The History of Climbing Shoes

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • This is a brief look at the history of Climbing Shoes. A sport that hasn't been around that long has seen some serious innovations and changes to one of the most important pieces of equipment in the sport. By understanding how the shoes used in climbing changed alongside how the sport changes can give us an insight on what we can expect in the future.
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  • @jeremyredd4232
    @jeremyredd4232 4 роки тому +310

    So one dude basically designed all of my favorite climbing shoes. Solutions, instincts, boosters, katanas, testarossas, vapors. So basically he's responsible for why I love La Sportiva and Scarpa. Good to know.

    • @FranFerioli
      @FranFerioli 4 роки тому +8

      Jeremy Redd he is also a great climber and important figure in the history of European free climbing in the 70’ and 80’.

    • @muhammadandrew3975
      @muhammadandrew3975 3 роки тому

      @Kingsley Jamal instablaster ;)

    • @themurderofcoke
      @themurderofcoke Рік тому +1

      Darn him and his skinny feet (or my wide feet) becuase I love those shoes but can't fit them for long periods, pushing me towards Evolv

    • @themurderofcoke
      @themurderofcoke Рік тому

      Darn him and his skinny feet (or my wife feet) becuase I love those shoes but can't fit them for long periods, pushing me towards Evolv

  • @jasongastrock6686
    @jasongastrock6686 4 роки тому +26

    I always thought it was pronounced “Albert okay” lmaoo

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Haha you can call me whatever you like idc :)

    • @hollow3951
      @hollow3951 4 роки тому +4

      @@AlbertOkay how about "favorite youtuber"

  • @fdect
    @fdect 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting video! My first climbing shoe was an old brazilian entry level shoe called Snake Blox, mas was super thin and soft, but quite gripy (I'm from Brazil). Then, as I progressed, I bought a La Sportiva Tarantulace and honestly it was the worse shoe I have every owned.
    Since my thing is long trad climbs, not too technical, it is easier to find. I currently own Millet and probably the best shoe I've ever owned!

  • @animeblitz4939
    @animeblitz4939 2 роки тому

    I would wear climbing shoes like casual shoes, they're really comfy. It's like my foot is getting a hug

  • @powersergio
    @powersergio 4 роки тому +12

    It's a guilty pleasure of mine to try/get new shoes, there's something about new shoes that makes you feel like you could climb better than you previously could. Funny enough tho I used rental shoes for my first year or so in climbing.
    That being said Scarpa has had my back with their designs, specifically the Instinct line has been the best fit for myself. I wish the Scarpa Airs fit better for me, they're a bit wider than my foot and the heel cup doesn't sit quite right. :( Really looking forward to trying the Drago LVs cause that will hopefully fix my only issue with the Dragos.
    Anybody else change preferences yearly on how stiff you like your climbing shoes to feel? Right now I've settled at a medium level stiffness with the Instinct VSRs.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +3

      I'm so split between scarpa and sportiva. I love the heels of sportiva but prefer the toe boxes of scarpa. I have the same problem with the airs, but it's enough to ignore since the toe box is so good it makes up for it. Once I blow out my shoes I'm probably going to transition to either solution comp, theory or just go back to instinct vsr....although I tried the hiangle pros....might be a sleeper favorite of mine in the future
      I used to love stiff shoes, but now the older I get and more I climb I like it softer and softer

  • @chickenspy1854
    @chickenspy1854 4 роки тому +3

    So what's the deal with approach shoes? The true meaning of their existence still alludes me.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +7

      Sometimes getting to climbs can be difficult. I've had to do some Class 5 hiking to get to the climbs I wanted to do and I've even had to climb maybe like v0-v1 to get to certain climbs as well. Having approach shoes are nice since you can hike in them on easy grounds, but there is climbing rubber on the tip and the tip is stiff so you can do easier climbing moves such as v0-v1 without having to change shoes!

  • @Chsymstrd
    @Chsymstrd 4 роки тому +126

    This dude makes quality videos of a multi million sub channel and only has 20 k cmon ppl 😑

    • @fhuber783
      @fhuber783 4 роки тому +3

      Bruhmoment 57 probably because he puts so many ads in his videos... Good video, but this amount of ads makes its unwatchable

    • @Ah-fb8pc
      @Ah-fb8pc 3 роки тому +1

      makes videos with errors lmfao

  • @realtrashstar
    @realtrashstar 4 роки тому +129

    Shoe designer: How much velcro do you want on the shoe?
    Mad Rock: Yes.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +3

      Haha, now they use less!

  • @nicccole
    @nicccole 4 роки тому +181

    This is the first time I hear his name clearly, it's Albert "Ork" Not Albert "Okay"...

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +66

      Yeah it's more close to Oak, but honestly I go by whatever. People call me Okay all the time I don't really care!

    • @maxe.1598
      @maxe.1598 4 роки тому +26

      @@AlbertOkay Albert Okay sounds cool, I thought it was your own "brand" that you came up with!

    • @ATXrollerblader
      @ATXrollerblader 4 роки тому +2

      Max E. $6 but go man kazoos

    • @KeeperOfSolitude
      @KeeperOfSolitude 3 роки тому +1

      @@maxe.1598 it doesn't sounds good enough, just Okay

  • @ImStuckInStockton
    @ImStuckInStockton 4 роки тому +63

    I definitely think you should be out of the rental shoes after max 3 months. The rental shoes at my gym had zero stiffness and when I got my Tarantulaces I remember being able to flash a problem I couldn't even start in the rentals. The rentals were smooth as eggs and limp as a flour tortilla.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +9

      Yeah that would have been ordered, but at the time I couldn't afford any. Once I could I could see drastic improvement!

    • @alexanderhandjiev2845
      @alexanderhandjiev2845 3 роки тому +2

      In our gym, the tarantulas are the rental shoes. They are horrible imo :D

    • @II-V-I
      @II-V-I 2 роки тому +2

      @@alexanderhandjiev2845 the tarantula is a great beginners shoe. Maybe your footwork is one of your major weaknesses in climbing?
      I spent 1,5 years with the tarantula and since then got stuck on the scarpa instinct which is such a great allrounder!!!

    • @amr1t_
      @amr1t_ 2 роки тому

      yap I also found out that my feet are super narrow so when they were giving me men's rentals, despite them being the right length, I had so much side to side play. At the least I would recommend going to an REI or something and figuring out what size actually fits you in the brand of the rental shoe. Or at that point just buy the good fitting shoe, I also picked up the tarantulaces and I've been amazed at my own growth lol

    • @FxdGearQueer
      @FxdGearQueer Рік тому +1

      late to the party: they're probably also deformed and worn out from so many different feet.

  • @jaronivanisko9811
    @jaronivanisko9811 4 роки тому +89

    Just thought I'd add that there was a cool history of mountaineers (and early rock climbers I believe) using tennis or felt shoes on rock because their stiff boots couldn't climb rock well. These kind of softer shoes were the genesis of modern climbing shoes in a lot of ways.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +14

      I did read up a bit about the original Keds being used for mountaineering, but I couldn't find any concrete information about it. I would love to sit down from someone who lived through that era and get a really in depth look!

    • @katarzynamazurkiewicz6012
      @katarzynamazurkiewicz6012 4 роки тому +14

      I think the history is also a bit different in different parts of the world. For example, in Poland and Czechoslovakia (which had a communist system at the time and they couldn't afford Western technology), there was a transition period in the 70s/80s when people would cut off the rubber 'spikes' from football/soccer shoes and glue some appropriate rubber over that part.

    • @jaronivanisko9811
      @jaronivanisko9811 4 роки тому +4

      In an issue of alpinist magazine I read about how the first party to climb La Meije in the Hautes-Alpes of France decided to tackle the top of the mountain barefoot because it allowed them to climb the mid 5th class slabs much more easily. Maybe the original climbing shoes are our bare feet haha. Charles Albert would agree.

    • @dankennedy3365
      @dankennedy3365 3 роки тому +3

      @@AlbertOkay You should try to contact and interview Gary Neptune, the original owner of Neptune Mountaineering in Boulder, CO. I think he still actually owns all the historical gear in the shop and knows many famous climbing company families as he has been climbing since the ‘60s (early?). I worked for him in the early 2000s and he could talk your ear off. He had felt soled shoes in his display and could definitely tell you more about all that history. TBH I haven’t been in the US since 2014 so I don’t know if he’s even still around but he was always a super friendly guy.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  3 роки тому +3

      @@dankennedy3365 Oh man I've been to that store so many times I didn't even know he had so much historical artifacts! Thanks for the heads up, I'll go see if I can talk to him when I visit this summer!

  • @yuteyang6811
    @yuteyang6811 4 роки тому +158

    OMG such a good video! make another one for harnesses!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +22

      For sure in the future!

    • @DrewNorthup
      @DrewNorthup 4 роки тому +2

      @@AlbertOkay See "Ray's Red Truck", The Climbing Zine, issue XVI
      You'll find it useful when doing something about harnesses and their makers.

    • @anhgau2007
      @anhgau2007 11 місяців тому

      @@AlbertOkayI’m still waiting for it man

  • @hollow3951
    @hollow3951 4 роки тому +104

    At 14:28 you talk about Unparallel and how the creators of that are from 5.10. That isn't the exact story. Adidas bought out 5.10 and fired all the climbing shoes engineers and hired ZERO replacements. They are mainly just selling remakes of their older shoes now.

    • @cyhe66
      @cyhe66 4 роки тому +36

      also Adidas bought the naming rights of the stealth rubber, but not the actual chemistry, which Sang Lee knows (same gut who created dark matter rubber for so ill). If anything unparallel is the old 5.10 that we all love. Quite a few pros who used to wear 5.10 have switched to unparallel, namely Tomoa Narasaki. I believe he used to be a hiangle wearer, so that makes a lot of sense.

    • @hollow3951
      @hollow3951 4 роки тому +7

      @@cyhe66 i didn't know about the stealth rubber part thx yeah the switch makes sense.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +49

      I met with the owner briefly at a trade show and he told me some details of the departure. I wanted to go into detail about it, but thought it might be a bit too drama-y right now haha. Maybe I'll visit what happened with the owner the next time I see him!

    • @alexgalays910
      @alexgalays910 4 роки тому

      What was the point of that? People are already complaining the replacements are poorer even.

    • @hollow3951
      @hollow3951 4 роки тому +11

      @@alexgalays910 The point of firing all the people who had made great shoes? No idea. My *guess* is that they just didn't want to pay them and thought that developing new climbing shoes and making slight edits of older ones would be easy and they didn't need to pay people to do that for them.

  • @arties01
    @arties01 4 роки тому +21

    Idk why i watched the whole thing, i dont have a single clue about rock climbing

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +6

      Heck yeah, glad you stayed and watched!

  • @lukeasko
    @lukeasko 4 роки тому +21

    I started rock climbing 2 months ago and now Im watching vids about shoes and really enjoying them. What happened to me?
    No but seriously dude, really nice video keep up the good work!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +7

      Heck yes! I'm so psyched you're starting your climbing journey and hope you keep crushing it on and off the walls!

  • @ocun3508
    @ocun3508 4 роки тому +19

    Great video sir! Appriciate to being mentioned.

  • @1337-David
    @1337-David 4 роки тому +23

    When the two shoes you wear the most are 30 and 20 year old designs...... lol

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +3

      Classic shoes are always a great choice!

    • @alanemery1953
      @alanemery1953 4 роки тому

      Still wearing my 5.10 Pitons I bought in early 2000's. Been through resoling, but great for all day climbing. Wonder if unparallel will return to older styles that you could wear all day and climb just about anything in them?

  • @the.Aruarian
    @the.Aruarian 4 роки тому +64

    I feel that the most important thing about climbing shoes, is whether or not they fit your footshape well. If Solutions feel like Adam Ondra is squeezing your forefoot while the heel constantly slips out, and yet the rental Tenaya's have no deadspots and feel good, then the latter is the better shoe for you. It's really interesting to see some Scarpa athletes switching between Instincts and Drago's, seeing as the latter is so much more narrow in the forefoot. Or Daniel Woods going from Solutions to Evolv shoes, which also tend to be much wider in front and narrow in the heel.

    • @Dave1507
      @Dave1507 Рік тому

      I had a thought about that brand switching, and I thoght maybe the company or brand that sponsors a climber has a special last modelled after the feet of that climber, so they get taylored shoes whatever the brand, and the average consumer gets the standard shoe.

    • @themurderofcoke
      @themurderofcoke Рік тому

      I almost exclusively use evolv for the wide feet, but keep a pair of Instinct VS as project shoes, because while they hurt like hell after a while for me, they climb incredibly.

  • @churtle1442
    @churtle1442 4 роки тому +27

    Idk if you want to change it, but at 3:14 you can’t read the full text

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +19

      Oh no... That one exported wrong. Oh well...);

    • @Smug_Jeremy
      @Smug_Jeremy 4 роки тому +12

      Albert Ok also at 12:46 the same sentence plays for a second time. Love the videos! Keep em up!

  • @ultrachen
    @ultrachen 4 роки тому +13

    I told my friend that I found a new great climbing youtuber and I strongly recommended him to subscribe. He asked me what was that? I said Albert OK, he said he subscribed it long time ago and recommended me before...

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +5

      Hahah, well I'm glad you're recommending my channel to your friends. Makes me PSYCHED!

  • @sallylee4924
    @sallylee4924 3 роки тому +11

    This is such a high quality and informative video. The amount of research that must have gone into this is incredible. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @fab1000
    @fab1000 4 роки тому +8

    Great video! Thanks! You could have mentionned the rise of "No Edge" shoes, other than that very thorough!
    Side note: Super gratton (Gratton meaning "crimp" in french) what the model name, EB is the brand (still exist)

  • @traddad9652
    @traddad9652 4 роки тому +9

    I still have a pair of PAs somewhere in my basement. I thought Boreal Firé was pronounced "Fee-Ray", not "Fi-er"

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому

      You're probably correct. I'll ask the rep of Boreal next time I see him!

    • @luisespada5546
      @luisespada5546 4 роки тому +6

      Actually, it's pronounced as it goes: "Feere". In Spanish the sounds are pretty straightforward with the letters. By the way, the name of the shoe is in honor of the Mallo Firé, one of the multipitch climbs of "Mallos de Riglos", the most iconic climbing zone in Spain.

  • @dedede8239
    @dedede8239 4 роки тому +29

    no way!!! the footage of the gym being constructed is my local gym (triangle rock club)

    • @Ozymoron
      @Ozymoron 4 роки тому +1

      That really tripped me out! I was thinking that the gym in the video looked very familiar.......

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +3

      Great gym!

    • @madelinearnold2877
      @madelinearnold2877 3 роки тому

      I noticed it too! I came to the comments to see if someone mentioned it. Haha.

  • @goldengoat4248
    @goldengoat4248 4 роки тому +20

    Great history vid! Hope to see more in the future, like the origin of cams or something and you good sir keep crushing as well 🤙

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +3

      I'm working on getting better at Traditional climbing and learning more and more about gear placing and cams. I've been a gym climber for all of the time I've been climbing so it's new to me still. Hopefully I learn enough myself in the future to talk on the content!

    • @hollow3951
      @hollow3951 4 роки тому

      @@AlbertOkay I did mock trad for the first time a week ago and it was super cool

  • @Mickeyyangmai
    @Mickeyyangmai 4 роки тому +8

    This is great! I love the way you've summarized and condensed the history and future of climbing shoes!
    P.S. I love your poster of Jain Kim.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому

      Thanks so much Mickey! It's my favorite poster!!

  • @thenativebrookie
    @thenativebrookie 4 роки тому +10

    It’s a love/hate relationship with the idea of climbing exploding as an industry after the olympics...especially working at a gym 😅...I really hope it doesn’t lose its self

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +8

      I totally get that, but at the same time there will be climbers that climb that treat the sport and community poorly, there will be be climbers that are inspired and build the community in a new way which is so exciting to me!

  • @igorbaldo
    @igorbaldo 4 роки тому +3

    One brand you missed is Simond, owned by Decathlon.

  • @midship_nc
    @midship_nc 2 роки тому +1

    Hey cool, the footage of the gym being built at 11:40 is my climbing gym TRC in morrisville! Thought I recognized that wall lol.

  • @diederikeding6544
    @diederikeding6544 Рік тому +1

    I actually still have and use a pair of boreal ninja climbing shoes exactly like the one on 6:13. They are like what, 30 years old now?

  • @jonkrause6714
    @jonkrause6714 4 роки тому +4

    Awwwsssooommmmeeeee!🤘 Now my head hurts from so much new information. 🤣 Great history and would definitely never found it like you did. My first pair of shoes were the La Sportiva Muiras and I too the advice of the gym staff to buy 2 sizes down? 😲 They hurt so bad but got my first indoor V5 cave climb. In the short 5+ years I’ve bought about 15 pairs of shoes with all brand & makes, but kept closer to my street foot size. I’ve noticed that as my skills improve, a certain style works better. When I climbed 12 hours a couple weeks ago (a combo of Stoney Point and 3 indoor gyms), I switched between my Unparallel Uprise VCS and 510 Team. Like you said, doesn’t really matter of the shoes, as long as you’re having fun.
    🤘

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Miuras was my first aggressive shoe! It was such a good shoe for me and really developed my climbing style. Having a variety of shoes is a nice luxury if you can afford it, and it definitely helps having multiple shoes on hand when you want to switch out different shoes for different types of climbs or just purely based off your mood. I definitely can see how in your video that switching out the shoes from indoor to outdoor climbing would have helped you send and have fun!

  • @andrewscott5059
    @andrewscott5059 4 роки тому +3

    a quick thing on the Drago: It was released in europe as a limited edition in early 2016 (april?), and july in NA (you can find a video from april 2016 where it's already released: ua-cam.com/video/0_gUMbxrh5E/v-deo.html), so It's been around for more than 4 years. Incredible to think that Scarpa couldn't figure out that the whole world would want these amazing shoes, and only was going to sell 1000.
    I'm as much of a climber as I am a total hardware geek, so I really appreciate you bringing the janky art of shoe design to the wider climbing community who may otherwise overlook it.
    I really believe we've only scratched the surface of shoe design, but it will take a widespread interest in the sport to foster innovation. Without the financial backing to design new shoes (or materials for that matter), only truly visionary people who love what they do will innovate in the space, and the world hasn't found a new Heinz Mariacher yet.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      I remember that time, they were like 250$ + and hard to get! I mentioned 3 ish years only because it was available to wide public then. The one shoe I would dream to try is the furia s 80...looks insane

    • @andrewscott5059
      @andrewscott5059 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@AlbertOkay I would never want to climb in those, too valuable. Definitely would've bought a pair and put it on display though, an absolutely beautiful shoe. It's pretty much a furia S with some holes in the outsole and a red patch in the front though, and I bet you'd love it considering you use Furia airs.
      I'm certain Scarpa will come out with another furia shoe that will be even more crazy in a year or two, so buckle up for that I suppose. might even see that red toe rubber again. probably not, but we can dream

  • @ronan615
    @ronan615 4 роки тому +5

    12:35-12:45 gets repeated just afterwards.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      Sorry, my current set up glitches every now and then and exports incorrectly. Once I can afford better equipment hopefully it won't happen in the future!

  • @Theboardbro
    @Theboardbro 4 роки тому +10

    Albert you truly inspire me to get outside and go climbing! keep up the good work!!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      Heck YES!! This comment makes me psyched to train then CLIMB Crush it John!

  • @Orynae
    @Orynae 4 роки тому +3

    Actually researching all the way back to prehistory to give us the full history of climbing shoes, nice. Good thing I have this video to tell me my ancestors climbed with dirt on their feet XD
    (but for real, great video! It was really cool to see the evolution of climbing shoes over the years, it's crazy how much things have changed in just my lifetime.)

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому

      Hahah thanks for the comment. Climbing is such a young sport that so much has happened even in the last 3 years! It's so amazing and I can't wait to see what happens in the future!

  • @asderonpix
    @asderonpix 4 роки тому +2

    You did not mention too much about Boreal except for the beginning. That company has evolved so well. They have a new line of asymmetric shoes, depending of the climbing needs, such as Satori, Dharma, and Mutant

  • @eddyhuang8689
    @eddyhuang8689 4 роки тому +10

    Just came back home from the gym, a pretty disappointing day, fell on some routes I should flash easily. The end of the video cheers me up instantly, it reminds me the time when I first started. And the passion will never change. Next time I’ll crush those routes!

  • @DeadpoolJust
    @DeadpoolJust 4 роки тому +4

    So happy to be a part of your audience when you were starting out! Love your stuff

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Giancarlo, I remember seeing your name early this year. Thanks for the support!

  • @micheleriggio1718
    @micheleriggio1718 4 роки тому +4

    Here is one brand that you miss: Bufo (btw very nice video)

  • @James-Truong
    @James-Truong 4 роки тому +2

    At 13:32, the climber (Fanny Gilbert, correct me if I'm wrong) has got some SERIOUS hops!

    • @Quintinia
      @Quintinia 4 роки тому

      That is Fanny but I think the big hop is actually reversed footage of a fall lol. She really does have mad hops though!

    • @James-Truong
      @James-Truong 4 роки тому

      @@Quintinia nah, I don't believe you!

  • @Monody888
    @Monody888 4 роки тому +1

    Love the cover with Jain Kim behind you! ♥️

  • @Drag_on_king
    @Drag_on_king Рік тому +1

    I've been climbing for about 15 years now. For most of that time I used rental shoes. (Due to it being a regular climbing group where most people did the same, and me still growing at that time) only three years ago I got a pair of leasing shoes from Edelried. Now I own my first pair, that really belongs to me (Scarpa Apira). Tomorrow is the first time I will use them for real, I am exited, but I had a lot of fun until now.

  • @cragbum87
    @cragbum87 4 роки тому +2

    If you could do a video on shoe care and simple shoe fixes, I think that would be huge hit. A lot of climbers (myself included) have limited knowledge of best practices to maintain rubber for stickiness and longevity. As well, some shoes become less comfortable over time with wear, whether leather hardening or stitching becoming more pronounced/abrasive. Addressing climbing shoe issues outside of resoling and initial fit, would be a huge resource to the community.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      I'm planning on it in the future!

  • @Goofygreyhoundgoober
    @Goofygreyhoundgoober 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting final comment about beginning in rental/beginner shoes. After climbing in higher performance shoes I’d never go back, but I still got a lot of climbing done in my sloppy first pair of shoes, and had a lot of fun. Blissfully unaware of what I was missing

  • @philipfahy9658
    @philipfahy9658 4 роки тому +1

    Wait, so people were climbing V8's, but 5.10's were considered the hardest climbs in the world. My how thing's have changed.

  • @cameronsmith9629
    @cameronsmith9629 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting video! PS The timelapse of the gym being built beginning around 11:39 is the gym I climbed at for years, TRC morrisville :P it was cool to see it being built.

  • @marcosjuan3142
    @marcosjuan3142 3 роки тому +1

    Personally I have always loved climbing shoes with laces and in my opinion the best ever are La sportiva Testarossa first edition (because I haven’t tried the second generation yet)

  • @stefans4562
    @stefans4562 4 роки тому +2

    I wear ocun's oxi s most of the time. You've missed that brand.
    Edit: My bad. Albert did mention that brand.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      I mentioned them in the end with Kyra confirm and put them in the list!

    • @stefans4562
      @stefans4562 4 роки тому

      @@AlbertOkay I am sorry. Didn't pay enough attention.

  • @pavelbelik6174
    @pavelbelik6174 2 роки тому +1

    Scarpa Furia Air is a really great shoe if you want to feel the footholds and generally improve your footwork as an intermediate climber. However it is terrible for heel hooks. On the other hand, Miura has probably the best heel on the market. So I use these two shoes based on the type of a climb.

  • @jonasgerhauer8843
    @jonasgerhauer8843 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic video! Heinz is a true hero to the climbing scene

  • @cc2074
    @cc2074 4 роки тому +1

    When 5.10 introduced products in 1985 the hardest climbs in the world were 5.13ish, so no connection in that respect. Great rubber at the time, although you usually had to get a kit and do the resole yourself to upgrade your own shoes. 5.10s first rock shoes where awful.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      I've talked to the reps at 5.10 and they kind of explained it that - yes there were 5.13 c/d at the time, but for the most part if you were climbing 5.10 you were well respected and considered strong. 5.10 definitely got better through the times, and got really good. I'm really excited for their HiAngle pro coming out in the future

    • @cc2074
      @cc2074 4 роки тому

      Just put this in as a correction to your statement that "He named the shoe and the company 5.10 after at the time what was considered the hardest climbs in the world". Just so you know where I fit into this timeline my first shoes where EBs. Lots of great innovation over the years.

  • @RPD_ps
    @RPD_ps Рік тому

    Hi Albert Ok, great video! I just wanted to ask, where can I find the music that you used on this video?? I really like your music choices

  • @XLessThanZ
    @XLessThanZ Рік тому

    I'd like to see Goodyear and Bridgestone get into climbing shoes. Their specialty is rubber.🤣🤔🤷‍♂

  • @BerryTara48
    @BerryTara48 4 роки тому +1

    Hahaaa I feel really stupid because I've been saying Albert "Okay" for forever! oops! But also, this is seriously an amazing video. I got so excited when my shoe was mentioned ahaaha. Love your content so much!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Haha thanks so much! You can call me Okay or Ok any one works I don't mind it at all! :)

  • @billjohnson7998
    @billjohnson7998 3 місяці тому

    When I started climbing in 1972, Royal Robbins climbing shoes were all the rage and were being used by many climbing in Yosemite. I believe they first came out in 1969. I bought a pair of PA's in Italy in 1976 and climbed in them enough to have them resoled once.

  • @bao9265
    @bao9265 4 роки тому +1

    This was a super cool video. I think you could take this concept and make it into a series like “History of Climbing gear, hold, gyms, etc.” Can’t wait to see more!

  • @davidedinello6133
    @davidedinello6133 4 роки тому +1

    @2:48 it's VitalE Bramani, not Vitali.
    Vitali sounds very much Russian, but he was from my hometown Milan in Italy :)
    Also, I just realized that VIBRAM stands for VI(tale) BRAM(ani) from his name

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому

      Thanks for the correction! Also that realization is amazing! I didn't catch that until you pointed it out.

    • @davidedinello6133
      @davidedinello6133 4 роки тому

      @@AlbertOkay keep coming with the great content! Love your channel!

  • @mattwest2727
    @mattwest2727 4 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: Genus is always capitalized while species is always lower case. Also, binomial nomenclature should be italicized or underlined.
    Example: _Homo habilis_

  • @usprodrigo
    @usprodrigo 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing! Loved to know about that evolution!!! This was a Piece of art!!!

  • @ilickspam
    @ilickspam 4 роки тому +2

    asking anybody. how long do your shoes last until you want to resole them, or start having holes?

    • @joandomenech6708
      @joandomenech6708 4 роки тому +2

      Around 6 months. I mostly break my shoes because I drag them against the wall in order to keep tension (not on porpuose). So they break where they shouldn't

    • @kockarthur7976
      @kockarthur7976 4 роки тому

      Depends on a lot of factors. I needed to resole my solutions after about 9 months of fairly consistent use, but I was also using another pair of shoes in that same time.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      It's a bit tough since there is no timeframe of when you should resole them. If you're climbing 5 times a week chances are you'll end up resoling sooner than someone climbing 2 times a week. This is a bit hard to describe but you want to resole it right before the outer layer of the sole gets completely worn out. The one thing you should avoid is letting a hole get through the rand - or make a hole completely through the shoe...even if it's a tiny hole it makes it harder for the resoler to fix the shoe and often you will end up with a lesser outcome. Hope this helps!

  • @AK-th1ky
    @AK-th1ky 4 роки тому +1

    amazing effort (: thank you for such a comprehensive video! lots of research done here.

  • @brownmasao
    @brownmasao 3 роки тому +1

    I really love and enjoy your honest, upright content! I just started this year and your beta break videos are a must for every beginner! keep crushing it :)

  • @Uri18
    @Uri18 Рік тому

    Barely talked about FiveTen and the anazasi shoe which is still in production today. I love their Stealth C4 rubber, but my favorite shoes used had Stealth Onyxx rubber which was perfect for super sharp routes in my area. I've since resoled them with vibram XS Edge which is the closest. I've yet to see better rubber than what Stealth produces.

  • @Uri18
    @Uri18 Рік тому

    I've seen a documetary of Alberto Rabada and Ernesto Navarro wearing something called "Alpargatas de Cañamo" roughly translates to "hemp spadrilles". When thwy visoted the US locals where skeptical of their footware, but after seening what they could do, locals were more interested in way to get a pair of those alpargatas.

  • @TheOneTrueIgnatius
    @TheOneTrueIgnatius 4 роки тому +2

    Does anyone in the comments have advice for me on my hunt for my first shoe. It sounds bad but I've been climbing for 2 years and am fairly proficient, but madrock flat shoes are holding me back. Is So ill an ok brand?

    • @JimmysLimeadeStand
      @JimmysLimeadeStand 4 роки тому +1

      I've used so ill and they're awesome! it's a pretty decent all around shoe. right now I use Tenaya Oasi's which are some of my favorite shoes I've owned

    • @kockarthur7976
      @kockarthur7976 4 роки тому +1

      Some shoes are better for certain kinds of climbing. As a generic recommendation, either the La Sportiva Solution or Evolv Shaman. They are worth the money. If you get them fitted well, either of those shoes can serve a variety of purposes. The biggest downside of those shoes that I can think of is their edging capabilities - ability to stand on tiny edges or sharp crystals on rock, since they aren't super stiff. Like, they're still pretty good, but not the best.

    • @TheOneTrueIgnatius
      @TheOneTrueIgnatius 4 роки тому

      @@kockarthur7976 thanks for the info, I appreciate it

    • @TheOneTrueIgnatius
      @TheOneTrueIgnatius 4 роки тому

      @@JimmysLimeadeStand thanks, that's what I heard

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +2

      If you're into indoor climbing then looking into soft slipper design shoes are a great bet! Tenaya Mastia, Scarpa Instinct VSR, Madrock Drone, Sportiva Skwama are all good recommendations. It all depends on your taste and price range. The best thing to do is fit them in person and you'll get a feel for what you like and don't like.

  • @interfearance3269
    @interfearance3269 3 роки тому

    Fraying straps, peeling toe rubber and crap durability. "Solution" is an overhyped misnomer. Futuras and skwamas are almost the same without the problems.

  • @nathanhoette328
    @nathanhoette328 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video , and nicely presented. You missed a few steps in the evolution of climbing shoes from Heinz with rubber tension systems and the mapping of the upper materials around the toes , but these are really nerdy details of not much interest to the masses. Well done!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I could have talked about that, but I wanted to keep the video on the shorter side! Honestly this video could have been easily 2 hrs+ and still not be able to cover everything

    • @nathanhoette328
      @nathanhoette328 4 роки тому

      @@AlbertOkay Agreed. It was well done.

  • @martygt3357
    @martygt3357 4 роки тому

    Your age is showing when you speak old shoe names. But I like the video. And you skipped the blue RRs. Always ask an old dirtbag about any aspect of climbing lore. Some of us were sober enough to remember.

  • @constantinosschinas4503
    @constantinosschinas4503 2 роки тому

    In 20 years: electrorubber and electroplastics combined with sensors and AI, that produces a shoe that gets harder or softer depending on each move, or at the will of the climber. Would not be a big fan tho.

  • @Boscoeguidazu
    @Boscoeguidazu Рік тому

    Before the Fire shoes were not sticky. The sticky rubber sole was discovered in Madrid. A guy went to a shoe repair and asked if they could put some soles made from airplane worn tires.

  • @ubugemindia
    @ubugemindia 3 роки тому

    Fun fact, one of the members that started up per-adra is from Sasuke (Ninja Warrior), Tomohiro Kawaguchi.

  • @grosebud4554
    @grosebud4554 Рік тому

    We have a really nice brand new gym near where I live in Philly.. only climbed once and I’m obsessed. Trying to figure out what shoe to buy as the rentals are disgusting

  • @gonzalobanuelos642
    @gonzalobanuelos642 8 місяців тому

    ACOPA ! born from collabs with legendary John Bachar

  • @harrietramos8691
    @harrietramos8691 3 роки тому

    The brief city phylogentically suspend because chimpanzee family dance aside a finicky reaction. fast, scattered truck

  • @iancd9171
    @iancd9171 4 роки тому +1

    Great video man ! The quality of your channel consistently blows me away, you definitely deserve more subscribers (and I'm sure you will get them).
    Cheers from France !

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Merci! Thank you for the comment and hope you're doing well!

  • @HiImBQ
    @HiImBQ 9 місяців тому

    If I remember correctly, Heinz also designed the Scarpa Veloce. And boy did he a good job with this one as well.

  • @joetitterington1222
    @joetitterington1222 3 роки тому

    Awesome. How about size?
    HV vs. LV. Adam Ondra and how tiny his shoes are. No wonder he climbs so fast.

  • @ThiLI0n
    @ThiLI0n 3 роки тому

    Hobnails and crampons are separate, much older tools. Hobnails were in use in antiquity already, crampons I know are at the latest a late medieval thing in Germanic areas.

  • @maplenutbutter4336
    @maplenutbutter4336 2 роки тому

    Homo habilis was not a predecessor of primates, it was a member of the genus Homo within the order primates. An ancestor of modern humans though.

  • @omallykaboose
    @omallykaboose 4 роки тому +1

    wildcountry briefly entered the shoe market in collaboration with Michelin with what has largely been a failure - the parthian and the meshuga shoes. i don't know if you recieved them in the the USA but they have not done very well. it is a very interesting shoe from a design standpoint but they are horrifically uncomfortable.

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому

      I have heard of those shoes, but at the time I wasn't climbing and can't really say much about them. I did hear similar stories like you have been talking about and I can see why they went out of style.

  • @joostdemoor138
    @joostdemoor138 Рік тому

    jeeez did they take wippers during the early days of comp climbing

  • @wenlambotomy6231
    @wenlambotomy6231 Рік тому

    Boreal Laser was instrumental back in early 90’s pushing the grades up.

  • @Gebura578
    @Gebura578 3 роки тому

    still a bit hung up on them naming a climbing shoe the "Madrock Hooker E.Z"

  • @eddiefowke
    @eddiefowke 4 роки тому +1

    Great video, a few things I would have loved you to flesh out or include though was the use of rope soled shoes in Bleau to advance the standards of the time, some of the test pieces from the 30's done with these shoes are still solid today. The advent and importance of tensioned rands, and lastly the importance of more shoes that really progressed the sport. The Boreal Laser being a great example ;)

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      The Boreal Laser was an absolutely great shoe! I couldn't find enough information about the rope soling, although I did find a few forum posts that talked about them. Maybe I'll make a follow up video talking about older shoes more in depth if and when I can talk to some people that are more familiar with the older generation of shoes. Would be a fun project to work on!

  • @jimbo9203
    @jimbo9203 3 роки тому

    Fun fact: the Drago was originally supposed to be a limited release

  • @skreek.o7
    @skreek.o7 2 роки тому

    rental shoes are so bad at my gym that I'm certain they want to keep the gym population down

  • @Ah-fb8pc
    @Ah-fb8pc 3 роки тому

    modern day crampons did not evolve from that invention you need to check your facts there bud

  • @jennifer4643
    @jennifer4643 4 роки тому +1

    You definitely deserve more recognition, great video as always!

  • @abrahammartinez3588
    @abrahammartinez3588 4 роки тому

    Great video! you miss Acopa (made in Mexico by Ernesto Vázquez and John Bachar) and Rock On

  • @JohnnyTaxonomy
    @JohnnyTaxonomy 8 місяців тому

    When it comes to species names, you never capitalize the second part of the name.

  • @kckj3301
    @kckj3301 3 роки тому

    roman empire might have something to say about the invention of cleats

  • @David-gr9nr
    @David-gr9nr Рік тому

    Edelrid makes climbing shoes, mammut as well

  • @emmisarvijarvi595
    @emmisarvijarvi595 3 роки тому

    Amazing video! Subscribed!

  • @MonkeyBarsEveryday
    @MonkeyBarsEveryday Рік тому

    I hope they keep making the Instinct

  • @phaphua2022
    @phaphua2022 Рік тому

    4:48 that is too mush finger strength on one single family photo

  • @AEClimbingTV
    @AEClimbingTV 3 роки тому

    15:48 is Simond included in this list? :D

  • @audreysgoldfish
    @audreysgoldfish 4 роки тому +1

    Your content is always so top notch in so many ways. Thank you for what you do!

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much, I'll be definitely keeping it up as much as I can and trying to improve as much as I can!

  • @Varilpsa
    @Varilpsa 3 роки тому

    5 minutes in and there are so many mispronounciations!!

  • @Linialomdil
    @Linialomdil 3 роки тому

    hey I recognized my local gym in this! Wild

  • @JeremyCanary
    @JeremyCanary 4 роки тому +1

    These are all the shoes I've had from first to most recent:
    La Sportiva Tarantulace
    La Sportiva Otaki
    La Sportiva Katana (returned to REI)
    So Ill Streets (returned to REI)
    La Sportiva Miura VS
    La Sportiva Otaki
    La Sportiva Otaki

    • @JeremyCanary
      @JeremyCanary 4 роки тому +2

      I find myself going back to the Otakis because they fit my foot the best, But I'm very much interested in trying the last Sportiva Theory next.

    • @joandomenech6708
      @joandomenech6708 4 роки тому

      Give five ten or scarpa a go. High quality shoes

    • @TheOneTrueIgnatius
      @TheOneTrueIgnatius 4 роки тому

      Any advice as far as So iLL? I know they have fairly priced shoes and I'm looking to buy my first pair as my old madrocks are really holding me back

    • @AlbertOkay
      @AlbertOkay  4 роки тому +1

      A La Sportiva connoisseur! I really like the Miuras when I had them and the Tarantulace was a great shoe for when I first started out!

    • @JeremyCanary
      @JeremyCanary 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheOneTrueIgnatius so iLLs are a great affordable price and such a good overall shoe. I had no complaints when I had them, but I ended up returning them because I was so accustomed to the rubber La Sportiva uses over the dark matter rubber that So iLL uses.