wait this is amazing
Looks not bad… BUT TOKYOS MALLS ARE NEXT LEVEL. 🇯🇵✨
Homeless are getting an upgrade for their home!
They should knock it and the Garden down and rebuild Penn Station.
Where is this place because I want to see what I will look like😊
Wait! Did someone say that 33rd street is closed permanent? Wow! Someone has a lot of pull!
It's been closed for years. They just never did anything with it. Now they want to make a green space there. Whatever.
The problem is that there never seems to be any money to take care of the new stuff they build.
All you need to do to finish is to take out the trash in the floor.
More modern junk design. I’m depressed just thinking about it. Bring back beautiful classical architecture.
This thing just got shelved because the commercial real estate market
Excellent view for the future,
Matatan ® Ribirin HS
While tons of homeless addicts and folk slept in the streets during this brutally cold weather GTFOH 😳
another glass structure that uses more electricity because of constant AC, while the design is nice, and I wont lie, love the idea that there is a street that will be made walkable, I dont think It helps the capacity for the train station, nor will it serve for the everyday middle class working citizen of new york. this is just another project that was lobbied so that a newer improved pennstation would not evict madison Square garden... this is just sad.
It's so much better to add then take away especially considering the affordable housing crisis in NYC. That new JP Morgan headquarters building demolished a perfectly good huge building to be built, it makes no sense. Cool design.
when is the project supposed to be completed?
Never
Nice. Saving me all the trips Miami.
WITH OUR BOEING tranceways system
Now they need to demolish Madison Square Garden, and rebuild it. Really shows it age and outdated.
I will vote against Penn South
MSG should be moved, it is blocking the capabilities of Penn Station to be expanded, the Dolan family refuses to help the city, MSG is not that important and it has been moved already in the past.
We need this type of development in all mass transit projects, this is how great cities like Hong Kong, Tokyo, and other great rail and subway cities do their mass transit projects.
THIS IS EXCITING BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT OUR TRAFFIC AND OUR CARS INSTEAD OF THESE BUILDING THAT ARE NOT IMPORTANT. WHERE ARE ALL THESE CARS GOING TO GO !! CARS ARE MULTIPLYING LIKE PEOPLE AND ITS REALLY JUST GETTING OVERCROWDED NOW.
NYC is run by the Jews. That's why it's an amazing city.
Correct 💯
They should force Madison Square Garden out and rebuild the original Penn Station.
Maybe they work on fixing their train railways
I’ve lived in Manhattan over 22 years. Look at the renditions of future buildings and plazas them check it out once in use: full of homeless, junkies and tacky, overweight tourists. Don’t let the fancy pictures fool you. Walked along 34th street after leaving Macy’s (a jam packed tourist factory) and immediately hit with several meth/crack junky zombies crawling around the sidewalk. A freak show.
Now all they need to do is get rid of the city council and NY Legislature to get this place going. If not, this is pouring money into a rat hole with the crime and trash that roam those streets. These Vornado people must live in a bubble, they actually do not have to walk the streets everyday to see the junkies and criminals overtaking our once great city.
A true Riviera luxury for criminals, assaults, robberies, mental patients, homeless.
CRIME STATION, that's the real name.
How many cops you gonna hire? 2,000?
Cops are pigs
Hiring cops does nothing for preventing homelessness and crime. You must be a MAGA t. Until the radical right starts addressing the real variables that contribute to social maladies, nothing will change. Spending more money on an already over bloated police budget of Six BILLION dollars annually is not the answer.
Instead of investing on the homeless and mentally I’ll .. they try to hide how ugly this city really is by making it look luxurious… in reality is going to be filled with crazy people and it’s going to smell like piss
@GodzillaBoyNY Obsession to end homelessness and poverty to mitigate crime. Question is, why are you not obsessed?
@@argenisj1975 Exactly. NYC is not meaningfully engaging in ways to end homelessness and poverty, but rather putting lipstick on a pig. The new Penn project is a perfect example.
Wow, lookin good
Bartoletti Forges
Just all for the rich and very expensive middle class the poor can not even enjoy pretty sure the food would be expensive to eat there and rent very high of course they don’t think or care about us who won’t able to rent there. Yeah we didn’t like u said all for the rich people. It will be nice just to look at . The same goes for Hudson Yard extremely expensive. They should make it affordable for very human beings.
Not everything is meant for everybody…
Unfortunately it should never be this way especially that it is public area top of that a place where people can rent and live notice that they making these beautiful building every where now which they say it’s affordable housing and it’s not. Most are living pay check by pay check . We should be able to enjoy what they bring out there this is why there is so anger. There are people who are working and are homeless due to the high rent and cost of living.
If they are serving luxury you're going to have to pay luxury prices. Also, these venues always have more standard options in the food areas like Shake Shack, etc. Of course the nice rooftop bars and stuff you'd have to pay more. If you don't like it, there is an entire city in front of you that has many great restaurants with affordable prices.
@@dymechik721 It is if it being paid for with public tax dollars. Entitled much?
@@meyer8199 It’s being developed by PRIVATE developers. They get some city tax breaks but city isn’t funding this. Nobody spends that amount of money to not make a profit. They have the right to charge what they feel the area commands.
Blanda Estate
😍😍😍 the architect did the thang
What a shame they're demolishing the beautiful historic Hotel Pennsylvania. You'd think New York would have learned their lesson about tearing down historic art deco architecture to be replaced by ugly modern BS that is defacing NYC's skyline. Shame on you, Vornado
Boo! MSG sucks, redeem Penn Station!
FABULOUS 😊👏👏
The ony wat to describe this building is sauceless pasta.
Cassin Fork
I love the new law allowing more high buildings to be built! It's New York! We need to continue building higher and higher! Lol 😆 ❤❤❤❤❤
We need to tear down the Madison Square Garden and Associated Buildings and rebuild the original Penn Station. Penn Station will not be great again until we build a replica of the original and restore the area to its former glory.
Waste of tax payer money
I went to school in this area. All I can think of is a long escalator leading to Penn station and arcade games. And a restaurant across the street. It was ok. But it did not really feel like a business and commuter district.
i cant wait to see this in 2035
Put it will shadow the Empire State Building..
tear down MSG and start again.
What good is it when you have homeless people and thieves surrounding you.
Homeless and crackheads sleeping on the floor in pen station as we speak lol they going to love the upgrade 😂😆
This is just an ad lol
Gotti Jr is back.
Is this where all the Bums are going to sleep?
I only hope this doesn’t become a new home for the homeless
Looks forgettable
what nyc deserve: an amazing new project renovation
NYC deserves much better. This is a disastrous plan costing tax payers billions.
But is it skate-able?
Remove the homeless