I remember when the submarine was at the Cabildo. It had a large rusted out hole in the side and was full of empty beer cans and other trash plus the cement. Somebody did a great service restoring it and now they should try and save our forts before it too late.
I have some photos of the day the Kidd came to Baton Rouge, from above . We were a group of 4 T-6 and SNJ aircraft..also a Jap Zero (replica) joined up with us at one point. ..@@usskidd661
Fort Pike and Fort McCombe are accessable by car.....but You need a boat to see a couple others. One by Grand Isle and one in Lake Bourne. @@usskidd661
Absolutely fascinating - I'd come across older youtube stories which mention the Bayou St John boat, in rather less depth than this film, so you really add to that understanding. What never ceases to amaze me is the degree of innnovation and improvisation which the Confederates came up with - American ingenuity is certainly not the monopoly of New England Yankees. The history of Pioneer is also intriguing - there is, or was a paper model of her on the 'net', which I've made up, so it's nice to know something about it. We also had a pioneering submarine in GB - named 'Resurgam' it did what it was supposed to do - sink and rise again - which still exists on the bottom of Colwyn Bay, near Rhyl in North Wales. (Like the Monitor, she sank under tow) So, what about the wrecked submarine found in the Chicago East River, back about 1915? The skipper and his dog were still aboard, slightly dead. Has anything more ever come to light about that one?
Thsnks! Re: Chicago submarine - While we're aware of this submarine, we haven't done a "deep dive" on it. We might suggest it to our friend Ken Stano at @HistoryX.
Agreed! Its design somewhat resembles an out-of-state group of the same period. But there are also verbal accounts of its raising that point toward a wealthy planter from just outside modern-day suburban New Orleans. It's fascinating!
Ah, yes. Ol'e 'Spoons' Butler! As for the first submarine, the one built in 1620 in England is the oldest for which there is confirmation, but the first MILITARY submarine was Bushnell's "Turtle" used to attack the HMS Eagle in 1776 near Governor's Island, NYC. Interesting that both the first military submarine and the first submarine to successfully sink a warship were built by we Americans!
Was it Robert Fulton who built a submarine for Napoleon Bonaparte? I have seen references to it, but from what little I remember it wasn't particularly successful. Incidentally, I'm still surprised by how many veteran ironclads, river gun boats and other civil war vessels are still in existence, either whole or in part.
Great production Tim. BZ
Thank you! He really does love that little boat, ... as much as a destroyer guy can love a submarine. 🤷♂️🙂
Outstanding - thanks for this one.
Thank you for watching! 🙂
I remember when the submarine was at the Cabildo. It had a large rusted out hole in the side and was full of empty beer cans and other trash plus the cement. Somebody did a great service restoring it and now they should try and save our forts before it too late.
They really did do a great job. A Keynotes on the forts would be fun. But we'd need a boat to get us to some.
I have some photos of the day the Kidd came to Baton Rouge, from above . We were a group of 4 T-6 and SNJ aircraft..also a Jap Zero (replica) joined up with us at one point.
..@@usskidd661
Fort Pike and Fort McCombe are accessable by car.....but You need a boat to see a couple others. One by Grand Isle and one in Lake Bourne.
@@usskidd661
I remember the submarine being at the Cabildo,(?) , It was the building on the left side of the cathedral.
I don't remember the hole tho,
@@usskidd661. You have a boat, just needs a lil steam.
Absolutely fascinating - I'd come across older youtube stories which mention the Bayou St John boat, in rather less depth than this film, so you really add to that understanding. What never ceases to amaze me is the degree of innnovation and improvisation which the Confederates came up with - American ingenuity is certainly not the monopoly of New England Yankees.
The history of Pioneer is also intriguing - there is, or was a paper model of her on the 'net', which I've made up, so it's nice to know something about it.
We also had a pioneering submarine in GB - named 'Resurgam' it did what it was supposed to do - sink and rise again - which still exists on the bottom of Colwyn Bay, near Rhyl in North Wales. (Like the Monitor, she sank under tow)
So, what about the wrecked submarine found in the Chicago East River, back about 1915? The skipper and his dog were still aboard, slightly dead. Has anything more ever come to light about that one?
Thsnks!
Re: Chicago submarine - While we're aware of this submarine, we haven't done a "deep dive" on it. We might suggest it to our friend Ken Stano at @HistoryX.
Excellent video! Wow! It not looking anything like the Pioneer nor Hunley, though, suggests a completely different group of engineers.
Agreed! Its design somewhat resembles an out-of-state group of the same period. But there are also verbal accounts of its raising that point toward a wealthy planter from just outside modern-day suburban New Orleans. It's fascinating!
This looks neat
It really is. 🙂
Ah, yes. Ol'e 'Spoons' Butler! As for the first submarine, the one built in 1620 in England is the oldest for which there is confirmation, but the first MILITARY submarine was Bushnell's "Turtle" used to attack the HMS Eagle in 1776 near Governor's Island, NYC. Interesting that both the first military submarine and the first submarine to successfully sink a warship were built by we Americans!
Remember, though. In this video, we're talking submarines still in existence. 🙂
Was it Robert Fulton who built a submarine for Napoleon Bonaparte? I have seen references to it, but from what little I remember it wasn't particularly successful. Incidentally, I'm still surprised by how many veteran ironclads, river gun boats and other civil war vessels are still in existence, either whole or in part.