Sorry for the delay getting this video out. My PC died the other day and In the process of fixing it I lost all my UA-cam files. EDit: The voting poll is now active on the video at around 13:10 , I forget to add it when the video went live.
The SE-14c is my go-to close up weapon, the EE-3 is my long range weapon. I've found that, for midrange shooting (say 50m), the SE-14c is more reliable for some reason. The DH-17 feels like it just sprays all over the place, while the SE-14c seems to send all 5 shots closer to where you are aiming. In practice, at close range, if you are accurate, SE-14c wins every time, but if you fluff your shot, the DH-17 will probably win. The best way to use the SE-14c is to ambush, it's probably the second best ambush weapon behind the shock blaster. Hide behind a ridge or a tree, pop out and take the first shot. You now have a 1v1 duel with somebody at half health at worst, or maybe on no health at all, an easy win.
Passive-Aggressive Blitzkrieg Doesn't help them much unless they have quick reflexes, because by the time they line up the shot, you are firing a second burst right at them and usually finishing them off.
I use the DH-17 more often bc I like the fire patterns better. It's also the first pistol you get, really, with others being subsequent unlocks that are more specialized. The sight on the one could be nice, but I find when I use a blaster I'm going from the hip, close quarters, 12 person games indoors. I tend to choose the DH-17, but that's without analysis, and it's been a while since I used the other. Frankly, the shock blaster has been working great for me in most games, like blast: my movement isn't frantic enough to dodge, so one shot kills are important. I keep hitting with other guns, striking headshots, crosshairs up, but losing the few points between me getting them and them killing me. These videos really are helping me play, btw. My scores and enjoyment are way up thanks specifically to you, Otaku, so thank you. Great job. Would like to see you post some play-by-play videos. Maybe guides to specific levels? How to not suck: Endor, places to go, paths to take?
+fireinthedust Thank you for sharing your experience and the great feedback. Based on what you are saying about the shock blaster and "my movement isn't frantic enough to dodge, so one shot kills are important" you might actually want to try the SE-14C. In CQB you pretty much always get a 1 burst kill, but it has more flexibility than the CA-87.
Once again, top notch quality from OTAKU. It is really awesome that you are one of the few youtubers that actually cares about making good videos and not just creating shitty click bait ones to make some fast money.
OMG thanks so much Otaku you gave helped me so much you've helped my K/D Ratio go from 0.91 to 1.44 and I got 58 and 8 in extraction today. So thanks for all the tips and blaster showdowns that helped me get a boost.
Great video. Personally, I can't ever use the DH-17. Every now and then I see someone using it effectively, and I think I should give it another try. Then after 1 or 2 rounds, I go back to using weapons with higher skill ceilings. The peashooter can be fun, but man is it not competitive.
+rotblitzkrieg This is exactly the same for me. I can use it and do okay but immediately hate it and want a more of a skill cap/high risk-high reward weapon.
Thank you so much for replying to me my friend is going to be so jealous. He also finds your videos very helpful and you've helped his K/D Ratio go up loads as well
Great video Otaku, well edited and very informative. Only constructive criticism would be is that you were talking a *little* fast, try slowing it down a bit, you sounded like you were late for a meeting or something haha. But other than that, well done on another awesome video.
Thanks for this great comparison. No vote icon appeared though... And I'm voting for the DH-17...mostly cuz my aiming sucks and if your first burst misses, then I'm usually dead before my second burst because all you guys on team OTAKU are using the SE-14 an never miss
Another great review - thank you! Personally I've had a lot of success with the DH-17 - and I favour it for nostalgic reasons. It's pretty much the first blaster you see in Episode IV...
Hey, @OTAKU, if you want my opinion, I think that it should be mainly a tie. Because of the much faster automatic-ness, and that the amount of recoil the SE-14C has is kind of undermined in symthic.com. What I am trying to say is that it may be harder to hit people sometimes with the SE-14C. Hope you like my opinion! P.S. Oh and also I am the kid you said happy birthday to in April. That made my day man! May the OTAKU be with you.
+Malcolm Lyon Disagree, it's the pure recoil and spread stats that gave the DH-17 any wins at all. In reality, the spread and recoil from burst fire on the SE-14C is pretty much nothing and it's no reason to choose the DH-17 over it. Where as the TTK that the SE-14C has is very real and very worth choosing.
Ahh, I see. Just when I'm playing I tend to feel like my screen is flying away when I use the 14C, although I prefer it over the DH-17. What I'm trying to say, is that for me, (I'm not very good) it is harder to shoot targets from far away. But I totally understand now. Thank you so much for informing me even further!
Malcolm Lyon The SE-14C isn't meant to be constantly sprayed over and over. You need to line up and connect before you shoot. If you just point and spray then of course the recoil can take over as you are not giving it time to reset.
I think more people would use the DH-17 only because it is much easier to use than the SE-14C. SE-14C is better in my opinion, but needs a bit more skill to use. Another Great Vid OTAKU!
I honestly like both blasters. I use certain ones in certain situations. -A tip to Otaku, maybe you could make a "like both" option, that would be easier on me and maybe others...
I'm kind of torn over these two. I used to use the SE-14C almost exclusively, but lately I haven't been doing too well with killing a group of enemies quickly. I started to use the DH-17, and with a bit of practice I got a k/d of 29 to 3 in a game of Cargo. Maybe it's the better accuracy, but I find the DH better for close range with open spaces such as the Palace Garage and the Hoth Hangar.
+obsessedwithTF1 The problem is that when you have open areas, targets tend to move around more and make some of the shots from the SE-14C burst a little hard to connect...which means you aren't utilizing it's crazy TTK.
Hey Otaku, I missed your live stream and I always enjoy watching them. Do you think there's a way that you can make previous livestreams available to those who miss them?
Since I usually can get more kills with it, my vote is for the *peashooter* Great video Otaku, please keep them coming (btw, did you get that video capture card?)
The problem with the SE (my favourite weapon still) is that if the enemy is runny sideways you usually only hit 4/5 of the shots, making it 2 burst. I find in choke points I will kill 4 enemies before over heat because of this. For indoor maps where the enemy is not madly strafing the SE is better, and getting those jump pack melts on cargo carriers is great. I feel like the best blaster depends on your trait, with scout the SE is deadly, I often go roughly 35-2 while the DH with berserker is godly, I joined in the second half of a cargo match and finished 26-0. So it all depends. I loved this video though, I just feel that 33% of the time with the SE it's a 2 burst weapon.
that's why you lead you targets because with automatic weapons you don't need to lead your target as you just aim and hold the trigger burst weapons require more fitness I had to learn this using the EE-3 at long ranges where you have to get 3 bursts to hit your target for a kill also it's easier to lead targets hip firing instead of zooming in down the sights
something I would like to point out is that the utility of these weapons also depends on what platform you are playing on. consoles may have a tougher time using the sebecause we can't point and click with a controller. granted, I don't practice on improving my accuracy but the dh is more useful in close quarters like blast because of its predictability and accuracy.
Oh in which case, I might be a noob. I'm a little better than average most maps I play. I should probably try the SE again because I haven't used that in a while.
Samuel Marek When using the SE, don't play it like an automatic where you spam as many shots as you can and just keep going. Actually wait for the gun to line up before you fire.
I totally agree with you. I use the SE-14C all the time for every game mode and always get a k/d of 39/10 or something. I think it's the best blaster in the game.
Ima gonna say SE-14C. Think about it, it only loses to recoil and spread. Recoil and spread matter a lot less at close range. So the DH-17 only wins at long range, but at long range it does barely any damage. So in conclusion, the DH-17's only good points are completely negated by its downfalls.
I like how the dh17 let's you not pay as much attention to who your shooting so you can plan your next target. that said, might have to give the sc a serious go again
A lot of the stats regarding the Se-14c depend on all 5 rounds landing on target. So, while its time to kill up close is much better, any wayward rounds, as with all burst-fire weapons, tend to punish you. As a close-range weapon, and based on my own experience, it is extremely difficult to land a full burst at long range. In my opinion, the long-range performance arguement should not carry much if any weight regarding these two blasters, because neither one is very practical beyind 30 meters. Nonetheess, I would agree with your assessment of the SE-14c as the overall superior blaster, primarily because the DH-17's advantage lies only within a very small 5 meter margin.
All scenarios assume that you don't suck and are using the weapons appropriately, as it really shouldn't be hard to do. For example, getting all 5 rounds of burst to land in CQB really isn't hard. Sure at long ranges it might be more difficult, but you should only really be trying to secure a kill at that range if you know for sure that you can (Target is standing still, exposed or low on health). At the same time, sure a burst missing some rounds sucks, but so does missing with any weapon?
Very true. I do not disagree with your analysis. I understand that it is kind of hard to account for human error, and realize that it is easy to land all 5 rounds up close. I would merely point out again that burst-fire weapons are especially punishing regarding missed rounds, and given the SE-14c's close range focus, it isn't at all ideal at range despite better potential performance. That is why I noted that the long-range performance ideally wouldn't carry much weight. Anyway, I really don't mean to sound negative, and at this point I suppose I'm just kind of harping on about a very menial gripe that doesn't really address any errors of any sort in your comparison (I do tend to make a big deal out of all the little things). I do think your blaster review and comparison videos are very well thought-out and helpful, so keep up the good work!
Jonathan Sullivan The long range points were more of a matter of potential. Yes missing a burst is more punishing and yes shooting at long range isn't ideal. However, the SE-14C maintains so much damage at range that is can actually kill people without too much trouble in some situations. Where as the DH-17 simply doesn't have the TTK for it.
I like the Dh-17 over the Se14-C because it is more forgiving and controllable while you are moving around like a mad man. What I lack in accuracy I make up in agility.
I kind of prefer the DH-17 simply because I like the feel of automatic guns more but I think the SE-14C is by far the stronger gun. I played a game of extraction the other day where I almost single-handedly held back the enemy team and it was entirely due to the SE-14C. It's pretty much a one shot cannon as is but when you throw berserker in the mix it basically makes you unstoppable.
I prefer the DH-17 because its easier for me to adjust my shot when I can track the stream of bullets coming out the blaster. I get into a lot of blaster fights and the constant rate of fire has proven to win me match up easier than a blaster with a low rate of fire or burst. I'm really surpised the A280c outmatched the E-11 I always thought the E-11 was best.
with skill se-14c dominates but dh-17 is the go-to for a noob as even skilled players don't hit their mark with all 5 bursts, so even a fuck up of one bullet not hitting the dh-17 will own assuming the player. is accurate
I haven't played Battlefront in a while, but I think the DH-17 is a magnificent blaster. Most of the time, I play on Blast, so CQC-oriented weapons reign supreme. I'll probably use the SE-14C again because it's a monster, but I prefer having a full-auto blaster since I'm not the best shot. :/
Great video. I am a huge SE-14C user, and I think it is pretty underrated. I also think the the DH-17 is really overused. Keep up the great work.
+Jack Loko Thanks dude, completely agree.
Waiting for Star Wars HQ to copy this video as well.
XD
+Tyler Petrillo lmfao
+markus juusela päivää
+MeoT iltaa
+markus juusela joulua
"...and the target should be dead two times over." Unless you shoot at people's feet like me. ^__^
+Ben Rollman hahahhaha
+Ben Rollman I get it you want them to suffer MUHAAAAAA!!! :D
Let's see how long it will take until Star Wars HQ is copying this
Yup...
3days my guess
Star Wars HQ is more news than really teaching you how to play, they won't copy this
+Jonas Horn lol
+Rob Osborne They work fast, probably less than 24 hours.
Sorry for the delay getting this video out. My PC died the other day and In the process of fixing it I lost all my UA-cam files.
EDit: The voting poll is now active on the video at around 13:10 , I forget to add it when the video went live.
Ok thanks for this video
Thanks bro
+OTAKU where do we vote? icon in video doesnt work
i didnt get the link
i didnt get the link
Both Blasters are great but the SE14C is better IF you have good aim.
But dh-17 kills faster if you have good aim from long range
Jan Ruhose
It's the same situation with the E-11 and the A280C: it depends on your accuracy and its consistency on a game to game basis.
The random Cow It does less damage and most people use blaster rifles giving them the advantage
The SE-14c is my go-to close up weapon, the EE-3 is my long range weapon.
I've found that, for midrange shooting (say 50m), the SE-14c is more reliable for some reason. The DH-17 feels like it just sprays all over the place, while the SE-14c seems to send all 5 shots closer to where you are aiming. In practice, at close range, if you are accurate, SE-14c wins every time, but if you fluff your shot, the DH-17 will probably win.
The best way to use the SE-14c is to ambush, it's probably the second best ambush weapon behind the shock blaster. Hide behind a ridge or a tree, pop out and take the first shot. You now have a 1v1 duel with somebody at half health at worst, or maybe on no health at all, an easy win.
Likewise my friend, likewise
Sucks when people use the scattergun to do this
Passive-Aggressive Blitzkrieg
Doesn't help them much unless they have quick reflexes, because by the time they line up the shot, you are firing a second burst right at them and usually finishing them off.
If u use the focus fire on the SE-14C it's a two shot kill at long range witch is op af
Really? I so have to try that, never thought about it.
I use the DH-17 more often bc I like the fire patterns better. It's also the first pistol you get, really, with others being subsequent unlocks that are more specialized. The sight on the one could be nice, but I find when I use a blaster I'm going from the hip, close quarters, 12 person games indoors. I tend to choose the DH-17, but that's without analysis, and it's been a while since I used the other. Frankly, the shock blaster has been working great for me in most games, like blast: my movement isn't frantic enough to dodge, so one shot kills are important. I keep hitting with other guns, striking headshots, crosshairs up, but losing the few points between me getting them and them killing me.
These videos really are helping me play, btw. My scores and enjoyment are way up thanks specifically to you, Otaku, so thank you. Great job. Would like to see you post some play-by-play videos. Maybe guides to specific levels? How to not suck: Endor, places to go, paths to take?
+fireinthedust Thank you for sharing your experience and the great feedback. Based on what you are saying about the shock blaster and "my movement isn't frantic enough to dodge, so one shot kills are important" you might actually want to try the SE-14C. In CQB you pretty much always get a 1 burst kill, but it has more flexibility than the CA-87.
The DH-17 is such an annoyance when u get sprayed down
I got so many deaths from that thing I decided to drop my E-11 and use it. No regrets. I hope the DH-17 doesn't get nerfed.
+Brandon Ross have u ever got sprayed down by it with explosive shot? It's so annoying
+James Baird yes, I die before I fire the first shot
+James Baird not true
+StarWarsfFan TheGreatestone it is boi trust me
These kind of videos really do put you a league above most other Battlefront videos/channels. Good job, and thanks!
+James Spears Thanks dude, I'm glad you think so.
The SE-14c is easily my favorite blaster. But y u haf 2 tell everyone that it's better? Now everyone knows :'(
+Joel Inzerillo lol sorry
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another great, objective, and thorough review. I'm still bias for dh17
+RDubya73 Thanks, and feel free to cast your vote!
Great video as always. Keep up the good work!
+xYoung Exodus Thanks dude
+OTAKU wanna be friends on PS4 please please please
Once again, top notch quality from OTAKU. It is really awesome that you are one of the few youtubers that actually cares about making good videos and not just creating shitty click bait ones to make some fast money.
+Mr. Bumz Thanks a lot for the kind feedback, I'm glad that is the image I give out.
Otaku best of 3 hero battles?
vs me?
+VELOCIRaPTORxlx ik wist niet dat je naar otaku keek
+VELOCIRaPTORxlx That would be awesome, but I feel like you're both very skilled infantry players, you should do an infantry battle as well.
make it happen Otaku...
+GoPro Hero 3+ belgium He has been here for a while now.
OMG thanks so much Otaku you gave helped me so much you've helped my K/D Ratio go from 0.91 to 1.44 and I got 58 and 8 in extraction today. So thanks for all the tips and blaster showdowns that helped me get a boost.
+Nathanael Thomas Awesome dude, that makes me happy.
Wait, I didn't see any icon in the top right. Can you put me down for SE-14C?
Same
+Süshi~Vølcano Fixed, please vote
+OTAKU Ohhhh, it was the "i" that was there the whole time. I was expecting something additional to come up.
Süshi~Vølcano
:P
I prefer the DH-17. The SE-14c has the EE-3's same deadly flaw: the pause between shots. "Fast is fine, accuracy is final." (Lt. Rex Applegate, USMC.)
Se14c is op if you have good aim
True
+Pink sheep 101 Fan Dude, wtf, why were you hating on Otaku if you watch him? 8 year old imbecile...
Great video. Personally, I can't ever use the DH-17. Every now and then I see someone using it effectively, and I think I should give it another try. Then after 1 or 2 rounds, I go back to using weapons with higher skill ceilings. The peashooter can be fun, but man is it not competitive.
+rotblitzkrieg This is exactly the same for me. I can use it and do okay but immediately hate it and want a more of a skill cap/high risk-high reward weapon.
perfect vid
+Kaiaiaiii ^_^ Sanchu
Thank you so much for replying to me my friend is going to be so jealous. He also finds your videos very helpful and you've helped his K/D Ratio go up loads as well
+Nathanael Thomas You're welcome dude
SE-14C all day! Add explosive shot and you can 1v1 heros and the clowns running adrenalin stim, berserker/bodyguard (III) and bacta bomb combo
+Dave Clemons Totally!
+Power_oF_FIN finbar is that you
I feel you bro! It's the best
+Dave Clemons That's exactly right, it's the anti noob loadout.
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos, I find them to be extremely useful
+Palpy Teen Thank you for watching
DL-18 vs DH-17!
+AwesomeGoldenGamers I will consider it
Sorry for commenting late.But another LEGENDARY VID.Keep impressing me OTAKU.
+DOSEFLYINGPIGS PLAYZ Thanks dude
In my Opinion every one should use what they like if they like DH-17 they shall use it no matter what
Great video Okatu. Can you maybe do one of these?
DLT-19 vs RT-97C
SE-14C vs EE-3
EE-3 vs T21-B
T21 vs T21-B
Thanks for the great vid!
Thanks for the suggestions, I plan on doing most of what you listed.
Fantastic showdown Otaku!! Love all of your videos can't wait for more blaster showdowns and reviews!!!!
+Foordleoak 787 Thanks for the support!
Thanks OTAKU, I can always trust your reviews they are always right and have helped me a lot!
+Sam Muirhead Welcome dude
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU OUR LORD AND SAVIOT OTAKU
+Dan Dan lol
Love you bro, so right and unbiased. Keep up the good work, you're the only battlefront player I can stand
+Steven Murphy Thanks dude, will do!
Great video Otaku, well edited and very informative. Only constructive criticism would be is that you were talking a *little* fast, try slowing it down a bit, you sounded like you were late for a meeting or something haha. But other than that, well done on another awesome video.
+ThePuffin The script was massive, so I was trying to be quick or we would have a 30 min video lol.
Thanks for this great comparison.
No vote icon appeared though...
And I'm voting for the DH-17...mostly cuz my aiming sucks and if your first burst misses, then I'm usually dead before my second burst because all you guys on team OTAKU are using the SE-14 an never miss
Are you watching from the app
Another great review - thank you! Personally I've had a lot of success with the DH-17 - and I favour it for nostalgic reasons. It's pretty much the first blaster you see in Episode IV...
+Ben Morris Thank you and valid point.
Mr. Otaku I find your videos very professional keep up the great work.
+Emperor Ōkami Takeda
Great review - for the next one, it'd be cool if you pitted the EE-3 against the T-21 or T-21B
What the fuck, of course the EE-3 would win.
+יואב מור ^^
Great video m8 I've finally made up my mind between those two guns!
+Quickscope Some Noobs Thanks dude, glad I could help.
Hey, @OTAKU, if you want my opinion, I think that it should be mainly a tie. Because of the much faster automatic-ness, and that the amount of recoil the SE-14C has is kind of undermined in symthic.com. What I am trying to say is that it may be harder to hit people sometimes with the SE-14C. Hope you like my opinion!
P.S. Oh and also I am the kid you said happy birthday to in April. That made my day man!
May the OTAKU be with you.
+Malcolm Lyon I mean +OTAKU
+Malcolm Lyon Disagree, it's the pure recoil and spread stats that gave the DH-17 any wins at all. In reality, the spread and recoil from burst fire on the SE-14C is pretty much nothing and it's no reason to choose the DH-17 over it. Where as the TTK that the SE-14C has is very real and very worth choosing.
+Malcolm Lyon and you're welcome dude
Ahh, I see. Just when I'm playing I tend to feel like my screen is flying away when I use the 14C, although I prefer it over the DH-17. What I'm trying to say, is that for me, (I'm not very good) it is harder to shoot targets from far away. But I totally understand now. Thank you so much for informing me even further!
Malcolm Lyon
The SE-14C isn't meant to be constantly sprayed over and over. You need to line up and connect before you shoot. If you just point and spray then of course the recoil can take over as you are not giving it time to reset.
Hands down SE-14C. It dominates close to medium range especially with explosive shot plus it looks tough. Keep up the good work Otaku.
+Sando Thomas Thanks dude, and be sure to vote.
I used to hate fighting against the DH-17 but now I love using it!
It's a lot better now that everything else has been nerfed into oblivion.
Nice vid also some nice edits i can understand it can take a while to find al that stats out. You're AWSOME!!
+Petko Markovic Thanks dude
Good comparison, I have been using the DH17 a lot, will give the 14 a try.
+10spro Thanks dude, be sure to...it's a great blaster.
Nice job, these videos remind me of the TV show Deadliest Warrior. I loved that show...
+Matthew Bennett Dude I love that show too!
Who is Deadliest?
I think more people would use the DH-17 only because it is much easier to use than the SE-14C. SE-14C is better in my opinion, but needs a bit more skill to use. Another Great Vid OTAKU!
+SavDog23 So far the votes are heavily in favor of the SE-14C, I guess we will know with time.
I honestly like both blasters. I use certain ones in certain situations.
-A tip to Otaku, maybe you could make a "like both" option, that would be easier on me and maybe others...
No can do! It's survival of the best.
I'm kind of torn over these two. I used to use the SE-14C almost exclusively, but lately I haven't been doing too well with killing a group of enemies quickly. I started to use the DH-17, and with a bit of practice I got a k/d of 29 to 3 in a game of Cargo. Maybe it's the better accuracy, but I find the DH better for close range with open spaces such as the Palace Garage and the Hoth Hangar.
+obsessedwithTF1 The problem is that when you have open areas, targets tend to move around more and make some of the shots from the SE-14C burst a little hard to connect...which means you aren't utilizing it's crazy TTK.
Hey Otaku! I really like the videos you have made, pure gold. Are you planning to make more of these when SWBF 2 comes out? Would be really nice :))!
Always enjoy your game footage and research!
+Justin Vajko Thanks Justin
The DH-17 was my go to blaster lately. I guess I'll have to try out the SE-14c a bit more.
+Philippe Gaboury Definitely give it a shot.
I have to choose dh-17 because it's easier to manage. Great video as always.
Thanks dude, don't forget to vote.
this is some amazing gameplay. ive been waiting for a showdown!
+Jeanfranco Pinto Thanks dude
I watched all your battle front 3 videos I love them
Thanks dude!
Awesome video! I really like both of these guns, but I would have to go for the SE-14C as well.
+reedfamily06 Make sure to cast a vote
OTAKU Ok will do! :D
i love this reviews, even tho im in the DH-17 side, only because of my playstyle, this is amazingly done
+Abraham Diaz Thanks dude, don't forget to vote
Great bro, the channel is getting bigger and bigger ;)
+joel matin Thanks dude
Hey Otaku, I missed your live stream and I always enjoy watching them. Do you think there's a way that you can make previous livestreams available to those who miss them?
What happens in livestream stays in livestream.
You know what I really get tired of? Disruption, then ee-4...it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to counter at close range
yeah specialy when they are rebels dresed as bespin guards and rollinh while shooting its anoying
Thanks otaku for doing this video!
+Tyler23 cents Welcome dude
Team OTAKU here. Great vids. :)
+pongo320 Thanks dude
can't wait for new videos from you. I love this channel
+Dragon Man Thanks dude
+OTAKU you don't have to thank me, your videos are enough for me... but thanking is awesome too!
SE-14c is the blaster I use most, and I definitely think it's the best.
+Sickof Liars Make sure to vote
No your wrong
If you are doing another blaster showdown anytime soon i think DL44 vs DT12 would be cool (for outer rim players at least)
Thanks for the suggestion
Since I usually can get more kills with it, my vote is for the *peashooter*
Great video Otaku, please keep them coming (btw, did you get that video capture card?)
+Rommel G Voting is now up, feel free to cast it. I did get the capture card, notice the 60fps gameplay?
GREAT VIDEO! WELL DONE OTAKU
+Max Wilde Thanks dude
The problem with the SE (my favourite weapon still) is that if the enemy is runny sideways you usually only hit 4/5 of the shots, making it 2 burst. I find in choke points I will kill 4 enemies before over heat because of this. For indoor maps where the enemy is not madly strafing the SE is better, and getting those jump pack melts on cargo carriers is great. I feel like the best blaster depends on your trait, with scout the SE is deadly, I often go roughly 35-2 while the DH with berserker is godly, I joined in the second half of a cargo match and finished 26-0. So it all depends. I loved this video though, I just feel that 33% of the time with the SE it's a 2 burst weapon.
that's why you lead you targets because with automatic weapons you don't need to lead your target as you just aim and hold the trigger burst weapons require more fitness I had to learn this using the EE-3 at long ranges where you have to get 3 bursts to hit your target for a kill also it's easier to lead targets hip firing instead of zooming in down the sights
+Michael “EviLL I” Smith This is exactly right, if you lead your shot just very slightly, then you can connect all 5 rounds on moving targets.
Yeah Otaku is back! Just came out of school. E-11 wins for me and SE-14C
Great video btw. Jeez the quality is amazing!
+Yuri Brog Thanks bro
+OTAKU np bro. Your video's are getting better. I love that!
I just love how you say:'pew pew pew pew pew'
+Bulba Roar ^_^
awesome video as always ❤️
I hope the bowcaster review is coming soon 😂
+Imperial Pizzaservice Oh right bowcaster, sorry I forgot lol.
+OTAKU oh no problem
watching your videos is always a pleasure no matter what content
Imperial Pizzaservice
:)
something I would like to point out is that the utility of these weapons also depends on what platform you are playing on. consoles may have a tougher time using the sebecause we can't point and click with a controller. granted, I don't practice on improving my accuracy but the dh is more useful in close quarters like blast because of its predictability and accuracy.
Valid point, but this video assumes that your not a noob.
Oh in which case, I might be a noob. I'm a little better than average most maps I play. I should probably try the SE again because I haven't used that in a while.
Samuel Marek
When using the SE, don't play it like an automatic where you spam as many shots as you can and just keep going. Actually wait for the gun to line up before you fire.
U deserve more subs man! Great vid!
Lol dh-17 fan girls
+wild troopa Thanks dude
Great video as always! Please do Dlt-19 vs Rt-97c! Thanks
+Paul Fraser Thanks and I will consider it
Love it, great work man!
+baflle289 Thanks dude
Great vid Otaku, can you do a blaster showdown with the EE-3, I love that weapon!! 😀
+Wouter Huybrechts I plan on featuring it some point soon.
+OTAKU thx dude! May the Force be with you!! 😉
I totally agree with you. I use the SE-14C all the time for every game mode and always get a k/d of 39/10 or something. I think it's the best blaster in the game.
+50% Asian I wouldn't say best in the game, but it certainly is the best for CQB.
+OTAKU true
+OTAKU Keep up the awesome vids
Nice video! Can you do star card versus? Thermal detonator vs barrage
+CJSOLO888 _ Perhaps
The SE-14c is pretty good in Heroes vs Villains when paired with explosive shot
+ScruffyLookin1138 Agreed
Ima gonna say SE-14C. Think about it, it only loses to recoil and spread. Recoil and spread matter a lot less at close range. So the DH-17 only wins at long range, but at long range it does barely any damage. So in conclusion, the DH-17's only good points are completely negated by its downfalls.
Exactly
Pretty please do more blaster showdowns. EE3 vs something would be nice.
I will consider it
Love your content dude, maybe you could make a vid on the new bacta bomb
+Raihan Syah Iman Considering it, thanks.
Your my favourite youtuber, your funny and teach us how to play the game probably
+Ben Erwin Thanks Ben, glad I can help
SE-14C
also what blaster will you compare the EE-3 to I'm curious for that one specifically
+Michael „EviLL I“ Smith I'm guessing to the CA-87
MSQuwerta highly doubt that more along the lines of the Relby V-10 or a heavy blaster
+Michael “EviLL I” Smith Going to have to wait and see :P
EE4
I like how the dh17 let's you not pay as much attention to who your shooting so you can plan your next target. that said, might have to give the sc a serious go again
I think the trade off is worth it.
been waiting for this showdown yay!! I always use the Se-14c
It's the best :3
+Passive-Aggressive Blitzkrieg you two make such a good couple
OTAKU lol what mate
Passive-Aggressive Blitzkrieg
:P
+OTAKU what... why? lol
A lot of the stats regarding the Se-14c depend on all 5 rounds landing on target. So, while its time to kill up close is much better, any wayward rounds, as with all burst-fire weapons, tend to punish you. As a close-range weapon, and based on my own experience, it is extremely difficult to land a full burst at long range. In my opinion, the long-range performance arguement should not carry much if any weight regarding these two blasters, because neither one is very practical beyind 30 meters. Nonetheess, I would agree with your assessment of the SE-14c as the overall superior blaster, primarily because the DH-17's advantage lies only within a very small 5 meter margin.
All scenarios assume that you don't suck and are using the weapons appropriately, as it really shouldn't be hard to do. For example, getting all 5 rounds of burst to land in CQB really isn't hard. Sure at long ranges it might be more difficult, but you should only really be trying to secure a kill at that range if you know for sure that you can (Target is standing still, exposed or low on health). At the same time, sure a burst missing some rounds sucks, but so does missing with any weapon?
Very true. I do not disagree with your analysis. I understand that it is kind of hard to account for human error, and realize that it is easy to land all 5 rounds up close. I would merely point out again that burst-fire weapons are especially punishing regarding missed rounds, and given the SE-14c's close range focus, it isn't at all ideal at range despite better potential performance. That is why I noted that the long-range performance ideally wouldn't carry much weight. Anyway, I really don't mean to sound negative, and at this point I suppose I'm just kind of harping on about a very menial gripe that doesn't really address any errors of any sort in your comparison (I do tend to make a big deal out of all the little things). I do think your blaster review and comparison videos are very well thought-out and helpful, so keep up the good work!
Jonathan Sullivan
The long range points were more of a matter of potential. Yes missing a burst is more punishing and yes shooting at long range isn't ideal. However, the SE-14C maintains so much damage at range that is can actually kill people without too much trouble in some situations. Where as the DH-17 simply doesn't have the TTK for it.
I thought the dh-17 was used by the empire. In the new hope, one of the prison guards pulled it out when chewbacca got out of his handcuffs.
A few imperial guards have been known to use it for combat when boarding ships.
La dh 17 es mi arma favorita casi nunca me falla
+OTAKU thanks for making this vid
+Auston Thrash Welcome
I like the Dh-17 over the Se14-C because it is more forgiving and controllable while you are moving around like a mad man. What I lack in accuracy I make up in agility.
I can see that
Hai can you do a how not to suck video on the Honor guard/ shock trooper? I'm always derpy with them and id like to know how to be effective with them
+Charlie Brooks Humm, alright
OTAKU thankyou
I kind of prefer the DH-17 simply because I like the feel of automatic guns more but I think the SE-14C is by far the stronger gun.
I played a game of extraction the other day where I almost single-handedly held back the enemy team and it was entirely due to the SE-14C. It's pretty much a one shot cannon as is but when you throw berserker in the mix it basically makes you unstoppable.
+Nick Powers Oh and good job on the video.
+Nick Powers Thanks dude!
You didn’t talk about how everyone uses explosive shot with DH-17. I hardly ever see it with SE-14C. I am still a
SE-14C person.
Big fan, you made me the player I am today. Sorry I can't do more to help.
+Nando Leal No worries, just hearing that is more than enough for me.
Great video!! Love your channel so much!!
+Bengus Milner Thanks dude
I prefer the DH-17 because its easier for me to adjust my shot when I can track the stream of bullets coming out the blaster. I get into a lot of blaster fights and the constant rate of fire has proven to win me match up easier than a blaster with a low rate of fire or burst. I'm really surpised the A280c outmatched the E-11 I always thought the E-11 was best.
+Brandon Ross I see
Great video! Can you do A280C vs EE3 those are my favorite weapons
+QMachtMuh The EE-3 will make it's appearance soon enough.
ok. cool thanks
would like to see a blaster showdown feat. dl-44 and dl-18
nice video :D
+Lucas Hoffmeister I will consider it
OTAKU great
with skill se-14c dominates but dh-17 is the go-to for a noob as even skilled players don't hit their mark with all 5 bursts, so even a fuck up of one bullet not hitting the dh-17 will own assuming the player. is accurate
scenario is a skilled se-14c vs noob dh-17 player, I kind of worded it awkwardly
I haven't played Battlefront in a while, but I think the DH-17 is a magnificent blaster. Most of the time, I play on Blast, so CQC-oriented weapons reign supreme. I'll probably use the SE-14C again because it's a monster, but I prefer having a full-auto blaster since I'm not the best shot. :/
+THAREALDAN I guess that makes sense then.
SE 14C Die Dayzzzzzzz, Epic Vid Bro You Channel And Your Personality Is Soooooo My Type. GG You Rock!
+[TU] Trollers United Thanks dude, glad we make a good couple lol :P